[15:29:19] <qgil>	 hi there!
[15:29:33] <Nikerabbit>	 uga
[15:29:36] <ferdbold>	 hello hello
[15:29:39] <Niharika>	 Hello! Welcome to the GSoC and Outreachy wrap up.
[15:29:44] <robla>	 howdy!
[15:29:50] <tinajohnson>	 hello all!
[15:29:53] <Niharika>	 Good to see you, robla!
[15:29:56] <mooeypoo>	 heyhey!
[15:29:58] <sitic>	 hey :-)
[15:30:01] <qgil>	 We'll start officially when Niharika gives green light
[15:30:07] <dannyh>	 good morning!
[15:30:09] <Niharika>	 Woah, sitic you made it.
[15:30:15] <dannyh>	 (or whatever time it is for you)
[15:30:20] <Niharika>	 Hey dannyh, mooeypoo.
[15:30:24] <codezee>	 Hi!
[15:30:37] <eranroz1>	 good evening
[15:31:34] <Niharika>	 Let's wait a bit longer for everyone to arrive. In the meantime, I'll ask the interns to scribble up an introduction to themselves and their projects.
[15:31:49] <qgil>	 #startmeeting GSoC and Outreachy Wrap-up
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[15:31:52] <aharoni>	 Shalom from Jerusalem.
[15:31:55] <qgil>	 #topic Intro
[15:32:18] <aharoni>	 Thank you for organizing and hosting this, qgil.
[15:32:29] <Niharika>	 Oh, and it'll be nice if everyone gives out links in the format "#link https://..." so meetbot can organize them neatly.
[15:32:43] <Niharika>	 Hey aharoni. :)
[15:33:05] <happy5214|away>	 I'll be back in about 5 minutes.
[15:33:24] <Niharika>	 If everyone who's here for the meeting can do a show of hands/thumbs, that'd be great.
[15:33:26] <Niharika>	 o/
[15:33:33] <qgil>	 o/
[15:33:41] <dannyh>	 o/
[15:33:43] <aharoni>	 o/
[15:33:46] <phoenix303>	 o/
[15:33:53] <eranroz1>	 o/
[15:33:59] <ferdbold>	 o/
[15:33:59] <codezee>	 o/
[15:34:01] <ankita-ks>	 o/
[15:34:12] <mooeypoo>	 \o
[15:34:14] <Nikerabbit>	 o
[15:34:23] <Yaron>	 Thumb.
[15:34:33] <aharoni>	 mooeypoo is rtl, Nikerabbit is mysterious as ever
[15:34:57] <ferdbold>	 you guys just had to go and ruin the fun haha
[15:35:00] <Niharika>	 I don't think rabbits have thumbs. I didn't ask for paws, my bad.
[15:35:19] <vikasyaligar>	 o/
[15:35:21] <mooeypoo>	 I'm also left-handed. I'm double flipped.
[15:35:33] <vikasyaligar>	 Hello Niharika, aharoni
[15:35:55] <Niharika>	 Okay, if everyone's ready, I think we can start with the interns introducing themselves and their projects and then do a QnA for each project as we go along.
[15:36:00] <Niharika>	 Hi vikasyaligar!
[15:36:18] * mvolz is also left handed
[15:36:19] <qgil>	 Please let me type topic etc between projects
[15:36:25] <qgil>	 this way we keep the notes tidy
[15:36:45] <Niharika>	 First up is, ferdbold with his project "Graph editing in VisualEditor"
[15:37:05] <qgil>	 #topic  ferdbold with his project "Graph editing in VisualEditor"
[15:37:16] <Niharika>	 By the way did everyone see his lightning talk, it was very cool!
[15:37:28] <ferdbold>	 Why thank you :)
[15:38:05] <ferdbold>	 So my project this summer was to create a module for the Graph extension that enables graph viewing and edition within VisualEditor.
[15:38:07] <happy5214|away>	 \o/
[15:38:42] <ferdbold>	 This enables the user to edit graphs in a user-friendly UI instead of having to edit its JSON specification directly in wikitext.
[15:40:04] <tinajohnson>	 awesome!
[15:40:08] <qgil>	 (Everybody: if you have typed your intro somewhere, then copy&paste here is quicker and easier)
[15:40:16] <ferdbold>	 The project is already merged into MediaWiki. I've set up a demo graoh you can fiddle with in the VE sandbox, here: www.mediawiki.com/wiki/VisualEditor:Test
[15:40:44] <ferdbold>	 (Yeah I'm sorry, I'm actually stuck on mobile since I discovered my school's network doesn't like IRC)
[15:40:56] <qgil>	 ferdbold, you mean https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor:Test ?
[15:41:14] <ferdbold>	 Yes, sorry. Again, mobile woes. :/
[15:41:22] <Niharika>	 :)
[15:41:25] <qgil>	 I can only see a template there
[15:41:36] <qgil>	 maybe your mentors can help?
[15:41:40] <qgil>	 with the url
[15:41:54] <ferdbold>	 Hmmm, someone must have edited it. Hold on, restoring
[15:42:11] <mooeypoo>	 I was about to say
[15:42:32] <qgil>	 rollbacked 1`edit by one bot
[15:42:37] <ferdbold>	 Here, now it's good
[15:42:38] <Niharika>	 Yep, can see it now.
[15:42:48] <qgil>	 #link https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor:Test
[15:43:10] <qgil>	 omg, this is cool
[15:43:11] <matt_flaschen>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=VisualEditor:Test&oldid=1898990
[15:43:26] <tinajohnson>	 wow!
[15:43:39] <vikasyaligar>	 wow ! looks awesome.
[15:43:49] <mooeypoo>	 If you need the full url for that, this will probably be better: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=VisualEditor:Test&oldid=1898990&veaction=edit
[15:43:50] <matt_flaschen>	 Very nice
[15:43:56] <Niharika>	 Very cool. ferdbold, I dunno if you noticed, but during your talk the other day, there was a request that you leave the "Raw data" tab in there.
[15:43:59] <dannyh>	 wow, nice
[15:44:16] <Niharika>	 So, anyone got questions for ferdbold?
[15:44:39] <dannyh>	 yeah, when does this get merged?
[15:44:39] <ferdbold>	 Yes I've seen it. We'll see what the UI team thinks of it, but I have no issue leaving it there :)
[15:45:02] <qgil>	 dannyh, this is mediawiki.org, it is merged
[15:45:05] <mooeypoo>	 dannyh, it's already in production
[15:45:09] <dannyh>	 oh, yay
[15:45:09] <mvolz>	 I think it's a good idea to leave in too :)
[15:45:26] <mooeypoo>	 Yeah, I begrudgingly agree.
[15:45:34] <Niharika>	 :)
[15:45:48] <Niharika>	 We can move on to our next project. phoenix303: Reinventing Translation Search
[15:45:57] <qgil>	 #topic  phoenix303: Reinventing Translation Search
[15:46:55] <phoenix303>	 Hello everyone!!
[15:47:00] <phoenix303>	 #link https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:SearchTranslations?query=wiki
[15:47:11] <qgil>	 #link https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:SearchTranslations?query=wiki
[15:47:18] <qgil>	 oops, sorry
[15:47:53] <Niharika>	 (Also, next up in line are: happy5214, sitic, codezee)
[15:48:04] <phoenix303>	 During my internship, my goal was to implement Cross language translation search which finds all messages that contain string X and see how they are translated into language Y.
[15:49:13] <Nikerabbit>	 a feature that has been long missing, I can say
[15:49:18] <mooeypoo>	 oooh
[15:49:43] <Niharika>	 I was surprised this one doesn't already exist. :)
[15:50:08] <phoenix303>	 Translators often want to check how a specific term was translated in a certain language across the project.
[15:50:08] <Niharika>	 We can have questions for phoenix303, if anyone's got some?
[15:50:10] <phoenix303>	 :)
[15:50:31] <qgil>	 Another merged project! clap clap clap
[15:50:42] <Niharika>	 Woot. Thanks, phoenix303!
[15:50:45] <phoenix303>	 Thank you :)
[15:51:08] <qgil>	 phoenix303, is this part of Translate?
[15:51:19] <qgil>	 mEANING, A THIRD PARTY MEDIAWIKI CAN BENEFIT FROM THIS MEMORY?
[15:51:20] <phoenix303>	 yes qgil
[15:51:22] <qgil>	 ooops
[15:51:33] <Niharika>	 :)
[15:51:36] <qgil>	 (I got excited, I guess)
[15:51:42] <tinajohnson>	 :)
[15:51:49] <ferdbold>	 haha
[15:52:13] <matt_flaschen>	 https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:SearchTranslations&filter=translated&language=es&query=edit shows the 'specific language' part.
[15:52:29] <qgil>	 #link https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:SearchTranslations&filter=translated&language=es&query=edit
[15:52:37] <mooeypoo>	 Can this also help detect unused messages?
[15:53:14] <phoenix303>	 mooeypoo, you mean untranslated messages? yes!
[15:53:29] <phoenix303>	 https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:SearchTranslations&filter=untranslated&language=es&query=edit
[15:53:33] <Niharika>	 phoenix303: Nikerabbit:^
[15:53:37] <Niharika>	 Oops.
[15:53:58] <qgil>	 #link https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:SearchTranslations&filter=untranslated&language=es&query=edit
[15:54:07] <mooeypoo>	 ooh
[15:54:09] <mooeypoo>	 very cool
[15:54:26] <Niharika>	 We can move on to our next project, a Pywikibot one: happy5214: Implement Flow support in Pywikibot
[15:54:37] <tonythomas>	 o/
[15:54:39] <qgil>	 #topic happy5214: Implement Flow support in Pywikibot
[15:54:51] <polybuildr>	 I am so very sorry, got caught up in some other work and didn't notice the time.
[15:54:52] <happy5214>	 #link https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pywikibot_test
[15:55:00] <happy5214>	 And...
[15:55:05] <happy5214>	 #link https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pywikibot_Flow_Demo_User
[15:55:23] <happy5214>	 My project was to implement initial Flow support in Pywikibot.
[15:55:58] <qgil>	 #info "If you can read this, the Flow code in Pywikibot works!" :D
[15:56:48] <happy5214>	 Along with uncovering issues with the existing code, this project implemented support for reading content in HTML and Wikitext, posting new topics and replies, and locking and unlocking topics.
[15:57:11] <Niharika>	 :) I think that's gonna be quite useful.
[15:57:17] <qgil>	 wow
[15:57:19] <happy5214>	 All of that code has already been merged.
[15:57:32] <quiddity>	 \o/
[15:57:49] <happy5214>	 I also have unmerged code that includes bot modifications to post to Flow boards.
[15:57:53] <Niharika>	 We broke our records on number of merged projects this year, I think. Yay.
[15:57:57] <matt_flaschen>	 Yep, happy5214 got code merged as we went along, so common use cases like posting new topics and resolving topics (clerking bot) are already possible.
[15:58:06] <qgil>	 For those of you attending this meeting for the first time: "this code has been merged" sounds easy, but in previous years.......
[15:58:09] <dannyh>	 yay, fantastic
[15:58:18] <happy5214>	 #link https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/232737/
[15:58:20] <tonythomas>	 qgil: true :)
[15:58:23] <mooeypoo>	 woohoo
[15:58:29] <matt_flaschen>	 There is more functionality to include in Pywikibot as well if anyone is interested. :)
[15:58:31] <Niharika>	 Questions?
[15:58:39] <matt_flaschen>	 And happy5214 also got a couple patches merged to Flow itself.
[15:58:49] <Niharika>	 yeah, there's one more PWB project that was completed this round. :)
[15:59:23] <Niharika>	 Okay, assuming no questions, our next project is (one of my favorites) - sitic: Crosswatch
[15:59:36] <qgil>	 #topic sitic: Crosswatch
[15:59:39] <sitic>	 Hey everyone, I'm a physics student from Germany. I build crosswatch for GSoC, a crosswiki watchlist OAuth tool: #link https://tools.wmflabs.org/crosswatch/
[15:59:44] <sitic>	 Among other things, it can show cross-wiki notifications, diffs for edits by clicking on a watchlist entry and has dynamic filtering.
[15:59:53] <qgil>	 #link https://tools.wmflabs.org/crosswatch/
[16:00:02] <sitic>	 The plan was also to experiment a bit with the watchlist layout, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Crosswatch.png for a screenshot. (It can also do a more "classical" layout and a watchlist divided into the different wikis instead of unified)
[16:00:23] <qgil>	 #link https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Crosswatch.png
[16:01:28] <mooeypoo>	 oooh! nice! (Also, go go Physics!)
[16:01:47] <Niharika>	 :)
[16:01:50] <tinajohnson>	 woah!  very nice :)
[16:02:16] <Niharika>	 I think it's quite nicely designed.
[16:02:30] <qgil>	 This crosswatchlist means goodbye to my mediawiki.org-focused  productivity   ;)
[16:02:30] <Niharika>	 Well, questions?
[16:02:44] <eranroz1>	 nice! does it support wikidata?
[16:02:47] <qgil>	 way cool
[16:02:48] <matt_flaschen>	 Oh, nice, it has search.
[16:03:03] <Niharika>	 And you can see diffs in the app itself.
[16:03:17] <matt_flaschen>	 Yeah, Wikidata looks fine.
[16:03:18] <qgil>	 These colors at the left border?
[16:03:23] <matt_flaschen>	 Even for Q entities.
[16:03:31] <sitic>	 eranroz1: yes, but it only it only shows the item ID for the title, not the label
[16:03:37] <tinajohnson>	 the cross wiki part, was it really hard ?
[16:03:39] <sitic>	 but diffs etc work
[16:03:44] <Niharika>	 sitic: Can we mark stuff as Read via the app?
[16:04:22] <Niharika>	 (By the way: next up in line are codezee, VcamX, tinajohnson)
[16:04:45] <sitic>	 Niharika: not yet, that was actually one of the things I wanted to improve. Problem was some diffs are automatically shown.
[16:05:11] <Niharika>	 Ah. I was wondering about that.
[16:05:19] <sitic>	 qgil: just to differentiate the projects, each one has a different color
[16:05:33] <qgil>	 ah, ok, thank you
[16:06:00] * quiddity gets lost opening unseen recent items...
[16:06:04] <qgil>	 then I found a bug with different projects with same colors  ;)
[16:06:14] <Niharika>	 The "Show individual watch list for each wiki" makes that clear.
[16:06:44] <sitic>	 I think then you have too many projects (or I have too few colors in that array)
[16:06:51] <Niharika>	 Okay, let's move on to our next presenter, codezee: Wikivoyage Pagebanner extension
[16:07:01] <qgil>	 #topic  codezee: Wikivoyage Pagebanner extension
[16:07:10] <codezee>	 Hello everyone, I'm Sumit. My GSoC 2015 project was an inspiration from and a refinement to https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Banner_Expedition
[16:07:11] <Niharika>	 (Another great lightning talk the other day :)
[16:07:35] <codezee>	 Target wikis were mainly different wikivoyage projects
[16:07:37] <codezee>	 #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1PPCGMVl8KICII1hWXr1KWnlGE_jmpWADLv8MjC1VHeQ/edit?usp=sharing and #link https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109285
[16:07:53] <qgil>	 #link https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109285
[16:08:14] <codezee>	 One can see live demo on #link https://ru.wikivoyage.org/wiki/ and #link https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Vancouver
[16:08:24] <codezee>	 where its currently deployed
[16:08:37] <Niharika>	 Yay to supporting mobile.
[16:09:08] <Niharika>	 Questions for Sumit?
[16:09:14] <codezee>	 The main advantages over templates - Mobile compatibility, multilevel TOC's, and automatic cropping with focus Support
[16:09:26] <matt_flaschen>	 Nice job getting a quite prominent feature deployed.
[16:09:47] <codezee>	 lastly, examples #link http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/WikidataPageBanner_example_1 , #link http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/WikidataPageBanner_example_2 , #link http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/WikidataPageBanner_example_4
[16:10:01] <codezee>	 Also it has wikidata integration
[16:10:11] <qgil>	 Playing with absurd windows sizes, and it keeps presenting a sensible banner. Very responsive!
[16:10:14] <codezee>	 shown in example 2
[16:10:19] <Niharika>	 codezee:  Does it crop the image to the focus rectangle in CSS or create a new image based on the resizing/zooming?
[16:11:13] <codezee>	 it first sends a responsive image depending upon browser and then uses cropping to fit within viewport, focusing is done by setting coordinates
[16:11:43] <codezee>	 since the banner image is quite large, mobile users save bandwidth with a small banner
[16:11:43] <Niharika>	 Ah. Okay.
[16:11:52] <Niharika>	 Nice.
[16:12:08] <Niharika>	 Moving on, our next intern is VcamX with another PWB project - VcamX: Implement support for OAuth in Pywikibot
[16:12:17] <qgil>	 #topic  VcamX: Implement support for OAuth in Pywikibot
[16:12:30] <VcamX>	 Hi, I'm Jiarong Wei(VcamX), my project is implementing OAuth support for Pywikibot. #link https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109289
[16:12:50] <VcamX>	 MediaWiki supports OAuth v1.0a as a method of authentication via OAuth extension. This project adds OAuth v1.0a support for Pywikibot.
[16:13:05] <VcamX>	 Pywikibot could be used as an OAuth application for MediaWiki sites with OAuth extension installed and configured properly. Users could use Pywikibot to authenticate accounts and replace password with OAuth authentication as an alternative login method.
[16:13:18] <VcamX>	 This project also includes switching of HTTP library from httplib2 to requests and unit tests related to OAuth authentication and its integration with Pywikibot. All integration builds of Pywikibot now test OAuth on Travis CI (Ubuntu) and Appveyor (Win32). This enables 'logged in' tests to be performed on some wiki sites, including beta wiki, which is deployed on Beta Cluster and is an environment where password's are not considered secure.
[16:14:10] <Niharika>	 Another cool addition to Pywikibot, thanks VcamX!
[16:14:24] <VcamX>	 :D
[16:14:42] <VcamX>	 All implemented features are all merge in Pywikibot's master branch
[16:14:47] <Niharika>	 (I'm quickly realizing how useful these tools are, having used PWB a bit lately)
[16:14:47] <qgil>	 VcamX, can you provide examples of users benefiting from this?
[16:14:48] <VcamX>	 *merged
[16:15:11] <mooeypoo>	 yay good job
[16:15:48] <VcamX>	 The obvious example is that user doesn't need to store his password in file
[16:15:59] <VcamX>	 only OAuth tokens
[16:16:26] <tonythomas>	 I dont know how absurd it sounds, but why not oauth 2.0 ?
[16:16:29] <qgil>	 (I meant use cases, but you had answer that -- sorry, nevermind)  :D
[16:17:29] <VcamX>	 tonythomas: since MediaWiki supports OAuth v1.0a via plugin
[16:17:55] <tonythomas>	 VcamX: great :)
[16:18:01] <Niharika>	 :)
[16:18:02] <Niharika>	 So, moving on to our next project: tinajohnson: Newsletter extension project
[16:18:11] <tinajohnson>	 Alright!
[16:18:12] <tonythomas>	 yay!
[16:18:12] <qgil>	 #topic  tinajohnson: Newsletter extension project
[16:18:23] <tinajohnson>	 Hi everyone, I’m Tina Johnson aka Tinaj1234 and my project was and still is Newsletter extension for Mediawiki.
[16:18:32] <tinajohnson>	 The aim of my project was to finish what Siebrand and Quim had already started, to create an extension which does subscribing, un-subscribing, creating newsletters, creating issues, adding publishers, deleting newsletters ...all this at one place and also to put up a nice user friendly UI for all these functionalities.
[16:18:53] <tinajohnson>	 We are yet to deploy the extension(hopefully before new year :)) and here’s where you’ll find the most updated code - #link https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Newsletter
[16:18:53] <Niharika>	 (Next up are ankita-ks and polybuildr)
[16:19:05] <tinajohnson>	 Testing can be done: #link http://newsletter-test.wmflabs.org/
[16:19:08] <qgil>	  #link https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Newsletter
[16:19:17] <qgil>	 #link http://newsletter-test.wmflabs.org/
[16:19:19] <tinajohnson>	 Project page: #link https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Newsletter
[16:19:20] <mooeypoo>	 oooooh
[16:19:27] <qgil>	 #link https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Newsletter
[16:19:32] <tonythomas>	 also - newsletter-test.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:Newslettersto be exact !
[16:19:36] <tinajohnson>	 Project Workboard: #link https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/mediawiki-extensions-newsletter/
[16:20:24] <tinajohnson>	 and just in case, Project description: #link https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76199
[16:20:28] <Niharika>	 I hope this gets merged soon. It can be really really helpful. :)
[16:20:44] <tinajohnson>	 yeah
[16:20:46] <tinajohnson>	 :)
[16:20:52] <Niharika>	 Any questions for tinajohnson, tonythomas and qgil?
[16:21:02] <qgil>	 There is some work to be done, but we're getting there.  :)
[16:21:03] <happy5214>	 Does it integrate with Flow yet?
[16:21:08] <mooeypoo>	 Super cool
[16:21:19] <tinajohnson>	 not yet, but with Echo, yes
[16:21:29] <qgil>	 Does it need to integrate with Flow
[16:21:36] <qgil>	 You receive notifications, not posts in your talk page
[16:21:51] <mooeypoo>	 what's missing to get this fully merged?
[16:22:02] <tonythomas>	 true - makes it different from MassMessage :)
[16:22:12] <happy5214>	 You could create a workflow for the newsroom, but that's far down the road.
[16:22:19] <tinajohnson>	 mooeypoo:  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/mediawiki-extensions-newsletter/
[16:22:37] <mooeypoo>	 Also, tinajohnson you mentioned this was *and is* your project. Are you planning to continue working on this?
[16:22:37] <tinajohnson>	 once the tasks under feature complete is done we'll deploy
[16:22:53] <tonythomas>	 mooeypoo: no major blockers I guess. but some UI  and design changes still remains. Thanks to tinajohnson qgil addshore Glaisher quiddity  and loads more
[16:22:55] <qgil>	 and the technical review.....
[16:23:06] <mooeypoo>	 that's awesome
[16:23:12] <quiddity>	 very
[16:23:17] <Niharika>	 They still have their weekly(?) IRC meetings! :)
[16:23:25] <tinajohnson>	 mooeypoo: Yes!
[16:23:29] <qgil>	 yes, today the last one
[16:23:34] <mooeypoo>	 tinajohnson, yay!
[16:23:34] <tonythomas>	 Niharika: yup !
[16:23:41] <tinajohnson>	 (Thank you qgil and tonythomas for being wonderful mentors, special thanks to addShore, Glaisher, Siebrand, Niharika and everyone who dropped by to help.)
[16:23:41] <polybuildr>	 wow, that's awesome :D
[16:24:12] <tinajohnson>	 :)
[16:24:17] <Niharika>	 So, moving on to our next very interesting project: ankita-ks: Language proofing tool for VisualEditor
[16:24:23] <matt_flaschen>	 #link http://newsletter-test.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:Newsletters
[16:24:24] <aharoni>	 hallo
[16:24:29] <qgil>	 #topic ankita-ks: Language proofing tool for VisualEditor
[16:24:36] <ankita-ks>	 Hi, I am Ankita
[16:25:12] <ankita-ks>	 My project aims to enable Language-proofing support for VisualEditor
[16:25:22] <ankita-ks>	 for as many languages as possible.
[16:25:50] <ankita-ks>	 For this we have taken an open source tool called LanguageTool and integrated it with VisualEditor.
[16:25:59] <ankita-ks>	 Created an extension to be specific.
[16:26:15] <ankita-ks>	 The project page is here : mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LanguageTool
[16:26:32] <qgil>	 #link https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LanguageTool
[16:26:37] <matt_flaschen>	 Can you explain what language-proofing is?
[16:26:37] <ankita-ks>	 and here is a test instance : http://languagetoolextension.wmflabs.org/
[16:26:58] <qgil>	 #link http://languagetoolextension.wmflabs.org/
[16:26:59] <mooeypoo>	 This is great, I'm so glad to see this came out
[16:27:01] <Niharika>	 matt_flaschen: Checking for spelling and grammar errors basically.
[16:27:11] <ankita-ks>	 So very simply put it is a spelling and grammar checker
[16:27:15] <ankita-ks>	 for VisualEditor as of now
[16:27:27] <ferdbold>	 wow that is cool
[16:27:57] <mooeypoo>	 This looks great!
[16:28:00] <ankita-ks>	 The good thing about LanguageTool is that you can add support for new languages quite easily
[16:28:01] <Niharika>	 Before we run out of time, I want to run through our last presenter, another interesting extension - polybuildr: Smitespam extension
[16:28:02] <tinajohnson>	 awesome!
[16:28:27] <ankita-ks>	 Currently this is supported for around 30 languages.
[16:28:35] <qgil>	 #topic polybuildr: Smitespam extension
[16:28:38] <ankita-ks>	 This test instance is for english
[16:28:40] <mooeypoo>	 good job ankita-ks
[16:28:51] <polybuildr>	 Hello! o/ I'm Vivek Ghaisas.
[16:28:56] <polybuildr>	 I was working on building a new spam fighting extension. You can find it at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SmiteSpam
[16:29:18] <polybuildr>	 While MediaWiki has a lot of spam fighting extensions, most of them combat new incoming spam.
[16:29:48] <qgil>	 #link https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SmiteSpam
[16:29:49] <polybuildr>	 Several wikis exist that already have spam problems, and while these extensions certainly help in keeping away more spam, there's not much that can be done about the old spam, apart from manually going through all of the pages of the wiki.
[16:30:28] <polybuildr>	 SmiteSpam attempts to address this issue. Once installed, it provides a special page (Special:SmiteSpam) that goes through the wiki pages and applies some simple rules (nothing smart) in order to identify spam pages.
[16:30:30] <qgil>	 (the tedious work for 3rd part mediawiki admins...)  :(
[16:30:47] <polybuildr>	 Once detected, it allows admins to delete these pages and also optionally block the creator of the pages.
[16:30:59] <mooeypoo>	 oh wow... that is cool
[16:31:27] <matt_flaschen>	 Yeah, this is great.  I think it's pretty common for a third-party admin to set up a wiki, go away, and come back to see it filled with spam.
[16:31:27] <polybuildr>	 Yaron has kindly opened up the permissions on DiscourseDB, so we can take a look at the extension in action.
[16:31:43] <polybuildr>	 http://www.discoursedb.org/wiki/Special:SmiteSpam is open for some time, so we can take a look.
[16:31:56] <qgil>	 (I will not link in notes, then)
[16:32:13] <polybuildr>	 qgil: yeah, will be closed down soon.
[16:32:17] <matt_flaschen>	 Even some Wikimedia Labs wikis have had spam backlog problems in the past.
[16:32:31] <polybuildr>	 It uses the MW API to block and delete pages, so even though the page is open, we can't use it because we don't have admin rights.
[16:32:39] <mooeypoo>	 There are screenshots in the extension page, good job with that
[16:32:51] <polybuildr>	 The UI isn't too great, but I think it'll certainly help get the job done.
[16:32:52] <dannyh>	 how does the "Trust" button work?
[16:33:07] <qgil>	 "Medium", "High"  cool!
[16:33:07] <dannyh>	 oh, I see -- sorry :)
[16:33:21] <polybuildr>	 dannyh: That's one permission we do have, so Yaron will have to empty his trusted users list after this. :P
[16:33:22] <dannyh>	 I didn't notice the "Created by user"
[16:33:36] <dannyh>	 that's a really good feature
[16:33:43] <Yaron>	 It's fine - anyone should feel free to play around with the features.
[16:33:55] <polybuildr>	 In case the extension is making mistakes and reporting false positives, you can choose to "Trust" the user.
[16:34:05] <polybuildr>	 The extension will then ignore pages created by this user in future runs.
[16:34:12] <dannyh>	 you might want to highlight that line more -- it does get kind of lost among the much bigger/bolder page names #bikeshed
[16:34:20] <mooeypoo>	 polybuildr, you mentioned it's doing a simple check "nothing smart" -- is it hard to add or edit the rules it uses to find spam?
[16:34:40] <polybuildr>	 dannyh: Willdo, thanks for the suggestion.
[16:34:42] <qgil>	 (most spam is not smart either...)
[16:35:00] <mooeypoo>	 Aye, indeed
[16:35:03] <polybuildr>	 mooeypoo: Well, the rules are part of the code. So I'd say yes, it's rather difficult to edit the rules.
[16:35:07] <polybuildr>	 However, there are configuration options.
[16:35:22] <polybuildr>	 And you can selectively enable/disable or even increase weight of a particular check.
[16:35:36] <polybuildr>	 That should give admins a little freedom to customize the extension for their wiki.
[16:36:15] <Niharika>	 Nice work, polybuildr.
[16:36:17] <polybuildr>	 But yes, mostly, SmiteSpam fights only the dumb spam that qgil mentioned.
[16:36:22] <mooeypoo>	 polybuildr, I meant for future developers. I should be more concise; I'm asking because this looks like it could, at some point, be a great thing to integrate with some machine learning back end. I think we already have something similar going on much much smaller scale in research where we tag edits as helpful / unhelpful / etc.
[16:36:35] <mooeypoo>	 Great project! Good options for the future to be more robust, too
[16:36:56] <Niharika>	 I think it's time to wrap-up. Our interns are frequent on IRC, so catching hold of them for further interrogation shouldn't be hard. :)
[16:37:04] <polybuildr>	 mooeypoo: Ah, for developers it should be pretty easy. There are Checker classes that return integer values, reporting their evaluation of the page.
[16:37:10] <qgil>	 #topic Closure
[16:37:22] <mooeypoo>	 polybuildr, very cool :)
[16:37:23] <Niharika>	 Interns who haven't given lightning talks this month are requested to enroll for the next round.
[16:37:36] <Niharika>	 Thanks for showing up everyone!
[16:37:46] <mooeypoo>	 Good job everyone! Great projects this year!
[16:37:54] <matt_flaschen>	 Thanks.  Lots of great stuff.
[16:37:56] <Niharika>	 Special thanks to our SF folks for waking up early. :) mooeypoo mvolz dannyh
[16:38:07] <dannyh>	 yay, thanks!
[16:38:08] <Niharika>	 And thanks VcamX for staying up late. :)
[16:38:25] <VcamX>	 Thanks you all :D
[16:38:30] <mooeypoo>	 Yeah, speaking of which, I need to run to the office.... ;) see you soon, some on IRC, and some in person.
[16:38:35] <qgil>	 #endmeeting
[16:38:36] <wm-labs-meetbot`>	 Meeting ended Thu Sep 24 16:38:35 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
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[16:38:46] <qgil>	 Thank you all. You're awesome!
[16:39:06] <qgil>	 ... and with such stellar contributions we hope to keep seeing you around...  :)
[16:39:15] <Niharika>	 Yes! :)
[16:39:16] <polybuildr>	 That's a nice bot. I like you, wm-labs-meetbot`
[16:39:44] <polybuildr>	 qgil: Oh, yes. I'm now attached to the community and the code base. :P
[16:39:57] <qgil>	 :)
[16:40:20] <qgil>	 all you are in a very good position to apply for participation in our ackathons next year, for instance
[16:40:33] <qgil>	 hackathons  :)
[16:40:43] <polybuildr>	 with scholarships, I hope? :P
[16:40:52] <qgil>	 and I mean including travel sponsorship (our hackathons are open to anybody)
[16:41:20] <Niharika>	 polybuildr: If you stay involved, that is. :P
[16:41:33] <polybuildr>	 Niharika: Of course. :P
[16:41:54] * qgil has to enroll Niharika in the travel sponsorship committee
[16:42:01] <Niharika>	 :D
[16:42:12] <polybuildr>	 I'm currently not contributing much, but I was given +2 on mediawiki/tools/codesniffer earlier this summer. :D
[16:42:45] <polybuildr>	 I intend to stick around, to work on both - my extension and MW codesniffer. :)
[16:42:56] <Niharika>	 That's cool.
[16:43:52] <qgil>	 24 participants! https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2015/wikimedia-office.2015-09-24-15.31.html
[16:44:08] <qgil>	 active participants
[16:44:28] <qgil>	 and no action items, what a great meeting  ;)
[16:45:31] <JohnFLewis>	 only 24? :o
[16:45:53] <polybuildr>	 also, to the community: thanks a lot for all the support you give new contributors and interns :D
[16:46:19] <Niharika>	 I think we should have an after-showcase thanking party.
[16:46:19] <polybuildr>	 and my mentors were awesome too! :D Thanks a lot, Yaron and jan!
[16:47:26] <polybuildr>	 We really should.
[16:49:29] <aharoni>	 ankita-ks , you were an awesome mentee
[16:50:00] <aharoni>	 eranroz (who seems to have left) were an awesome co-mentor (useful to have somebody who is actually familiar with the VE code as a co-mentor!!!)
[16:50:17] <aharoni>	 mooey|away helped a lot as well
[16:50:19] <Niharika>	 aharoni: ankita-ks: I hope language tool gets merged soon. It's super cool!
[16:50:37] <aharoni>	 Niharika: thanks!