[16:45:18] <dynosaur>	 Licensing tech talk will be starting in 15 min - link to follow on youtube in the topic
[16:56:49] <dynosaur>	 We are starting in 5 min
[17:00:37] <dynosaur>	 just about to start
[17:02:18] <dynosaur>	 We are live
[17:03:25] <spagewmf>	 how do you ask questions on YouTube ;-)
[17:03:30] <dynosaur>	 here
[17:03:35] <dynosaur>	 ping me with them and I will ask
[17:03:40] <spagewmf>	 hi!
[17:03:50] <dynosaur>	 hi spagewmf :)
[17:04:57] <bd808>	 not FLOSS?
[17:05:10] <dynosaur>	 he said FLOSS
[17:05:11] * bd808 wants Libre in there
[17:07:06] <spagewmf>	 he's right https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Mission_statement
[17:07:46] <bd808>	 See also https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Wikimedia_Foundation_Guiding_Principles#Freedom_and_open_source
[17:08:08] <dynosaur>	 are you guys seeing the slides?
[17:08:13] <bd808>	 yes
[17:08:16] <dynosaur>	 great
[17:09:27] <bd808>	 OSI lists at http://opensource.org/licenses
[17:09:47] <spagewmf>	 the audio has the usual Chambers/speakerphone hard echo, but Stephen is quite intelligible
[17:10:13] <dynosaur>	 can you hear people typing?
[17:10:26] <spagewmf>	 no, just Stephen
[17:10:33] <dynosaur>	 ok, great
[17:16:31] <spagewmf>	 Android Wikipedia Beta app's menu > More > About the Wikipedia app"lists the licenses of the libraries it uses, but where is its own license
[17:18:11] <niedzielski>	 spagewmf: we have it in the repo but you're right, i don't see it exposed in the ui. i'll file a phab and add you
[17:19:31] <dynosaur>	 start thinking of your questions :)
[17:20:47] <dynosaur>	 That was Luis and Roan talking
[17:21:26] <spagewmf>	 question: So WMF could use AGPL because we make the software available, but it would mean that other sites would have to make their "modified" MediaWiki S/W available too?
[17:21:52] <dynosaur>	 greg-g chatted to the live hangout the comment: "CC bY-SA 4.0 is one-way compat with GPL"
[17:22:04] <greg-g>	 yeah, sorry
[17:22:09] <dynosaur>	 no worires :)
[17:22:11] <greg-g>	 :)
[17:22:20] <dynosaur>	 spagewmf: will ask
[17:22:40] <spagewmf>	 should I join the live hangout? YouTube ofers "Be part of the conversation"
[17:22:43] <bd808>	 AGPL would kill reuse of MW in my personal opinion
[17:24:03] <dynosaur>	 sure S
[17:24:06] <dynosaur>	 let me send you the link
[17:24:26] <dynosaur>	 spagewmf: see pm
[17:28:15] <bd808>	 dynosaur: regarding CLAs, does WMF have a page somewhere listing CLAs that have already been reviewed and the outcome?
[17:28:24] <dynosaur>	 will ask
[17:30:13] <dynosaur>	 Any other questions?
[17:30:50] <spagewmf>	 sorry to say, I do
[17:30:56] <dynosaur>	 good :)
[17:31:01] <dynosaur>	 continue on
[17:31:20] <greg-g>	 question-not-question: GPLv2 or v3, fight!
[17:31:34] <dynosaur>	 ha
[17:31:43] <dynosaur>	 I will let you unmute and say that
[17:32:03] <bd808>	 v3 for new things; don't touch v2+ for existing IMO
[17:32:06] <greg-g>	 I do have one, actually, too
[17:32:11] <greg-g>	 dynosaur: ^
[17:32:57] <dynosaur>	 OK - you can ask live I will try to cue you :)
[17:33:09] <greg-g>	 kk
[17:38:13] <greg-g>	 haha, screenshots of software :)
[17:39:59] <spagewmf>	 Blueprint skin uses MIT license!?  And extensions/examples and extensions/BoilerPlate don't have a COPYING (good for sample code, bad for encouraging FLOSS)
[17:40:29] <Volker_E>	 I was not aware of the legal incompatibility of Stack Overflow code snippets and GPL
[17:41:04] <Volker_E>	 spagewmf: prtksxna came up with that after talking to other devs on #wikimedia-dev
[17:41:15] <Volker_E>	 spagewmf: I actually questioned that
[17:41:24] <dynosaur>	 thanks everyone :)
[17:41:29] <Volker_E>	 thanks!
[17:41:54] <spagewmf>	 Volker_E: freedom-hating one-percent developers on #wikimedia-dev ? :-)
[17:42:40] <Volker_E>	 spagewmf: I wouldn't yet call them out without knowing their names and addresses :)
[17:48:50] <spagewmf>	 would be nice to have a MakeExtension script/vagrant role that copies BoilerPlate, s/BoilerPlate/Bd808LegoMaker/g, and adds a COPYING (default GPL v2) file?
[17:49:02] <legoktm>	 :o
[17:49:30] <legoktm>	 I've been thinking about making a yo generator thing, similar to the one that ori made for libraries
[17:49:49] <legoktm>	 (https://github.com/wikimedia/generator-wikimedia-php-library)
[17:51:14] <spagewmf>	 legoktm for CTO