[12:58:24] hmm, someone should tell fundraising that launching a fundraising in the aftermath of a terrorism act might not be... handy [18:17:17] talk on community dynamics / WMF will be starting in less than 15 min [18:17:24] hold on a second for the link in the topic [18:18:51] The link to the youtube steam is in the topic - you can ping me with questions about this talk [18:19:11] we will be starting in just over 10 min [18:29:29] we may be delayed a few min due to technical difficulties [18:33:00] rfarrand, no problem! [18:33:12] Is Chris in the office or is he presenting remotely? [18:34:08] we have just started! [18:34:11] he is remote from the UK [18:34:15] questions at the end [18:34:23] I can ask for anyone who is remote :) [18:34:55] go ! [18:34:56] :D [18:35:00] Thanks rfarrand [18:37:08] 15 people in SF, 1 on the hangout and 17 on youtube [18:50:58] did youtube sound die for anyone else? [18:51:07] may i have the hangout link? [18:51:38] The sound should be working here! [18:51:39] yt still working for me. [18:52:01] third restart of yt worked :) [18:52:02] ok good quiddity [18:52:10] ok, awesome [18:52:26] also working fine for me [19:02:51] ummmm, "discussion and consensus"? [19:06:26] questions? [19:07:19] I noticed that we had some meeting methodology during the summit that worked really well [19:07:43] i wonder if there is existing methodology out there that could help us in our community discussions as well. [19:07:58] or that could serve as inspiration for such a methodology [19:08:01] Can you form a specific question if you want me to ask? [19:08:08] what to do when the participants are not willing to participate in conversations? [19:08:23] Micru: I will ask [19:08:29] thanks, rfarrand [19:09:12] #endmeetimg [19:09:16] the "circle of concern/influence" is a useful model. in a wiki, the circle of influence is more-or-less always larger than the circle of concern, but the presence of an entity with actual authority breaks this. [19:09:23] Who is speaking? [19:09:44] haitham from CE [19:09:52] eyoung Thanks! [19:10:30] I have a question [19:10:43] ok, we have two in line [19:10:46] What happens when a community member that is advising a staff member is wrong, and gives bad advice? [19:11:02] I will ask cursive [19:11:10] first Micru then Sati [19:11:22] Because this happens a lot, the staff then gets heat for doing the "wrong thing", and no one ever notices that they were trying very hard [19:11:59] And staff cannot, of course, throw the community member under the bus [19:13:06] don't ever go by one person's opinion :) [19:19:22] any more questions? [19:23:00] * awjr claps [19:23:15] Thanks! [19:28:02] * CKoerne__ claps [19:28:02] * thedj breaks out his dance moves [19:28:02] ... too much ? [19:28:02] :D [19:28:54] you've exceeded the maximum fun allowed in this room [19:29:27] i knew it.. totally boring office