[00:07:02] Please ask questions! [00:07:49] hey all, i'm the AV tech here at WMF. please feel free to ping me if you have any technical questions about Blue Jeans [00:12:06] (is this session focused primarily on wmf internal issues, or is it more general?) [00:12:26] YairRand, it's very open [00:13:33] feel free to ask questions and they will be passed on :) [00:18:39] is there a link to the community engagement survey? [00:18:46] Are there any plans to focus some resources on some of the less-popular sister projects? [00:19:07] BrillLyle: for clarity - it was a staff engagement survey [00:19:58] if someone can track down the link on Commons to the Metrics when it was presented - that would be great :) [00:21:00] YairRand, your question is next [00:21:07] any specific projects you mean here? [00:21:10] BrillLyle, https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AWMF_Metrics_%26_Activities_Meeting_January_2016.pdf&page=49 [00:21:17] I think that was the Metrics presentation. [00:21:17] foks: thank you! :) [00:21:33] The recording is linked to from here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Metrics_and_activities_meetings/2016-01 [00:21:39] thanks!!! [00:21:45] No worries :) [00:30:08] brendan_campbell: from Etherpad: Comment: if you could put the IRC / Etherpad links in the caption of the youtube video, that'd be good. I had to ask privately to find it. [00:30:11] brendan_campbell, could you put the -- [00:30:14] :) [00:30:25] varnent: will do [00:30:26] Thank you. [00:30:26] Any further questions? [00:32:37] there was a 'key learnings' earlier on - DRINK! :-) [00:34:11] I might ask an entirely self-serving question about Club Mate [00:34:17] fair warning [00:36:51] https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-best-way-to-buy-Club-Mate-in-the-Bay-Area [00:37:05] http://club-mateusa.com/ [00:37:39] "moving forward" - drink! :-P [00:37:45] https://www.mateheads.com/ [00:38:21] Haha, I just send that to Zack. [00:40:31] we lost the room [00:40:40] brendan_campbell, we dropped [00:40:47] or the room did [00:40:54] Seddon [00:41:01] we are rebooting [00:41:05] Really [00:41:25] Ah I see. [00:41:25] apologies all [00:41:33] we should be back in a moment here [00:41:39] Wikimedia Entertainment Foundation [00:41:50] ? [00:42:06] ? [00:42:09] room is back [00:42:11] Oh yay [00:42:25] that was a lovely interlude of Seddon. [00:42:50] I hope everyone enjoyed that interlude [00:42:54] I didn't know Seddon could SING [00:43:20] AND dance! [00:43:58] A shame nobody in the office could see. [00:44:33] (I am disappointed...) [00:45:06] Hello, Risker! [00:45:16] * Risker waves from the airport [00:45:30] the meeting I was referring to earlier: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E171 [00:45:38] hi /risker [00:45:52] see you tomorrow, Wittylama [00:46:03] ha [00:46:21] I take it from the annual plan that the WMF are planning to raise 63m USD next fiscal year, which is significantly lower than the 72m USD actually raised in "donations and contributions" in 2015. Do you think we have reached a peak in terms of fundraising, or was last year unexpectedly successful? Or are you trying to keep fundraising lower on purpose, e.g. to avoid lengthy banner campaigns? Any thoughts on that? [00:46:42] See you soon Risker! Currently 2:45am here, but I'm considering this FDC research :-) [00:46:49] heh [00:46:53] whoah [00:47:33] pajz, I have added that to the etherpad - thanks [00:49:44] foks, thanks. [00:51:45] The etherpad is here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/May_2016_-_WMF_ED_May_2016_video_office_hours [00:51:59] (fwiw) [00:52:52] (correction: pajz's question said "significantly lower", not "slightly lower") [00:53:16] I just cut and paste it [00:53:17] Apologies for that Pajz. Good flag YairRand. [00:53:23] Oh, right, I see [00:53:57] np :) [00:57:58] (...is there a lot of lag in the youtube stream? I'm noticing some of the etherpad notes popping up before they're "said".) [00:58:19] YairRand: yes, the lag usually ranges from 20-60 seconds [00:58:19] Sometimes there is. [01:00:07] varnent, Zack_, FYI, there are thoughts in the BlueJeans chat as well [01:00:49] foks: yup - since they are feedback more than questions - and we are out of time already - we are passing along to KM [01:00:58] OK [01:02:58] Thanks for the response. [01:08:13] Thanks y'all [01:08:50] more conversational [01:08:58] * aude waves [01:09:10] thanks katherine :) [01:09:14] Thanks KM! [01:09:15] * krmaher waves back! [01:09:52] thanks wittylama for hanging out, despite it being the middle of the night! [01:10:01] Recording might have stopped - but you're still live on youtube. [01:10:17] and now you're off. [17:20:05] For some reason the officewiki main page photo has started to remind me of being inside a church [17:57:50] hmm, i can't get the CREDIT hangouts chat working... [17:58:16] thedj: which url you using? [17:58:26] the one on ethe mw.org [17:59:12] thedj: try this? https://hangouts.google.com/call/k2parlalfnb4zgmggveyzhe2aye [17:59:14] oh i know why [17:59:39] error HJR 2RNF apparently means restricted to organization [18:00:04] thedj: lemme see if brandon can update [18:00:46] or invite me personally on hartman.wiki @ gmail [18:01:13] dr0ptp4kt: nothing on the stream yet [18:01:30] thedj: updated link: https://hangouts.google.com/call/vjf5vvqjanf2jdm2us4eywvxkme [18:02:05] * brion waves [18:02:38] is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwTDDWjxoek still the right youtube link? [18:03:42] i think so, we havn't started streaming yet [18:03:58] brion: streaming about to start [18:04:21] i see it! [18:04:31] yayyy [18:04:51] \o/ [18:08:41] \o/ [18:08:49] So cool. [18:08:52] \o/\o/\o/ [18:08:59] it'll be SO much easier to port the rest of this to mobile [18:09:11] thanks to all derk-jan's work with videojs [18:09:53] https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/CREDIT [18:09:57] thedj: very exciting! looks awesome! [18:10:08] Nice. I like that you can specify the time clips when embedding. That should be way more maintainable for editors. Just upload the documentary once and show different parts on different pages. [18:10:16] thedj, you should have gone last ;) [18:10:38] yurik: :) [18:10:40] its hard to present after you :-P [18:10:41] you guys seeing dmitry's screen? [18:10:47] how do i 'present to everyone' when my turn comes up? [18:11:09] ebernhardson: there should be a button offering it somewhere on the hangouts screen... [18:11:24] dr0ptp4kt: i am yes (via youtube) [18:11:31] thx brion [18:12:02] oh hell yes real data infoboxes? [18:12:32] with each time the presentations keep getting better and better! [18:12:39] absolutely [18:12:59] a few months ago it was much less exciting stuff :) [18:13:19] oh that reminds me i may need to finish support for temporal url fragment on ogv.js or those start times might not be working [18:13:30] dbrant: You and I should chat to Lydia about this! I spoke with her about these kinds of concepts in Berlin late last year but I didn't have a working example of how it could be used :-) [18:14:10] uuu, we are getting Siri for wiki :) [18:14:15] dbrant: how can wikipedians configure what fields / properties are in the infobox? [18:15:16] Deskana: we definitely should! (and to designers, to improve the design :p ) [18:18:30] the link extract hack is clever! [18:19:50] aude: can't think of a way at the moment... it's currently a dump of everything. I think ideally it should be smart enough so that it wouldn't be necessary to manually specify which fields to show. [18:20:20] auto is hard :) expect more and more fields to be added in future [18:21:00] lack of curation is also a hard sell to the community, in my experience [18:21:14] bmansurov: That was a pretty neat thing. Is it Android only or would work on iOS too? [18:21:24] Nice use of TextExtracts [18:21:44] Niharika: thanks, haven't tried on iOS, I'm pretty sure it works on Chrome [18:21:54] dbrant: i think somehow it's a requirement and we need to come up with a way [18:21:59] Niharika: the only limitation is the window.print function which Firefox doesn't support for some reason [18:22:10] probably talk to lydia and hoo [18:22:19] bmansurov: Ah, I think Safari doesn't either. I'm guessing. [18:22:21] lol, the audio sounds like 1980s digital audio :) [18:22:23] Robot Monte [18:22:23] audio is super-robotc... [18:22:23] yeesh, i apologize for the static artifacts. av bridge needs to be reset [18:22:28] aude: agreed [18:22:43] I for one welcome our new robot overlords [18:22:49] brendan_campbell: i'm also getting them in hangouts, might come direct from monty? [18:23:14] ebernhardson: it's the AV bridge (hardware unit that consolidates audio and video for the mac mini) [18:23:31] Very much liked those results [18:24:29] whoooooa fancy [18:24:38] love that [18:24:42] so much good stuff [18:25:55] i think it would be espcially useful for autosuggest on searches [18:26:53] ebernhardson: the mountain.lausanne.ch column didn't look very switzerland-focused ;) [18:26:57] cool concept though [18:27:31] That's very cool. [18:28:52] HaeB: hmm, i suppose i didn't actually check them, it was pulling in things within 500km of lausanne, which might be too big an area [18:28:59] somalia seems a bit off though :S [18:31:18] jgirault: https://hangouts.google.com/call/vjf5vvqjanf2jdm2us4eywvxkme [18:31:19] HaeB: heh, the problem was i swapped lat and lon in the query on that one. oops :S [18:32:13] owch [18:32:28] mountain.lausanne.ch should have been these results: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P3058 [18:32:33] people seeing julien's screen? [18:32:41] yup [18:32:42] I can see it [18:32:42] yes [18:32:47] he has to install software updates ;) [18:32:50] thx quiddity and SMalyshev and brion [18:33:02] brion: ha [18:34:04] Audio messed up again? [18:34:35] Niharika: yeah the office has some static [18:34:50] yeah, it's not something i can fix without resetting the whole system (takes about 5-10 minutes) [18:36:32] oh like [18:39:25] nice, exactly what we had been discussing on the talk page. I didn't know julien was working on it. [18:39:48] awesome [18:40:28] anyone want to pontificate ? [18:41:01] woohoo! awesome stuff y'all [18:41:34] That's exactly what I was about to pontificate about (user privacy with external data sources) [18:41:48] yeah, most smooth, awesome all over the place good CREDIT session so far :) [18:42:20] thedj: I am not attempting but since you are apparently presenting video.js: thanks for that! [18:43:51] Thanks, awesome work [18:45:40] I should totally know this but is there like a good link to send ppl that is a "fix this one page you know about for the first time" walk through of editing a page [18:45:59] chasemp, sounds like GettingStarted. [18:46:16] chasemp, do you want a random page that needs easy fixes (like spelling and grammar)? [18:46:24] Or a page you know the recipient is interested in? [18:47:11] like person says "hey I saw x on this page and I know it's wrong do you fix that?" [18:47:13] so the last one [18:47:40] they see sometthing wrong and mention it when they hear I work here but I'm never sure what to follow up with [18:48:00] maybe there is simple response [18:48:08] s/is/is no [18:48:50] chasemp, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San%20Francisco?tour=firstedit . [18:49:43] chasemp, or you can send them right to VisualEditor if you want. [18:49:56] this might be a good bet [18:49:56] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City_Masonic_Temple?tour=firstedit [18:50:23] guy in question is on the board of masonic things here in kc I guess and talked my ear off about all the things they know is wrong w/ the wiki page(s) [18:50:31] to which I responded, awesome you guys should fix that [18:50:47] but how to kind of nudge them down a good path I wasn't sure [18:50:50] :) [18:51:00] chasemp, VisualEditor version is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San%20Francisco?veaction=edit&tour=firsteditve . [18:51:13] It will point them to the save button when they start editing. [18:51:22] Though honestly VE is pretty self-explanatory so the tour is optional. [18:52:19] yup [18:52:26] kinda interesting it looks like a lot of them are scarce [18:52:27] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Scottish_Rite_Temple_%28Kansas_City,_Kansas%29 [18:52:37] though I know the buildings in town are well known [18:53:03] and apparently this has been a topic of conversation for their board of directors [18:53:03] ha [18:53:12] guy just happens to run teh crew painting my house and there you go [18:54:06] thanks matt_flaschen [18:54:14] No problem, chasemp. [18:54:48] chasemp, hopefully they do not Conflict of Interest it too much. [18:55:41] true