[11:59:41] O_O [18:58:40] Hey everyone! [18:58:49] Asaf's talk will be starting in a moment [18:59:23] You can ping me with any questions you have and I will ask them over the mic [19:02:35] OK we are starting! [19:03:48] thank you quiddity :) [19:04:31] wikidata hipster :) [19:08:57] certain people _are_ a wikidata item :) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q14956410 [19:09:51] mutante: haha :) [19:10:28] brion ^ Im guessing you are already aware of your fame [19:10:34] :D [19:10:42] poor brion, forever cursed to be an example link :o [19:11:01] Emufarmers but at least we have a good example :) [19:26:00] "get with it, America" [19:28:47] now I wanna know how tall he was.... [19:29:27] google says he was 5′ 6″ [19:29:45] 1.67m* ;) [19:29:47] just checked: his height is not in fact in the article [19:30:04] apergos: well, now you gotta add it [19:30:16] nope. the person who found the info can add it [19:30:21] haha [19:30:26] they have the source and all that good stuff [19:30:48] im busy moderating IRC ;) [19:30:58] it will wait :-P :-D [19:31:01] Don't forget to add it to Wikidata :) [19:31:18] good point. [19:33:30] * multichill waves [19:33:35] :D [19:33:58] Hey multichill ! [19:34:44] Asaf will be pausing for questions periodically throughout the talk, but if you have questions you can ping me with them and I can start stacking them. [19:39:49] "the vast majority of human kind does not speak a word of english" [19:39:53] OK, pause for questions [19:40:00] have any? [19:40:18] ok, pause over [19:41:01] I think the stream is about 30 seconds behind, so queue your questions up! [19:41:08] Yeah, exactly! [19:41:30] 18 seconds here, I timed it when the IRC channel was being shown behind him [19:47:56] stream crashed [19:47:58] we are fixing it [19:48:01] don't worry [19:48:03] also pausing the talk [19:48:19] Working for me now [19:48:27] OK back on [19:48:49] no disruption AntiComposite ? [19:49:25] rfarrand, No, I got the "Stream has been interrupted - Streamer has stopped streaming" message [19:49:37] back now though ? [19:49:41] Yes [19:49:41] yup [19:54:16] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q48277 needs work >_< [19:58:02] "No vandalising of Wikidata...in this session" [19:59:18] apergos, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P21 is better than it was a few years ago, though. Not comprehensive yet, but better. [19:59:36] yep, I went there first [19:59:48] Ha AntiComposite, good. I am collecting quotes [19:59:57] but sex and gender are different things [20:01:27] "gender identity" and "biological sex" are said to be synonyms there, that's pretty... [20:01:31] out there [20:02:36] anyways it's a side issue to the talk [20:05:22] questions? [20:05:29] Question: are attributes of statements pre-set for the specific value (i.e. "ballistic trauma")? Can they be used also for the label (i.e. your example for towns changing name, so associating a name for a specific time period)? thanks [20:06:53] Any other questions for now? [20:07:05] Sigfrido: helpful answer? [20:07:56] rfarrand: my question was about the additional attributes (i.e. the number of bullets in the Milk example) [20:09:40] question: are the values for instance of already mappable to external ontologies? [20:11:57] thank you very much for the answers [20:12:37] it is a redirect on enwiki [20:13:36] brendan_campbell, grabbing a quick cup of coffee. Can you watch here for 5? :) [20:13:52] rfarrand: Yes, no problem. [20:18:57] back [20:24:12] can you show search for something, like to get a list of things [20:24:28] Question for when we get to a break: How does Wikidata deal with linkrot and other issues stemming from bare URL refs? [20:25:11] mutante & AntiComposite, will ask when there is a break [20:25:38] i want to learn how to search for something by property, like "show me all items with this value of this property" [20:25:41] thanks rfarrand [20:29:04] mutante: there is a gadget for that [20:30:01] mutante: yours will be answered later. AntiComposite he is answering yours now! :) [20:30:09] So if you find one item with that property-value pair, you can just find all similar items [20:30:47] otherwise you go to query.wikidata.org [20:31:00] thank you all, cool [20:31:44] mutante: If you have an example of some property - value I can link to a query about that so that you can see how it is made [20:32:05] Ainali: let's see "property: employer" value "WMF" :) [20:33:50] mutante: http://tinyurl.com/zusrdy2 [20:34:13] In the bottom left you can click Edit to see how it was done [20:35:29] Ainali: thank you, interesting [20:39:50] I assume one can add muliple translators (for the same language)? [20:40:11] apergos: Yes, that is possible [20:40:32] great (someworks are translated many times over the years) [20:40:48] ideally, then specify with edition or date [20:41:51] right [20:42:29] questions? [20:52:46] Question (copy and paste from YouTube Live chat): IF I make an article about the Circus Bulgaria, how should I correctly connect them? [20:54:14] cont., "Because that item will be about the circis itself" [20:58:26] mutante, Re: your earlier question, select the gadget "EasyQuery" in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets - and then click the "..." icon that will appear next to each of the property values in the Q pages. [21:01:00] quiddity: oh! that's very nice. thank you. it works [21:05:57] currently 29 people watching on youtube and 1 on hangouts. [21:08:30] details at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ArticlePlaceholder [21:08:39] questions ? [21:15:51] he must have made this presentation for you quiddity [21:16:54] haha, i love this part [21:18:30] "He has articles in German, English and of course Japaneses (because he is a cat)" [21:20:52] any questions? [21:21:02] clarifications? [21:21:55] ask only for cats with an email address and you get "Mr. White" :p [21:22:10] did you try twitter account? [21:22:27] the chief mouser had one [21:23:11] Question from YouTube: will you talk about export possibilities of [the results of] the query? [21:23:41] brendan_campbell I will ask if Asaf does not see [21:23:57] rfarrand: Thanks [21:26:21] http://tinyurl.com/jqstg2v [21:26:28] (example used) [21:26:48] quiddity: let him show the EasyQuery thing on video :) [21:27:17] rfarrand: need to know how to just do "property exists" without giving a specific value [21:27:52] rfarrand, please suggest he enable the gadget "EasyQuery" [21:28:24] OK [21:28:40] rfarrand, and then reload an entity page, and click the "..." icon next to an example property. [21:31:25] quiddity: I am messing around with this: https://query.wikidata.org/#%23Cats%0ASELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%0AWHERE%0A%7B%0A%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ146%20.%0A%20%20%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP21%20wd%3AQ44148%20.%0A%09SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22en%22%20%7D%0A%7D can you show me what the wdt and wd part if I was looking for cats with twitter accounts? [21:32:00] if you know / have time :) [21:34:37] yes, that is what i was wondering too, how do you do "has twitter" instead of "twitter is a certain value" [21:39:39] rfarrand, mutante http://tinyurl.com/j9rktsj [21:40:29] (but making that columns into links, is beyond me!) [21:40:44] that link is causing an error for me [21:41:21] I wonder if Asef can demonstrate or give at least a short answer "later" of this question: [21:41:21] Is it possible -using wiki data SPARQL- to find specific Wikipedia articles (e.g. featured articles) of a certain language which do not exist in another language? [21:41:21] I know it is possible to find category based results using PetScan-Tool but can we specify that by selecting e.g. featured articles? [21:41:39] Question from YouTube ^ [21:42:02] OK [21:42:36] rfarrand, you might have NoScript extension. If so, just click "Options" (top-right), and "unsafe reload". [21:42:42] if not, try the full link: https://query.wikidata.org/#%23Cats%0APREFIX%20rdf%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F1999%2F02%2F22-rdf-syntax-ns%23%3E%0A%0ASELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%3F_Twitter_username%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ146.%0A%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP2002%20%3F_Twitter_username.%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22en%22.%20%7D%0A%7D [21:43:12] full link worked :) [21:44:21] (oh, it was my first link that was broken, due to my own NoScript interfering. Sorry!) [21:55:02] Any final questions before we end? [21:55:45] Question: which advantages and disadvantages is it to create an item, before, as an example the article is done in Enwiki?? [21:55:51] (from YouTube) [22:08:22] Thank you abartov, that was really useful and interesting. :) [22:09:06] quiddity: pshaw, you've heard me give a version of this before, and you know this anyway. :) [22:10:41] abartov, true, but I did learn about userpage babel boxes determining the first shown languages! Plus spent some time wrestling with wikidataquery for the "cat's with twitter accounts" question above. ;) [22:11:47] quiddity: heh. that's right, focus on the Big Questions! [22:12:17] link to slides? [22:12:23] I didn't see that around somewhere [22:13:05] Ainali: thanks for the EasyQuery gadget! [22:13:29] apergos, not up yet. Probably will be linked in the followup email, that usually gets sent once recordings are available. [22:13:30] apergos: yeah, I was tweaking them till the last minute so they're not on Commons yet. I'll upload in a minute. [22:13:36] ah ok [22:13:45] just poke me when they're around, no rush