[16:49:14] does Community Resources have a channel? [16:50:02] abartov? [16:54:21] Platonides: no. My team does not use IRC, unfortunately. [16:54:44] hmm [16:54:46] It can be reached at communityresources@wikimedia.org [16:55:27] at least I was able to find one of you :P [16:57:30] maybe you are able to answer :P [16:57:32] I got an Inspire banner saying that "Less 50% of users in your country know Wikipedia..." [16:57:51] a) Is this supposed to be an hypothetical question? [16:57:58] b) How is this message translation named? [17:06:19] Platonides: Sup! [17:06:35] Platonides: It's not my poject but I built the banner [17:06:52] Platonides: I have "banner" as an alert btw :P [17:08:01] :) [17:08:24] so, where is it located? [17:09:16] Platonides: shit you reminded me. [17:09:32] Platonides: apologies there should have been a translation link in there for community members [17:09:40] Let me grab the link [17:09:44] there usually is one [17:09:50] I tried to look around a bit [17:10:04] but not finding it, well, decided to poke someone involved on this [17:10:25] Platonides: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=Centralnotice-tgroup-Inspire_New_Readers&task=view [17:14:02] I edited it [17:14:14] I don't see the original, though [17:14:44] ah, on mediawiki ns [17:15:46] Platonides: Cool, I've published the change you made :) [17:16:51] I am assuming it is intended to be hypothetical, and you are not filtering to see if really less that 50% know about WP based on geolocation [17:17:12] also, I would consider changing Wp15_earth3.png [17:17:34] a man with some green lines... [17:17:46] I first thought "is he stinking?" :) [17:17:58] filled countries would help imho [17:22:56] Platonides: I made the background so will look at filling those. [17:23:28] Platonides: So I am actually targetting specific countries we believe have an audience penetration of less than 50% [17:27:04] hmm [17:27:11] this seems odd [17:27:25] are the numbers anywhere? [17:31:04] according to alexa, Wikipedia is the #9 site here [17:32:03] which confirms my suspicion [17:32:38] you should review that audience measures, Seddon [17:39:56] Platonides: Though audience measure is art, you'd be surprised how few countries have more than 50% of internet users utilising wikipedia [17:40:01] banner banner banner [17:40:05] :P [17:40:28] greg-g: |-( [17:40:53] never publicly disclose your alert words :) [17:41:08] greg-g: I'm totally not telling you the others :p [17:42:20] I guess it depens on how we determine "audience penetration" [17:42:35] the banner talks about "knowing about wikipedia" [17:43:08] utilising wikipedia could be mean people accessing wikipedia at least N times/day every X days [17:43:16] Platonides: I would anticipate that we are basing it on third party data. Potentially something like comscore. But I would need to check [17:43:49] I don't know how comscore works [17:44:19] maybe they are measuring accesses to en.wikipedia.org, and not the local ones [17:44:38] plus whatever bias they access methods could have [19:43:24] Platonides: I'm pretty sure the "less than 50% know Wikipedia" comes from country-wide phone surveys that directly ask about awareness. More details here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_Readers/Awareness#Phone_surveys [23:09:58] thanks neilpquinn [23:10:03] I was not aware of thar [23:10:07] *that [23:10:33] Platonides: No problem, it's always nice to see a question that you know the answer to :) [23:10:58] indeed :) [23:11:10] that's why we can always help each other [23:11:24] that data supports my point, though [23:11:30] "Spain has the highest awareness (89%)"