[04:05:39] Did I accidentally get signed up for implementing the RfC? [04:14:56] you shouldn't lick the cookie if you don't want to eat it [04:15:17] ;) [15:15:27] Hi first time here [15:17:36] o/ [15:17:56] welcome [15:17:56] I am looking for the metrics session hosted by wmde [15:18:21] Thanks Vermont [15:19:26] Nattes, can you see this? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_metrics_and_activities_meetings [15:20:27] well that's what I looked at and came here following the IRC participation [15:20:47] :) [15:21:05] I did not get what "log can be downloaded here" menat [15:21:08] meant [15:21:49] ah that will just allow people to access any conversations here in irc at a later point [15:22:31] the youtube link will be what you're after I'd guess. I have the start time in my calendar as 4pm (38 minutes from now) [15:23:02] 4pm GMT [15:35:16] Hi Psychoslave [15:50:41] Hi everyone, and greetings from Norway! I'm excited about listening to a Metrics meeting hosted by WMDE :-) [15:51:15] SF office here. we'll be watching from the office [15:55:14] yay Metrics & Activities: WMDE edition! :) [15:59:19] * K4-713 waves [16:00:30] * Vermont waves [16:00:53] o/ [16:00:56] its working :-) [16:00:57] YouTube link is https://youtu.be/BFzqTxTfq2Y for those who are hunting for it [16:00:57] Hi everyone, Hanna_P_WMDE and me will note your questions down and ask them for you at the end of ALL presentations [16:01:13] the sound is a little off [16:01:16] Mic level is clipping [16:01:19] audio is distorted... [16:01:54] We forgot to send them Brendan ;) [16:01:59] hehe [16:02:00] :) [16:02:02] no audio [16:02:13] we've notified the person for the audio [16:02:13] lol - he's in the office making sure we have a good viewing experience [16:02:30] *the SF office [16:02:35] coudl you please fix the audio? rather bad quality :( [16:02:44] Brendan as a Service. Add that to the strategic plan [16:03:23] much better! [16:03:30] okay :) [16:03:45] maybe just hold the mic a little further away? [16:03:45] sounds the same on our end [16:03:56] +1. no change :( [16:04:39] is eveyrone looking at the stream (the ones who have bad audio?) [16:04:45] hardly audible yes :( [16:04:46] yes! [16:04:48] on youtube or elsewhere? [16:04:52] youtube [16:05:01] It's okay on youtube. I mean, I can understand people. [16:05:02] delphine: youtube for me. clipping badly [16:05:04] youtube [16:05:06] Yes, we're watching the stream [16:05:31] the audio is less choppy - but now quiet [16:05:35] is it just the audio or also the video? [16:05:45] the video seems okay [16:05:47] just the audio [16:06:00] audio is poor [16:06:10] I think the mic is bad, when the speaker holds too close [16:06:41] yes, i think so as well [16:06:49] just hold the mic further away [16:06:53] Is there a difference from one speaker to another or all the same (is the position of the microphone doing any change)? [16:07:08] yes it sometimes gets better when the mic is further away from the lips [16:07:25] okay [16:11:09] The wikibox is real... [16:11:55] i let the speakers know and we're tweaking the audio on the technical end. let's hope that helps [16:12:16] lncabell: thank you!! [16:12:37] Incabell rather [16:16:50] did our tweaking do any good on the sound? [16:17:16] Remote audio is great, not surprising. Tweaking helped a lot; not perfect [16:17:30] hard to say, because delphine is presenting now. not sure though [16:17:46] can you let us know once the next speaker is up? [16:17:55] sure thing [16:18:01] thanks! [16:18:15] thanks for troubleshooting! [16:19:04] seems to be the same [16:19:06] Who is taking IRC questions? [16:19:07] Audio not great [16:19:08] :/ [16:19:09] we can understand what is being said, but i believe the mic gain is too high and the audio output on the stream is too low [16:20:12] halfak: IT's Incabell_ and me taking questions [16:20:43] audio is pretty good at my end actually [16:20:57] Hanna_P_WMDE, Question to Delphine. When you talk about "community experience", this ends up being experience with one subset of one of many communities. Do you think that experience with a subset of one community is generalizable to insights into other subsets of other communities? [16:21:07] Thanks Hanna_P_WMDE :) [16:21:11] anyone else with better or still bad audio? [16:21:20] Still not great. On youtube. [16:21:32] thanks halfak. I'll answer this in the Q&A. [16:21:44] <3 delphine :) [16:22:33] halfak: noted! [16:22:46] is the audio any better @halfak [16:23:11] Yes. Sounds pretty good now [16:23:24] great! [16:24:21] I’m missing every other word, I think it’s as he pivots [16:24:32] & interested! [16:24:37] ^^same [16:32:25] is this okay? [16:32:36] I have to crank volume, but it is clear [16:32:50] Not anymore [16:32:51] okay [16:32:53] Not clear [16:32:53] Audio bad again [16:32:56] it's still distorted and quiet, but if we crank the volume up we can understand what is being said [16:33:39] yes, big difference between on site audio and remote audio apparently. Learning curve! ;) [16:34:57] definitely a big learning curve. Still trying to fix it on the run. Thanks for your input and patience [16:38:34] Audio is weird for me again [16:38:39] You're all doing great. :D [16:38:50] thanks [16:38:51] More input: Audio aside, This is generally going extremely well. [16:38:59] * chicocvenancio agrees [16:39:01] that's good to hear :) [16:39:49] thanks again for all your feedback [16:39:53] Would it possibly help if they ditched the external mic altogether and spoke into the laptop mic/headphones? [16:39:53] Cornelius sounds great [16:40:00] Might be the mic Nicole is using [16:40:24] hm, good point. but that was also the one jens used and he didn't sound good, right? [16:40:45] I guess it's now sort of in and out audio-wise [16:40:53] I suspect they’re using the Enigma cipher on audio [16:41:00] he is holding it much further away. that might be it [16:41:13] it has to do with how soft-spoken the presenter is too [16:41:34] the more soft-spoken folks aren't overdriving the mic as hard [16:42:11] the audio needs to be tweaked more then, i assume. the microphone should be able to handle a wide range of voices [16:46:47] are there any more questions to our speakers? [16:47:28] yay, kids in the feed! [16:47:32] :) [16:47:38] i've seen this one before! [16:47:38] lol <3 [16:47:44] how about some questions? [16:47:50] :) [16:47:59] LOL [16:48:01] love the kids Delphine! Are they editing yet? lol [16:48:01] remote life :) [16:48:05] :D [16:48:06] geez this is so stressful :) [16:48:12] not editing yet [16:48:18] but I'm working on it :) [16:48:27] <3 [16:48:45] I definitely have questions about the current state of wikibase installations, too. [16:48:53] But, I can probably follow up later. [16:48:58] and I would have killed my kids on feed, but then thought this might look bad. :/ [16:49:02] alright. i can ask if you'd like [16:49:19] WIKILOVE! [16:49:30] alright, now it looks like we moved on but if there's anything else I might be able to squeeze it in at the end [16:49:40] Interesting that equity and service both = access on survey [16:50:37] EileenH: I had exactly the same remark [16:51:12] we need to do some work on definitions I think ;) [16:51:28] I have some love to share. [16:51:31] Much Wikilove to WMDE for leading on this Metrics experiment :) [16:51:42] yes, thank you WMDE and Incabell [16:52:00] Thanks! <3 We will spread the word [16:52:10] delphine: what can we share? [16:52:10] and thanks Hanna_P_WMDE for handling IRC [16:52:34] I want to share LOTS of love for WM Poland [16:53:58] and all the friends of User:Halibutt [16:55:08] Sharing Wikilove for Wikimedians in Turkey, who are dealing with 9 months under the ban of all Wikipedia sites and still keeping in touch and trying to work to educate their country people about Wikipedia against much misunderstanding. [16:55:14] and LOVE TO THE WIKIMEDIA GERMANS ;) [16:55:30] Danke Danke Danke! [16:55:36] thanks <3 [16:55:48] Yes! This was great! [16:56:39] Thanks for being with us! We're looking forward to the next meeting! [17:14:11] halfak: sorry for the broken question [17:14:17] sorry the broken answer [17:14:25] kids will do that to concentration ;)