[13:11:53] <Krinkle>	 #endmeeting,
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[13:11:53] <wm-labs-meetbot>	 Minutes:        https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2019/wikimedia-office.2019-07-24-21.10.html
[13:11:53] <wm-labs-meetbot>	 Minutes (text): https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2019/wikimedia-office.2019-07-24-21.10.txt
[13:11:53] <wm-labs-meetbot>	 Minutes (wiki): https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2019/wikimedia-office.2019-07-24-21.10.wiki
[13:11:54] <wm-labs-meetbot>	 Log:            https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2019/wikimedia-office.2019-07-24-21.10.log.html
[13:11:57] <Krinkle>	 duesen_: :D
[13:12:07] <Krinkle>	 Such a loyal bot
[17:49:14] <James_F>	 Hey everyone. It's Wikimedia Activities time! Yay.
[17:49:22] <James_F>	 We'll be starting in just over 10 minutes' time.
[17:50:45] <Pine>	 Hi James_F. Are you the IRC spokesperson today?
[17:50:56] <James_F>	 I am, yes.
[17:55:53] <janna_WMF>	 Hello!
[17:56:39] <James_F>	 We'll be starting in a few minutes' time.
[17:57:07] <James_F>	 As normal, I'll be taking your questions and asking them of the presenters at the end of the meeting.
[17:57:24] <James_F>	 If an idea, a though, a concern, or a question occurs, please do ask it here.
[17:57:46] <James_F>	 I will make sure it gets asked, and people in IRC might be able to answer it or refine the question in advance.
[17:59:44] <James_F>	 You can see our agenda at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_monthly_activities_meetings/2019-07
[17:59:55] <James_F>	 Francisco is facilitating this month.
[18:02:46] <janna_WMF>	 Yay, Smithsonian!
[18:10:24] <Pine>	 I have a meta-comment about the meeting. I can understand the audio but the quality could use improvement. Is this something that can be addressed for the next month's Activities Meeting?
[18:11:24] <James_F>	 Pine: Is it low bandwidth? Low quality? Low volume? What would we need to address?
[18:11:30] <marktraceur>	 I suspect that's partly due to everyone dialing in this month, and having a variety of connection quality/home A/V equipment
[18:11:55] <janna_WMF>	 Yeah, Danny's sound is cutting in and out a bit.
[18:11:56] <Pine>	 Quality of microphones may be part of the issue. Agree with Mark.
[18:12:06] <J-Mo>	 almost certainly a function of "remote week"
[18:12:40] <J-Mo>	 we take our San Francisco A/V team for granted until we have to go without them ;)
[18:13:17] <tzatziki>	 yeah this only sounds worse because they're not using real mics here
[18:13:24] <tzatziki>	 just laptop mics or whatever
[18:13:31] <marktraceur>	 Imaginary microphones!
[18:13:33] <marktraceur>	 What a world
[18:13:37] <foks>	 heh
[18:13:39] <James_F>	 Some of us have real mics for A/V stuff. ;-)
[18:13:43] <Pine>	 OK. I think that quality of mics is something to work on for better remote participation.
[18:13:53] <foks>	 yeah not much can be done about that
[18:14:00] <foks>	 unless we want to send every staffer a mic :D
[18:14:09] <James_F>	 We could change remote weeks to not clash with Activities.
[18:14:20] <foks>	 we still have remote presentations
[18:14:40] <James_F>	 Yes, but that would halve the number of people we'd need to issue with good mics.
[18:15:32] <foks>	 "halve" not sure
[18:15:33] <janna_WMF>	 Greg's got a good mic
[18:16:08] <J-Mo>	 hyopothesis: mic quality correlates with % time spent remote
[18:16:17] <foks>	 lol :D
[18:16:21] <foks>	 Greg's office-based
[18:16:22] <James_F>	 Any questions for the presenters?
[18:16:52] <James_F>	 My mic's not bad and I'm in the office on average 6 days a week. :-)
[18:17:10] * J-Mo makes a note to lecture James_F on how probability works :P
[18:17:33] <James_F>	 (But none of you will get a chance to hear me unless you're going to get me to pose a question.)
[18:17:44] <J-Mo>	 ooh incentive
[18:17:52] <James_F>	 J-Mo: So your H0 is that it's negatively correlated? I'm confused. :-)
[18:18:04] <Pine>	 New Wikimedia Research project: quality of staff microphones.
[18:18:06] <foks>	 i think he's saying there are always exceptions
[18:18:19] <J-Mo>	 uh-oh. Reviewer #2 rears his head!
[18:18:32] <foks>	 :P
[18:18:38] <James_F>	 I'm suggesting that n is too small to make population assertions.
[18:19:10] <foks>	 woo! super excited for a less boring office wall. \o/
[18:19:15] <J-Mo>	 I usually turn to nettrom when I need to do a power analysis. I guess that means I need to make him a co-author
[18:21:17] <brendan_campbell>	 Pine: It's a tough problem to solve, for sure. USB mics are generally pretty bad.
[18:21:45] <brendan_campbell>	 webrtc also compresses the audio pretty heavily
[18:22:13] <Pine>	 I think that loaning out high quality mics to planned speakers could be good.
[18:23:07] <brendan_campbell>	 Thought of that...but then the speaker needs to know how to use a professional microphone in the correct acoustic enviornment
[18:23:51] <James_F>	 And we need to spend hundreds of dollars shipping expensive equipment which is subject to customs issues around the world
[18:24:35] <James_F>	 Still no questions?
[18:25:05] <Pine>	 I don't think that super expensive mics would be necessary. Maybe $80 mics.
[18:25:16] <janna_WMF>	 They could buy locally and expense it
[18:30:54] <janna_WMF>	 Love the laser flare eyes in the Thailand Strategy Summit pic!
[18:31:08] * James_F grins.
[18:34:05] <James_F>	 Last call for questions.
[18:35:21] <James_F>	 WikiLove shouts?
[18:36:03] <brendan_campbell>	 Wiki love to the legal team for their work on resolving the turkey block
[18:36:22] <janna_WMF>	 Yes!
[18:37:11] <Pine>	 Wikilove for the English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee members and clerks for their very many hours and lots of effort for the community.
[18:37:59] <janna_WMF>	 Thanks all!