[17:00:40] <thcipriani>	 Hi all, welcome to code deployment office hour, a few of us are here to discuss deployment topics related to https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Covid-19 -- please jump in with any questions or topics you have!
[17:05:06] * greg-g waves
[17:22:40] <James_F>	 Quiet in here
[17:22:59] <greg-g>	 usually
[17:38:45] <thcipriani>	 348 patches from wmf.30..HEAD for all our extensions, FYI
[17:39:07] <thcipriani>	 (64% decrese from last week's largest train ever with 969 patches)
[17:39:39] <liw>	 \o/
[17:40:11] * RhinosF1 has had a patch in this and last week
[17:43:17] <greg-g>	 thcipriani: that makes me feel better, superficially
[17:44:13] <Majavah>	 this seems like a great place to advertise my new tool: https://train-blockers.toolforge.org
[17:44:25] <Majavah>	 it automatically redirects to the current week's train blocker task
[17:44:30] <liw>	 last week (.30) had a ton of automated changes (library upgrades etc), which are low-risk: do we have a way to assess the risk of the changes for a train?
[17:45:05] <RhinosF1>	 Majavah: nice!
[17:45:15] <Majavah>	 RhinosF1: thank you!
[17:46:37] <RhinosF1>	 Majavah: np, just bookmarked it
[17:48:08] <thcipriani>	 Majavah: nice! This is super useful
[17:57:31] <greg-g>	 Majavah: I have been wanting such a thing ;)
[17:57:53] <greg-g>	 liw: not easily
[18:00:48] <Majavah>	 greg-g: I actually made it a couple of weeks back as I found a random phab task about it by twentyafterfour, but just never got around figuring out a place to announce it's existence :P
[18:01:49] <greg-g>	 that task? :)
[18:01:57] <twentyafterfour>	 Majavah: yeah, kudos for that! it's very useful
[18:02:21] <Majavah>	 greg-g: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T207669
[18:02:26] * twentyafterfour returns to being on vacation for the day
[18:02:31] <Majavah>	 sorry for the ping!
[18:02:41] <twentyafterfour>	 Majavah: np thanks for making the tool!
[18:08:33] <RhinosF1>	 Majavah: just a thought, what http response code does it pass. Ideally, should it be the temp redirect one that tells the browser to retry the next Monday
[18:10:28] <RhinosF1>	 That’s a 307 I think
[18:10:34] <Majavah>	 RhinosF1: it's currently just a 302, just checked
[18:12:17] <RhinosF1>	 Majavah: 302 should be fine
[18:12:35] <RhinosF1>	 Not sure how you’d pass something to say check after next monday
[18:12:53] <Majavah>	 just was asking about that
[18:13:40] <Majavah>	 Retry-After seems to be the minimum and this should not be cached in the following week :/
[18:20:18] <AntiComposite>	 I think Retry-After would make the user agent wait before redirecting and not affect caching
[18:24:20] <AntiComposite>	 a 301 Moved Permanently and an Expies header /might/ work, but it might also break everything
[18:26:08] <AntiComposite>	 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#section-13.4