[01:11:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Krinkle: "Generated and deployed job 'parsoid-roundtrip-test-check'." [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95475 (owner: GWicke)
[02:47:18] <spagewmf>	 chrismcmahon: FYI I'm reorganizing  How to run browsertests
[10:37:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Hashar: readme: fix MEDIAWIKI_USER blockstyle [qa/browsertests] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95590
[10:38:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Hashar: [C: 2] readme: fix MEDIAWIKI_USER blockstyle [qa/browsertests] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95590 (owner: Hashar)
[10:39:07] <hashar>	 zeljkof: hello :]
[10:39:17] <zeljkof>	 hashar: morning
[10:39:33] <hashar>	 I finally managed to setup cucumber etc on my laptop :]
[10:39:37] <zeljkof>	 and bonjour
[10:39:43] <zeljkof>	 great
[10:39:44] <hashar>	 the ULS ones are failing for me :-(
[10:39:48] <zeljkof>	 really?
[10:39:54] <zeljkof>	 they are rock solid
[10:40:05] <zeljkof>	 are you running them against wmf labs?
[10:40:10] <zeljkof>	 or your local mediawiki
[10:40:12] <zeljkof>	 ?
[10:40:17] <hashar>	 local wiki
[10:40:30] <zeljkof>	 ULS tests expect a lot of configuration
[10:40:35] <zeljkof>	 you should speak with language team
[10:40:43] <hashar>	 ohhhhh
[10:40:46] <zeljkof>	 I have no clue how to configure local wiki so the tests run
[10:40:50] <hashar>	 configuration of the extension?
[10:40:59] <zeljkof>	 I do not know
[10:41:04] <zeljkof>	 they make all the config
[10:41:08] <zeljkof>	 I just run the tests
[10:41:31] <hashar>	 for the sake of it, my results are http://noc.wikimedia.org/~hashar/uls-browsertests.html
[10:41:49] <zeljkof>	 hashar: well, you do not have firefox installed :)
[10:41:59] <hashar>	 ...
[10:42:07] * hashar  tries again with phantomjs

[10:42:10] <zeljkof>	 Could not find Firefox binary (os=macosx). Make sure Firefox is installed or set the path manually with Selenium::WebDriver::Firefox::Binary.path= (Selenium::WebDriver::Error::WebDriverError)
[10:42:34] <zeljkof>	 did you set browser label environment variable to phantomjs?
[10:42:52] <hashar>	 na forgot about it sorry :(
[10:43:36] <zeljkof>	 by default the tests will run on firefox
[10:43:39] <hashar>	 yeah that looks better now
[10:43:57] <zeljkof>	 language team is probably traveling to india, if you have trouble finding them online
[10:44:13] <hashar>	 I wanted to confirm they work properly on phantomjs
[10:44:18] <hashar>	 using master / master branches
[10:44:25] <zeljkof>	 hashar: I did not test them on phantomjs
[10:44:31] <zeljkof>	 I expect some things to fail
[10:44:32] <hashar>	 I think the Wiki I setup for jenkins test is badly configured
[10:45:16] <zeljkof>	 I did not understand that
[10:45:20] <hashar>	 sorry
[10:45:36] <hashar>	 the jenkins job I created to run ULS browser tests has a bunch of failures
[10:46:03] <hashar>	 they might be due to phantomJS  or because of an issue in the Wiki configuration which is setup to run the tests
[10:46:14] <hashar>	 apparently they are phantomjs related, I got a bunch of issues
[10:46:33] <zeljkof>	 try running the tests with firefox
[10:46:38] <zeljkof>	 they should be stable with it
[10:46:54] <zeljkof>	 and if they fail with phantomjs, we can pair next week to get them running
[10:47:01] <hashar>	 would be nice
[10:47:10] <hashar>	 cause I don't think we can use Firefox in headless mode for Jenkins
[10:47:15] <zeljkof>	 pairing proved to be the best was forward
[10:47:23] <zeljkof>	 hashar: oh yes we can :)
[10:47:27] <hashar>	 timed out after 5 seconds, waiting for {:text=>"Edit source", :tag_name=>"a"} to become present (Watir::Wait::TimeoutError)
[10:47:28] <hashar>	 :D
[10:47:31] <zeljkof>	 I have already done that
[10:47:36] <hashar>	 \O/
[10:47:53] <hashar>	 the reason I wanted phantomjs is that it is very easy to setup
[10:47:56] <zeljkof>	 but we should try getting them up and running with phantomjs anyay
[10:48:09] <hashar>	 just have to apt-get install phantomjs  and then BROWSER_LABEL=phantomjs.
[10:48:12] <zeljkof>	 headless firefox should be trivial to set up on linux
[10:48:35] <hashar>	 might be worth a step by step guide in qa/browsertests.git  in README.md
[10:48:35] <zeljkof>	 http://watirwebdriver.com/headless/
[10:48:53] <zeljkof>	 yes, we do need to work on the docs
[10:48:56] <zeljkof>	 soon...
[10:57:08] <hashar>	 I should enable phantomjs cache as well
[10:57:10] <hashar>	 to speed tests
[10:58:05] <hashar>	 invalid byte sequence in UTF-8 (ArgumentError)
[10:58:05] <hashar>	 \O/
[10:58:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Zfilipin: [C: 2] readme: fix MEDIAWIKI_USER blockstyle [qa/browsertests] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95590 (owner: Hashar)
[10:59:04] <zeljkof>	 hashar: while I have you here...
[10:59:25] <zeljkof>	 I have noticed that different repos have different behaviour at gerrit web site
[10:59:48] <zeljkof>	 some repos force you to submit a change, some do not even offer submit as an option
[11:00:02] <zeljkof>	 some repos have verified radio buttons, some not...
[11:00:09] <zeljkof>	 is that on purpose?
[11:03:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Zfilipin: Markdown requires four spaces to properly format a block of text as code [qa/browsertests] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95591
[11:08:12] <hashar>	 zeljkof: yeah different expectations
[11:08:24] <hashar>	 for example Jenkins is not allowed to merge changes in operations/* repositories
[11:08:46] <hashar>	 some repositories don't let people manually verify +2  which can only be done by Jenkins
[11:08:48] <hashar>	 that is a bit messy
[11:08:56] <zeljkof>	 ops is not on my radar anyway
[11:08:58] <hashar>	 I filled a bug for my phantomjs tests not passing
[11:08:58] <hashar>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57099
[11:09:08] <hashar>	 with some UTF-8 related stacktrace
[11:09:12] <hashar>	 and the HTML report generated
[11:09:21] <hashar>	 I must leave, my daughter is pissing of my wife :/
[11:09:31] <zeljkof>	 hashar: have fun :)
[11:09:39] <hashar>	 yeah
[11:09:40] <hashar>	 :(
[11:09:44] <hashar>	 be back later
[12:09:43] <zeljkof>	 hashar: how do I tag commits in gerrit?
[12:11:12] <zeljkof>	 hashar: and do you know if there is something like "star" or "bookmark" feature in bugzilla?
[12:11:41] <zeljkof>	 adding yourself to cc is probably similar, but I am in way too much bugs in cc, so it is too crowded in cc list :)
[12:18:21] <hashar>	 zeljkof: git tag <Some tag name there> <commit>
[12:18:30] <hashar>	 then:  git push gerrit --tags
[12:18:38] <hashar>	 or if your remote is "origin" :  git push origin --tags
[12:19:08] <hashar>	 you can even sign the tag with gpg
[12:19:22] <zeljkof>	 hashar: thanks
[12:19:30] <zeljkof>	 can I see existing tags in gerrit?
[12:19:35] <hashar>	 to sign it:  git tag -s <tagname> <commit>
[12:19:49] <hashar>	 you can see them in giblit at git.wikimedia.org
[12:19:53] <hashar>	 or just "git tag"
[12:20:48] <zeljkof>	 hashar: hm, git tag returns nothing
[12:20:51] <zeljkof>	 lemme see...
[12:21:04] <zeljkof>	 maybe I have to fetch moar from gerrit
[12:21:26] <zeljkof>	 yes, git fetch origin did the trick
[12:21:31] <hashar>	 and git log --simplify-by-decoration  --oneline --decorate --graph --all
[12:21:33] <zeljkof>	 I usually do just git fetch origin master
[12:21:36] <hashar>	 gives you a nice graph of branches and tags
[12:22:20] <hashar>	 git fetch origin --tags
[12:22:38] <hashar>	 would fetch just the tags, I am pretty sure they are fetched when doing simply  git fetch origin
[12:23:16] <hashar>	 on another subject, I found out an issue with phantomjs, that is related to how the browsers normalize css font-familly
[12:23:30] <hashar>	 the css has font-familly: 'Autonym',sans-serif"
[12:23:55] <hashar>	 phantomjs normalize it by removing the single quotes so it yield:   Autonym, sans-serif
[12:24:03] <hashar>	 whereas firefox yield  'Autonym', sans-serif
[12:24:53] <zeljkof>	 wow
[12:25:02] <zeljkof>	 we have to then fix the test
[12:25:15] <hashar>	 it does:   on(InterlanguagePage).interlang_link_element.style("font-family").should == "'Autonym',sans-serif"
[12:26:01] <hashar>	 no clue what the style() comes from
[12:26:01] <zeljkof>	 hashar: added 0.1.13 tag to the gem
[12:26:01] <zeljkof>	 https://git.wikimedia.org/summary/?r=mediawiki/selenium.git
[12:26:06] <hashar>	 great
[12:26:23] <hashar>	  * [new tag]         0.1.13     -> 0.1.13
[12:26:49] <zeljkof>	 hashar: unrelated, who should I ask to get commit bit to browsertests and mediawiki-selenium repos on github?
[12:27:40] <hashar>	 commit bit?
[12:28:02] <zeljkof>	 so I can for example close issues on github
[12:28:09] <zeljkof>	 like admin
[12:28:11] <hashar>	 oh my
[12:28:16] <zeljkof>	 or whatever github calls it
[12:28:48] <hashar>	 is https://github.com/wikimedia/qa-browsertests replicated by Gerrit ?
[12:28:55] <zeljkof>	 yes
[12:29:11] <zeljkof>	 so when a repo is replicated at github, I have no privileges to do stuff on github
[12:29:22] <zeljkof>	 what I need to do is close github issues, for example
[12:29:34] <hashar>	 or we could disable github issue tracker :D
[12:29:36] <hashar>	 will give you access
[12:29:51] <zeljkof>	 I would leave it there, there is no harm
[12:30:06] <zeljkof>	 but I would like to be able to close stuff, so it does not look abandoned
[12:30:31] <zeljkof>	 the same for https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-selenium
[12:33:09] <hashar>	 I am trying to add you to the github wikimedia team
[12:33:31] <zeljkof>	 this is me
[12:33:32] <zeljkof>	 https://github.com/zeljkofilipin
[12:34:24] <hashar>	 https://github.com/organizations/wikimedia/teams/569423
[12:34:31] <hashar>	 you should now be part of the qa team
[12:35:22] <zeljkof>	 hashar: great! :)
[12:40:51] <hashar>	 and the font normalization is filled as https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57101
[12:41:22] <zeljkof>	 hashar: is there a way to "star" or "bookmark" that bug?
[12:41:31] <hashar>	 Another one that fails is:  Given I am logged in  // When I am on a page with interlanguage links   // Then the Interlanguage area should use Autonym font
[12:41:42] <zeljkof>	 adding myself to cc is not the best way, since I am in cc for a lot of bugs
[12:41:49] <hashar>	 I am not sure which page it is expecting, but it surely does not exist on my wiki
[12:42:07] <hashar>	 zeljkof: you could use a tracking bug
[12:42:15] <hashar>	 and mark all those bugs as being blocked by the tracking bug
[12:42:52] <hashar>	 example: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=50664&hide_resolved=0
[12:43:10] <zeljkof>	 interesting
[12:43:13] <zeljkof>	 let me try
[12:43:37] <zeljkof>	 since the two bugs that you have reported is something that I would like to get fixed in the next pairing session with the language team
[12:44:16] <hashar>	 another way is to add some string in the "Whiteboard" field
[12:44:30] <zeljkof>	 that is even better
[12:44:31] <hashar>	 then you can look for any bugs containing that string there
[12:44:39] <hashar>	 kind of a freeform keyword
[12:44:43] <zeljkof>	 and then create a search that will find them
[12:44:49] <zeljkof>	 will try that
[12:45:56] <hashar>	 example: all bugs mentioning [hardware]  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=DUPLICATE;resolution=---;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr;query_format=advanced;status_whiteboard=%5Bhardware%5D;component=Other;component=Custom%20Builds;component=Future;product=Release%20Engineering
[12:47:30] <zeljkof>	 works https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=pair-programming&sharer_id=16205
[12:53:06] <hashar>	 \O/
[12:56:04] <hashar>	 the rest of the tests, I have no clue what is wrong
[12:56:15] <hashar>	 probably assuming some pages already exist
[12:56:33] <zeljkof>	 yes
[12:56:43] <zeljkof>	 they are not the best of the tests that we have
[12:56:51] <zeljkof>	 when do you have the time to pair next week?
[12:56:56] <zeljkof>	 monday 10am?
[12:58:27] <hashar>	 I am not sure whether it is good idea for me to invest time figuring out how the browser tests work :D
[12:58:47] <hashar>	 gotta play with the VisualEditor ones
[13:06:54] <hashar>	 of course it requires parsoid grmblbl
[13:10:22] <zeljkof>	 hashar: we do not have to go into detail :)
[13:10:37] <zeljkof>	 we can just try fixing stuff in general, and I can take care of details
[13:11:27] <hashar>	 maybe it should be done with i18n team ?
[13:11:58] <zeljkof>	 hashar: I am already pairing with them four times a week, 2 hours each session
[13:12:13] <zeljkof>	 but they are in india next week, so pairings are off until they return
[13:23:15] <hashar>	 ahhh
[13:23:25] <hashar>	 I got VisualEditor and Parsoid running on my box!!
[13:23:58] <hashar>	 zeljkof: any clue how I can lower the default 5 seconds timeout ?
[13:24:17] <zeljkof>	 where?
[13:24:26] <hashar>	       | Numbering | ##        |      timed out after 5 seconds, waiting for {:title=>/Edit this page with VisualEditor/, :tag_name=>"a"} to become present (Watir::Wait::TimeoutError)
[13:24:54] <zeljkof>	 I am in the middle of something else, it is easy to fix, but you have to dig into ruby code
[13:25:04] <zeljkof>	 I think we should pair on this next week :)
[13:25:24] <hashar>	 yeah probably
[13:25:43] <hashar>	 and the tests are assuming a bunch of expectations which aren't true :/
[13:25:52] <hashar>	 like assuming a "Selenium user" user :D
[13:28:58] <zeljkof>	 yes
[13:29:04] <zeljkof>	 we still have a long way to go
[13:30:09] <hashar>	 one more for VisualEditor https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57103
[13:30:10] <hashar>	 browsertests assume User:Selenium_user exist
[13:30:14] <hashar>	 i will attempt to fix it myself :]
[13:30:27] <zeljkof>	 good luck :)
[13:36:15] <hashar>	 crazy daughter is awake grmblbl
[13:36:59] <hashar>	 I give up anyway
[13:37:13] <hashar>	 the tests are making too many assumptions
[13:39:41] <hashar>	 filled bugs :D
[13:39:50] <zeljkof>	 that is good :)
[13:39:56] <zeljkof>	 we need moar bugs :)
[13:40:00] <hashar>	 that is going to take a looong time
[14:19:15] <addshore>	 hashar: is @bug actually recognised by doxygen?
[14:20:08] <hashar>	 no clue
[14:21:13] <addshore>	 okay :D
[14:43:02] <hashar>	 I am off for the rest of the day  might show up later in the evening.
[15:25:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Jeroen De Dauw: Remove Wikibase Query and QueryEngine [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95616
[15:31:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Addshore: [C: -1] "Needs to be changed in zuul-config first as far as I know." [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95616 (owner: Jeroen De Dauw)
[15:33:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Jeroen De Dauw: Remove Wikibase Query and QueryEngine [integration/zuul-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95617
[15:33:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Jeroen De Dauw: "https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95617" [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95616 (owner: Jeroen De Dauw)
[15:33:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (Abandoned) Jeroen De Dauw: Do not run tests for Wikibase Query and QueryEngine [integration/zuul-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93428 (owner: Jeroen De Dauw)
[15:35:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (Abandoned) Jeroen De Dauw: Remove Wikibase Query and QueryEngine [integration/zuul-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95617 (owner: Jeroen De Dauw)
[15:35:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (Restored) Jeroen De Dauw: Do not run tests for Wikibase Query and QueryEngine [integration/zuul-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93428 (owner: Jeroen De Dauw)
[15:36:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Jeroen De Dauw: "Hashar, can you have a look at this? This blocks development." [integration/zuul-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93428 (owner: Jeroen De Dauw)
[16:36:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Jhall: [C: 1 V: 1] Markdown requires four spaces to properly format a block of text as code [qa/browsertests] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95591 (owner: Zfilipin)
[16:37:30] <anjana>	 Hi, I'm trying to upload a pic(.jpg) on beta. How do i do it?
[16:39:46] <JeffHall>	 Anjana, I ran into the same issue - see this e-mail thread on the QA list:
[16:39:48] <JeffHall>	 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/qa/2013-November/000675.html
[16:40:16] <JeffHall>	 You should be able to find the upload wizard on the Commons site:
[16:40:18] <JeffHall>	 http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard
[16:40:34] <anjana>	 I did that. How do i export the variable? :)
[16:41:19] <JeffHall>	 What platform are you using (Mac, Linux, Windows)?
[16:42:15] <anjana>	 win
[16:42:59] <JeffHall>	 I don't use Windows much, but I believe you'll need to export the environment variable value from a DOS (command) prompt
[16:43:06] <JeffHall>	 I believe the syntax is:
[16:43:41] <JeffHall>	 set MEDIAWIKI_URL=<whatever value you want to set>
[16:44:13] <JeffHall>	 I'm not a Windows expert, so you might want to do a Google search on the best way to set environment variables for your version of Windows
[16:44:20] <anjana>	 Thanks Jeff. Shall try it
[19:05:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Addshore: Add job for SideBarMenu [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95653
[19:09:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Addshore: Add zuul trigger for SideBarMenu [integration/zuul-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95654
[19:17:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Addshore: "It appears tests will / should fail unless https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/95655/ is merged" [integration/zuul-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95654 (owner: Addshore)
[20:10:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Addshore: Remove duplicate AnitSpoof extension entry [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95660
[21:10:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Zfilipin: "Jeff, for future reference, you should never change values in "Verified" section when reviewing a commit. I am not sure why the section is" [qa/browsertests] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95591 (owner: Zfilipin)
[21:14:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Jhall: Markdown requires four spaces to properly format a block of text as code [qa/browsertests] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95591 (owner: Zfilipin)
[21:23:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS2) Hashar: Remove duplicate AnitSpoof extension entry [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95660 (owner: Addshore)
[21:24:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Hashar: [C: 2] Remove duplicate AntiSpoof extension entry [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95660 (owner: Addshore)
[21:24:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: Remove duplicate AntiSpoof extension entry [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95660 (owner: Addshore)
[21:27:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS2) Hashar: Add job for SideBarMenu [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95653 (owner: Addshore)
[21:27:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Hashar: [C: 2] Add job for SideBarMenu [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95653 (owner: Addshore)
[21:27:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: Add job for SideBarMenu [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95653 (owner: Addshore)
[21:29:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Hashar: "Jobs deployed:" [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95653 (owner: Addshore)
[21:32:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Hashar: "I guess we want to wait for "upstream" to merge the changes you submitted." [integration/zuul-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95654 (owner: Addshore)
[21:52:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS2) Jeroen De Dauw: Remove Wikibase Query and QueryEngine [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95616
[21:52:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS2) Jeroen De Dauw: Do not run tests for Wikibase Query and QueryEngine [integration/zuul-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93428
[21:53:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS3) Jeroen De Dauw: Remove Wikibase Query and QueryEngine [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95616
[22:09:20] <anjana>	 I am tru=ying to upload a picture (.jpg) to beta. I don't see an icon or an option in the pull-down menu for this. I also tried uploading the picture to commons and then tried accessing it from beta. no luck. Can anyone help, pls?
[22:10:04] <anjana>	 I have also set the MEDIAWIKI_URL env variable.
[22:27:09] <JeffHall>	 Anjana, I'm seeing the same problem with images added via commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org not being available for insertion in articles on en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org
[22:27:47] <JeffHall>	 Although it seems to work fine in production, so I think it might be an environmental issue with the beta.wmflabs test environment
[22:29:18] <JeffHall>	 Some key folks are out of the office today, but I can try to learn more next week to see if this is a bug or just an environmental issue
[22:53:44] <anjana>	 jeff, so is this a reported bug on beta?
[22:57:45] <spagewmf>	 anana, I don't think so, I just entered https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57117
[22:58:31] <anjana>	 Ok. Thanks!
[22:59:20] <spagewmf>	 that's just one piece of it, Special:UploadWizard is messed up on commons-beta, and I'm not sure whether en-beta supports accessing commons or commons-beta as JeffHall  reports
[23:11:09] <anjana>	 Is there an option to upload images directly on beta?
[23:13:36] <spagewmf>	 d'oh, en-beta is configured so commons: links to production commons.
[23:14:00] <spagewmf>	 but I think [[File:A nice picture.jpg]] will locate a file on commons-beta
[23:17:10] <spagewmf>	 anjana you can upload at http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:Upload or http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard
[23:17:38] <spagewmf>	 or http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:Upload
[23:18:07] <anjana>	 Thanks spage. Shall try it.
[23:38:25] <anjana>	 page, [[File:A nice picture.jpg]] din't work. I was able to upload a image via http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:Upload. Now, my question is: I am on my homepage on beta which has a lot of text, I want to insert a image or a thumbnail.
[23:38:48] <anjana>	 How do i do it?
[23:40:57] <anjana>	 what i mean is , how do i embed a image or a thumbnail amidst the text on the page.
[23:41:06] <spagewmf>	 JeffHall, anjana File:Foo.jpg links find images from commons-beta OK for me, see  http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/User:Spage_beta#commons-beta_link
[23:42:33] <spagewmf>	 anjana, just [[File:Some name.jpg]], see http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=User:Spage_beta&action=edit
[23:43:50] <spagewmf>	 as for thumbnailing and captions, the (somewhat WTF? ☺) syntax is explained at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images
[23:47:51] <spagewmf>	 anjana, are you User:Ranganu ? I was giving the wikitext syntax. It looks like you used VisualEditor to enter [[File:A nice picture.jpg]], so http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=User:Ranganu&action=edit shows VE put this in <nowiki> tag so that it *wouldn't* work.
[23:48:13] <anjana>	 I was just about to tell you that :)
[23:49:26] <anjana>	 yes I am user:ranganu
[23:49:38] <anjana>	 and i am using VE
[23:50:29] <spagewmf>	 you can insert images with VisualEditor using toolbar More > Media , though it seems there are all kinds of bugs trying to locate [[A nice picture]]. Have fun filing them
[23:50:35] <spagewmf>	 :)
[23:51:23] <anjana>	 Thanks for your time, page....
[23:51:45] <spagewmf>	 call me 'S', it really is my name.  Are you working for WMF?
[23:53:05] <spagewmf>	 that's the problem with VisualEditor, we have 11 years of history explaining how to do things in wikitext, it'll all have to be prefaced with "ARE YOU USING VisualEditor?"
[23:53:15] <anjana>	 What doe 'S' stand for? Nope, I just trying to contribute to WMF as a volunteer...
[23:55:15] <anjana>	 I understand...I am very new here. don't know where to start...And obviously, I am kind of getting frustrated trying to figure out things...There is a ton of info here and don't know where to look :). Will keep trying.
[23:57:45] <spagewmf>	 S is my name, honest. I'm sorry I added to your frustration, my fault.  Bugs: media browser doesn't filter sensibly, insert picture, clicking near picture and typing inserts in wrong location...