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[08:57:06] <mayankmadan>	 Hi zeljkof
[08:57:16] <zeljkof>	 mayankmadan: hi
[08:58:31] <mayankmadan>	 Is there any link about writing tests that i can read(im currently on my way to psychiatrist)
[08:59:07] <zeljkof>	 sure
[08:59:25] <zeljkof>	 I will add the link to the bug reports
[08:59:26] <zeljkof>	 bug report
[08:59:26] <zeljkof>	 and paste them here
[09:00:12] <mayankmadan>	 Great
[09:00:17] <zeljkof>	 can you watch videos?
[09:00:46] <mayankmadan>	 Nope. Don't have enough mobile data available
[09:01:00] <zeljkof>	 ok, I will post links to text then
[09:01:51] <mayankmadan>	 But do paste the links to the videos in the bug report
[09:01:58] <zeljkof>	 will do
[09:06:12] <zeljkof>	 ok, this is text http://filipin.eu/how-mediawiki-software-that-runs-wikipedia-is-tested/
[09:06:39] <zeljkof>	 and I will publish a new version of that blog post probably today
[11:32:59] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof: are you available for pair programming Friday?
[11:33:20] <zeljkof>	 mayankmadan: of course! :)
[11:33:35] <zeljkof>	 when would be a good time for you to pair?
[11:34:15] <zeljkof>	 I am free 8am-4pm UTC
[11:35:06] <zeljkof>	 that is 1:30pm-9:30pm your time, if I got it right
[11:35:49] <mayankmadan>	 How about tomorrow?
[11:36:43] <zeljkof>	 I was talking about tomorrow :)
[11:36:44] <zeljkof>	 but I am free the same hours today
[11:36:44] <zeljkof>	 americans are on holiday today and tomorrow, so it is pretty quiet
[11:38:53] <mayankmadan>	 Great
[11:39:26] <zeljkof>	 I am doing backups and stuff that I never have the time to do
[11:39:39] <zeljkof>	 let me know when would be a good time for you to pair
[11:39:49] <zeljkof>	 we can pair both today and tomorrow
[11:40:00] <zeljkof>	 this task is far more complicated than the previous one
[12:08:22] <mayankmadan>	 ho zeljkof
[12:08:24] <mayankmadan>	 *hi
[12:08:29] <mayankmadan>	 im back home
[12:08:40] <zeljkof>	 hi mayankmadan
[12:09:31] <mayankmadan>	 lets get started on tests
[12:10:16] <zeljkof>	 mayankmadan: do you have any questions?
[12:10:41] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, i have no idea how to get started
[12:10:44] <mayankmadan>	 :)
[12:10:47] <zeljkof>	 :)
[12:11:00] <zeljkof>	 did you read the articles that I have linked?
[12:11:05] <zeljkof>	 and watched the videos?
[12:13:26] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, i have to write scripts for testing right?
[12:13:35] <zeljkof>	 mayankmadan: yes
[12:13:48] <zeljkof>	 the code that you have been working on in the last task is the test code
[12:15:12] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, there is no link to the video
[12:15:29] <zeljkof>	 mayankmadan: the articles have embedded videos
[12:15:33] <zeljkof>	 can you see them?
[12:23:45] <mayankmadan>	 can you help me get started?
[12:24:26] <zeljkof>	 sure
[12:24:30] <zeljkof>	 that is what pairing is for :)
[12:24:36] <zeljkof>	 would you like to pair now?
[12:25:57] <mayankmadan>	 i cant do it now :(  my internet connection is really slow right now
[12:26:15] <zeljkof>	 mayankmadan: we can pair over irc and hangout
[12:26:16] <mayankmadan>	 i have lodged a complaint.
[12:26:33] <zeljkof>	 over irc and etherpad, I wanted to say
[12:28:35] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, i wanted to pair when i have understood writing tests so that i would also be comfortable doing it over hangouts
[12:29:07] <zeljkof>	 mayankmadan: pairing is nothing else but two people working on the same problem together
[12:29:27] <zeljkof>	 and usually at least one of them knows what to do
[12:29:35] <zeljkof>	 so, if you need, help, we can pair
[12:29:39] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, sure
[12:29:50] <mayankmadan>	 then
[12:29:50] <zeljkof>	 if you would like to research first, that is fine
[12:31:08] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, i want your help to get started right now :) if that means pairing then thats what we are going to do :)
[12:31:24] <zeljkof>	 :)
[12:31:36] <zeljkof>	 pairing just means two people working together
[12:31:47] <mayankmadan>	 hmm
[12:31:49] <zeljkof>	 I need 5-10 minutes to finish backup
[12:32:02] <zeljkof>	 did you read the articles linked from the bug?
[12:32:24] <mayankmadan>	 i was currently watching the video
[12:32:36] <zeljkof>	 mayankmadan: great, that is a good first step
[12:32:40] <zeljkof>	 read the articles and watch the video
[12:32:49] <zeljkof>	 I would repeat a lot of stuff from there
[12:32:55] <zeljkof>	 when you are done, let me know
[12:33:01] <zeljkof>	 I will be around for a few more hours
[12:38:24] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, i was trying to run the script in irb from here http://filipin.eu/how-mediawiki-software-that-runs-wikipedia-is-tested/
[12:38:39] <mayankmadan>	 but i cant require watir-webdriver
[12:39:05] <zeljkof>	 mayankmadan: can you paste the terminal output to etherpad?
[12:39:09] <zeljkof>	 http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mayankmadan
[12:40:28] <mayankmadan>	 done
[12:40:30] <zeljkof>	 mayankmadan: you did not install everything needed :)
[12:40:33] <mayankmadan>	 i mean pasted it
[12:40:35] <zeljkof>	 let me find the link
[12:40:55] <zeljkof>	 well, actually, the page that you have created a few days ago says what you need to do to get started
[12:41:14] <zeljkof>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Browser_testing/setup_instructions
[12:41:21] <mayankmadan>	 :)
[12:41:22] <zeljkof>	 did you follow the instructions here?
[12:41:29] <zeljkof>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Browser_testing/setup_instructions#Ruby_on_Linux
[12:42:11] <zeljkof>	 mayankmadan: please read the entire page and do as it says
[12:42:17] <zeljkof>	 if anything is unclear, let me know
[12:42:34] <zeljkof>	 if you see that something is out of date, also let me know, or even better, fix it
[12:42:59] <zeljkof>	 mayankmadan: when ever you get stuck, and you have an error message, just paste it to the pad
[12:43:03] <zeljkof>	 and ping me here
[12:43:07] <mayankmadan>	 ok
[13:00:41] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, i tried that on irb and it worked
[13:00:51] <zeljkof>	 yeah! :)
[13:04:04] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, what do i do now?
[13:04:21] <zeljkof>	 what have you done so far?
[13:08:31] <mayankmadan>	 nothing. just tested with the script on the blog
[13:08:43] <mayankmadan>	 i dont know where to start
[13:08:56] <mayankmadan>	 on irb
[13:09:04] <mayankmadan>	 havent tried cucumber
[13:09:08] <zeljkof>	 that is something
[13:09:14] <zeljkof>	 well, try cucumber :)
[13:09:18] <zeljkof>	 do you know how to try it?
[13:10:10] <mayankmadan>	 nope. i think you'll have to teach me from scratch if its ok with you
[13:10:32] <zeljkof>	 sure, give me a few more minutes to finish backup
[13:10:35] <zeljkof>	 and read this in the meantime
[13:11:24] <zeljkof>	 no, wait
[13:11:41] <zeljkof>	 which articles from my blog post did you read?
[13:11:50] <zeljkof>	 and which videos have you watched?
[13:11:52] <mayankmadan>	 http://filipin.eu/how-mediawiki-software-that-runs-wikipedia-is-tested/
[13:12:06] <zeljkof>	 did you read/watch something else?
[13:15:55] <mayankmadan>	 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp75Aq5wArE
[13:16:20] <zeljkof>	 ok, great
[13:16:26] <zeljkof>	 did you watch any of the workshops?
[13:16:37] <zeljkof>	 because in the workshops we cover how to create the first test
[13:16:48] <mayankmadan>	 no
[13:16:54] <mayankmadan>	 will do right now
[13:16:57] <zeljkof>	 please do
[13:25:31] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, but first, please explain what exactly is the task?
[13:26:00] <zeljkof>	 the task is to create a few tests for exporting articles to pdf
[13:26:07] <zeljkof>	 did't the bug make it clear?
[13:48:12] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, what exactly is cucumber and how does it understand when you type "When I am at random page" ?
[13:48:35] <zeljkof>	 mayankmadan: did you watch the workshop?
[13:48:47] <mayankmadan>	 i am currently watching it
[13:49:00] <zeljkof>	 it will be clear to you by the end of it
[13:49:04] <zeljkof>	 if not, ask
[13:49:10] <mayankmadan>	 okay
[13:54:51] <mayankmadan>	 which ide do you use?
[13:55:24] <zeljkof>	 http://www.jetbrains.com/ruby/
[13:55:29] <zeljkof>	 they have 30 day trial
[13:55:54] <zeljkof>	 and if work on open source (and this is open source) you can get a free open source license
[14:02:00] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, did you get an open source license?
[14:02:09] <zeljkof>	 mayankmadan: yes
[14:03:31] <GEOFBOT>	 good morning everyone
[14:03:31] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, does the feature file look for steps defined in step_definitions folder in the file with the same name?
[14:03:42] <GEOFBOT>	 (or good ______ depending on your time zone)
[14:04:15] <zeljkof>	 GEOFBOT: good afternoon :)
[14:04:48] <zeljkof>	 mayankmadan: no, feature file looks for steps in all files in step_definitions folder
[14:06:08] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, so, how do you know which step is defined where?
[14:07:44] <zeljkof>	 the convention is to put steps from for example pdf.feature to pfs_steps.rb file
[14:07:49] <zeljkof>	 but they can be anywhere
[14:07:53] <zeljkof>	 in the folder
[14:11:11] <zeljkof>	 and rubymine (and cucumber) know what is defined where
[14:12:23] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, what do i fill in project name in the form(open source license form)
[14:12:27] <mayankmadan>	 wikimedia?
[14:12:32] <zeljkof>	 mayankmadan: no
[14:12:41] <mayankmadan>	 then?
[14:12:43] <zeljkof>	 just download the IDE and use 30 day trial
[14:12:49] <mayankmadan>	 ok
[14:13:01] <zeljkof>	 after 30 days, if you are still working with us I will send you the license
[14:13:11] <mayankmadan>	 okay great :)
[14:13:22] <zeljkof>	 no problem, that is how it works
[14:34:21] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, what does (.+) means ?
[14:34:32] <zeljkof>	 it is regular expression
[14:34:47] <zeljkof>	 it extracts text to variable, in this case
[14:35:45] <mayankmadan>	 while watching the video i think that i now understand what i was seeing in the last task
[14:35:55] <zeljkof>	 yeah! :)
[14:36:03] <zeljkof>	 do you know how to write a simple test?
[14:36:17] <zeljkof>	 for example, go to a page and click a link
[14:36:45] <mayankmadan>	 wait
[14:37:01] <mayankmadan>	 what does this mean at the starting of the file
[14:37:03] <mayankmadan>	 @
[14:37:14] <zeljkof>	 that is cucumber tag
[14:37:18] <zeljkof>	 you can ignore them for now
[14:37:20] <mayankmadan>	 i am 40 mins into the video and you havent explained it yet
[14:37:25] <mayankmadan>	 ok
[14:38:37] <mayankmadan>	 in wikilove.feature it says "When I am logged in" but i dont see definition for "I am  logged in" in step_definitions
[14:45:18] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, ^
[14:45:42] <zeljkof>	 let me see
[14:48:07] <zeljkof>	 here it is: https://github.com/wikimedia/qa-browsertests/blob/43781c555086c95cef2e1e31aa059385f614bbd5/features/step_definitions/upload_wizard_steps.rb#L12
[14:50:22] <mayankmadan>	 how did you find it?
[14:50:33] <zeljkof>	 I have used github search :)
[14:51:05] <mayankmadan>	 github search?
[14:51:18] <zeljkof>	 I have opened http://github.com/wikimedia/qa-browsertests
[14:51:34] <zeljkof>	 and typed the string into the search box at the top of the page
[14:51:47] <zeljkof>	 (I do not have IDE open, I am doing something else)
[14:51:56] <zeljkof>	 do you have rubymine open?
[14:52:08] <zeljkof>	 if you do a search from rubymine you should find it
[14:53:29] <mayankmadan>	 rubymine is still downloading(its 148mb)
[14:53:51] <mayankmadan>	 cant i run a test if firefox is already open?
[14:53:52] <zeljkof>	 and it takes a few mintues to boot, that is why I have used github search :)
[14:54:00] <zeljkof>	 you can
[14:54:14] <zeljkof>	 selenium creates a fresh firefox profile for every test run
[14:57:11] <mayankmadan>	 writing tests is really interesting :)
[14:58:01] <zeljkof>	 mayankmadan: it is! :)
[14:58:05] <zeljkof>	 that is why I like it
[15:13:30] <mayankmadan>	 sorry i disconnected
[15:13:44] <mayankmadan>	 i didnt receive any of your messages
[15:28:39] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, i cannot execute tests
[15:28:48] <mayankmadan>	 im trying to execute wikilove.feature
[15:28:56] <mayankmadan>	 it was fine sometime ago
[15:29:03] <zeljkof>	 mayankmadan: please post output to the pad
[15:29:09] <mayankmadan>	 there is no output
[15:29:22] <zeljkof>	 what is the problem?
[15:29:25] <mayankmadan>	 wait there is
[15:29:28] <zeljkof>	 what did you do?
[15:29:42] <mayankmadan>	 i tried to export the variables MEDIAWIKI_USER and password
[15:30:27] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, posted on etherpad
[15:30:29] <zeljkof>	 can you post more output?
[15:30:37] <zeljkof>	 from where you are setting env variables
[15:30:43] <zeljkof>	 and how you are executing tests
[15:31:37] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, posted
[15:31:55] <zeljkof>	 what environment variables did you set?
[15:32:03] <zeljkof>	 can you post that to the pad too?
[15:32:41] <mayankmadan>	 i just used export MEDIAWIKI_USER
[15:32:41] <mayankmadan>	 and
[15:32:48] <mayankmadan>	 export MEDIAWIKI_PASSWORD
[15:32:56] <mayankmadan>	 with their appropriate values
[15:33:00] <zeljkof>	 ok
[15:33:12] <zeljkof>	 try this:
[15:33:51] <zeljkof>	 export BROWSER_LABEL=firefox
[15:33:58] <zeljkof>	 and try running the tests again
[15:34:56] <mayankmadan>	 brb in about 5 mins
[15:34:58] <mayankmadan>	 or 15
[15:35:07] <zeljkof>	 mayankmadan: I will also go to lunch soon
[16:02:48] <mayankmadan>	 back
[16:06:31] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, latest error posted
[16:08:51] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, which is same as previous
[16:12:15] <mayankmadan>	 is there a way to reset the changes i did with the environment variables
[16:13:54] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, ping me when you are back
[16:30:20] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, nevermind with the error, just restarted the terminal and everything seems to work fine. but do ping me when you are back
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