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[07:13:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Siebrand: Set up jobs for ContentTranslation repo [integration/zuul-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/105941 
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[11:11:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hashar: [C: 032] Set up jobs for ContentTranslation repo [integration/zuul-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/105941 (owner: 10Siebrand)
[11:11:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Set up jobs for ContentTranslation repo [integration/zuul-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/105941 (owner: 10Siebrand)
[11:12:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hashar: "deployed" [integration/zuul-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/105941 (owner: 10Siebrand)
[11:21:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Siebrand: "Thanks" [integration/zuul-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/105941 (owner: 10Siebrand)
[11:22:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Hashar: Zuul status page: support for progress bar [integration/docroot] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/105967 
[11:23:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hashar: [C: 032] "had to fix up styling a bit, renamed change_progress CSS class to zuul-change-progress." [integration/docroot] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/105967 (owner: 10Hashar)
[11:23:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Zuul status page: support for progress bar [integration/docroot] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/105967 (owner: 10Hashar)
[11:29:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hashar: "recheck" [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106116 (owner: 10Hashar)
[12:44:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hashar: "> Antoine, how is fatals.log archived? Should this script also check the archive directory?" [qa/browsertests] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/105715 (owner: 10Cmcmahon)
[14:11:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: Added ContentTranslation to the list of repositories with Selenium tests [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106247 
[14:14:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Zfilipin: Added ContentTranslation to the list of repositories with Selenium tests [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106247 
[15:09:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: Added --backtrace to cucumber [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106260 
[15:10:43] <mayankmadan>	 hi zeljkof 
[15:10:53] <zeljkof>	 hi mayankmadan
[15:17:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: Deleted unused "branch" option [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106264 
[15:31:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: Added build schedule option for Jenkins builds [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106266 
[15:39:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Cmcmahon: [C: 032] "more information from builds" [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106260 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[15:42:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Cmcmahon: [C: 032] "no need for branch" [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106264 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[15:43:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Cmcmahon: [C: 032] "allow different schedules for different builds" [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106266 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[16:06:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hashar: [C: 032] "all jobs refreshed!" [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106116 (owner: 10Hashar)
[16:07:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: point git://integration.wm.o to zuul.eqiad.wmnet [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106116 (owner: 10Hashar)
[16:07:40] <mayankmadan>	 yurik, hi, which preferences page is being talked about here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero/Test_cases
[16:15:03] <mayankmadan>	 aarcos, i dont understand your new comments in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/103596/
[16:15:29] <mayankmadan>	 aarcos, i have avoided the duplication by defining a new function
[16:17:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Nikerabbit: [C: 032] Added ContentTranslation to the list of repositories with Selenium tests [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106247 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[16:17:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Added ContentTranslation to the list of repositories with Selenium tests [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106247 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[16:23:33] <Leena>	 Hi
[16:27:29] <zeljkof_>	 hi Leena
[16:48:09] <chrismcmahonbrb>	 hi zeljkof when you have time, could you review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/105106/ also?  I found some code duplication in there, and there might be some other misunderstandings 
[17:18:47] <zeljkof>	 chrismcmahon: I have added a star to it in gerrit, I have to go now, I will take a look tomorrow
[17:25:10] <chrismcmahon>	 thanks zeljkof
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[18:11:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Tim Landscheidt: Define labs-toollabs-debian-glue separately [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106295 
[18:12:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tim Landscheidt: "@hashar Only one way to find out if this works :-)." [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106295 (owner: 10Tim Landscheidt)
[18:21:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Jhall: WIP Scripts for creating users + articles via API [qa/browsertests] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/105835 
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[19:36:49] <chrismcmahon>	 hey JeffHall did you see today's VE failures? 
[19:36:57] <chrismcmahon>	 JeffHall:  (sorry I
[19:37:10] <chrismcmahon>	 JeffHall: (sorry I'm only just now catching up)
[19:37:41] <JeffHall>	 chrismcmahon: Yeah, I did see those - looked like they were mostly caused by timeouts
[19:38:14] <chrismcmahon>	 JeffHall:  something's changed with the diff view on the general_markup test
[19:38:46] <chrismcmahon>	 JeffHall: also, the messages went wacky on the Header test https://wmf.ci.cloudbees.com/job/VisualEditor-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/
[19:39:53] <JeffHall>	 chrismcmahon: I can take a look at those - looks like individual scenarios failed, so must be some small change causing the failures
[19:40:37] <chrismcmahon>	 JeffHall: general_markup just failed for me running locally, I'm checking the headings test now
[19:43:50] <chrismcmahon>	 JeffHall: headings is doing something strange, it's taking forever to load each test.  How about I take headings and  you take general_markup? 
[19:44:11] <JeffHall>	 chrismcmahon: Sounds good - thanks!
[19:45:28] <chrismcmahon>	 JeffHall:  it does look like a messages/i18n thing caused the headings failure (shared test env ftw) but this is not running very well. 
[19:49:57] <JeffHall>	 chrismcmahon: The general-markup test passed for me, running locally with (betalabs + Firefox) - what errors did you get when running that test locally?
[19:51:19] <chrismcmahon>	 JeffHall: huh.  Failed for me repeatedly: timed out after 10 seconds (Watir::Wait::TimeoutError)
[19:51:20] <chrismcmahon>	 ./features/step_definitions/headings_steps.rb:15:in `block (2 levels) in <top (required)>'
[19:51:20] <chrismcmahon>	 ./features/step_definitions/headings_steps.rb:10:in `/^(.+) should appear in the diff view$/'
[19:51:20] <chrismcmahon>	 features/general_markup.feature:10:in `Then <expected_markup_text> should appear in the diff view'
[19:51:20] <chrismcmahon>	 timed out after 10 seconds (Watir::Wait::TimeoutError)
[19:51:20] <chrismcmahon>	 ./features/step_definitions/headings_steps.rb:15:in `block (2 levels) in <top (required)>'
[19:51:20] <chrismcmahon>	 ./features/step_definitions/headings_steps.rb:10:in `/^(.+) should appear in the diff view$/'
[19:51:21] <chrismcmahon>	 features/general_markup.feature:10:in `Then <expected_markup_text> should appear in the diff view'
[19:51:52] <chrismcmahon>	 JeffHall: I'll check again.  The headings test has got me scratching my head. 
[19:51:55] <JeffHall>	 chrismcmahon: Do you have the BROWSER_LABEL env variable exported on your local machine?
[19:52:10] <chrismcmahon>	 JeffHall:  ah, I probably did not at that time
[19:52:32] <chrismcmahon>	 JeffHall: OK, got it, let me dig into this performance thing with the headings
[19:57:29] <chrismcmahon>	 JeffHall: the try.times kluge has been costing us 80 seconds per run in the headings test alone :-/.  I'm going to try to de-klugify it a little bit. 
[19:58:28] <JeffHall>	 chrismcmahon: Yeah, a better solution to that "retry loop" would certainly be welcome :)
[20:03:34] <chrismcmahon>	 JeffHall: browser suck https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/106317/
[20:04:06] <chrismcmahon>	 JeffHall:  that keeps the kluge we need but eliminates the more expensive kluge I hope we don't need
[20:04:59] <JeffHall>	 chrismcmahon: Makes sense to me!
[20:18:27] <hashar>	 chrismcmahon: hey :D
[20:18:43] <chrismcmahon>	 hi hashar
[20:18:52] <hashar>	 chrismcmahon: I could use some ideas for the monthly report of beta
[20:18:52] <hashar>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Beta_cluster/status&action=edit&section=58
[20:19:12] <hashar>	 beside Parsoid self updating, I am not aware of any major changes onbeta
[20:19:56] <hashar>	 I guess something happened on browser test front
[20:20:07] <hashar>	 or you might be aware of other groups successfully using beta 
[20:21:20] <chrismcmahon>	 hashar:  we fixed the 503 errors by identifying three issues:  the Varnish timeout values, the double-parsing pages problem, and the automated browser tests for Mobile themselves.  that was big. 
[20:21:43] <chrismcmahon>	 hashar:  those 503 errors almost certainly were happening in production mobile web but were under-reported
[20:23:23] <chrismcmahon>	 JeffHall:  gem install is telling me that "require "rest_client"" is not found but suggests "rest-client" (dash not underscore)
[20:24:44] <JeffHall>	 chrismcmahon: Hmmm - I guess it's the same thing
[20:26:34] <chrismcmahon>	 JeffHall:  seems to be 
[20:27:50] <hashar>	 chrismcmahon: you have a better memory than me :-D
[20:28:06] <hashar>	 chrismcmahon: would you mind writing that on the status report ? 
[20:28:07] <chrismcmahon>	 hashar:  I spent a LOT of time on those 503 errors
[20:28:16] <hashar>	 yeah they are nasty
[20:28:31] <hashar>	 and had multiple causes :/
[20:36:27] <chrismcmahon>	 hashar:  make sense? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_cluster/status#2013-12-monthly JeffHall you might read also
[20:37:42] <hashar>	 chrismcmahon: you are awesome :-]
[20:38:04] <hashar>	 I have pinged Guillaume Paumier about it, I guess he will include it to the monthly report
[20:38:06] <hashar>	 \O/
[20:38:24] <chrismcmahon>	 hashar:  relevant bugs are https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57249 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57026
[20:40:09] <hashar>	 triple parsing …. oh my god
[20:40:29] <hashar>	 anomie is a huge asset there
[20:41:42] <chrismcmahon>	 hashar: like I said, I think those 503s had to be happening in production, but they were only obvious in the Mobile tests on beta labs. 
[20:42:14] <hashar>	 we probably never noticed the 503 on production mobile varnish
[20:42:20] <hashar>	 I am not even sure we monitor them somewhere
[20:43:27] <chrismcmahon>	 hashar: and of course they are not reported because a) people who see them are on mobile phones and b) reloading the page renders it correctly
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[23:44:24] <chrismcmahon>	 I kind of doubt it, but is anyone here able to run ruby webdriver on a native Windows machine?   Just curious.