[00:59:13] <wmf-selenium-bot>	 Yippee, build fixed!
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[00:59:24] <James_F>	 Woo.
[00:59:32] <James_F>	 (Finally.)
[01:00:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aarcos: WIP Run UploadWizard API tests at CloudBees (031 comment) [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/108924 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[02:23:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aarcos: [C: 031] "After the changes we made to the requirements.txt this should work fine. Let me or Gergo know if any problems." [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/108924 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[02:25:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: WIP Run UploadWizard API tests at CloudBees (031 comment) [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/108924 (owner: 10Zfilipin)
[03:15:56] <wmf-selenium-bot>	 Yippee, build fixed!
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[11:59:08] <zeljkof>	 Tobi_WMDE: can I cc the answer to your question to QA mailing list?
[12:33:51] <Tobi_WMDE>	 zeljkof: sure
[12:34:09] <zeljkof>	 Tobi_WMDE: ok, will reply there in a few minutes, just to finish something
[12:34:52] <Tobi_WMDE>	 ok
[13:38:32] <mayankmadan>	 hi zeljkof 
[13:38:40] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof, sorry im late, are you free?
[13:39:21] <mayankmadan>	 zeljkof_, ^
[14:41:58] <zeljkof>	 manybubbles: see you next week then
[14:42:14] <manybubbles>	 zeljkof: I normally wake up around 7 at home but when I come out to SF I tend to be up around 5:30 or so
[14:42:23] <zeljkof>	 you have disappeared from the hangout
[14:42:27] <manybubbles>	 sorry!  I'll try my laptop
[14:42:34] <manybubbles>	 I didn't mean to!
[14:42:34] <manybubbles>	 it just booted me
[14:42:41] <manybubbles>	 maybe the hotel hates it?
[14:42:45] <zeljkof>	 could be
[14:42:58] <zeljkof>	 anyway, enjoy the day and see you next week :)
[14:43:19] <chrismcmahon>	 manybubbles: that sounds unpleasant :-)
[14:43:24] <Nemo_bis>	 hotel hates everything I think
[14:43:51] <manybubbles>	 Nemo_bis: you didn't come here, did you?  I thought I might see you here.
[14:43:55] <zeljkof>	 manybubbles: where are you, club quarters?
[14:44:01] <manybubbles>	 chrismcmahon: I get to work a lot
[14:44:21] <chrismcmahon>	 I'm happy to do some f2f programming with Jeff today.  We're going to make the API go zoom zoom. 
[14:44:30] <manybubbles>	 but I also go out with the WMF crowd in the evenings so my natural inclination to get up is tiring
[14:44:43] <manybubbles>	 zeljkof: yeah.
[14:44:57] <manybubbles>	 normally it isn't bad
[14:44:58] <manybubbles>	 maybe I'm far from an access point
[14:44:59] <manybubbles>	 yeah, the little bars are low.
[14:45:11] <chrismcmahon>	 gotta have those bars
[14:45:13] <zeljkof>	 manybubbles: I think they have wired internet
[14:45:22] <zeljkof>	 as far as I remember
[14:45:57] <manybubbles>	 huh.  I only see a wire for the phone
[14:46:04] <manybubbles>	 and this silly laptop doesn't have a plug for wired
[14:46:25] <zeljkof>	 manybubbles: yes, my travel chromebook also does not have ethernet :)
[14:47:46] <Nemo_bis>	 manybubbles: nope, not there; saving CO2
[15:00:36] <zeljkof>	 anybody noticed a cloud icon appearing after copy/pasted text in visual editor?
[15:01:10] <zeljkof>	 example: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual:Coding_conventions/Selenium&diff=next&oldid=889686
[15:01:10] <zeljkof>	 when I was working on this earlier today
[15:01:30] <zeljkof>	 when I have copied "assertions" from page text to "rspec-expectations" headline
[15:01:45] <zeljkof>	 after "assertions" string, in addition a cloud icon appeared
[15:02:01] <zeljkof>	 but I can not reproduce it now
[15:02:18] <zeljkof>	 I give up for now
[15:02:29] <zeljkof>	 but if anybody has and idea how to reproduce it, let me knwo
[15:02:30] <zeljkof>	 knwo
[15:02:32] <zeljkof>	 know
[15:02:42] <zeljkof>	 (where is autocorrect when you need it)
[15:15:40] <tonythomas01>	 using vagrant, we are doing the same tests we run using test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/ in our localhost right ?
[15:18:05] <mayankmadan>	 tonythomas01, i think if you wanna run those tests on localhost, then you need to export the MEDIAWIKI_URL variable
[15:18:34] <mayankmadan>	 tonythomas01, tests for clean installation of mediawiki are in consideration
[15:18:39] <mayankmadan>	 check the qa mailing list
[15:19:00] <tonythomas01>	 mayankmadan: ok. is testing on vagrant preferred over the test2.wikipedia.org ?
[15:21:10] <mayankmadan>	 tonythomas01, the websites on which you have to test are written in feature files as cucumber tags
[16:49:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Zfilipin: WIP Run UploadWizard API tests at CloudBees [selenium] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/108924 
[21:28:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adamw: Add jobs for mediawiki-vagrant erblint and "rake lint" [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/109428 
[21:33:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Adamw: Run additional, non-voting lint jobs for mediawiki-vagrant [integration/zuul-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/109430 
[21:55:56] <jdlrobson>	 JeffHall: how do i force a test to wait until an element is present and enabled?
[21:56:06] <jdlrobson>	 (or anyone else who might know)
[21:56:16] <jdlrobson>	 trying to write a test to cover this case
[21:56:44] <JeffHall>	 jdlrobson: The simplest way is something like: when_present(10)
[21:56:50] <jdlrobson>	 :-S
[21:57:00] <jdlrobson>	 JeffHall: there is no other way?
[21:57:15] <JeffHall>	 jdlrobson: If that doesn't work as expected, you can implement it as a retry loop
[21:57:28] <jdlrobson>	 JeffHall: how do i do a retry loop?
[21:57:47] <JeffHall>	 jdlrobson: Let me grab the syntax on that real quick...
[21:59:35] <JeffHall>	 jdlrobson:    try = 10
[21:59:36] <JeffHall>	     try.times do
[21:59:36] <JeffHall>	       begin
[21:59:36] <JeffHall>	         #do some stuff
[21:59:36] <JeffHall>	       rescue
[21:59:36] <JeffHall>	       end
[21:59:36] <JeffHall>	     end
[22:00:10] <JeffHall>	 jdlrobson: That pasted a little funny, but hopefully it makes sense.  I believe we also have a wiki page on this, which I will try to find now...
[22:00:44] <jdlrobson>	 JeffHall: will give it a go thanks
[22:01:58] <JeffHall>	 jdlrobson: More info here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Quality_Assurance/Browser_testing/Writing_tests#Timeouts