[00:29:34] Hi! I am working on a small feature in Visual editor module"long external target link URL being shortened" ..I am working on the step definition part butam not clear about how the pageobjects are being definedCould anyone help me a bit on this.. [00:34:28] Jagori: have you read https://github.com/cheezy/page-object ? [00:34:56] @chrismcmahon:Yes I have but am not claer with few things [00:36:21] Jagori: I am just about to leave for the day, but let me encourage you to ask a question on the QA mail list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/qa . It sounds like it would be of interest to the mail list subscribers. [00:36:50] Oh sure [00:37:20] @chrismcmahon:yes..would do definitely then..thanks so much Chris [00:37:53] @chrismcmahon:do you have few mins before you leave?I am stuck on somehwere [00:38:22] Jagori: stuck where? [00:38:55] @chrismcmahon:Yes..sorry I meant in visualeditor_pg.rb there's this: span(:linksuggestion, text: "http://www.example.com") [00:39:47] @chrismcmahon:I was thinking for these kind of elements do I have to identify by text? [00:40:35] I mean if I enter some other text instead of example.com , would I have to again add another elemnt under visualeditor_pg.rb [00:42:22] Jagori: you should use an entirely new link, www.example.com is specified in the .feature file: https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FVisualEditor/610f41e06ac946970d8b2b71fea7144cd37ad95f/modules%2Fve-mw%2Ftest%2Fbrowser%2Ffeatures%2Flinks.feature [00:44:07] @chrismcmahon:I understand your point..yes am aware of that..my question is for a same element to have different inputs would I have to define /add another element [00:44:11] Jagori: then see line 56 https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FVisualEditor/610f41e06ac946970d8b2b71fea7144cd37ad95f/modules%2Fve-mw%2Ftest%2Fbrowser%2Ffeatures%2Fstep_definitions%2Flinks_steps.rb [00:45:00] @chrismcmahon:Yes am working on this file only..adding a separate scenario [00:45:12] for adding ong external target links [00:45:18] Jagori: so you would want to not use any of the existing defined links, but your own link could be defined any way you like [00:45:38] it doesn't have to be with text: if something else makes more sense [00:46:08] Okay..so I should create a new elemnt with my own text or maybe anything else with which I would like to identify [00:46:36] @chrismcmahon:But doesnt it lead to redundancy in code..pardon me if am wrong about this..I am still learning [00:46:40] Jagori: yes. also note that each of the existing links has its own step in the steps.rb file also [00:46:46] Yes.. [00:46:49] I checked that [00:47:47] Project UploadWizard-api-commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org build #120: SUCCESS in 23 sec: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/UploadWizard-api-commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/120/ [00:47:49] @chrismcmahon:I was thinking of maybe reusing some the already existing steps so that no extra elements need to be introduced.. [00:48:29] Jagori: I seem to recall that we had a reason not to do that, but if you can refactor those steps and they continue to pass, that would be fine. [00:49:09] @chrismcmahon:Okay thanks so much..Chris [00:50:09] @chrismcmahon:Are there other links which I should be following for writing my code :apart from https://github.com/cheezy/page-object ? [00:50:13] Jagori: yeah, that probably could be refactored to be less code now that I look at it. Do send a msg. to the QA mail list though. I might remember why we did it that way. :-) [00:50:22] :) [00:50:28] @chrismcmahon:Thanks sure [00:53:08] thanks Jagori that looks like a nice refactoring project [00:53:33] @chrismcmahon:sure I would love to be part of it..if at all I can contribute [00:53:59] @chrismcmahon:I just couldnt work on this project for some time as I had my leg injury [00:54:11] but now i would like to be contributing actively [00:54:48] Project UploadWizard-api-commons.wikimedia.org build #93: SUCCESS in 24 sec: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/UploadWizard-api-commons.wikimedia.org/93/ [00:55:20] @chrismcmahon:also could you suggest me some links where I can get to learn about watir too..I guess this is being used to write tests [00:55:40] @chrismcmahon:I know selenium webdriver and it seemed pretty similar [00:58:44] Jagori: https://github.com/watir/watir-webdriver it's a wrapper that gives us some nice convenience methods [00:58:59] Jagori: wrapper around selenium-webdriver [00:59:01] @chrismcmahon:Thanks so much Chris [00:59:10] would definitely have a look at it [01:01:49] Jagori: one of the most important things watir-webdriver gives us is the ability to specify page elements with more than one identifier, e.g. "span(:link_hover, class: "oo-ui-iconedElement-icon oo-ui-icon-link", index: 1)" . That is non-trivial in plain selenium-webdriver. [01:02:13] @chrismcmahon:also just 1 more question :) how do I check if my code is workinghow do I run my tests ..till now I had been using cucumber from command prompt to check code.. [01:02:40] @chrismcmahon: Okay I see [01:02:55] Jagori: I have to go, let's continue on the QA mail list [01:03:16] so this helps in pinpointing and explicitly identifying an element well more than in selenium webdriver [03:06:51] Project browsertests-MultimediaViewer-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox build #48: SUCCESS in 27 sec: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-MultimediaViewer-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox/48/ [03:09:40] Project browsertests-UniversalLanguageSelector-sandbox.translatewiki.net-linux-firefox build #57: FAILURE in 2 min 16 sec: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-UniversalLanguageSelector-sandbox.translatewiki.net-linux-firefox/57/ [03:18:33] Project browsertests-MobileFrontend-en.m.wikipedia.org-linux-firefox build #50: STILL FAILING in 11 min: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-MobileFrontend-en.m.wikipedia.org-linux-firefox/50/ [03:21:33] Project browsertests-TwnMainPage-sandbox.translatewiki.net-linux-firefox build #60: STILL FAILING in 6 min 9 sec: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-TwnMainPage-sandbox.translatewiki.net-linux-firefox/60/ [03:27:32] Project browsertests-ZeroRatedMobileAccess-en.m.wikipedia.org-linux-phantomjs build #51: STILL FAILING in 9 sec: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-ZeroRatedMobileAccess-en.m.wikipedia.org-linux-phantomjs/51/ [03:27:50] Project browsertests-UniversalLanguageSelector-commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox build #59: STILL FAILING in 8 min 26 sec: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-UniversalLanguageSelector-commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox/59/ [03:29:54] Project browsertests-VisualEditor-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox build #71: STILL FAILING in 16 min: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-VisualEditor-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox/71/ [03:31:56] Project browsertests-VisualEditor-test2.wikipedia.org-linux-firefox build #47: STILL FAILING in 19 min: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-VisualEditor-test2.wikipedia.org-linux-firefox/47/ [03:33:28] Project browsertests-UniversalLanguageSelector-language-browsertests.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox build #49: STILL FAILING in 5 min 4 sec: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-UniversalLanguageSelector-language-browsertests.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox/49/ [03:38:07] Yippee, build fixed! 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[16:07:04] James_F: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65401 [16:29:40] greg-g: I would guess that we'll be patching VE on mw.o today ^^ [16:45:50] chrismcmahonbrb: No, interesting; think it's a duplicate, possibly. [17:02:10] James_F: seems that was introduced mid-day yesterday, so beta and mw.o got the bug more or less simultaneously [17:02:48] chrismcmahon: Yeah, Krinkle pushed jQuery to 1.11 a few minutes after the cut and backported, so no testing before release. [17:02:52] * James_F grumbles. [17:03:51] James_F: usually the first thing I do in the morning is check test build failures, but I decided to do the QA candidate eval first, imagine my surprise when she reported that Save in FF was totally broken. :-) [17:04:06] chrismcmahon: Many things are. [17:04:08] and sure enough, the XP/FF build was hosed [17:08:04] chrismcmahon: Apparently all Firefox builds; there's a fatal bug in Firefox we've triggered with jQuery 1.11 which wasn't triggered by 1.8. We're looking at working around it. [17:29:54] 3:02 < James_F> chrismcmahon: Yeah, Krinkle pushed jQuery to 1.11 a few minutes after the cut and backported, so no testing before release. [17:29:57] really? [17:30:15] Yeah. :-( [17:31:29] greg-g: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/133477/ merged just after the cut for wmf5; immediately cherry-picked to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/133486/ [17:33:16] New jQuery version; what could go wrong? ;) [17:34:41] I think at one point at my last job we had 7 versions of jQuery in the app stack because we were scared to regress all the changes. [17:35:44] It has the migrate plugin accompanied. Essentially full coverage, and it's been well-tested for several months by the community at large. We're currently only seeing 1 single bug caused by a null pointer exception in Firefox's own crappy native code. [17:36:23] Krinkle: Awesome. You plan better than we did. (and probably understand jQuery much much better) [17:44:40] Krinkle: yeah, but that one single bug prevents Save from working [17:44:58] Yes, and that's why we deploy to test wikis first. [17:45:37] Krinkle: I'd prefer to find those issues on beta labs rather than mediawiki.org [17:46:19] These features were deprecated > 4 years ago, discouraged for more than 5, and any additional minor changes in the release have been field tested and beta tested by the internet at large for almost a year. THis happening is rare, very rare. And you have an experienced Wikimedian and jQuery core contributor on it. [17:47:57] Krinkle: you miss my point [17:50:00] Krinkle: coming at the question from a different angle: Is there a reason it was only merged into master on Thursday morning? Could it have been merged into master earlier in the week last week? [17:50:09] not deployed, mind you, just merged into master. [17:50:30] Had I not been fixing other issues, yes. But since I get the glory and fame for all frontend things at the moment, no. [17:50:46] :) [17:50:52] I was just making the schedule, and there was no reason to delay because this was a judgement call to make. [17:50:55] I understand. [17:50:59] making as in, executing [17:51:04] anyway, I'm fixing it now. [17:51:08] Coolio. [17:51:12] thanks muchly. [17:51:27] (sidenote: boy let's get that code pipeline in place) ;) [17:51:54] (sidenote2: working on a loaner laptop sucks) [17:53:10] chrismcmahon: I should have mentioned this idea to you this week: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65126 There's probably more context I didn't put in the bug/blocker bugs, so I might just tell you about it after everyone is done status-updating in next week's meeting. [17:57:40] greg-g: speaking of new stuff to talk about next week, I spent some time making a universal acceptance test suite I'd like you to know about: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/133507/ [17:58:33] greg-g: lemme put you on the review list. I still want to make a few tweaks, but it's close enough to start talking to Mark, Chris etc. about it I think [17:58:40] cool [17:58:43] :) [18:04:48] greg-g: yeah, I remember looking at doing that some time ago, but without the API access it was daunting. Now that we have the create-page API access working nicely it is much easier to make universal tests. 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[19:01:59] Project browsertests-WikiLove-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox build #48: FIXED in 1 min 35 sec: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-WikiLove-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox/48/ [19:03:44] Project browsertests-qa-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox build #49: FAILURE in 8 min 20 sec: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-qa-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox/49/ [19:13:06] Project browsertests-qa-test2.wikipedia.org-linux-firefox build #51: STILL FAILING in 15 min: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-qa-test2.wikipedia.org-linux-firefox/51/ [19:34:05] Project browsertests-MobileFrontend-en.m.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox build #48: STILL FAILING in 42 min: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-MobileFrontend-en.m.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox/48/ [20:16:37] (03PS2) 10Hashar: Generate jobs for MolHandler [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133212 (owner: 10Rillke) [20:17:06] (03PS2) 10Hashar: (WIP) Gating experiment (WIP) [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133490 [20:18:18] Krinkle|detached: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#Something_is_broken related? [20:19:53] (03PS1) 10Hashar: Triggers mw/ext/MolHandler [integration/zuul-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133824 [20:21:14] (03CR) 10Hashar: [C: 032] Triggers mw/ext/MolHandler [integration/zuul-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133824 (owner: 10Hashar) [20:21:21] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Triggers mw/ext/MolHandler [integration/zuul-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133824 (owner: 10Hashar) [20:21:34] (03CR) 10Hashar: [C: 032] "Job created in Jenkins. The triggers are added in Zuul by https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/133824/" [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133212 (owner: 10Rillke) [20:22:42] hashar: Thanks for merging that MolHandler job patch. I had it on my todo list but hadn't gotten to it yet. [20:23:12] bd808: I barely processed any email this week :-/ [20:23:14] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Generate jobs for MolHandler [integration/jenkins-job-builder-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133212 (owner: 10Rillke) [20:23:23] also, shouldn't you be out drinking or something at this time of the day and week :) [20:24:26] bd808: my drinking buddies are either in Paris or have kids themselves. So I guess we all rest in the evening pending the 7am kid alarm clock :D [20:25:31] Kids do mess up a good drinking club. My wife and I keep finding younger and younger friends to replace the one who become parents. [20:26:04] yeah that is a pity [20:26:23] our circle of friends is smaller as a result [20:26:25] (03CR) 10Rillke: "Thank you!" [integration/zuul-config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/133824 (owner: 10Hashar) [20:26:35] we get Sunday brunches to replace them though [20:29:33] bd808: MolHandler done. I have no idea what that extension is going to do but the jobs pass! [20:30:36] hashar: Awesome! It's a GSoC project to make chemical formula diagrams on Commons. [20:30:48] ohhh [20:31:03] we had some unsuccessful attempts previously [20:31:32] This one may or may not work, but its worth trying. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Chemical_Markup_support_for_Wikimedia_Commons [20:32:26] one of the attempt got dismissed because the server side utility was insecure / could eat all memory & cpu [20:32:40] are you mentoring him? [20:33:02] I'm a co-mentor with gi11es and bawolff [20:33:36] sounds like a perfect team to me [20:33:50] I'm a little worried about the libs he wants to use, but we'll see what happens [20:33:57] whatever backend utility is being chosen, make sure to get Tim / Chris in the loop for security concerns [20:34:31] Yes. That will be key. We've got some licensing issues to work through too. [20:35:20] ah [20:35:35] I am mixing up with Score extension and LilyPond renderer (that is for music) [20:36:38] bd808: kudos on mentoring that one. It is a long awaited extension [20:37:00] Neat. It looks like LilyPond makes some pretty scores [20:37:18] it got deployed fairly recently iirc [20:37:23] although the code has been around for ages [20:37:30] I have no idea what was blocking it though [20:37:58] our mediawiki-core list would know (chad/tim/sam) [20:38:53] * hashar process more mails [20:47:19] bd808: heading bed. Enjoy the round of beers :) [20:47:45] goodnight hashar. HAve agood weekend [20:47:55] danke! [21:18:24] chrismcmahon: seen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#Skin_and_gadget_issues_16_May_2014 ? [21:19:25] greg-g: gah. not seen that until you pointed it out [21:20:19] greg-g: gadgets are the Wild West, I'd never even heard of that one [21:20:51] chrismcmahon: I just pinged Matma about it over in #mediawiki-core [21:32:20] greg-g: Steven Walling might be the one to contact, the whole typography business is above my pay grade [21:32:51] that's not just typo, that's js not loading, ori and matma are investigating [21:33:50] bah [21:42:41] greg-g: turned the gadget on, enwp looks normal to me fwiw [21:45:14] greg-g: no reports in the last several hours either it seems. shout if you need anything [22:30:40] chrismcmahon: are you able to still reproduce it? [22:31:00] or could you at any point? ori is curious if his unrelated sync may have jostled the cache enough [22:31:01] greg-g: I never could repro it [22:31:05] * greg-g nods [22:31:07] me neither [22:47:00] greg-g: No, not related to anything I've seen today. [22:47:54] But wmf4 did go from non-Wikipedias to Wikipedia yesterday so this might've been sometihng we missed until now [22:48:05] anyway, will assume someone else looks into this if needed. [22:49:04] Krinkle: yeah, odder has lost the ability to repro, so I'm not worried right now [22:49:10] gah! [22:49:13] spoke too soon, he just did [22:49:57] 18:49 < twkozlows> greg-g: I use the Vector classic typography (use only sans-serif in Vector skin) gadget and its dead [22:50:14] Krinkle: mind taking a look when you get a chance, Matma and ori arent' able to right now