[00:04:06] merged https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/183382/ [00:06:43] ty mutante [00:07:38] -CHANS="#wikidata,#wikimedia-labs,#wikimedia-operations,#wikimedia-qa" [00:07:38] +CHANS="#wikidata,#wikimedia-labs,#wikimedia-operations,#wikimedia-qa,#wikimedia-releng" [00:07:47] ^ on neon, the icinga box. not sure yet about the logstash [00:09:22] The logstash config is in the logstash::beta role [00:11:28] suspects beta puppetmaster has to be synced [00:14:47] Project beta-scap-eqiad build #37404: FAILURE in 50 sec: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/beta-scap-eqiad/37404/ [00:35:09] Yippee, build fixed! [00:35:10] Project beta-scap-eqiad build #37406: FIXED in 1 min 6 sec: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/beta-scap-eqiad/37406/ [02:33:09] * quiddity has to catch them all. [03:38:23] Project browsertests-MultimediaViewer-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-windows_8.1-internet_explorer-11-sauce build #241: FAILURE in 31 min: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-MultimediaViewer-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-windows_8.1-internet_explorer-11-sauce/241/ [03:43:17] quiddity: don't worry, we'll collapse 3 into 1 shortly [04:01:19] Project browsertests-VisualEditor-test2.wikipedia.org-linux-chrome-sauce build #417: FAILURE in 21 min: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-VisualEditor-test2.wikipedia.org-linux-chrome-sauce/417/ [05:11:15] Yippee, build fixed! [05:11:15] Project browsertests-VisualEditor-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-chrome-sauce build #444: FIXED in 19 min: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-VisualEditor-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-chrome-sauce/444/ [06:34:43] Project beta-scap-eqiad build #37445: FAILURE in 44 sec: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/beta-scap-eqiad/37445/ [06:36:50] Yippee, build fixed! [06:36:51] Project browsertests-MultimediaViewer-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-chrome-sauce build #395: FIXED in 24 min: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-MultimediaViewer-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-chrome-sauce/395/ [06:39:35] Project browsertests-UniversalLanguageSelector-commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox-sauce build #389: FAILURE in 14 min: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-UniversalLanguageSelector-commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox-sauce/389/ [06:55:52] Yippee, build fixed! [06:55:52] Project beta-scap-eqiad build #37447: FIXED in 1 min 49 sec: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/beta-scap-eqiad/37447/ [12:54:46] Project beta-scap-eqiad build #37483: FAILURE in 44 sec: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/beta-scap-eqiad/37483/ [13:15:03] Yippee, build fixed! [13:15:03] Project beta-scap-eqiad build #37485: FIXED in 1 min 5 sec: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/beta-scap-eqiad/37485/ [17:27:31] greg-g: I see the group1 train deploy for next week is at 11:00 PST instead of 13:00 UTC. Was that on purpose or another cut-n-paste problem? -- https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments#Tuesday.2C.C2.A0January.C2.A013 -- in either case the google calendar and the wiki don't agree [17:29:39] bd808: wiki is right, wikidata no longer want that time as much as they did [17:30:10] (fixed gcal) [17:30:21] (also, I'm always a little surprised when I hear people still use it) [17:30:51] Heh. I have it turned on in my calendar all the time so I'm aware when I think about scheduling things [17:31:22] Right now I was looking at next week to see when I might deploy the updated scholarships app [17:31:44] gotcha [17:31:56] you mean that wiki page doesn't have the best UI/UX? :) [17:32:08] no it really sucks actually [17:32:29] One thing I hate is that you have to section edit a week at a time [17:33:01] also calendars are most useful when you can mash multiple together [17:33:16] which is why I actually look at it in gcal :) [17:36:24] greg-g: I'm going to put myself down for 2 windows next week. monday at 18:00 UTC to update the database schema and push out the "almost final" app and another on thursday at 23:00 UTC to push the "last minute text changes". The application period opens on Monday 2015-01-19. [17:36:31] Any objections? [17:43:25] (one sec, in meeting(s)) [17:57:25] Release-Engineering, Wikibugs: Unify RelEng related IRC channels to #wikimedia-releng - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86053#966187 (Legoktm) [17:57:35] woot [17:58:00] Continuous-Integration, Ops-Access-Requests: Make sure relevant RelEng people have access to gallium (Chris M, Dan, Mukunda, Zeljko) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85936#966189 (chasemp) [17:58:16] no colors? :( [17:58:54] Continuous-Integration, Ops-Access-Requests: Make sure relevant RelEng people have access to gallium (Chris M, Dan, Mukunda, Zeljko) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85936#957717 (chasemp) [18:05:33] Phabricator.org: Shortcut keys for description fields text formatting are needed. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T816#966215 (Jaredzimmerman-WMF) [18:14:22] Release-Engineering, operations: Determine Trebuchet/git-deploy maintenance plan - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85008#966251 (chasemp) a:greg Dear Greg, You marked this as high which I think is reasonable :) But it seems like anything really high priority has to have an assignee or it should be bust... [18:17:25] operations, Beta-Cluster: Renumber apache user/group to uid=48 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78076#966266 (ori) > This package was removed by @ori in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/136151/ on 2014-05-29 which left the uid of the apache user unspecified for all subsequent hosts provisioned by Puppet... [18:37:37] Phabricator: Set up dumping Phabricator's project taxonomy to a wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85096#966280 (valhallasw) Open>stalled @scfc, does this provide what you need? [18:41:19] Yippee, build fixed! [18:41:19] Project browsertests-MultimediaViewer-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-windows_8.1-internet_explorer-11-sauce build #242: FIXED in 34 min: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-MultimediaViewer-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-windows_8.1-internet_explorer-11-sauce/242/ [18:47:54] Phabricator: When you close a task as "Resolved" from the Comment action, Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#966321 (valhallasw) https://github.com/phacility/phabricator/blob/21dca29c5f2929064cfe969cfd4bd417df5621bf/src/applications/maniphest/controller/Ma... [18:50:50] Phabricator: When you close an unassigned task as "Resolved" from the Comment action, Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#966325 (valhallasw) [19:04:03] operations, Beta-Cluster: Renumber apache user/group to uid=48 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78076#966359 (Dzahn) >>! In T78076#966266, @ori wrote:> > so it is still consistently 48 / 48, even on new installs. this is not the case. mw1033: id apache uid=996(apache) gid=48(apache) groups=48(apache) [19:05:24] Yippee, build fixed! [19:05:24] Project browsertests-VisualEditor-test2.wikipedia.org-linux-chrome-sauce build #418: FIXED in 22 min: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-VisualEditor-test2.wikipedia.org-linux-chrome-sauce/418/ [19:08:16] Project browsertests-Flow-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox-sauce build #467: FAILURE in 50 min: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-Flow-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox-sauce/467/ [19:14:51] Project browsertests-Math-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-chrome-sauce build #333: FAILURE in 1 min 2 sec: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-Math-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-chrome-sauce/333/ [19:14:59] Project beta-scap-eqiad build #37518: FAILURE in 50 sec: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/beta-scap-eqiad/37518/ [19:36:34] Quality-Assurance, Release-Engineering: Review and merge environment abstraction layer for mediawiki_selenium - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78356#966466 (dduvall) (Sorry, I borked the first merge commit on account of another `git review`/remote-branch mishap.) [19:41:59] greg-g: this channel needs colors! [19:43:49] legoktm: agreed! colorify! [19:44:10] set -c :) [19:44:10] (is that a channel switch I need to enable to allow it?) [19:44:13] yeah [19:46:07] Phabricator: Create a static HTML version of Bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85140#966501 (JohnLewis) >>! In T85140#965001, @Dzahn wrote: >>>! In T85140#947014, @JohnLewis wrote: >> Stored locally. I've not had chance to speak to Daniel yet about what the next steps are with the idea. > > No ne... [19:47:46] Phabricator: Create a static HTML version of Bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85140#966504 (Dzahn) I don't know either. The options seem to be: - just upload them manually once, saying it's not worth any additonal effort since it's a one-time thing - make a .deb that does nothing but install the... [19:48:27] Yippee, build fixed! [19:48:28] Project beta-scap-eqiad build #37519: FIXED in 24 min: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/beta-scap-eqiad/37519/ [19:50:31] Phabricator: Create a static HTML version of Bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85140#966515 (JohnLewis) >>! In T85140#966504, @Dzahn wrote: > I don't know either. The options seem to be: > > - just upload them manually once, saying it's not worth any additonal effort since it's a one-time thing P... [19:50:36] Phabricator: Local translations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86293#966516 (mmodell) why not use tags for tracking related bugs? [20:04:34] legoktm: set #wikimedia-releng mlock +nt-slk, right? [20:04:51] greg-g: uh, you should just be able to do -c [20:04:52] it's +ntc-slk right now [20:04:54] ah [20:05:33] I think? [20:05:56] also, that set it to just -c, I reset it to nt-slk [20:06:22] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator silently overwrites changes (no mid-air collision/conflict detection) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78236#966583 (10matmarex) >>! In T78236#945580, @MZMcBride wrote: > I'd imagine this is a known issue, but I haven't dug up a Phabricator.org task yet. Surprisingly, I actuall... [20:06:24] yay! [20:11:44] :D [20:22:06] 3Phabricator, Fundraising-Backlog: Migration of Fundraising Tech team to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T831#966666 (10atgo) [20:22:23] 3Phabricator, Fundraising-Backlog: Migration of Fundraising Tech team to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T831#13961 (10atgo) [20:22:59] 3Phabricator, Fundraising-Backlog: Migration of Fundraising Tech team to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T831#966669 (10atgo) 5Open>3Resolved @qgil Closing because we're in. Still working out the bumps, but it'll be that way for a while :) [20:23:01] 3Phabricator: Goal: The majority of WMF developer teams and sprints have moved to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T825#966671 (10atgo) [20:30:22] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator silently overwrites changes (no mid-air collision/conflict detection) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78236#966688 (10Ciencia_Al_Poder) >>! In T78236#966583, @matmarex wrote: >>>! In T78236#945580, @MZMcBride wrote: >> I'd imagine this is a known issue, but I haven't dug up a P... [20:39:03] 3Phabricator, Fundraising-Backlog: Create project for Fundraising - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T682#966706 (10atgo) @aklapper I sort of want to keep that project for the community to submit issues that we can triage into our workflow, but will try to work through the tasks open over there coming up. [20:54:07] 3operations, Phabricator: Create #site-incident tag and use it for incident reports - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85889#966759 (10greg) meta-comment: I want to make sure #Ops is on board with any change given the incident report process came out of their group explicitly. So, let's bring this up in one of... [21:08:00] 3MediaWiki-Configuration, Continuous-Integration: Update jenkins for extension registration changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86359#966894 (10Legoktm) 3NEW [21:09:30] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator silently overwrites changes (no mid-air collision/conflict detection) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78236#966915 (10Krenair) I think this matters for all instances, we just happen to be the ones that experience it more often due to relatively high traffic. [21:10:21] 3§ Phabricator-Sprint-Extension, Release-Engineering, Phabricator: Create a continuous integration plan for Wikimedia Phabricator patches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85123#966924 (10mmodell) @christopher: We will deploy this as soon as chase has the time to do so. You don't need to make the change to pu... [21:15:17] 3Phabricator: Existing Phabricator user waiting 1 month for bugzilla activity to be assigned - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85137#966940 (10Platonides) Seems fixed. The account indeed had the email written in lowercase (fetched from LDAP?). As it doesn't allow to directly add it with a different case («Ano... [21:15:42] 3Phabricator: Existing Phabricator user waiting 1 month for bugzilla activity to be assigned - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85137#966941 (10Platonides) 5stalled>3Resolved [21:26:25] 3Phabricator.org: Phabricator silently overwrites changes (no mid-air collision/conflict detection) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78236#966990 (10Nemo_bis) Yes, we're the only known very active user of maniphest. [21:46:24] 3WMF-Legal, Phabricator.org, Legalpad: Allow people to see all signatures on a Legalpad document but not allow them to edit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T374#967057 (10Jalexander) >>! In T374#965619, @Qgil wrote: > What is the use case for this? #wmf-legal will have edit rights to the document and this is... [21:47:34] 3Fundraising-Backlog, Phabricator: Create project for Fundraising - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T682#967059 (10Qgil) @atgo, please consider having a single project where all tasks land, and then create sprint projects where you cherry-pick the tasks for the next weeks. Having to monitor one space than havi... [21:47:53] 3Phabricator: Enable notification server (real-time pop-up notifications) in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T765#967060 (10mmodell) I've already tagged a release that should be getting deployed next week, however, I might be able to sneak this in. [21:50:01] 3Multimedia, Wikibugs: Wikibugs not reporting tasks that are only in #multimedia in the multimedia IRC channel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77947#967061 (10valhallasw) 5Open>3Resolved [21:51:26] 3Wikibugs: Add 'team' (purple) to output on IRC - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1209#967064 (10valhallasw) 5Open>3Resolved a:3valhallasw I think, in the current usage of 'team' projects, it's good to always list them, even if more specific projects are available. [21:52:15] Project browsertests-MultimediaViewer-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-chrome-sauce build #396: FAILURE in 25 min: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-MultimediaViewer-en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-chrome-sauce/396/ [21:52:33] Yippee, build fixed! [21:52:33] Project browsertests-UniversalLanguageSelector-commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox-sauce build #390: FIXED in 14 min: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/browsertests-UniversalLanguageSelector-commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org-linux-firefox-sauce/390/ [21:53:24] 3WMF-Legal, Phabricator.org, Legalpad: Allow people to see all signatures on a Legalpad document but not allow them to edit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T374#967070 (10Qgil) OTRS admins and stewards sound like people you can trust. Why not giving them edit rights, just telling them the obvious thing that... [21:55:02] 3Phabricator: Enable notification server (real-time pop-up notifications) in Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T765#967071 (10Qgil) @mmodell {T1286} is still a blocker. I would not rush. [22:08:28] 3Phabricator: Show percentage of teams migrated to Phabricator for project management - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T434#967125 (10Qgil) [22:18:44] 3Phabricator, operations: Create #site-incident tag and use it for incident reports - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85889#967149 (10GWicke) @greg: Sounds good to me. [22:18:48] 3Phabricator, operations: Migrate procurement@ from RT to Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84862#967150 (10Qgil) fwiw https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/ops-access-requests/ says: > procurement@ queues is currently still handled in RT. > That project will be activated once that has been migr... [22:20:10] 3Phabricator: Show percentage of teams migrated to Phabricator for project management - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T434#967152 (10Qgil) {T831} is resolved! Now the total is 67% and Mingle is at 92% (pending the completion of the Language Engineering migration only). For what is worth, [[ https://phabrica... [22:23:45] 3Phabricator.org: Renaming Phabricator project breaks links (doesn't create redirects) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T910#967160 (10Qgil) Mentioned at https://secure.phabricator.com/T6909 [22:32:43] 3Phabricator: Decide whether project reporting should be moved to Phabricator as well - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T24#967173 (10GWicke) I'm also curious about the overlap between Scrum of Scrums & the content of the monthly reports. Typically the weekly Scrum of Scrum updates have a mix of team dependenc... [22:41:50] 3Phabricator: When you close an unassigned task as "Resolved" from the Comment action, Phabricator thinks you want to claim the task - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T84833#967235 (10valhallasw) After discussing with @matmarex on IRC, some notes for a possible patch to change the behavior to 'show assign to f... [22:53:59] 3Phabricator.org: Should be easy to create new cards on a workboard - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86076#967289 (10Jdlrobson) Mm. Do we have a tracking bug for UX issues like this we hit? I somehow missed that. I guess the issue I have is I tend to work with long lists of tasks and am trying to create task... [23:45:37] 3Phabricator: Create a static HTML version of Bugzilla - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85140#967543 (10Dzahn) prepared the Apache/varnish/DNS config so we now have http://static-bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ and an empty dir to put the files in