[01:33:27] 10Phabricator, 10User-Josve05a: My profile picture on Phabricator looks wierd - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235348 (10Josve05a) It only happens intermittently. I'll report back if I see this in Chrome as well. Might consider this "Stalled" until then? [06:06:21] starting a new 1k image batch of upload/caption/depicts statements for beta. it will complete in 11 hours or so, same old thing, 10 seconds between edits, etc. [09:06:32] (03CR) 10Pwirth: "Thank you!" [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/549836 (owner: 10Pwirth) [09:42:36] uploads complete, captions started [10:04:02] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Deployment services), 10Release-Engineering-Team-TODO, 10incubator.wikimedia.org, 10I18n: Allow creating an independent "incubator wiki" instead of hosting all new wikis in one Incubator wiki with prefixes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228745 (10jhsoby) >>! In T228745#535... [10:09:41] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE): Add chop() to the list of forbidden functions [tools/codesniffer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/550648 [10:47:39] (03CR) 10MaxSem: [C: 03+2] Add chop() to the list of forbidden functions [tools/codesniffer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/550648 (owner: 10Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE)) [10:48:01] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 10MediaWiki-General: Jenkins fails for mediawiki/core - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238197 (10Urbanecm) [10:48:12] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add chop() to the list of forbidden functions [tools/codesniffer] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/550648 (owner: 10Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE)) [10:51:02] random question, with T229934 resolved (thanks!) it means that 'gerritbot' can stop updating tasks via messages? I personally would love that [10:51:03] T229934: Enable semantic relationship between code review changesets and maniphest tasks in phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T229934 [10:51:12] maybe there's a task already that I'm missing [11:08:07] 10Release-Engineering-Team (CI & Testing services), 10Machine vision, 10Quibble, 10Wikidata, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.8; 2019-11-26): quibble-composer-mysql-php72-docker fails in MachineVision - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238055 (10hashar) >>! In T238055#5656328, @awight wrote: > I think the c... [11:40:34] 10Continuous-Integration-Infrastructure, 10Quibble: Composer-merge-plugin might be suppressing errors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238203 (10awight) [11:41:02] 10Release-Engineering-Team (CI & Testing services), 10Machine vision, 10Quibble, 10Wikidata, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.8; 2019-11-26): quibble-composer-mysql-php72-docker fails in MachineVision - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238055 (10awight) >>! In T238055#5659632, @hashar wrote: > I guess we wa... [11:53:26] 10Continuous-Integration-Infrastructure, 10Quibble: Composer-merge-plugin might be suppressing errors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238203 (10Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE) I tried it locally after reverting the WikibaseLexeme fix (03189c3ef2): ` $ composer update; echo $? > ComposerHookHandler::onPreUpdate... [13:36:44] (03PS1) 10Pwirth: layout, parameter_functions: Add BlueSpiceWikiExplorer [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/550680 [14:01:59] captions are done and depicts are running [14:52:50] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] layout, parameter_functions: Add BlueSpiceWikiExplorer [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/550680 (owner: 10Pwirth) [14:53:25] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: layout, parameter_functions: Add BlueSpiceWikiExplorer [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/550680 (owner: 10Pwirth) [15:07:12] !log Zuul: Add BlueSpiceWikiExplorer [15:07:13] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Release_Engineering/SAL [15:11:09] 10Phabricator: Escaped HTML entity (" -> ") in Phabricator search result - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238015 (10Aklapper) 05Open→03Declined Thanks for reporting this. This escaping is an intentional workaround for security reasons (if I remember correctly) and we do not plan to change the curren... [15:30:18] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 10BlueSpice: BlueSpice related tests fails on gate-and-submit-1.31 in quibble-composer tests - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235807 (10hashar) //There are some technical details at T224285#5216226// // + @awight since he had a similar use case for the DonationInterface ex... [15:30:35] (03CR) 10Hashar: [C: 04-1] "I went with explanations on T235807 , that sounded easier to handle that on the Phabricator task ;)" [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/550087 (owner: 10Robert Vogel) [15:31:38] 10Phabricator: Better track Kiwix & openZIM tickets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238223 (10Kelson) [15:39:34] 10Phabricator: Better track Kiwix & openZIM tickets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238223 (10ArielGlenn) Does it make sense to have a Kiwix project tag and a workboard where you (or colleagues) can keep track of relevant tickets by putting them in various columns? [15:41:23] 10Phabricator: Escaped HTML entity (" -> ") in Phabricator search result - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238015 (10Bugreporter) If this should happen in MediaWiki, it will be considered as a bug. The text is over-escaped. [15:43:19] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Local Dev), 10Core Platform Team, 10MediaWiki-Docker: Provide docker-compose based development enviornment in mediawiki core - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238224 (10kostajh) [15:47:17] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Local Dev), 10Core Platform Team, 10MediaWiki-Docker: Provide docker-compose based development enviornment in mediawiki core - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238224 (10dbarratt) There is a sample `docker-compose.yml` at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Docker/Hub#Using_for_Media... [15:50:57] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Local Dev), 10Core Platform Team, 10MediaWiki-Docker, 10Patch-For-Review: Provide docker-compose based development enviornment in mediawiki core - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238224 (10kostajh) >>! In T238224#5660541, @dbarratt wrote: > There is a sample `docker-compose.y... [15:52:01] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Local Dev), 10Core Platform Team, 10MediaWiki-Docker, 10Patch-For-Review: Provide docker-compose based development enviornment in mediawiki core - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238224 (10dbarratt) Why would the Dockerfile in core be for development and not production? [15:52:09] 10Continuous-Integration-Infrastructure, 10Quibble, 10Patch-For-Review: Composer-merge-plugin might be suppressing errors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238203 (10hashar) In #Quibble the composer update is run from the root of mediawiki/core which then uses the composer merge plugin which process the e... [15:52:12] 10Phabricator: Better track Kiwix & openZIM tickets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238223 (10Kelson) I have forgotten to write that, after discussing this topic with @Aklapper, it looks like a solution might be: * A dedicated tag "Kiwix & openZIM" * A dedicated workboard where we would be able to put the t... [15:52:49] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Local Dev), 10Core Platform Team, 10Patch-For-Review: Provide docker-compose based development enviornment in mediawiki core - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238224 (10dbarratt) Regardless, this seems out of scope for #mediawiki-docker (which perhaps should be renamed if this... [15:57:52] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Local Dev), 10Core Platform Team, 10MediaWiki-General, 10Patch-For-Review: Provide docker-compose based development enviornment in mediawiki core - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238224 (10dbarratt) [16:15:56] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Deployment services), 10Release-Engineering-Team-TODO, 10incubator.wikimedia.org, 10I18n: Allow creating an independent "incubator wiki" instead of hosting all new wikis in one Incubator wiki with prefixes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228745 (10StevenJ81) Well, wmincubat... [16:22:40] about 200 depicts left and that will be it for the day [16:29:26] 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure, 10CirrusSearch, 10Elasticsearch, 10Discovery-Search (Current work): Warning: Deprecated field [inline] used, expected [source] instead - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T237000 (10Gehel) 05Open→03Resolved a:03Gehel [16:40:53] 10Phabricator: Better track Kiwix & openZIM tickets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238223 (10ArielGlenn) If that is also the sense of your colleagues, I think you can just request the project tag like anyone else... and start using it once it's live! [17:05:25] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Local Dev), 10Core Platform Team, 10MediaWiki-General, 10Patch-For-Review, 10User-ArielGlenn: Provide docker-compose based development enviornment in mediawiki core - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238224 (10ArielGlenn) [17:10:47] depicts done, that's all for today [17:15:12] 10Phabricator: Better track Kiwix & openZIM tickets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238223 (10Aklapper) I'd propose creating a tag called `#affects-Kiwix-and-openZIM` (similar to #affects-translatewiki.net vs #translatewiki.net), to (hopefully) make clear that this is NOT meant to report issues with Kiwix i... [17:15:20] 10Project-Admins: Better track Kiwix & openZIM tickets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238223 (10Aklapper) [17:18:59] 10Phabricator: Escaped HTML entity (" -> ") in Phabricator search result - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238015 (10Aklapper) Nobody said that it is //not// a bug. :) It is a bug in our downstream code. We do not plan to fix this bug due to its maintenance costs. [17:21:01] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Local Dev), 10Core Platform Team, 10MediaWiki-General, 10Patch-For-Review, 10User-ArielGlenn: Provide docker-compose based development enviornment in mediawiki core - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238224 (10kostajh) > Why would the Dockerfile in core be for development an... [17:33:19] (03PS2) 10Jeena Huneidi: Documentation for how to contribute to local-charts [releng/local-charts] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/546319 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236587) [17:46:21] Just trying to make sure I understand https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments correctly: [17:46:23] a) Next week there is going to be a normal train? [17:46:30] b) The week after that, "We will branch and deploy to group0 on Tuesday the 26th" but no deploys November 27–29. What's the plan for group1 and group2? [17:47:54] PROBLEM - Parsoid on deployment-mediawiki-parsoid10 is CRITICAL: connect to address 172.16.0.141 and port 8000: Connection refused [17:47:54] PROBLEM - Parsoid on deployment-parsoid09 is CRITICAL: connect to address 172.16.5.63 and port 8000: Connection refused [18:21:26] JohanJ: actually, no train next week, we're at a team offsite [18:22:28] I thought it was on wiki already, sorry it's not [18:22:32] thcipriani: ^ [18:23:15] edited [19:09:25] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Local Dev), 10Patch-For-Review, 10User-ArielGlenn: Provide docker-compose based development enviornment in mediawiki core - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238224 (10kchapman) Believe this isn't a CPT thing doesn't belong in MW core should probably be a separate repo. We think... [19:14:43] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 10Wikimedia-Technical-Conference-2019: Unconference: [Workshop] I'll help you replace Travis with Actions for GitHub-mastered repos - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238244 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:31:10] 10Project-Admins: Better track Kiwix & openZIM tickets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238223 (10Kelson) @Aklapper Looks good to me. Thx. [19:45:07] @greg-g Thanks. [19:45:53] What's the plan for group1 and group2 the week after that? [20:03:54] JohanJ: from the wiki (but I'll add more flavor after the paste ;) ) [20:03:57] Week of November 25th [20:03:58] We will branch and deploy to group0 on Tuesday the 26th [20:04:00] November 27–29 - No deploys, US Thanksgiving (28-29) [20:04:41] so, branch + group0 Nov 25, then catching up the week after. Point it mostly so we only have at most 2 weeks worth of pent up changes [20:05:24] OK, thanks. It was the week after thing I was missing. (: Everything's clear now. [20:07:54] yup, thanks JohanJ [20:19:42] 10Phabricator: Fix Research component tags to make them non-mutually-exclusive - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238258 (10leila) p:05Triage→03High [20:19:56] 10Phabricator, 10Research: Fix Research component tags to make them non-mutually-exclusive - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238258 (10leila) [20:20:49] 10Project-Admins, 10Research: create tags for Research - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228350 (10leila) Thanks, @Aklapper! I created a task at T238258 and formally submitted my change request. [20:34:15] (03Abandoned) 10Jforrester: Edit Project Config [wikimedia/security] (refs/meta/config) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/483174 (owner: 10Rush) [20:34:34] (03Abandoned) 10Jforrester: Edit Project Config [wikimedia/security/automated-scanning] (refs/meta/config) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/483175 (owner: 10Rush) [20:39:39] 10Deployments, 10Gerrit, 10Phabricator, 10Release-Engineering-Team, 10ReleaseTaggerBot: Deployment status indicator for gerrit patches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88136 (10mmodell) >>! In T88136#5648060, @Krinkle wrote: > To resolve this task, perhaps it could be extended to, in addition to the... [20:50:51] hm, hiya, not sure if anyone is there but... [20:51:03] i'm making an extension that uses a new mediawiki config [20:51:25] i'd like to provide validation for that config , and run it as a test whenever mw config is changed [20:51:37] ideally in jenkins becausee of patch to mediawiki-config [20:52:09] should I just implement this as a phpunit test in my extension, or should I implement it as a library function in my extension, and somehow call it from mediawiki-config CI setups? [21:52:10] 10Phabricator, 10Research: Fix Research component tags to make them non-mutually-exclusive - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238258 (10Aklapper) [21:58:23] 10Phabricator, 10Research: Fix Research component tags to make them non-mutually-exclusive - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238258 (10Aklapper) After a night of sleep I think it might be easier and faster if I archived the subprojects, created the milestones, and silently mass-moved the tasks accordingly,... [22:02:10] 10Phabricator, 10Research: Fix Research component tags to make them non-mutually-exclusive - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238258 (10leila) >>! In T238258#5661865, @Aklapper wrote: > After a night of sleep I think it might be easier and faster if I archived the subprojects, created the milestones, and sil... [22:49:51] 10Release-Engineering-Team (CI & Testing services), 10Wikimedia-Technical-Conference-2019: Unconference: [Workshop] CI counselling session - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238275 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [23:57:22] 10Phabricator, 10User-Josve05a: My profile picture on Phabricator looks wierd - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235348 (10Aklapper) 05Open→03Stalled [23:59:49] 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure, 10GrowthExperiments, 10Growth-Team (Current Sprint), 10User-Urbanecm: Undefined variable: wgGERestbaseUrl in CommonSettings-labs.php - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238011 (10MaxSem) 05Open→03Resolved Confirm it's fixed.