[00:43:40] 10Deployments, 10Release-Engineering-Team (Yak Shaving 🐃🪒): Yak:Train stats - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281307 (10thcipriani) via @mmodell: * patch revisions/code review events * max patch dependency tree depth/total dependent patches [01:19:57] !log Cherry-picking https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/performance/navtiming/+/682886 in beta, should only affect deployment-webperf11. [01:19:59] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Release_Engineering/SAL [04:55:06] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Doing), 10GitLab (Initialization), 10User-brennen: Remove Speed & Function blockers for GitLab work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T274458 (10brennen) [04:55:32] 10Gerrit, 10GitLab (Initialization), 10User-brennen: Provide Speed & Function rough numbers for our current Gerrit web traffic - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T275564 (10brennen) 05Open→03Resolved Got this resolved in chat. Log slicing, for future reference: `lang=bash #!/bin/bash grep '^@cee' acc... [07:00:16] (03PS2) 10Hashar: jjb: properly delete rawSeleniumVideoGrabs dir [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/683051 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T249268) [07:01:18] (03CR) 10Hashar: [C: 03+2] jjb: properly delete rawSeleniumVideoGrabs dir [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/683051 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T249268) (owner: 10Hashar) [07:02:43] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: jjb: properly delete rawSeleniumVideoGrabs dir [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/683051 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T249268) (owner: 10Hashar) [07:06:02] 10Continuous-Integration-Infrastructure, 10Release-Engineering-Team (Doing), 10Patch-For-Review, 10Technical-Debt: Reduce size of artifacts stored on the CI Jenkins master - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T249268 (10hashar) 05Open→03Resolved And that should be good now! :] [07:19:16] !log contint2001: sudo -u jenkins find /srv/jenkins/builds/mediawiki-fresnel-patch-docker -name "*trace.json" -exec gzip {} \+ # T249268 [07:19:19] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Release_Engineering/SAL [07:19:19] T249268: Reduce size of artifacts stored on the CI Jenkins master - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T249268 [07:26:04] !log contint2001: sudo -u jenkins find *quibble* -path '*/archive/log/rawSeleniumVideoGrabs/*' -delete [07:26:06] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Release_Engineering/SAL [07:26:10] !log contint2001: sudo -u jenkins find *quibble* -path '*/archive/log/rawSeleniumVideoGrabs/*' -delete # T249268 [07:26:13] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Release_Engineering/SAL [07:26:13] T249268: Reduce size of artifacts stored on the CI Jenkins master - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T249268 [07:45:07] 10Gerrit, 10Release-Engineering-Team, 10Gerrit-Privilege-Requests, 10LDAP-Access-Requests: Disable Gerrit user Mdhollo - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281291 (10hashar) 05Open→03Resolved a:03hashar The theory is we can disable the account in wikitech/ldap. There is an account in wikitech https:/... [07:46:46] Quick question: what are the import sources defined in meta? [07:46:51] * the beta cluster? [07:46:58] Are they the same for every wiki? [07:49:41] 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure: Add en.wikibooks in Beta Cluster import - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281333 (10Leaderboard) [07:55:28] 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure: Add en.wikibooks in Beta Cluster import - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281333 (10Leaderboard) [08:11:22] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 10Release-Engineering-Team (Doing): CI job mw-tools-codesniffer-mwcore-testrun fails on clean run - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267150 (10hashar) 05Open→03Resolved The job passes now, I apparently just forgot to mark this resolved. Regarding lack of cache: it is on... [08:34:02] 10Continuous-Integration-Infrastructure, 10Tracking-Neverending: Have unit tests of all wmf deployed extensions pass when installed together, in both PHP-Zend and HHVM (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69216 (10hashar) [08:47:38] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 10Release-Engineering-Team (CI & Testing services), 10Release-Engineering-Team-TODO, 10Patch-For-Review, 10Test-Coverage: Switch mediawiki code coverage from xdebug to pcov - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T234020 (10hashar) [08:47:46] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 10Release-Engineering-Team (CI & Testing services), 10Release-Engineering-Team-TODO, 10Patch-For-Review, 10Test-Coverage: Switch mediawiki code coverage from xdebug to pcov - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T234020 (10hashar) I note that the MediaWiki core code coverage... [08:49:01] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 10Release-Engineering-Team (CI & Testing services), 10Release-Engineering-Team-TODO, 10Patch-For-Review, 10Test-Coverage: Switch mediawiki code coverage from xdebug to pcov - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T234020 (10kostajh) >>! In T234020#7041017, @hashar wrote: > I... [08:56:10] CI is going to be restarted entirely due to hardware reboot [09:11:10] CI is fully back [09:12:25] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Deployment Training Requests): Deployment training request for **xSavitar** - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281309 (10xSavitar) [09:12:28] Leaderboard: to answer your question: you should be able to import from all beta projects in beta. enwikibooks and eswikibooks are the only beta wikibooks, so... :) [09:16:04] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Deployment Training Requests): Deployment training request for **xSavitar** - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281309 (10Urbanecm) Maybe I'm missing something, but you don't seem to currently be a member of any of the common NDA-only groups (https://ldap.toolforge.org/user/d3r1ck01... [09:18:04] 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure: Add en.wikibooks in Beta Cluster import - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281333 (10Urbanecm) I'm not sure what's the requested change. You should be able to import from all beta projects, and that appears the case – there are only two wikibooks in beta (English, and Spanish). I... [09:20:06] 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure: Add en.wikibooks in Beta Cluster import - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281333 (10Zabe) >>! In T281333#7041102, @Urbanecm wrote: > I'm not sure what's the requested change. You should be able to import from all beta projects, and that appears the case – there are only two wiki... [09:22:56] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Deployment Training Requests): Deployment training request for **xSavitar** - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281309 (10xSavitar) @Urbanecm, I think there is a little mix-up there in terms of user names. My Wikitech username is: **Alangi_Derick** and I've used that to sign the LDAP... [09:26:31] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Deployment Training Requests): Deployment training request for **xSavitar** - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281309 (10Urbanecm) Aha, multiple email addresses is what confused me :). ` urbanecm@tools-sgebastion-07 ~ $ ldapsearch -x 'mail=alangiderick@gmail.com' | grep uid dn: ui... [09:29:52] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Deployment Training Requests): Deployment training request for **xSavitar** - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281309 (10xSavitar) Thanks for double checking :) [09:32:37] Urbanecm: oh, so to clarify, it is not possible to import from the production version of any site? [09:43:15] Leaderboard: I don't know an easy way. The file that's used for beta is https://github.com/wikimedia/operations-mediawiki-config/blob/master/wmf-config/import.php, if you're wondering [09:44:57] 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure: Add en.wikibooks in Beta Cluster import - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281333 (10Leaderboard) >>! In T281333#7041117, @Zabe wrote: >>>! In T281333#7041102, @Urbanecm wrote: >> I'm not sure what's the requested change. You should be able to import from all beta projects, and t... [10:35:45] 10Jenkins, 10SRE: tox-docker CI test doesn't pick up overrides for pylint - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281347 (10MoritzMuehlenhoff) [10:47:25] 10Phabricator, 10serviceops, 10User-brennen: Phabricator intermittently slow; db connection failures to m3-master.eqiad.wmnet with "Temporary failure in name resolution" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T279013 (10LSobanski) Removing the #DBA tag and subscribing myself instead. Once there are specific act... [11:17:16] (03CR) 10Lars Wirzenius: [C: 03+2] Remove redundant -i ansible/hosts args [tools/train-dev] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/682981 (owner: 10Ahmon Dancy) [11:17:20] (03CR) 10Lars Wirzenius: [V: 03+2 C: 03+2] Remove redundant -i ansible/hosts args [tools/train-dev] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/682981 (owner: 10Ahmon Dancy) [11:19:42] (03CR) 10Lars Wirzenius: [C: 03+2] mirror-repos.sh: Add --archive option [tools/train-dev] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/683087 (owner: 10Ahmon Dancy) [11:19:44] (03CR) 10Lars Wirzenius: [V: 03+2 C: 03+2] mirror-repos.sh: Add --archive option [tools/train-dev] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/683087 (owner: 10Ahmon Dancy) [11:20:16] (03CR) 10Lars Wirzenius: [C: 03+2] Add quotes around a string to make my syntax highlighter happier [tools/train-dev] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/683096 (owner: 10Ahmon Dancy) [11:20:18] (03CR) 10Lars Wirzenius: [V: 03+2 C: 03+2] Add quotes around a string to make my syntax highlighter happier [tools/train-dev] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/683096 (owner: 10Ahmon Dancy) [11:21:22] (03CR) 10Lars Wirzenius: [C: 03+2] Rename setup to initialize-mediawiki-staging [tools/train-dev] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/683097 (owner: 10Ahmon Dancy) [11:21:24] (03CR) 10Lars Wirzenius: [V: 03+2 C: 03+2] Rename setup to initialize-mediawiki-staging [tools/train-dev] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/683097 (owner: 10Ahmon Dancy) [11:22:23] 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure, 10Beta-Cluster-reproducible, 10User-Majavah, 10User-zeljkofilipin: Cannot login to beta cluster: "There seems to be a problem with your login session..." - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263617 (10AlexisJazz) Appears to work again, thanks Majavah! [11:39:35] (03CR) 10Lars Wirzenius: [C: 03+2] Rename prep to scap-prep-mw-branches [tools/train-dev] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/683098 (owner: 10Ahmon Dancy) [11:39:37] (03CR) 10Lars Wirzenius: [V: 03+2 C: 03+2] Rename prep to scap-prep-mw-branches [tools/train-dev] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/683098 (owner: 10Ahmon Dancy) [11:58:32] Why does https://login.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/ give a 403 unlike production? [11:59:27] good q [12:01:26] httpd/unix-directory/403 [12:01:29] https://login.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page works though [12:01:40] so looks like something in the apache configs [12:03:25] hm, loginwiki apache config is missing the apache rule for / which other sites have [12:08:41] Majavah: I want to change the en.wiki main page to route the links to beta rather than production, and same for loginwiki. How can I do that? [12:09:16] Because it's kind of odd to get mixed up between beta and production if you ask me. [12:10:24] _joe_: in your commit https://github.com/wikimedia/puppet/commit/ade0f3043b38b0cb4215f26669c8d68c27c9765c loginwiki apache config was changed to have public_rewrites => false, do you happen to remember why? [12:12:24] <_joe_> Majavah: I just reproduced what was in https://github.com/wikimedia/puppet/commit/ade0f3043b38b0cb4215f26669c8d68c27c9765c#diff-591be53fc9d6c5da600ea96965bd5038b0ed727879dc758e756d594c83544f59 I guess :) [12:13:23] _joe_: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/operations/puppet/+/28a266729a4d392fabc6122007ac59dd47f24aec/modules/mediawiki/templates/apache/mediawiki-vhost.conf.erb#43 says that it controls /, /robots.txt, etc, which were in that file [12:13:49] Leaderboard: https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Wikipedia%27s_sister_projects&type=revision&diff=489932&oldid=369840&diffmode=source [12:14:26] Majavah: thanks, however some of them don't exist, such as mediawiki.beta [12:14:39] so it has to be specific, like wikidata's beta project [12:14:56] Leaderboard: species and mediawiki do not exist, but I'd rather not mix them [12:15:21] Oh OK, just noting because whenever I click them, I get a security warning (should that be fixed)? [12:15:30] Saying that the website is unsafe... [12:17:06] NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID [12:17:15] <_joe_> Majavah: yes, that setting doesn't make sense I would say :) [12:20:04] _joe_: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/683267 [12:55:02] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Seen), 10Scap, 10SRE: find a way to systematically update the deployment server name across all repos - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197470 (10hnowlan) This issue reoccured when we moved to deploy1002 for a bunch of services that use `deploy-local` for initial deployments vi... [12:55:22] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Seen), 10Scap, 10SRE: find a way to systematically update the deployment server name across all repos - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197470 (10ArielGlenn) Just ran into this today on an install of new snapshot1011,12,13: got the dreaded ` Apr 28 11:47:52 snapshot1011 puppet... [13:12:07] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Doing), 10Release, 10Train Deployments: 1.37.0-wmf.3 deployment blockers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T278347 (10LarsWirzenius) New blocker {{T281361}} [13:22:06] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Seen), 10Scap, 10SRE: find a way to systematically update the deployment server name across all repos - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197470 (10hnowlan) I also see the above with `--refresh-config` added: ` root@snapshot1011:~# sudo -u dumpsgen /usr/bin/scap deploy-local --r... [13:33:18] Can someone improve the main page of loginwiki? I know it's not a big thing but it's still confusing when a default notice comes up again. [13:33:32] (I would simply copypaste the production version) [13:36:52] lol [13:46:32] Hi, I would like to briefly test translationadmin. Is it possible for me to get translationadmin (and admin) for a very short period on Meta? I cannot do this on Wikibooks since translate does not exist. Sorry for being repetitive in my requests, I'm just running experiments. [13:46:41] This can be temporary. [13:48:23] * not admin, just translationadmin [13:52:06] sure, done [13:52:54] 10Gerrit, 10Release-Engineering-Team, 10Gerrit-Privilege-Requests, 10LDAP-Access-Requests, 10SRE: Disable Gerrit user Mdhollo - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281291 (10Mholloway) Ah, that Gerrit account was associated with the LDAP account `hollowlog`, which can also be disabled. Thanks again! [14:32:37] Majavah: could you fix the links in simple beta? (better still, is there a way I can do this myself without having to bug you all the time as I run tests?) [14:51:35] 10Project-Admins: Request Project (cfssl-pki) for pki tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281371 (10Reedy) [15:22:00] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: jjb: Add pipeline-based jobs for mediawiki/libs/metrics-platform [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/679968 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T279180) (owner: 10Mholloway) [15:22:02] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: Zuul: [mediawiki/libs/metrics-platform] Add pipeline-based CI jobs [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/683356 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T279180) [15:25:20] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] jjb: Add pipeline-based jobs for mediawiki/libs/metrics-platform [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/679968 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T279180) (owner: 10Mholloway) [15:25:34] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] Zuul: [mediawiki/libs/metrics-platform] Add pipeline-based CI jobs [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/683356 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T279180) (owner: 10Jforrester) [15:27:02] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: jjb: Add pipeline-based jobs for mediawiki/libs/metrics-platform [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/679968 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T279180) (owner: 10Mholloway) [15:27:24] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Zuul: [mediawiki/libs/metrics-platform] Add pipeline-based CI jobs [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/683356 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T279180) (owner: 10Jforrester) [15:27:36] !log Zuul: [mediawiki/libs/metrics-platform] Add pipeline-based CI jobs T279180 [15:27:38] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Release_Engineering/SAL [15:27:38] T279180: Add CI jobs for mediawiki/libs/metrics-platform - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T279180 [15:33:23] (03PS1) 10Ahmon Dancy: Update deploy.yml after script renames [tools/train-dev] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/683359 [15:35:05] (03CR) 10Lars Wirzenius: [C: 03+2] Update deploy.yml after script renames [tools/train-dev] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/683359 (owner: 10Ahmon Dancy) [15:35:08] (03CR) 10Lars Wirzenius: [V: 03+2 C: 03+2] Update deploy.yml after script renames [tools/train-dev] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/683359 (owner: 10Ahmon Dancy) [15:57:06] 10MediaWiki-Releasing, 10MW-1.36-notes, 10MW-1.36-release: Release 1.36.0-rc.0 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T279462 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [15:57:08] 10MediaWiki-Releasing, 10MW-1.36-notes, 10MW-1.36-release, 10Platform Team Workboards (Initiatives): Release MW 1.36.0 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T279455 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [16:12:43] patch is up on the branch for the train blocker [16:12:51] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/683143 [16:16:00] addshore, excellent! [16:16:36] I'm hoping someone can backport it and that longma can drag train back to group1 in the US train window in a few hours [16:21:43] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Logspam), 10Growth-Team, 10PageCuration, 10JavaScript, and 3 others: PageTriage extension causes TypeError: format.replace is not a function in randomToken function im SearchSatisfaction schema - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T272904 (10Jdlrobson) [16:23:56] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Logspam), 10Growth-Team, 10PageCuration, 10JavaScript, and 2 others: PageTriage extension causes TypeError: format.replace is not a function in randomToken function im SearchSatisfaction schema - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T272904 (10Jdlrobson) The last release of DateJs... [16:27:31] i was pinged there is a need for a backporter. addshore, liw, may i help in any way? [16:28:27] Urbanecm: ohia, it would be https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/683143 [16:28:29] Urbanecm, T281361 is the current train bloakcer [16:28:29] T281361: TypeError: Argument 2 passed to Wikibase\Client\DataAccess\Scribunto\WikibaseLanguageIndependentLuaBindings::trackUsageForSitelink() must be an instance of Wikibase\DataModel\Entity\ItemId, instance of Wikibase\MediaInfo\DataMo - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281361 [16:28:40] addshore: okay, cool. Let's move to -operations? [16:28:45] yar [16:48:29] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Deployment Training Requests): Deployment training request for **xSavitar** - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281309 (10thcipriani) p:05Triage→03Medium a:03thcipriani Hey @xSavitar you should have an invite to the Google meet on 2021-04-29...I am now going to add a "date I wo... [17:20:56] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Yak Shaving 🐃🪒): Add tooling to pgp-public-keys.git to make using and maintaining it easier - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T279051 (10LarsWirzenius) Initial thought: one key per person, with all signatures. Signatures merged automatically: add new sig in new file, run make, gets... [17:22:45] 10Deployments, 10Release-Engineering-Team (Yak Shaving 🐃🪒): Yak:Train stats - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281307 (10thcipriani) via @LarsWirzenius * Number of times rolled back since previous train [17:25:23] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Yak Shaving 🐃🪒): Add local-charts to mw-cli - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281391 (10jeena) [17:28:59] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Yak Shaving 🐃🪒): Add tooling to pgp-public-keys.git to make using and maintaining it easier - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T279051 (10LarsWirzenius) a:03LarsWirzenius [17:29:47] (03CR) 10Ori.livneh: [C: 03+2] Start branching ChessBrowser [tools/release] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/682028 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244075) (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [17:30:14] (03CR) 10Ori.livneh: "Whoops, did not mean to +2 -- James, can you pull the trigger on this?" [tools/release] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/682028 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244075) (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [17:30:43] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Yak Shaving 🐃🪒): pipeline-promote: Add patch author as reviewer to promote patch - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281392 (10jeena) [17:31:56] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Yak Shaving 🐃🪒): pipeline-promote: Add patch author as reviewer to promote patch - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281392 (10jeena) [17:34:15] 10Phabricator, 10Release-Engineering-Team (Seen), 10Security, 10User-MModell: Deprecate phabricator's fixed_settings.yaml (in puppet) and just use phabricator's built in configuration tools - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239355 (10thcipriani) [17:52:03] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Yak Shaving 🐃🪒), 10MediaWiki-Release-Tools, 10User-brennen: branch.py: Convert deleted wmf branches to tags - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250095 (10Krinkle) What value do we hope to get from having these tags, indefinitely? I suppose it would offer to know that a certain pa... [17:54:05] Hi, could I perhaps get meta admin on the beta cluster? I want to work on a few filters (for reference, I have AFH globally and have worked on filters in the past, some successfully). Thanks in advance. [17:54:25] Since I also do experiments cross-wiki, it would help if I could do them myself, but this is not necessary. [17:54:33] *global [17:54:52] Leaderboard can you file a phab ticket that I can reference? [17:55:12] OK [18:01:02] 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure: Cross-wiki rights on beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281396 (10Leaderboard) [18:01:13] DannyS712: wrote one above, does this work for you? [18:02:02] 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure: Cross-wiki rights on beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281396 (10Leaderboard) [18:02:08] it doesn't say what right you're requesting. Also " I've been running cross-wiki tests on the beta cluster and was wondering if I could do them myself" <-- if you're already running them, can't you already do it yourself? Just say you want meta sysop [18:02:42] DannyS712: actually no. For one, I couldn't edit the main page of simple or en.wiki [18:04:39] okay. Just say you want meta sysop and I can grant [18:06:33] DannyS712: while talking about beta rights, can I have a 2o on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281239 [18:07:34] 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure: Global developer for Zabe on beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281239 (10DannyS712) +1 from me, active developer and trusted on production wikis [18:08:51] DannyS712: I'll do that, but my question is that whether I should request a global right that will cover meta (looking at the GlobalGroupPermissions, "Global sysops" seems to be the weakest permission that covers meta? But again I don't know whether you prefer that or requesting meta sysop. [18:09:10] I'm just trying to avoid having to bug others - but don't want to be breaking any rules if there are any. [18:09:40] 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure, 10User-Majavah: Global developer for Zabe on beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281239 (10Majavah) 05Open→03Resolved a:03Majavah ` (change visibility) 21:08, 28 April 2021 Majavah talk contribs block changed global group membership for User:Zabe from (none) to develo... [18:10:25] I don't think there are any rules - Majavah thoughts? I'm fine with granting GS or meta admin [18:10:45] +1 [18:11:55] Or "steward" but that may put you in unease [18:14:14] (since userrights does not exist in GS - but I leave this up to you two to decide) [18:14:17] if you have a use case for that I'd be willing to consider that, but unless there is one I'd prefer to go with something that does not have full access to group and user management [18:15:54] but if you have an actual use case it's not a big deal to get those on beta, I got my `global-developer` by just asking something like "can I have that so I can try to test things" [18:16:11] Majavah: my main "use case" for userrights would be to test with my alternate account (Leaderbot) and also test the "abusefilter-privatedetails" right since that does not appear to work on a production MediaWiki instance [18:17:24] AF does not store private data on beta by design [18:17:35] it does work on prod I believe, its just the equivalent of CU and won't work on beta [18:17:53] Majavah i'll leave it up to you, I'm going back to coding [18:18:08] have fun [18:18:21] Oh, does it not? I didn't know that, might explain why my prod instance does not work with that right (it does nothing). [18:18:32] * prod = non-WMF; [18:19:05] CU and that are disabled on beta [18:19:09] But then I have CU on that prod instance, so that's weird [18:19:56] no idea [18:19:58] but anyways [18:20:00] But thanks - in which case my main use-case would be to run userright tests on Meta and elsewhere (for instance, test CentralNotice) [18:24:16] 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure, 10User-Majavah: Cross-wiki rights on beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281396 (10Majavah) 05Open→03Resolved a:03Majavah After chatting with Leaderboard and DannyS712 on IRC I went ahead and granted +steward, given there is a valid use case (testing things, w... [18:24:19] I granted +steward [18:24:25] Ok thanks very much Majavah [18:24:44] please do any rights changes and global actions from meta if possible [18:25:04] OK got it. [18:25:15] Does that involve changes crosswiki? [18:26:24] ideally yes, you can use `Username@databasename` on special:userrights, where database name is something from https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=dblists/all-labs.dblist [18:29:30] I found something weird: if you assign a non-existient right using userrights-interwiki, it apparently succeeds and is logged, which I think is odd [18:30:00] would have expected an error [18:30:11] what right? Link to log entry please [18:30:23] (03PS3) 10Jforrester: Start branching ChessBrowser for Wikimedia production [tools/release] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/682028 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244075) (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [18:30:37] if this is assigning a none existinte group, its because the group list is based on the wiki you're assigning from, not the remote one, and its a known bug [18:30:41] DannyS712: https://meta.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=112341 [18:30:49] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] Start branching ChessBrowser for Wikimedia production [tools/release] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/682028 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244075) (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [18:30:57] I think it's the bug you have described indeed from what it sounds [18:33:03] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Start branching ChessBrowser for Wikimedia production [tools/release] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/682028 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244075) (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [18:33:06] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T14518 [18:33:51] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 10Better Use Of Data, 10Product-Data-Infrastructure: Add CI jobs for mediawiki/libs/metrics-platform - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T279180 (10Jdforrester-WMF) Is this Resolved? [18:35:19] "Error: An edit conflict for this user was detected. Please verify your change and try again. [18:35:19] " = ? [18:35:26] When global locking an account [18:48:25] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Doing), 10Release, 10Train Deployments, 10User-brennen: 1.37.0-wmf.4 deployment blockers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281145 (10thcipriani) [19:08:06] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 10Better Use Of Data, 10Product-Data-Infrastructure: Add CI jobs for mediawiki/libs/metrics-platform - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T279180 (10Mholloway) 05Open→03Resolved Yes, thank you, @Jdforrester-WMF! [19:19:22] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Deployment Training Requests): Deployment training request for **xSavitar** - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281309 (10xSavitar) Hi @thcipriani, thank you for the invite. I've accepted it and looking forward to the session :) [19:46:03] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Doing), 10Patch-For-Review, 10Release, 10Train Deployments: 1.37.0-wmf.3 deployment blockers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T278347 (10jeena) [21:40:31] 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure, 10Jade: Undeploy JADE extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281418 (10Peachey88) [21:40:56] 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure, 10Jade: Undeploy JADE extension from beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281418 (10Peachey88) [21:41:15] 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure, 10Jade, 10User-Ladsgroup: Undeploy JADE extension from beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281418 (10Ladsgroup) a:03Ladsgroup [21:41:48] 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure, 10Jade, 10User-Ladsgroup: Undeploy JADE extension from beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281418 (10Ladsgroup) It probably includes not branching it anymore too.