[00:12:47] YuviPanda: Ironholds: thank you for your suggestions, I ended up installing a pugin for sublime that does an rsync to the remote on any "save event" [00:14:20] nice [00:14:23] or, just use linux ;) [00:34:31] SSHFS FTW [00:40:33] halfak, SSHFS? [00:40:49] SSH File System. [00:41:02] It allows you to mount a remote machine in a folder on your machine. [00:41:18] e.g. I have ~/remote/stat3/ [00:41:51] It means that any text editor or R or whatever can just not worry about the fact that the data/code is remote [00:46:27] oh, gotcha [00:46:34] I have gigolo which sooorta does that. [00:46:39] I mean: sublime recognises it. [00:47:23] gigolo? [00:47:34] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigolo [00:49:37] http://mylinuxbook.com/gigolo/ [00:49:43] it should really have an article. ah well. [00:50:23] OHHHHH [00:50:25] That thing. [00:50:33] I did not know it was called gigolo [00:50:39] But yeah. basically the same thing. [06:05:28] * Ironholds twiddles thumbs [10:35:55] halfak: yeah, sshfs is awesome [11:19:16] mornin' [11:19:19] hey YuviPanda [11:19:24] hi Ironholds [11:19:30] how goes? [11:20:36] Ironholds: not too bad [11:20:44] * YuviPanda ran into the EDL last saturday [11:20:45] awesome! [11:20:47] ew [11:20:48] that wasn't too much fun [11:20:55] can I cheer you up with an amusing image? [11:20:59] one of them came at me with a bottle as well [11:21:07] I guess they didn't like me walking around with Alice [11:21:09] Ironholds: sure! [11:21:15] you have mail! [11:21:34] hahaha [11:21:35] :D [11:21:36] context: I joked that we should have 'stop using 'uplevel'' as a goal in our QR. Aaron told me to put a slide in. [11:21:38] so I put a slide in [11:21:45] :) [11:21:46] and I came back an hour later to find Toby and Dario had found it...and filled it out [11:21:53] like: when I left it, it just had a title [11:21:54] I love my team [11:22:04] * YuviPanda suggests adding a slide for 'stop using the word "learnings"' [11:22:19] we tend not to use that Bad Word [11:22:54] I heard it once from J-Mo [11:23:14] also 'Global South' [11:23:31] That word pisses Theo off tremendously. [11:23:39] mind you, /I/ piss Theo off tremendously, so. [11:24:19] ah [11:24:32] I piss Theo off tremendeously too, apparently [11:57:46] just one of your many virtues [11:59:43] * YuviPanda pats Emufarmers [12:52:51] Hey folks [12:53:27] hi halfak [12:57:40] hey halfak! :) [12:57:59] you know what I recently found out that's horrifying me? [12:58:08] Federal minimum wage is $7.25 right? [12:58:10] This: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBCzREson1A [12:58:15] ...except for workers with jobs that tip [12:58:20] They get $2.13. [12:58:51] Arkansas puts it as high as $2.63, but only for employers with >4 employees. [12:58:55] Yeah. Depends on the state. In MN, they are guaranteed the federal minimum, but if you get enough tips, you can make more. [12:58:57] this place makes me so sad sometimes. [12:59:27] halfak, goat sounds similar to ghost. Allow me to introduce you to Oakland hip-hop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLvlGVNInw4 [13:00:37] What am I watching? [13:01:57] you're watching the quintessential Hyphy song [13:02:02] it's the west coast version of crunk [13:02:29] amusingly, the musician in question, following the birth of his daughter, found enlightenment and became a rather fantastic social commentary hip-hop dude [13:02:45] see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yReU5a8_FUI [13:07:51] Not bad. I didn't realize that social conscience had become a genre though. [13:08:41] socially conscious hip-hop sorta has. Which is depressing, y'know? [13:08:52] I mean, what other genre has a subgenre where the boundaries are "they give a shit" [13:11:20] Seems to be worth celebrating until it becomes ... more effectively monetized. [13:11:55] heh [13:12:02] hey, it has financially successful artists [13:12:13] Lupe, Mos Def/Talib Kweli [13:12:25] ...others, that I can't think of. [13:16:11] OK. Time to go to the airport. [13:16:32] I'm going to show up at 9AM for a 1PM flight so that I can do all my morning meetings from the terminal. Weeee. [13:16:51] s/Weeee/Booo [13:17:18] nice! [13:17:26] have fun in...that place. that you're going to. [13:17:34] Something about cheese? Cheese is definitely coming to mind. [13:17:41] University of Michigan. [13:17:57] I'm flying into Detroit and being driven to Ann Arbor. [13:18:07] * halfak runs away. [13:18:08] o/ [13:18:09] ahyes! [13:18:13] byeee! Safe flight. [16:17:19] Hey kevinator, hows the office. Everyone a bit stressed or is there a cool calm? [16:18:00] cool and calm… a little humor in the air [16:18:31] Toby’s wearing a sharp black button up shirt [16:18:56] Woot. Yay for cool and calm :) [16:19:06] * halfak feels like we're kicking butt this round. [16:20:16] halfak, yeah, we've got this. [16:20:35] I only know how to do two things: get shit done and be mean to people. [16:20:43] and I think y'all are lovely people, which only leaves one thing. [16:21:33] ok, i’m on my way up [16:21:40] to the conf room [18:18:17] did that go okay? I couldn't tell [18:23:02] another meeting? [18:23:09] you guys have so many some aren't bound to go well [18:23:42] YuviPanda: it was a quarterly review to ask why we haven't finished PV metricsx [18:23:47] ah [18:23:57] to which the reply is: ALL I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO IN THE LAST MONTH IS OTHER QUARTERLY REVIEWS. [18:25:22] heh [20:00:25] * YuviPanda waves at Ironholds [20:01:11] YuviPanda, BABY [20:01:33] Ironholds: I've no retort [20:01:51] baby's got (no come)back? aw [20:32:20] Ironholds: I wish we not only showed the success story of PV trends but also what happened to total edits and unique editors :-/ [20:34:27] DarTar, I wish a lot of things about the data in this presentation [20:35:03] * YuviPanda pats DarTar and Ironholds [20:35:51] DarTar, so...that's a new task. Joy. [20:36:05] :) [20:36:31] wait, I thought you said you had this already? based on the sampled logs [20:36:35] Ironholds: DarTar in the 'asks' for mobile apps you guys should put in '2 people do deal with analytics for mobile' [20:36:49] I have a cludgey, 3 month old codebase I wrote upside down in the back of a toyota driving through Montana at 80 [20:37:00] the data is /accessible/. We /can/ rebuild it. But it will take work. It's not free. [20:38:07] yay, glad lila caught it [20:38:15] DarTar: :) [20:38:25] DarTar, my friend Molly just found a solution to the comscore-tracks-unique-people,we-track-unique-clients problem [20:38:34] every time someone requests a page, have the front-facing camera send us a photo of them [20:38:40] use mechanical turkers to decide if they're all the same person [20:38:42] Ironholds: I hear you, and that’s why I keep reminding people that we need infrastructure not research for this [20:38:54] Ironholds: love it [20:38:57] DarTar, agreed. This is getting ridiculous. [20:39:13] "Oliver, why have you not implemented a robust solution to give us all our data automatically as and when we want it?" [20:39:34] I might just start shouting "DAMMIT JIM, I'M A RESEARCHER, NOT A SOFTWARE ENGINEER" at people and insisting everyone call me Doc [20:39:46] * YuviPanda calls Ironholds a doorstop [20:40:00] Ironholds: look at this that way, [20:40:40] the moment we ship a final, vetted PV metric defo, generating that data every 3 weeks is not going to be your job any more [20:40:47] yes [20:40:55] but, user agent parsing? That won't be in the vetted def initially. [20:41:03] session analysis? Totally different project. [20:41:23] how many grains of gunpowder were in the seventh shell fired by the German flagship at the Battle of Jutland? Totally different project. [20:41:30] 44? [20:41:31] it’s the same reason why I am excited about metrics standardization, it’s like cutting my beer money now and save for retirement [20:41:33] I might just create a trello card called "the wheel" and spend all my time on that. [20:41:42] if anyone asks I'm reinventing it. [20:42:04] YuviPanda, good guess, the correct answer was 117, also we no longer care about the answer and why aren't you providing us with data support. [20:42:16] :D [20:42:17] no, you should start creating a card every time you get the same exact request [20:42:30] A new one? I do that. [20:42:33] Gives me a sense of completion [20:42:42] and then we will add to the quarterly review a single item with 30 trello cards attached to it [20:43:17] * YuviPanda scraps plan to join the research team in 2y, realizes it is just filled with a lot of meetings and other teams that are fun to work with [20:43:24] DarTar, cunning [20:43:36] YuviPanda, but you get to spend those meetings with meeee [20:45:04] Ironholds: haha [20:45:26] you know what [20:45:30] this evening is going to be a takeout evening [20:45:33] and I don't even care [20:46:37] Ironholds: awww [20:48:09] Ironholds: we do have eventlogging for 'save', but not for 'access saved page' [20:48:40] aha [20:49:25] Ironholds: since, access saved page would probably be taken when offline, so no EL... [20:51:04] YuviPanda, plus, does saving pages mean "I have shitty internet" or does it mean "this is the closest thing I have to bookmarking" [20:51:18] Ironholds: we don't know [20:51:25] * YuviPanda fought a fair bit to keep saved pages out of the app [21:14:15] DarTar: oh god the axes... [21:14:46] SadPanda: what axes? [21:15:03] DarTar: previous graph, x axes was 0-200, y was 0-8000 [21:15:18] yeah [21:18:58] SadPanda: I was just discussing this with leila, the message about segregation is true, that plot is a poor way of backing the message with data [21:19:30] DarTar: yes, I took a *small* class on data analysis on coursera and the graphs all look sad to me [21:21:01] SadPanda: :) [21:21:29] SadPanda: you may want to share the class link the next time it's offered. [21:21:37] leila: it's in progress! [21:21:55] Ironholds: I like that, “mobile has a Thatcherite agenda” [21:22:19] DarTar, I'm not saying thatcherism is bad [21:22:48] I'm just saying that when she died, Ding Dong the Witch is Dead got to #2 in the charts. [21:22:59] leila: https://class.coursera.org/statistics-002 [21:23:03] we are a COLLABORATIVE Environment, or should be. [21:23:18] SadPanda, oh cool, I pointed daisy at that [21:23:26] Ironholds: is quite nice [21:23:33] the accompanying textbook is nice too [21:23:36] (and is free) [21:23:40] cool! [22:28:54] hey kevinator [22:29:00] we're calling the new pageviews system Count Logula [22:29:01] JFYI [22:29:07] you should change your slides/docs to reflect it. [22:47:12] Ironholds: :-p [22:47:26] I did a search for ‘count logula’ and ended up on ‘count dogula' [22:47:38] * Ironholds shakes head [23:38:13] DarTar, have you caffeinated? [23:38:17] because it's 7:40pm [23:39:53] Ironholds: I have now [23:40:08] off to find a roo [23:40:10] m