[00:05:48] ToAruShiroiNeko, I'm off to go shovel the snow, but I'll be back in about an hour. [00:16:13] Ironholds, is rev_sha1 a hash of IP in the revision table? [00:17:30] hash of the revision text! [00:17:37] it's a checksum [00:18:00] oww [00:18:10] that makes sense [00:59:07] ping ToAruShiroiNeko [13:47:12] morning [14:36:14] Ironholds eh? you changed timezones? :D [14:36:30] ToAruShiroiNeko, what? [14:40:10] arent you UK time? [14:40:22] should be afternoon there when you said morning :p [14:42:45] morning halfak :) [14:42:58] ToAruShiroiNeko, I mean, sure, up until I moved to the United States [14:43:00] two years ago ;p [15:09:45] Ironholds ah [15:09:46] I didnt know [15:10:09] To be fair Your nick implies you would keep an ironhold on your address :p [15:23:51] groan [15:23:56] my nick was the captcha when I signed up [15:31:21] oh? [15:31:24] wow [15:31:36] puppet agent -tv [15:31:37] err [15:31:37] you are fortunate it was that captcha [15:31:38] sorry [15:31:50] YuviPanda hello [15:31:54] heya [15:32:01] do you know anyone that would design a logo for our project? [15:32:08] ah [15:32:13] sadly no, sorry :( [15:32:50] ToAruShiroiNeko: hmm, Hay designed the Quarry logo [15:32:52] maybe he can [15:33:07] Hay Kranen [15:33:18] is this a wikimedia user? [15:34:11] yes, but I do not know his username [15:34:16] we met at wikimania [15:34:31] heh [15:34:41] g'morning Ironholds. Sorry was in meeting. [15:34:42] I'll email [15:34:47] oh hi halfak [15:34:52] sorry I missed you yesterday [15:34:54] Working with a new collaborator on the WikiCredit project. [15:35:00] Now worries ToAruShiroiNeko [15:35:08] but I suppose its a good thing you were shoveling snow instead of waiting for me :p [15:35:16] we should set up a shot of halfak similar to Hulk in the Avengers saying ‘I am always meeting' [15:35:42] YuviPanda, :P [15:35:43] halfak, that's okay! [15:35:53] YuviPanda, I dont think halfak has physical strength as his strong side [15:36:04] ToAruShiroiNeko: well, it was untransformed hulk who said it [15:36:08] :P I'm pretty good for my weight. [15:36:35] YuviPanda well... I do not think he is radioactive either. :p [15:36:40] ToAruShiroiNeko: yet [15:36:45] Actually the most radioactive people are smokers. [15:36:52] I’m sure one of his meetings will be inside a gamma ray chamber [15:37:11] YuviPanda with my luck I would be inside with him. :p [15:37:18] nice! [15:37:25] I eat bananas sometimes. They are radioactive [15:38:16] they are barely radioactive :p [15:38:35] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRL7o2kPqw0 [15:41:50] ToAruShiroiNeko, did you get a chance to look through my notes? [15:42:00] http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/intro_to_revscores [15:42:43] oh yes [15:43:15] Can you use ORES instead of Revscores ? [15:43:37] Hmm.. I thought that revscores is the project and ORES is the system. [15:44:11] revscores is the title of the project yes [15:44:21] but since its a conference using the brand name maybe better [15:44:27] not that either way is vital [15:44:38] people will want to type less to find the url [15:44:49] its easier to lin for irc bots too [15:46:41] Hmm... What changes do you propose? [15:48:50] I think Portugese and Turkish should be mentioned [15:48:55] that we intend to start with those [15:49:04] and perhaps azerbaijani too [15:49:32] you dont mention the multi-classification task we have in mind (for article class) [15:50:04] multi-classification task? [15:52:56] ToAruShiroiNeko, ^ [15:53:15] yes [15:53:24] multi-class classification task [15:53:34] where we classifiy if an article is start, A class B class featured etc [15:53:50] Oh! We only have 10 minutes with no time for questions. [15:53:52] the type of vandalism these recieve should differ from class to class [15:54:02] right but it could be briefly mentioned [15:54:10] So I think it's most important that we get the idea across than all the bits. [15:54:32] I'm not sure how that will help our audience think about our project. [15:55:08] if you wish, I think it may help them consider that the problem isnt as simple as two binary classification tasks. :/ [15:56:01] I think most of are audience doesn't know what "two binary classification task" means [15:56:07] So they won't see it as simple [15:56:49] Also, the multi-class classifier is previous work. [15:56:58] That one in particular anyway. [15:58:24] okay [15:58:33] I thought it was more technical I suppose [15:59:30] See http://opensym.org/wsos2013/proceedings/p0202-warncke.pdf for the work that User:Nettrom did [16:02:48] well fine :/ [16:05:09] halfak overal it gets the idea out well [16:05:26] :) [16:05:32] * halfak has slipped into the next meeting [16:51:15] halfak slipping out? [16:51:28] in 10 minutes. [16:51:51] Kay. [16:59:35] halfak, hi -- the meeting with Helder is going to happen now? [16:59:49] we are in :p [16:59:58] o/ jonas_agx yes. It's starting in a minute. Would you like to join us? [17:00:38] yes, i would ./ halfak [17:01:56] hey jonas_agx! :-) [18:02:54] Ironholds, standup [18:34:58] Ironholds, do you want to attend Oozie? [18:35:51] If I do I will have eight meetings today :/ [18:36:03] I'm going to take an hour to try and get some code review done [19:02:34] halfak, where can I find the test you did of how GettingStarted compares in different projects? [19:04:06] Ironholds, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Onboarding_new_Wikipedians/Rollout [19:04:27] ta [19:32:56] Where can I see a plot of the comscore unique counts data, I forget? [19:33:43] stats.wikimedia.org [19:33:46] first plot [20:15:26] Hey guys, do you know if this is still the right etherpad for RD2014 stuff? http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/RD2014 [20:15:42] ewulczyn, leila, Ironholds ^ [20:50:41] halfak, that's the only one I know. [20:50:55] kk. Just checking. I'm filling in links and stuff now. [20:51:01] halfak, just to make sure, you've seen the doc file Toby has shared right? [20:51:22] Yup. Went through, added notes and proded comms. [21:41:24] Ironholds: free now? [22:05:06] tnegrin, sorry, was in meeting with Anna! Gimme two minutes to get some water? [22:05:32] I'm on a call -- 30 mins? [22:06:23] totally [22:38:12] tnegrin, around when you are [22:42:13] hi J-Mo [22:42:31] hi fhocutt. what's up? [22:43:06] do you know who I'd talk to about figuring out what mailserver to use for sending emails from the MatchBot script on labs? [22:43:33] I've been looking through the docs and asked on #wm-labs, but haven't found anything I can use yet [22:44:52] I don't. Other than sending emails through cron, I'm not sure how you do it. [22:45:17] are you thinking of sending emails to users (if they have email enabled), or is this just about logging? [22:45:28] just logging [22:45:46] I'm not sure how you do that with cron and jsub though--jsub sends stderr to the job.err file, not to stderr afaict [22:46:32] fhocutt… does this help? https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Tool_Labs#Email [22:48:10] sort of, but I'd still probably end up with some sort of shell script that looked at diffs of the .err file and emailed if it had changed [22:48:26] I'd really rather be able to email out the errors themselves if possible [22:48:46] yeah, that's what I figured. you want to know more than just "job started"… "job completed" [22:48:58] exactly. [22:48:59] I just sent you two emails I got from "root" [22:49:53] right, I was seeing what jsub would email out [22:50:09] (I added myself to the cron email, sorry for spam there) [22:50:21] but errors still go to job.err [22:51:17] yeah. I guess maybe a separate script that parses the err and out files, and is triggered after each job, to tools.hostbot@wikimedia? [22:52:00] that's a lot of extra code and email spam, tho [22:52:47] I could put something like that together as a hack [22:53:20] do you know anyone who works on labs who I could ask for more info? [22:53:33] maybe YuviPanda? He has his hands in everything. [22:54:01] he's in the chan, but may not be watching right now [22:54:55] cool, will try [22:54:57] thanks! [22:55:12] also andrewbogott [22:55:30] * fhocutt notes [22:56:11] ty!