[01:32:57] 10Quarry: Add 'download in HTML format' option (Quarry) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117644#1780562 (10XXN) 3NEW [01:35:17] 10Quarry: Add 'download as wikitable' option (Quarry) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117645#1780573 (10XXN) 3NEW [01:39:10] 10Quarry: Add chat or forum (Quarry) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117647#1780591 (10XXN) 3NEW [01:42:19] 10Quarry: Add chat or forum (Quarry) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117647#1780601 (10Legoktm) You can use IRC. [01:43:18] 10Quarry: Add chat or forum (Quarry) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117647#1780604 (10yuvipanda) There's no Quarry specific IRC channel, and I think there should be a link to whatever it is from Quarry itself. I'll also try to get a Flow board created for this. That seems useful. [09:04:27] 10Quarry: Add 'download in HTML format' option (Quarry) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117644#1781007 (10Aklapper) Please provide a specific usecase example describing what you would like to accomplish. [09:04:31] 10Quarry: Add 'download as wikitable' option (Quarry) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117645#1781008 (10Aklapper) Please provide a specific usecase example describing what you would like to accomplish. [15:19:47] o/ [15:22:52] o/ [15:22:58] g'morning guillom [15:22:59] :) [15:23:37] Hello halfak & the world. [18:09:08] Hi is it Leila? [18:10:13] Hello halfak, this is Bei Yan from University of Southern California. [18:10:34] o/ BeiYan [18:10:55] I was going to give you a bit of a tour of IRC, right? [18:11:08] Yes! Exactly! [18:11:20] Hi BeiYan. [18:11:21] :-) [18:11:22] My colleague Ruqin is here too. [18:11:24] Hi Aaron, I am Ruqin. Would also like to join the tour ;-) [18:11:29] Hey! [18:11:46] So, if you would join me in #wikimedia-en, I think that is a good place to start [18:11:54] hi ruqinren. [18:12:01] Hi Leila! It is funny because we are here to talk to Aaron, amazing to see you here too! [18:12:42] OK, how do we join it? [18:12:51] HiHi leila! Nice to see you here! [18:13:37] * halfak waits in #wikipedia-en [18:13:43] Woops! [18:13:50] Looks like I typed it wrong earlier [18:13:54] It's #wikipedia-en [18:14:08] *m-->p [18:20:43] halfak is the first person to ever make that mistake [18:21:55] Totally ;) [18:26:00] So, BeiYan & ruqinren, you see how you can move between channels. [18:26:15] And that channels perform specific functions. [18:26:19] Yes. Oh and there's a ping when my name is mentioned [18:26:20] Now, for logs. [18:26:32] Not all channels are publically logged, but many are. [18:26:48] E.g. this channel is publicly logged here: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-research/ [18:27:02] o/ wm-bot4 [18:27:06] ^ our logger [18:27:20] Also a bot so it doesn't know how to say Hi. [18:27:32] Haha [18:27:43] I also see stashbot [18:27:47] what's that for? [18:27:56] #wikipedia-en does not have logs? [18:28:03] Not sure what stashbot is doing. Might be a human. [18:28:36] BeiYan, yes. That seems ot be right. [18:28:43] No public logs for wikipedia-en [18:29:02] It's somewhat common. It's good that some silly thing you say isn't necessarily saved for eternity. [18:29:11] OK. One last thing to show you. [18:29:18] That's true hah [18:29:23] There are a lot of lists of IRC channels that are relevant to Wikipedia stuff. [18:29:25] Here's one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IRC [18:29:40] This one is another: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Channels [18:30:22] Just to give you a sense for what (I assume) is common behavior. I'm currently in 20 channels [18:30:50] How can we check if there are logs for the channel? [18:30:52] Wow haha [18:31:00] Check the topic [18:31:05] It will almost always be noted [18:31:11] It really *should* be noted [18:31:39] Make sense :) [18:31:52] After we use client we may be able to check the topic right? [18:32:02] I can check it now [18:32:42] My channels: #huggle, #mediawiki-visualeditor, #wikimedia-ai, #wikimedia-analytics, #wikimedia-collaboration, #wikimedia-commtech, #wikimedia-design, #wikimedia-dev, #wikimedia-kawaii, #wikimedia-labs, #wikimedia-mobile, #wikimedia-office, #wikimedia-operations, #wikimedia-research, #wikimedia-tech, #wikipedia-snuggle, #wikiprojectx, #wmhack, #wpmentorship [18:33:02] BeiYan, you can see it at the top of the page when you use the web UI [18:33:40] +halfak a question. What does the plus sign before your name represents? Admin? [18:33:53] I have "voice" in the room. [18:33:59] Oh I see! [18:34:06] Technically, it means that if we lock down the channel, I can still talk. [18:34:28] Practically, I use it to signal the locals who should be able to help you with anything related to Wikimedia Research. [18:34:34] We never lock down the channel [18:34:51] #wikimedia-kawaii is the only important one on that list [18:34:54] Anwyay, as I said over email, this is the office for me. I log into IRC when I start my work day. We usually say good morning and good bye at the end of the day. Feel free to reach out to me by *pinging* me -- saying "halfak". [18:34:55] :D [18:35:37] +1 Emufarmers. Very important on the rough days./ [18:36:08] halfak, thank you very much! This is very helpful. We need to more observation and research on ourselves and will reach you when we have questions! [18:36:26] Cool. Good luck and make sure to have fun too :) [18:36:46] Thanks! [18:37:01] I am having fun haha. Already feeling the friendly atmosphere in the community [18:38:52] halfak, thank you and have a wonderful day! [18:38:59] you too o/ [18:39:10] o/ <-- waving guy, btw [18:39:48] leila, nice to see you here. Hope to see you soon [18:41:02] nice to see you, too, BeiYan. [18:41:05] see you around. [18:41:46] halfak, o/ <-- beginning to adapt to the channel's conversation style haha [18:41:55] :D [18:42:07] you will be assimilated [18:42:29] :D [18:45:46] Emufarmers, #wikimedia-kawaii is such a kawaii channel :D [22:47:13] I'm reading a text published a couple of months ago that states that it's "still" not very common to see peer-reviewed research quoted in Wikipedia ... referring to Finn Årup Nielsen's paper from 2007. [22:47:26] Do we have any good up-to-date numbers of that? [22:48:28] leila: do you also take a drink every time someone says 'global south'? :) [22:48:37] (just spotted it on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113443) [22:48:45] haha, totally, YuviPanda. [22:49:19] at some point abartov was talking to me in person and accidentally said 'global south' and bam I actually had a beer in hand already. it was great :) [22:49:30] FIGHT AGAINST ALCOHOLISM! DO NOT SAY "GLOBAL SOUTH!" [22:49:38] :D [22:49:39] hahaha! :D [22:58:10] I remembered the information I was looking for in my question a few minutes ago was to be found in http://arxiv.org/pdf/1506.07608.pdf by the way, so no need to spend any time on answering it. :) [22:58:48] * YuviPanda waves at JohanJ too [22:59:28] Hi. :) [23:08:39] YuviPanda: what are your thoughts on Mattermost with authentication via OAuth? [23:08:53] brb in the middle of breaking things [23:24:27] harej: back! [23:24:37] harej: I think it'll be great, although I also thinkt hey should have a 'no registration needed' modfe [23:24:39] *mode [23:24:43] even better [23:24:45] harej: but I am also worried now that they'll end up being open core [23:24:53] i am thinking we could have channels for wikiprojects [23:24:55] where 'advanced' features end up in a pai dversion [23:24:55] easier than IRC [23:24:58] yeah definitely [23:25:04] I'm going to setup a more robust setup in 2 weeks [23:25:19] when 1.2 comes out [23:25:27] I already have one team that wants to use this instead of hangouts [23:25:31] i agree that no-login-needed would be good, but *if* you want to authenticate you can do so over OAuth [23:25:33] would you like me to notify yout oo? [23:25:36] yeah +1 [23:26:10] how would we differentiate between logged out and authenticated? would logged out people have some kind of anonymous name? [23:28:15] no idea [23:28:19] it's a fair bit off [23:28:22] there's an IRC frontend too [23:28:34] so I'd guess they'll have a GUID as their 'name' and whatever nick they choose as nickname [23:28:41] and if they register they get full functionality [23:40:00] 10Quarry: Add 'download in HTML format' option (Quarry) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117644#1784169 (10yuvipanda) I suppose in addition to the CSV, TSV, JSON and JSON-Lines format the reporter would like 'HTML' as a download format as the results as well. [23:40:36] 10Quarry: Add 'download as wikitable' option (Quarry) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117645#1784170 (10yuvipanda) I suppose in addition to the CSV, TSV, JSON and JSON-Lines format the reporter would like 'wikitable' as a download format as the results as well.