[08:24:08] <vev>	  #libreidea is looking for voluntary devs to work on http://www.libreidea.org/Collaborative_keywords_mixing
[13:48:07] <halfak>	 o/
[13:48:52] <Amir1>	 halfak: o/
[13:48:59] <halfak>	 Hey Amir1 
[13:49:11] <halfak>	 I saw your work with Amire80 on Wikilabels. :) 
[13:49:21] <Amir1>	 \o/
[13:49:35] <Amir1>	 he is helping with our translatewiki work
[13:49:51] <Amir1>	 I guess scap3 would be more complicated than I thought
[13:50:17] <Amir1>	 It doesn't have arbitrary commands 
[13:50:22] <Amir1>	 doesn't support virtualenv
[13:51:07] <Amir1>	 I made some changes in the scap branch
[13:51:27] <halfak>	 "doesn't support virtualenv" -- why would it need to support virtualenv?  Can we not execute arbitrary commands?
[13:51:48] <Amir1>	 we can't
[13:51:58] <Amir1>	 I checked 
[13:52:51] <Amir1>	 *but* the biggest problem here is that a very few services use scap3 so we don't have anything to learn from, docs are not enough in such cases
[13:55:32] <Amir1>	 my guess is that we need to do it via puppet
[13:56:00] <Amir1>	 (I just checked restbase deployment configs)
[13:56:27] <Amir1>	 yuvi can help us
[14:01:04] <halfak>	 Amir1, have you been asking around in -releng?
[14:01:31] <Amir1>	 yes, I was told to make phab card
[14:01:36] <Amir1>	 and I did
[14:02:25] <halfak>	 Can you make that a blocker on our deployment and I'll make sure this comes up at the next SoS. 
[14:03:11] <Amir1>	 yeah sure
[14:03:26] <Amir1>	 but let's see if I can make a workaround using puppet
[14:03:58] <Amir1>	 If we can do it via puppet that would be much easier
[14:04:07] <halfak>	 Amir1, what do you mean? 
[14:04:47] <Amir1>	 building virtualenv and installing pip packages using puppet modules instead of fabric/scap3
[14:05:09] <Amir1>	 It's maybe a very dumb suggestion. I don't know much about puppet
[14:05:14] <halfak>	 Amir1, we need to at least install the packages using scap3 since they'll be updated with new deployments. 
[14:06:15] <halfak>	 But this does sound very difficult. 
[14:07:15] <Amir1>	 scap3 is in python so we can make a patch asap
[14:09:06] <halfak>	 scap3 is python!
[14:09:08] <halfak>	 WoooT!
[14:09:19] <halfak>	 scap3 better support venv then!
[14:09:33] <halfak>	 It's the only reasonable way to deploy python
[14:15:52] <Amir1>	 halfak: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130205
[14:16:14] <Amir1>	 we are talking that whether this task is a valid one or not
[14:16:20] <Amir1>	 feel free to chime in