[17:19:36] 10Quarry: Queries hang when results have duplicate column names - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191904#4120880 (10MMiller_WMF) [17:24:28] 10Quarry: Queries hang when results have duplicate column names - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191904#4120903 (10zhuyifei1999) [17:24:32] 10Quarry: Quarry cannot store results with identical column names - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170464#4120906 (10zhuyifei1999) [17:25:37] 10Quarry: Quarry cannot store results with identical column names - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170464#4120909 (10MMiller_WMF) Thanks @zhuyifei1999 -- I hadn't noticed that I was making a duplicate. [17:27:43] 10Quarry: Quarry cannot store results with identical column names - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170464#4120916 (10zhuyifei1999) It's okay. If we could just somehow fix this... [18:09:28] hey dsaez. I'm looking at T184212. Is the text you prepared in the etherpad to appear in users' talk pages? [18:09:28] T184212: Gather labels as ground truth for section translation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T184212 [18:10:10] * dsaez double-checking [18:12:37] leila: yes. I think is ok. [18:12:54] I'm asking because it's a bit long. [18:13:05] Let me try to shorten it by giving link to the instructions in the spreadsheet itself. [18:20:10] dsaez: can you review? [18:20:25] dsaez: I tried to keep it short as this will be on their talkpages. [18:20:57] leila, yes looks good, so we will need to do two translations, the message and the instructions. [18:21:10] correct. [18:21:30] dsaez: I'm thinking the instructions we should put back to back in the same tab in the spreadsheet, right? [18:21:31] have you deleted the instructions :? [18:21:41] otherwise we have to adjust that for every language pair which is nightmarish. [18:21:54] dsaez: I did, but because they are in the spreadsheet, no? [18:21:57] sounds ok. [18:22:21] dsaez: you can use the timeslider on the top right hand side of the etherpad to retrieve them if you want to go back. [18:22:25] leila: yes and no, I have reformated/summarized a bit. [18:22:26] ok [18:22:30] oooo [18:22:38] do you want me to restore? [18:23:04] no no [18:23:08] timeslider is ok. [18:23:08] :P [18:23:19] I forgot about that :D [18:23:26] ok, then please update the master instructions. :D [18:24:27] unexpectedly, etherpads can be a nice tool [18:24:44] it's great. I like the relatively no fuss nature of it. [18:25:03] leila: how do we proceed with the translation? [18:25:06] it's not very good for comments and discussions. [18:25:13] true [18:25:19] dsaez: I'd say check with Dario if he approves the budget for it. [18:26:01] dsaez: also note that they didn't say in the email /when/ they can give it to you. I bet soon, but please double-check that at some point with them. [18:26:19] (The price is worth it, it will save us and volunteers from a lot of hassle and back-and-forths.) [18:27:11] dsaez: who will be the point of contact? [18:28:25] leila: are you volunteering me? [18:28:44] quiddity: do you by any chance have 15-min some time today to check https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/InstructionsForSectionMapping and let us know if we are missing something major that we should say? (the message is intended to go to talk page messages.) Is VP notice encouraged for this kind of thing? [18:28:56] dsaez: only if you can't wait. [18:29:23] eeeh [18:29:34] :D [18:29:40] accepted. [18:32:58] ok, should I put my email or Talk page? [18:33:56] leila, btw, it would make sense to use profesional translation for some subset of sections, just to use it as gold standar to compare with community translation? [18:34:10] leila, will look after lunch PST, yeah. [18:34:27] dsaez: I'd say put your username. [18:35:26] dsaez: we can. The issue is that while they may do a good job doing general translations, without knowing the WP context I'm not sure how good the quality of their translations can be in this context. (the same issue we were seeing with some of the machine translations.) [18:43:38] thanks quiddity. [19:41:55] leila, I've removed the {{ping}} which isn't needed when posting directly to a usertalkpage. VP notice isnt needed as this is the intended usage of babel boxes. If you can add a link to the relevant project page (e.g. "For background info and goals see [this page]") then that would be good. Otherwise seems good. [20:05:50] quiddity: thanks. will do that.