[11:17:50] <lzia>	 hello dsaez. qq: for synonym mapping file, can you check if you can remove the lock on Instructions?
[11:18:11] <dsaez>	 remove lock...
[11:18:13] <dsaez>	 hmmmmmmmmmm
[11:18:14] <lzia>	 dsaez: it seems the lock make it impossible for people to scroll down and see the instructions in other languages. (I'm assuming there are instructions)
[11:18:16] <dsaez>	 let me see
[11:19:11] <dsaez>	 lzia: instructions are there, and I don't see any lock
[11:19:32] <lzia>	 dsaez: hmm. in Synonym mapping?
[11:19:39] <dsaez>	 ooh
[11:19:41] <dsaez>	 synonym
[11:19:41] <lzia>	 :D
[11:19:44] <dsaez>	 no
[11:20:29] <dsaez>	 there are no instructions in other languages, we decide to contact people one by one, from our 'ego-networks', so we assume that they would read english
[11:21:02] <lzia>	 dsaez: you're right. then all good I think.
[11:24:38] <lzia>	 dsaez: I can't make any change in the locked cell. Can you check your email? Quiddity has a suggestion to make it more readable. If you can fix that, that'd be great. (I'm going to send it to arwiki folks now anyway)
[11:25:48] <dsaez>	 lzia: lzia, I can protect, but not unprotect
[11:27:19] <dsaez>	 lzia, I changed, try to edit now
[11:28:29] <dsaez>	 lzia, do you how to add a breakline? enter does not work
[11:28:46] <dsaez>	 nor enter+shift
[11:28:54] <dsaez>	 I hate spreadsheets! 
[11:28:55] <dsaez>	 sorry
[11:28:58] <lzia>	 dsaez: I usually go to the formula on top and then do enter there. 
[11:29:01] <dsaez>	 need to say :D
[11:29:10] <lzia>	 I can't make it work in the cell itself either. and yes. :D
[11:30:52] <dsaez>	 lzia, check now
[11:42:10] * lzia checks
[11:44:13] <lzia>	 dsaez: I don't see the beginning of the sentence anymore. do you? :D
[11:44:49] <dsaez>	 lzia, which sentnce?
[11:46:51] <lzia>	 I don't see Hi, :) for example.
[11:46:56] <lzia>	 it's there, but it's hidden.
[11:54:20] <lzia>	 dsaez: hopefully they can read now. it's not ideal on mobile/desktop but I /think/ is readable now. agree?
[11:54:38] <dsaez>	 it's ok, i think
[18:04:25] <halfak>	 o/ ragesoss 
[18:04:41] <halfak>	 I just added you to the showcase backchannel via your wikiedu account.  Does that work?
[18:04:51] <halfak>	 Amir1, you should be in there too 
[18:04:51] <ragesoss>	 yes
[18:04:55] <halfak>	 Great!
[18:05:29] <halfak>	 Platonides, you're welcome to join us in the hangout (that will be broadcast on youtube) or to just be part of the discussion here.  Let me know what you would prefer. 
[18:11:16] <halfak>	 ragesoss, do you want to share your screen for your 5 minutes?
[18:11:23] <ragesoss>	 halfak: yes
[18:11:38] <halfak>	 OK I'll make sure that who-ever is "driving" knows that is coming.
[18:13:22] <halfak>	 I'm probably going to mis-pronounce "Platonides"
[18:13:46] <halfak>	 "Pla TON idEES" 
[18:14:01] <halfak>	 "PLA to nids"
[18:18:17] <ragesoss>	 PLA to NI dis ?
[18:24:49] <miriam>	 hello research channel! Research showcase starting in 5! stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1pa-pr6xis
[18:25:33] <miriam>	 I'll be taking your questions for the speakers today. Please direct them to me!
[18:25:51] <miriam>	 ciao tizianop :)
[18:26:09] <tizianop>	 ciao miriam! :D
[18:26:35] <DarTar>	 hey tizianop 
[18:26:58] <halfak>	 Stream is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7cHxlGgEt4
[18:27:03] <halfak>	 Last URL posted was wrong!
[18:27:05] <miriam>	 sorry wrong url, thanks halfak!
[18:27:10] <halfak>	 Topic is now correct :) 
[18:27:17] <mutante>	 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Plato#Pronunciation  (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Platon#Latin)  +  https://www.quora.com/In-Greek-what-does-the-ides-suffix-mean
[18:28:05] <mutante>	 but wiktionary is missing the entry for "-ides" and the .ogg with the pronounciation :/  
[18:32:28] <miriam>	 hi all, please direct any questions to the speakers to me!
[18:51:41] <DarTar>	 great to see all these false positive reports, sounds like an opportunity to build a dedicated reporting UI. Oh wait!
[18:59:15] <halfak>	 Thanks ragesoss!  
[18:59:17] <halfak>	 That was great
[18:59:39] <ragesoss>	 thanks! twas fun!
[18:59:57] <halfak>	 +1 Dario :D  
[19:00:07] <halfak>	 https://mediawiki.org/wiki/JADE
[19:01:10] <halfak>	 BTW paper pre-print link: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ORES_-_Facilitating_re-mediation_of_Wikipedia%27s_socio-technical_problems.pdf
[19:05:12] <Platonides>	 people also end up reading a lot of wikipedia pages unrelated to their original base article :P
[19:08:13] <DarTar>	 Platonides: true that, this study only looks at the page on which a banner is displayed and a donation has occurred, which may occur in the context of vastly different browsing sessions
[19:09:22] <Platonides>	 I was thinking on the result of the 2014 paper
[19:09:32] <Platonides>	 regarding "people visit what they like"
[19:12:32] <awight>	 I'm trying to respond to a YouTube comment but can't--maybe someone can relay to vmasrour that the ORES/Support table has been deprecated by a dynamic display, here: https://tools.wmflabs.org/ores-support-checklist/
[19:12:48] <DarTar>	 ah thanks awight 
[19:13:05] <DarTar>	 keep forgetting we also have people there
[19:13:28] <miriam>	 YT channel is very active today, DarTar
[19:13:40] <DarTar>	 ha, I’m missing out
[19:14:35] <awight>	 It's a grimy, noisy, walled garden.
[19:14:49] <DarTar>	 :)
[19:15:57] <ragesoss>	 Question: 10-fold increase in pageviews leads to 2.6-fold increase in donations... so, less popular articles are far more valuable on a per-view basis versus highly popular articles? Niche vs. mainstream? Narrow vs. broad?
[19:17:01] <halfak>	 ragesoss, interesting interpretation.  miriam ^
[19:17:05] <miriam>	 got it , ragesoss
[19:17:08] <halfak>	 :D
[19:19:21] <DarTar>	 page length is also a very interest predictor, which I suspect is related to in-page navigation behavior and how banners are affected by it
[19:19:28] <DarTar>	 *very interesting
[19:22:07] <DarTar>	 miriam: I have a q for Aaron and one for Gary, but will give priority to people in the audience
[19:22:29] <miriam>	 ok, DarTar, thanks!
[19:25:08] <halfak>	 https://ores.wikimedia.org/v3/scores/
[19:25:31] <Amir1>	 Also http://tools.wmflabs.org/ores-support-checklist/
[19:26:14] <halfak>	 Thanks Amir1  :) 
[19:26:14] <awight>	 +1 Amir1's new tool ^ is a top bookmark suggestion :)
[19:26:27] <awight>	 (I
[19:26:42] <awight>	 (I've copied an arcane link into the YouTube comment stream as well)
[19:30:44] <Giovanni_Luca>	 Hello
[19:31:05] <miriam>	 aloha Giovanni_Luca!
[19:31:59] <Giovanni_Luca>	 I am afraid I missed both talks...?
[19:32:24] <Giovanni_Luca>	 miriam: :)
[19:32:26] <ragesoss>	 Giovanni_Luca: yes.
[19:32:34] <Giovanni_Luca>	 :-/
[19:35:30] <DarTar>	 Giovanni_Luca: catch them on YT
[19:36:05] <Giovanni_Luca>	 +DarTar: doing right now, thx :)
[19:41:04] <halfak>	 \o/ GOod show
[19:41:08] <halfak>	 Thanks all. 
[19:41:25] <DarTar>	 great showcase today, y’all 
[19:41:41] <brendan_campbell>	 thanks all
[19:41:42] <ragesoss>	 so that was the mystery research that took Fundraising by surprise. SUPER interesting and provocative.
[19:41:50] <miriam>	 Thanks all, very very interesting!
[19:41:55] <Platonides>	 nice work by the presenters
[19:43:02] <DarTar>	 ragesoss: indeed. The collaboration was set up some time ago and remained silent for a while, until it suddenly got fresh attention
[19:43:37] <DarTar>	 thanks for driving brendan_campbell
[19:43:52] * DarTar goes offline to grab a sandwich
[19:44:20] <ragesoss>	 My takeaway would be to double down on the kinds of support that content contributors in 'task-oriented' areas need, and to build reader-oriented tools to help readers discover those topics (rather than investing in banner differentiation by article type)
[19:44:36] <ragesoss>	 in other words, more resources for ORES.
[19:44:37] <ragesoss>	 ;)
[19:44:52] <halfak>	 \o/
[19:45:15] <halfak>	 We need some people who work near ORES to study work processes to support. 
[19:45:22] <halfak>	 And the effect that ORES' models have. 
[19:45:37] <halfak>	 I'm hoping to pull in someone in July to do something like that. 
[19:47:27] <halfak>	 OK first break of the day.  
[19:47:45] <halfak>	 Woops.  Let me put the topic back first!
[22:24:55] <nuria_>	 bmansurov: hola
[22:25:08] <nuria_>	 bmansurov: one question about your EL schema