[00:18:18] J-Mo: o/ [00:18:31] ciao bmansurov [00:18:47] J-Mo: it looks like we'll need to wait about 35 mins to see the change. [00:18:47] are we live on beta? [00:19:08] no prob. will the quicksurvey pop up on every page? or only on designated pages? [00:19:14] J-Mo: I have to go, but if you're around you can see the survey at https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Book for example [00:19:25] J-Mo: it should load on all article pages [00:19:52] J-Mo: I'll check tomorrow. Have fun with testing and reporting any issues. [00:20:07] cool. I'll refresh that page in about half an hour, and keep refreshing until I see it. How should I report any issues I find? Phab? Email? [00:20:27] J-Mo: here https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209882 [00:20:32] a comment would be great [00:20:43] will do [00:20:52] thanks bmansurov! Have a good night [00:20:56] J-Mo: also, you may want to hard refresh [00:21:04] got it [00:21:04] Hold shift and then click on the refresh button [00:21:08] thanks, and you too [14:19:31] bmansurov good morning! I wasn't able to preview the QuickSurvey on Beta last night, unfortunately. It never loaded :( [14:19:53] I'm taking today off sick, but will be checking in at my keyboard periodically. Let me know if you figure out the error? [14:20:10] J-Mo: morning. Sorry about that. I'm talking to ops people about why it didn't load. [14:20:29] J-Mo: Sure, I'll let you know once it's fixed. [14:20:30] no problem. we've got time [14:20:36] cool [14:21:04] J-Mo: hope you feel better soon. [14:21:12] ty my friend [14:35:25] J-Mo: I'm going to deploy a fix at 7pm EST. I'll ping you once it's live. [14:35:44] awesome bmansurov [18:33:29] dsaez: meeting? [18:33:55] yes 1 min [18:47:06] 10Quarry, 10Patch-For-Review: Quarry should refuse to save results that are way too large - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188564 (10zhuyifei1999) p:05High>03Unbreak! This is getting [[https://tools.wmflabs.org/nagf/?project=quarry|ridiculously bad]] with queries like https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/... [18:55:12] 10Quarry, 10Patch-For-Review: Quarry should refuse to save results that are way too large - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188564 (10zhuyifei1999) quarry-worker-02 was practically dead. [19:21:54] hi quiddity [19:22:00] o/ [19:22:04] hey lzia [19:22:39] quiddity, lzia, just for the record, there are 1399 articles in namespace 0, in English Wikipedia contaning a section title 'X' (literally X) [19:22:47] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Texas_state_parks [19:22:47] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Choate_Rosemary_Hall_alumni [19:22:47] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_one-word_stage_names [19:22:47] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Virgin_Records_artists [19:22:48] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_franchises [19:22:51] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_Suriname-related_articles [19:22:53] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_on_the_postage_stamps_of_Czechoslovakia [19:22:55] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_Seychelles-related_articles [19:22:57] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_waste_management_acronyms [19:22:59] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Windows_3.x_games [19:23:02] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Yo-yo_world_champions [19:23:04] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government_schools_in_New_South_Wales:_Q–Z [19:23:05] :D [19:23:06] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shopping_malls_in_Bangkok [19:23:08] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_artists_under_the_Avex_Group [19:23:10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_on_the_postage_stamps_of_Saint_Kitts [19:23:13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aestheticians [19:23:15] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_aerospace_engineering_articles [19:23:17] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Belgian_beers [19:23:19] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PC_games_(X) [19:23:21] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_As_the_World_Turns_characters [19:23:26] just some examples :D [19:23:27] nod, makes sense. (I hope you're not linking all 1399 of them! ;D ) [19:23:30] hehe [19:23:30] we need to find a way to filter that, but it's not a parsing error [19:23:31] bring it on. ;) [19:23:44] I can continue >D [19:24:05] we might not consider sections title with less than one character [19:24:24] but I'm not sure how this work in some asian languages [19:24:25] less than 2* ;) [19:24:35] dsaez quiddity maybe excluding all List_of type articles can be a solution. [19:24:46] but how you do this interlingual_ [19:24:47] ? [19:24:50] dsaez: List of ... usually contains things that will be hard to map [19:25:05] dsaez: category network ;) [19:25:08] hahaha [19:25:12] rolf [19:25:17] I'm not even kidding. :D [19:25:22] * lzia thinks about other options. [19:25:51] maybe we should exclude articles with more than N sections [19:26:30] dsaez: there is no wikidata property for lists, no? [19:26:38] hmmm [19:26:43] let me see [19:26:48] i have 1399 examples [19:27:15] ;) [19:27:34] (btw, I'm in wikicite and slow, I will also leave this channel with no notice.) [19:27:52] for list yes, but as usual it's far from perfect. For index no [19:28:03] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6018785 [19:28:05] dsaez: how about https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P360 ? [19:29:01] lzia, yep, but check the example that I've sent [19:29:31] dsaez: are you referring to the fact that it doesn't have P360? [19:29:40] yes [19:30:09] dsaez: it's okay as long as we make it transparent that we will look at this property, then the community knows in order to improve the results, they can improve wikidata. [19:30:28] dsaez: I'm not giving up on other ways, yet, though, so let's think more. [19:30:59] lzia, link density + number of sections might be a good solution [19:31:16] dsaez: which link density? [19:31:38] number of links vs text lenght [19:32:06] more refined: number of characters in inside [ ] vs total number of characters in the article. [19:32:42] dsaez: yeah. if it's close to 100% ... good. :) [19:33:20] yep, we can prove that using articles that have the P360:Q13406463 [19:33:25] dsaez: it seems the same P360 is used for indexes as well? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q495728 [19:34:06] I've found both cases, I'm not sure about the quality of Wikidata items props for underesourced languages. [19:34:39] meaning that we would give worst alignments for those langs. [19:35:42] anyhow, I'm even not sure that this would be real problem beyond the evaluations. Users wont query for these sections, and also the recSys might be smart enough to don't recommend such sections [19:40:35] ebernhardson hi [19:49:24] I've just sent you an email :) [20:04:07] dsaez: unfortunately, i'm going on vacation at the end of next week. No way this can happen before next year [21:10:01] 10Quarry, 10Patch-For-Review: Quarry should refuse to save results that are way too large - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188564 (10Halfak) Yikes! I wonder if we could use the query optimization output to decide to not even start some queries. Does quarry use celery timeouts to kill queries? I've foun... [21:24:27] 10Quarry, 10Patch-For-Review: Quarry should refuse to save results that are way too large - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188564 (10zhuyifei1999) It currently only kills queries that mariadb knows that has been executing on the database for longer than 30 mins, how long it takes to store the query results... [21:54:07] 10Quarry, 10Patch-For-Review: Quarry should refuse to save results that are way too large - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188564 (10zhuyifei1999) p:05Unbreak!>03High (Lowered because the offending processes have been killed) [23:38:33] halAFK: ORES got a shout out via Rosie in wikicite now. [23:58:58] she loves ORES