[00:54:29] folks, have a good rest of the day/night. I'm signing off for at least a few hours, maybe more. :) [17:14:24] bmansurov: o/ [17:14:49] bmansurov: I'm checking re sending out more emails for new editor interest model. [17:15:01] bmansurov: why is it that you contact n people but m halfak: o/ [17:18:11] halfak: will you or someone from your team respond to Bowen's question on wiki-research-l? [17:18:24] halfak: if not, let me know and I'll read it up and send a response. [17:19:02] halfak: nevermind. :D they're already working with you (had I only read the email;) [17:56:24] Nettrom: o/ [17:56:42] leila: o/ [17:56:56] Nettrom: I just pinged Marshall to join this IRC channel, and I get that the new workflow makes it hard for the team. [17:57:09] Nettrom: given that you're here, I'm less worried though. ;) [17:57:39] Nettrom: so I flag. whenever we talk about eliciting new editor interests model, please be extra aware that it may be interesting to you and your team. :) [17:58:01] Nettrom: you know it, I'm pretty sure, just in case: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Voice_and_exit_in_a_voluntary_work_environment/Elicit_new_editor_interests [17:58:28] and one day we will convince Marshall et al. to join IRC and I can listen in to the conversations on your end. ;) [17:59:03] leila: thanks for reminding me to keep an eye on it! :) I was aware of the project, but haven't kept up, so I'll make a note to check in more regularly [18:00:14] Nettrom: thanks. we're at this stage now: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Voice_and_exit_in_a_voluntary_work_environment/Elicit_new_editor_interests#Second_Online_Experiment and we're updating the stats section of it daily, at least for the next week. [18:04:12] leila: o/ to answer your question, by default emailing users is turned off (or users themselves turned off this feature), which is why we couldn't email everyone. [18:05:16] bmansurov: is this something we can check ahead of time? The reason I'm asking is that if we know that we can only email 5K users in total, then I'd suggest that we email all of them today. But if I know we can email 20K more, then I would suggest that we stage it further. [18:05:45] leila: yeah we can check [18:05:50] bmansurov: I assumed the 4K number we talked about yesterday is the effective username size. ;) [18:06:09] bmansurov: it would be great if you check how many are left and eligible in both sets and let me know. [18:07:03] leila: I have to dry-run the script and it will probably take at least a couple of hours before we can get the results. [18:07:16] leila: as far as I know there's no quick way to check easily. [18:07:37] bmansurov: ok. before we make that decision: can we check the blocked accounts in the same script? [18:08:02] leila: let me check its documentation [18:08:32] bmansurov: thanks. [18:09:32] leila: according to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:SendBulkEmails.php the script doesn't seem to handle the blocked status. [18:10:26] bmansurov: yeah. can you also remove those users? we shouldn't contact them [18:11:06] bmansurov: I think it's worth to let the script run for some hours, remove those that don't have Email_this_user feature active and those that are blocked, and then we look at the effective number of emails we can send and we make a decision about how many to send today. [18:11:13] leila: hmm, I'm not familiar with the script and it will probably take me some time to work on it. [18:11:41] leila: it will take more time to deploy changes, etc. [18:11:41] * leila chckes [18:11:43] checks* [18:12:07] leila: we could also interpolate the number of users who can receive emails from previous rounds. [18:12:26] bmansurov: yup. doing it now. (the blocked ones is the real concern) [18:14:09] leila: we could probably get the list of blocked users outside the script [18:14:25] bmansurov: that'd be great. [18:17:28] bmansurov: I did the computation on my end. We have to contact all the rest today. At the current response rate, we need those many attempt emails. [18:17:57] bmansurov: just FYI, I set the Email_this_user activation at 20% sometimes it's more but not much more. [18:18:08] leila: ok, I'll find the blocked users, remove them from the list and contact the rest. [18:18:18] bmansurov: so, please take out blocked accounts, and contact the rest in both sets. [18:18:31] yup. sorry. I said exactly what you said. ;) [18:19:39] haha [18:19:55] data for Diego's synonym project [18:29:54] haha [19:19:30] 10Quarry: "KeyError: 'request_token'" in /oauth-callback on local instance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211917 (10Framawiki) p:05Triage>03Low [19:29:58] o/ leila [19:30:07] Sorry to miss your ping earlier but I see you worked out the details :) [19:34:40] halfak|Lunch: no worries. all good. [22:44:18] 10Quarry: "KeyError: 'request_token'" in /oauth-callback on local instance - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211917 (10zhuyifei1999) The only reason I can think of'you just have to go back to the main page to be connected' is that the browser requests oauth-callback twice. Is this the case for you?