[07:38:56] <RhinosF1>	 Just got an email about Wikimedia Netherlands’ research
[07:39:07] <RhinosF1>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:EN_-_Report_survey_editors_Dutch_language_Wikipedia_2018.pdf
[07:39:34] <RhinosF1>	 It’s 13% aspergers in Dutch Wikipedia, rate in Europe is ~1.2%
[07:45:35] <RhinosF1>	 Created https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Editing_and_Neurotypes to start drafting stuff
[14:06:14] <Nemo_bis>	 How does one account for selection bias in such a survey?
[14:35:34] <Emufarmers>	 Nemo_bis: I wondered that too.  But the same question arises in past demographic surveys based on gender and such.  
[14:36:11] <Nemo_bis>	 Emufarmers: yes, which is why one should never use the WMF's gender gap data
[14:36:29] <Nemo_bis>	 But only the Hill & Shaw fixed statistic
[14:36:46] <Emufarmers>	 I forget: what did they do to try to correct for it?
[14:37:17] <Nemo_bis>	 Correcting for biases with a comparison to "ground truth" surveys
[14:37:31] <Nemo_bis>	 https://mako.cc/copyrighteous/the-wikipedia-gender-gap-revisited
[14:38:05] <Nemo_bis>	 Also listed rather prominently in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Gender_gap#Questions but many still cite the worse variants of the data :(
[14:38:30] <Emufarmers>	 Yeahh
[14:38:55] <Emufarmers>	 Well, could the same technique be applied to do propensity scoring here?
[14:40:03] <Nemo_bis>	 Maybe, if the survey has collected the right data
[14:41:23] <Nemo_bis>	 Although their stated target group is active editors so that changes the matter a bit
[14:41:23] <Emufarmers>	 Admittedly, autism has the additional challenge of the "real-world" numbers being pretty fuzzy to begin with
[14:45:15] <Nemo_bis>	 There were only 5 demographic questions, including nationality (Belgian or Dutch)
[14:46:20] <Nemo_bis>	 I wonder if there are studies of whether autism makes people more likely to notice or click a nasty banner :)
[14:48:24] <Nemo_bis>	 "Click rate" appears to have quite a different meaning in this context https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6026056/
[14:49:00] <Emufarmers>	 Intuitively I would expect autistic people to be more willing to fill out surveys.  Of course, if we just went by intuitions, we'd already have the answer for the original question here :)
[14:59:15] <Emufarmers>	 Also, yikes, just read through https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:The_Construction_and_Application_of_Personality_Profile_Based_on_User_Behavior_in_Wikipedia