[17:13:35] <isaacj>	 oooh ottomata i missed this but if you ever do more tutorials like this, i'd love to join!
[17:14:39] <isaacj>	 Research showcase starting in ~15 minutes!
[17:31:07] <isaacj>	 and we're live!
[17:31:23] <isaacj>	 Feel free to ask questions here or on Youtube and I'll do my best to forward them onto the speakers
[17:32:25] <isaacj>	 WikiWorkshop: https://wikiworkshop.org/2021/
[17:53:45] <GLCiampaglia_>	 Question for Włodzimierz: do I understand correct that the reliability of a source like CNN is inferred from the quality of the articles that cite it?
[17:53:52] <GLCiampaglia_>	 (Giovanni here!)
[17:54:18] <isaacj>	 noted Giovanni! depending on yes/no, do you have a follow-up on that?
[17:55:39] <GLCiampaglia_>	 Yes! If that is the case, have they thought about comparing their measure with other source reliability rating systems, like newsguard?
[17:57:39] <isaacj>	 :thumbs up:
[18:11:48] <Nettrom>	 isaacj: I'm pretty sure the wikirank quality score is described in this paper: https://doi.org/10.3390/informatics4040043 Could you forward that to the YT chat? YT asks me to create a channel to chat :(
[18:12:14] <isaacj>	 haha Nettrom happily
[18:12:23] <Nettrom>	 isaacj: thanks much! :)
[18:14:04] <isaacj>	 :thumbs up:
[18:18:39] <GLCiampaglia_>	 Citogenesis! :D
[18:19:03] <isaacj>	 cue https://xkcd.com/978/
[18:19:11] <leila>	 GLCiampaglia_: :D I will put it out there. measuring how prevelant citogenesis is would be great. 
[18:19:41] <AndyRussG>	 Wow super interesting comparison between content creation dynamics on social media vs WP... I wonder if game theory could be useful for studying dynamics for both
[18:20:36] <GLCiampaglia_>	 Leila: I know! Have been thinking about how to do measuring that for some time. Problem I guess is need to have access to web-scale longitudinal archive of web sources (i.e. not of Wikipedia)
[18:20:50] <isaacj>	 thanks AndyRussG : am i right in assuming you're asking about how understanding motivations/rewards to contributing to social media vs. wikipeda might help understand the differences?
[18:21:10] <AndyRussG>	 isaacj: yeah!
[18:21:22] <isaacj>	 :thumbs up:
[18:26:17] <leila>	 Online Disinformation and the role of Wikipedia paper Diego referred to now is at https://arxiv.org/abs/1910.12596
[18:27:02] <leila>	 GLCiampaglia_: yes, or a controlled study.
[18:27:22] <AndyRussG>	 leila: ah cool thx!
[18:28:53] <leila>	 (I will need to move to a hiring managers meeting which is now starting to discuss a topic of interest to our team. Sorry that I hvae to leave earlier.)
[18:29:37] <GLCiampaglia_>	 leila: interesting.... let's talk!
[18:30:11] <GLCiampaglia_>	 Hi J-Mo!
[18:30:43] <Nettrom>	 gotta run to another meeting, great presentations (as always), take care everyone!
[18:31:03] <isaacj>	 thanks Leila + Nettrom !
[18:32:40] <J-Mo>	 howdy GLCiampaglia_ !
[18:33:11] <J-Mo>	 bummed I missed the first presentation, but glad I made it in time for Diego's
[18:33:31] <miriam_>	 ciaooo J-Mo!
[18:33:35] <isaacj>	 yay - welcome J-Mo !
[18:33:49] <J-Mo>	 hi friends, great to see you :0)
[18:36:41] <isaacj>	 lots of J-Mo citations today :)
[18:37:07] <J-Mo>	 {{citation needed}}
[18:37:20] <isaacj>	 haha
[18:37:54] <isaacj>	 though probably actually like {{citation needed}} or {{other template}} or {{another template}} or...
[18:38:23] <isaacj>	 haha, what Diego is talking about right now
[18:38:46] <AndyRussG>	 https://arxiv.org/pdf/1902.11116.pdf (?)
[18:38:55] <GLCiampaglia_>	 This reminder me of checkworthiness detection in automated fact-checking. ClaimBuster is a good example of a tool developed by researchers and used by fact-checking organizations.
[18:39:05] <isaacj>	 AndyRussG: yep
[18:39:06] <miriam_>	 yes AndyRussG !
[18:39:20] <AndyRussG>	 :)
[18:39:42] <isaacj>	 GLCiampaglia_: is ClaimBuster relevant to Wikipedia you think?
[18:39:49] <isaacj>	 (i know no deatils about it)
[18:41:31] <GLCiampaglia_>	 Good question! AFAIK it was developed to detect factual statements from voice transcripts, so kind of different from written text. But I believe that now it can take any document. So in principle would work on a wikipedia article too...
[18:41:53] <GLCiampaglia_>	 ClaimBuster: https://idir.uta.edu/claimbuster/
[18:42:13] <isaacj>	 oh i see -- not necessarily true vs. false but statements that should be verifiable?
[18:42:48] <GLCiampaglia_>	 Yes, correct. To sift quickly through large quantities of text and find claims that need to be verified by a fact-checker.
[18:43:12] <isaacj>	 cool -- i'll pass along!
[18:43:31] <AndyRussG>	 I wonder if there is anything useful for this in the projects' policy documents, i.e. explicit or implicit notions of the projects' collectively agreed understand truth and justification
[18:44:35] <isaacj>	 AndyRussG: you're tickling my brain. i know i saw something on that recently but can't remember where... i think it's a fascinating question though!
[18:49:04] <AndyRussG>	 isaacj: 8) thx for passing stuff along!
[18:56:27] <isaacj>	 thanks all!
[18:56:49] <AndyRussG>	 thx and congrats to presenters!
[18:56:57] <dsaez>	 GLICiampglia, I'll have a look on that! I didn't know it.
[18:57:05] <GLCiampaglia_>	 Thanks Diego and Włodzimierz!
[18:57:10] <J-Mo>	 thanks everyone! hope to see you all in Jan
[18:57:57] <GLCiampaglia_>	 dsaez: you're welcome! Btw, I'll write you about the internship program.. very interesting!
[18:58:32] <dsaez>	 ´J-Mo!!!
[18:58:52] <J-Mo>	 ciao dsaez
[18:59:12] <J-Mo>	 left a message on the template page on Meta. 
[18:59:18] <dsaez>	 Good to have you here! 
[18:59:31] <J-Mo>	 so cool to see you've been keeping busy ;)
[18:59:37] <J-Mo>	 nice work 
[18:59:54] <dsaez>	 Great, thanks! I was thnaking your work without knowning you will be here :) 
[18:59:59] <dsaez>	 thanks for the feedback.
[18:59:59] <J-Mo>	 hehehe