[00:03:09] <Carmela>	 James_F: The Wikimedia community existed before and will exist long after any arbitrary Wikimedia Foundation grouping of employees that pretends to represents its interests. But you already knew that. ;-)
[00:03:32] <James_F>	 Carmela: It's nice that you think that's relevant.
[00:04:45] <Carmela>	 I suppose I'll need re-programming from our dear Community Leaders to set me straight.
[00:04:46] <MatmaRex>	 um, what does the arbcom have to do with software deployments? why are they special and unlike all other editors?
[00:05:11] <Krenair>	 Yeah, arbitration committees?
[00:05:13] <Carmela>	 It's even more insane than that because almost every wiki doesn't have the plague that is an ArbCom.
[00:05:30] <Carmela>	 ArbComs are—by far—the exception and not the rule.
[00:05:32] <Carmela>	 But w/e.
[00:06:05] <Carmela>	 It's not really worth discussing unless someone from the LCA team puts up a fuss (and I can't imagine they would).
[00:06:16] <Carmela>	 legoktm: I was curious about the footer thing that was mentioned.
[00:06:30] <legoktm>	 what it looks like?
[00:06:33] <Carmela>	 Yeah.
[00:06:57] <Carmela>	 A screenshot at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_user_pages might be nice, maybe.
[00:07:26] <Carmela>	 Looks like that page needs a little love generally.
[00:07:27] * Carmela clicks edit.
[00:08:37] <legoktm>	 Carmela: http://cl.ly/image/3E2r0T062A0j
[00:08:57] <legoktm>	 Or...that's what it looked like in September :P
[00:09:11] <Carmela>	 What's the opt-out?
[00:09:17] <Carmela>	 Per-wiki or everything?
[00:09:36] <legoktm>	 if you opt-out it's opt out everywhere
[00:09:44] <Carmela>	 How do you opt out?
[00:09:48] <Carmela>	 Special:Preferences?
[00:10:06] <legoktm>	 did you read the docs? ;) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:GlobalUserPage#Controlling_what_content_is_displayed
[00:10:19] <Carmela>	 Oh, docs, nice.
[00:10:27] <Carmela>	 I was looking at the Meta-Wiki page like a fool.
[00:11:46] <comets>	 :D
[00:11:54] <legoktm>	 you can "opt-out" per-wiki by creating a blank userpage there I guess.
[00:11:58] <comets>	 now if we can have global preferences :P
[00:15:30] * ^d will have a globally blank userpage!
[00:17:26] <Carmela>	 I cleaned up https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_user_pages a bit.
[00:17:41] <Carmela>	 The JS/CSS bit is kind of irrelevant, but fine for now, I guess.
[00:22:43] <Carmela>	 Meh, killed.
[02:21:42] <EoRdE6>	 Wikipedia is being super duper slow... Ive checked my pseed, load, and ping and there are no problems, just wikipedia
[03:01:52] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Bindaladitya001; /* subject */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=10572100&oldid=10564915&rcid=5725035
[03:09:09] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Jdforrester (WMF); Undo revision 10572100 by [[Special:Contributions/Bindaladitya001|Bindaladitya001]] ([[User talk:Bindaladitya001|talk]]); test edit; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=10572141&oldid=10572100&rcid=5725042
[07:52:24] <Nemo_bis>	 legoktm: is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71241 blocked on anything I can help with?
[07:52:58] <legoktm>	 I just finished generating the list of users to be notified ~30 minutes ago, and am writing an email to the ops list right now :)
[07:53:47] <Nemo_bis>	 yay
[07:54:10] * Nemo_bis updates 
[08:25:23] <Nemo_bis>	 WebAPI requests now make me wait on bits.wikimedia.org... I'm not impressed. :(
[08:53:19] <Nemo_bis>	 *teardrop* https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T717
[18:27:14] <whatami>	 This might have been mentioned already, but AT&T users are having trouble logging in.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Can_not_log_in_on_AT.26T has all the information that I have.
[20:18:20] <Nemo_bis>	 tonythomas: oooh https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/172322 so how do we see what it's doing? :)
[20:20:00] <Reedy>	 Nemo_bis: We can check the db table!
[20:22:49] <Reedy>	 (it's empty)
[20:30:43] <Nemo_bis>	 boooooooring
[20:30:48] <Nemo_bis>	 let's start emailing people
[20:31:07] <Reedy>	 We just need to wait for legoktm to run the CA email spam
[20:31:21] <Reedy>	 Except, the extension won't be enabled everywhere at that point probably
[20:33:59] <Nemo_bis>	 Reedy: which is a pity
[20:34:07] <Reedy>	 Mmmm
[20:34:10] <Nemo_bis>	 We can always run a talk page bot on a wiki where it's enabled
[20:34:12] <Reedy>	 Maybe we should make sure it is
[20:34:32] <Nemo_bis>	 If it works ;)
[20:34:51] <Reedy>	 test2? wiki is probably far too small of a dataset to know
[22:07:21] <Nemo_bis>	 wow :) https://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?r=day&cs=&ce=&c=Elasticsearch+cluster+eqiad&h=&tab=m&vn=&hide-hf=false&m=cpu_report&sh=1&z=small&hc=4&host_regex=&max_graphs=0&s=descending
[22:43:15] <Ryulong>	 what does this mean
[22:43:17] <Ryulong>	 A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software.
[22:43:17] <Ryulong>	     Function: User::incEditCount
[22:43:17] <Ryulong>	     Error: 1205 Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (10.64.32.22)
[22:43:54] <hoo>	 that can happen (although it obviously shouldn't)
[22:43:56] <hoo>	 just try it again