[16:31:30] moritzm: you're supposed to be on vacation, not doing code reviews! :P (but also, re ~wmf3 with the cloudflare patch, I'm just building that to test whether it works at this point, not to upload to carbon) [16:47:07] 10Traffic, 10MediaWiki-Cache, 06Operations: Possible increase in logged-out users being served cached outdated revisions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141693#2508537 (10Glaisher) [16:47:19] 10Traffic, 10MediaWiki-Cache, 06Operations: Possible increase in logged-out users being served cached outdated revisions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141693#2508549 (10Glaisher) p:05Triage>03High [16:49:27] 10Traffic, 10MediaWiki-Cache, 06Operations: Cached outdated revisions served to logged-out users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141687#2508550 (10Aklapper) [16:49:42] 10Traffic, 10MediaWiki-Cache, 06Operations: Cached outdated revisions served to logged-out users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141687#2507607 (10Aklapper) [16:49:46] 10Traffic, 10MediaWiki-Cache, 06Operations: Possible increase in logged-out users being served cached outdated revisions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141693#2508558 (10Aklapper) [16:52:51] 10Traffic, 10MediaWiki-Cache, 06Operations: Cached outdated revisions served to logged-out users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141687#2508560 (10Aklapper) Quoting Glaisher from T141693: > Multiple reports at enwiki and OTRS. > * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#Why_No_Text_In_Article.... [16:53:22] 10Traffic, 10MediaWiki-Cache, 06Operations: Cached outdated revisions served to logged-out users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141687#2508563 (10Aklapper) (Wondering if belated syncing of ProofRead status on Wikisource reported in T141692 might be related to caching issues.) [16:54:49] 10Traffic, 10MediaWiki-Cache, 06Operations: Cached outdated revisions served to logged-out users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141687#2508566 (10Boshomi) [16:56:32] 10Traffic, 10MediaWiki-Cache, 06Operations: Cached outdated revisions served to logged-out users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141687#2508567 (10Glaisher) >>! In T141687#2508563, @Aklapper wrote: > (Wondering if belated syncing of ProofRead status on Wikisource reported in T141692 might be related to... [18:36:53] 10Traffic, 10MediaWiki-Cache, 06Operations: Cached outdated revisions served to logged-out users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141687#2508701 (10Boshomi) T141695 is also the same [18:40:06] 10Traffic, 10MediaWiki-Cache, 06Operations: Cached outdated revisions served to logged-out users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141687#2508709 (10Boshomi) [18:41:46] 10Traffic, 10MediaWiki-Cache, 06Operations: Cached outdated revisions served to logged-out users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141687#2507607 (10Boshomi) in T141695 @Gestrid wrote: >I work in the English Wikipedia's Teahouse (a place for new users to ask questions and get answers), where we have recen... [19:28:06] 10Traffic, 10MediaWiki-Cache, 06Operations: Cached outdated revisions served to logged-out users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141687#2508719 (10Gestrid) Several reports have come in at the [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions | English Wikipedia's Teahouse ]] regarding this i... [19:34:25] 10Traffic, 10MediaWiki-Cache, 06Operations: Cached outdated revisions served to logged-out users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141687#2508720 (10Boshomi) [20:10:58] 10Traffic, 10MediaWiki-Cache, 06Operations: Logged out users are not seeing the most up-to-date versions of Wikipedia pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141695#2508730 (10Danny_B) [22:45:58] 10Traffic, 10MediaWiki-Cache, 06Operations: Cached outdated revisions served to logged-out users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141687#2508947 (10BBlack) There haven't been any related changes recently on the cache side of things (e.g. changes in relevant VCL or how purging works, etc). More likely it... [22:52:07] 10Traffic, 10MediaWiki-Cache, 06Operations: Cached outdated revisions served to logged-out users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141687#2508952 (10Gestrid) The first question in the Teahouse related to this problem came in yesterday (July 29th) at about 2:16 pm EDT. This means that whatever happened wa...