[00:19:46] 10Traffic, 10MobileFrontend, 10Operations: Remove .m. subdomain, serve mobile and desktop variants through the same URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998 (10tstarling) [00:31:34] 10Traffic, 10MobileFrontend, 10Operations: Remove .m. subdomain, serve mobile and desktop variants through the same URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998 (10Koavf) Agreed. There is zero need for a subdomain: this is why CSS exists and has been supported since at least 1998. [06:13:05] 10Traffic, 10MobileFrontend, 10Operations: Remove .m. subdomain, serve mobile and desktop variants through the same URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998 (10Legoktm) > The m. subdomain, as in en.m.wikipedia.org, is annoying. Links shared on social media are randomly mobile or non-mobile, and so des... [06:46:53] 10Traffic, 10MobileFrontend, 10Operations: Remove .m. subdomain, serve mobile and desktop variants through the same URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998 (10Koavf) Alternate proposal: create - [langcode].braille.[project].org - [langcode].embossed.[project].org - [langcode].handheld.[project]... [07:12:18] 10Traffic, 10MobileFrontend, 10Operations: Remove .m. subdomain, serve mobile and desktop variants through the same URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998 (10Funnyjokes2019) Commonly we attain confused when we finally hear the exact terms website development service in addition to internet develope... [07:45:08] 10Traffic, 10MobileFrontend, 10Operations: Remove .m. subdomain, serve mobile and desktop variants through the same URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998 (10Koavf) p:05Triage→03Unbreak! [07:45:38] 10Traffic, 10MobileFrontend, 10Operations: Remove .m. subdomain, serve mobile and desktop variants through the same URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998 (10Koavf) Escalated to unbreak now to bring attention to the vandal: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/Funnyjokes2019/ I've never seen vandali... [08:09:32] 10Traffic, 10MobileFrontend, 10Operations: Remove .m. subdomain, serve mobile and desktop variants through the same URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998 (10Ammarpad) p:05Unbreak!→03Triage The account has been disabled. [08:12:33] 10Traffic, 10MobileFrontend, 10Operations: Remove .m. subdomain, serve mobile and desktop variants through the same URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998 (10tstarling) >>! In T214998#4919908, @Koavf wrote: > Alternate proposal: create > - [langcode].braille.[project].org I assume this sarcastic... [08:24:10] 10Traffic, 10MobileFrontend, 10Operations: Remove .m. subdomain, serve mobile and desktop variants through the same URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998 (10Koavf) >>! In T214998#4919947, @tstarling wrote: >>>! In T214998#4919908, @Koavf wrote: >> Alternate proposal: create >> - [langcode].braill... [08:59:59] 10Traffic, 10MobileFrontend, 10Operations: Remove .m. subdomain, serve mobile and desktop variants through the same URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998 (10tstarling) Yeah, very funny. In case it needs to be said, your comment was an attempt to support my proposal by reductio ad absurdum, via a r... [09:34:30] 10Traffic, 10MobileFrontend, 10Operations: Remove .m. subdomain, serve mobile and desktop variants through the same URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998 (10tstarling) My problem is that you are making fun of MobileFrontend, and by implication, the engineers who designed MobileFrontend, who may wel... [13:47:55] 10Traffic, 10MobileFrontend, 10Operations: Remove .m. subdomain, serve mobile and desktop variants through the same URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998 (10TheDragonFire) I don't think there is any significant animosity toward any engineers involved in building what was at the time a pragmatic sol... [15:54:24] 10Traffic, 10MobileFrontend, 10Operations: Remove .m. subdomain, serve mobile and desktop variants through the same URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998 (10Koavf) >>! In T214998#4920019, @tstarling wrote: > My problem is that you are making fun of MobileFrontend, and by implication, the engineers... [18:59:12] 10Traffic, 10MobileFrontend, 10Operations: Remove .m. subdomain, serve mobile and desktop variants through the same URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998 (10stjn) If you add some redirection, add a way to circumvent it please (via some specific query?). Right now testing for mobile version involves... [19:46:04] 10Traffic, 10Operations, 10Proton, 10Reading-Infrastructure-Team-Backlog, and 3 others: Document and possibly fine-tune how Proton interacts with Varnish - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213371 (10pmiazga) @Jhernandez I'll update documentation once all Tgr questions are answered. [20:11:34] 10Traffic, 10MobileFrontend, 10Operations: Remove .m. subdomain, serve mobile and desktop variants through the same URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998 (10tstarling) >>! In T214998#4920810, @stjn wrote: > If you add some redirection, add a way to circumvent it please (via some specific query?). R... [20:29:40] 10Traffic, 10MobileFrontend, 10Operations: Remove .m. subdomain, serve mobile and desktop variants through the same URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998 (10stjn) Wasn’t aware of this link, thanks for addressing my concern. (‘Mobile view’ link sets cookies that make mobile version permanent for a v...