[00:32:05] 10Traffic, 10Fundraising-Backlog, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CentralNotice, 10Operations, and 2 others: Implement redirect for hide banner cookie issue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251780 (10Ejegg) @Krinkle explained in IRC that this approach will probably not work long term, and risks Wikipedia being... [01:09:28] 10Traffic, 10Fundraising-Backlog, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CentralNotice, 10Operations, and 2 others: Implement redirect for hide banner cookie issue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251780 (10AndyRussG) > He suggested we put the thank you page on a *.wikipedia.org domain rather than *.wikimedia.org, so... [01:21:13] 10netops, 10Operations, 10ops-codfw: (Need by: End of July-2020 ) codfw:rack/setup/new management switches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253154 (10Papaul) [01:34:31] 10Traffic, 10Fundraising-Backlog, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CentralNotice, 10Operations, and 2 others: Implement redirect for hide banner cookie issue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251780 (10AndyRussG) Just another idea for the shortest-term solution: in the banner, we could try to determine the user's... [06:33:35] 10Traffic, 10Fundraising-Backlog, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CentralNotice, 10Operations, and 2 others: Implement redirect for hide banner cookie issue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251780 (10AndyRussG) @Ejegg what about this option? We set a special cookie on donate.wikimedia.org when people go to the... [10:36:20] there is a few "SSL WARNING - OCSP staple validity for en.wikipedia.org" warnings, known vgutierrez? [10:36:36] that will go away as soon as puppet runs [10:36:43] ok cool [10:36:53] thanks jynus :) [10:37:17] better ping that being sure, even if probably is for a non-active cert [10:38:23] oh it's the active cert [10:38:36] 10Traffic, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Operations, 10Performance-Team (Radar): CDN cache revalidation on several wikis for desktop improvements deployment - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256750 (10ovasileva) @ema - apologies for the late response - we had some blockers arise this week with the deploymen... [10:38:39] the LE one it's currently being used on the US datacenters [10:38:50] 10Traffic, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Operations, 10Performance-Team (Radar): CDN cache revalidation on several wikis for desktop improvements deployment - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256750 (10ovasileva) [10:38:58] that's why esams & eqsin aren't affected [11:18:56] 10Traffic, 10Operations: Network access to Wikipedia blocked - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257664 (10Majavah) [11:24:49] 10netops, 10Operations: Network access to Wikipedia blocked - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257664 (10jcrespo) This is network, not traffic, as there is no icmp reach. [13:23:49] 10Acme-chief, 10Patch-For-Review, 10Release-Engineering-Team (CI & Testing services), 10Release-Engineering-Team-TODO (Release-Engineering-Team-TODO (2020-07-01 to 2020-09-30 (Q1))): Change CI image for acme-chief from Stretch to Buster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257456 (10hashar) I have deployed... [13:41:13] 10Traffic, 10Fundraising-Backlog, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CentralNotice, 10Operations, and 2 others: Implement redirect for hide banner cookie issue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251780 (10Ejegg) @AndyRussG Hmm, that cross-site cookie check would require at least one more web request to complete befo... [13:41:24] 10Traffic, 10Fundraising-Backlog, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CentralNotice, 10Operations, and 2 others: Implement redirect for hide banner cookie issue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251780 (10spatton) I like that last idea (special cookie on donate wiki that we check in banners), @AndyRussG! I would be... [14:04:02] 10netops, 10Operations: Investigate Juniper storm control - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T245192 (10Krinkle) [14:05:56] 10Traffic, 10Cloud-Services, 10Operations, 10SRE-OnFire-Incident-Docs, 10cloud-services-team (Kanban): Requests to production are sometimes timing out or giving empty response - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T249035 (10Krinkle) Looks like this is no longer an active incident. Re-tagging as such. Are... [14:35:23] 10Traffic, 10Fundraising-Backlog, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CentralNotice, 10Operations, and 2 others: Implement redirect for hide banner cookie issue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251780 (10Pcoombe) Some quick thoughts on proposed solutions **TY page on *.wikipedia.org** `-` need a new restricted acc... [14:38:36] 10Traffic, 10Fundraising-Backlog, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CentralNotice, 10Operations, and 2 others: Implement redirect for hide banner cookie issue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251780 (10MBeat33) > Put a link in the thank-you page and/or thank-you e-mail for users to click I'd like to advocate gen... [15:56:52] 10Traffic, 10Fundraising-Backlog, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CentralNotice, 10Operations, and 2 others: Implement redirect for hide banner cookie issue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251780 (10DStrine) Here is another option. We make a subdomain with a name similar to fundraising.wikipedia.org or donate.... [17:28:38] 10Traffic, 10Fundraising-Backlog, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CentralNotice, 10Operations, and 2 others: Implement redirect for hide banner cookie issue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251780 (10AndyRussG) **One more option** (thanks to @Jgreen for this idea): we could create a **thank-you banner on Wikipe... [18:03:00] 10Traffic, 10Fundraising-Backlog, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CentralNotice, 10Operations, and 2 others: Implement redirect for hide banner cookie issue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251780 (10Pcoombe) **Thank you banner** This certainly seems like it could solve the problem, but it would need a not insi... [18:28:39] 10Traffic, 10Fundraising-Backlog, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CentralNotice, 10Operations, and 2 others: Implement redirect for hide banner cookie issue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251780 (10AndyRussG) >>! In T251780#6297530, @Pcoombe wrote: > **Thank you banner** > This certainly seems like it could s... [19:18:13] 10Traffic, 10Fundraising-Backlog, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CentralNotice, 10Operations, and 2 others: Implement redirect for hide banner cookie issue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251780 (10DStrine) It's great we are considering alternatives. I really want to highlight the effort needed to set this up... [19:43:51] hiiiii! can anyone advise on varying varnish response based on the value of a specific cookie sent with the request? thanks in advance!!! [19:43:57] hi traffic folks! [19:44:45] for context: we're trying to deal with browsers no longer letting our donation TY page set banner hide cookies on all projects by loading tags with src of Special:HideBanners [19:45:30] so one idea is for our TY page (hosted at donate.wikimedia.org) to set a *.wikimedia.org cookie that would be read in the Special:BannerLoader request (to meta.wikimedia.org) [19:46:25] We would restrict that cookie's range of values to just the month and year of a donation [19:46:42] so that it wouldn't blow up the cache tooo much [19:48:13] but we're not sure if you can only Vary: based on all concatenated cookies, or if it's possible to vary a page based on one specific cookie's value [19:51:11] we wouldn't be setting any cookies, just reading one and deciding whether to return a banner or not [20:18:46] 10Traffic, 10Fundraising-Backlog, 10MediaWiki-extensions-CentralNotice, 10Operations, and 2 others: Implement redirect for hide banner cookie issue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251780 (10Ejegg) @Pcoombe We started diving into this solution, and then realized that the Special:BannerLoader page is he...