[08:53:56] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "investigating and fixing bug #38181" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14449
[08:55:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "DO NOT MERGE! Bug is not fixed yet." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14449
[09:42:57] <Danwe_WMDE>	 would be awesome if someone could merge this little patch fast: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/14420/
[09:44:01] <Danwe_WMDE>	 TobiasG_WMDE: Henning_WMDE, Jens_WMDE ^^
[09:49:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Werner; "Actually, not sure about the prefixes, they are not used in core for postgres." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14312
[09:49:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Werner; "Actually, not sure about the prefixes, they are not used in core for postgres." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14312
[09:51:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Werner; "Actually, not sure about the prefixes, they are not used in core for postgres." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14311
[09:53:49] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14420
[10:13:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Werner; "Hooks should be documented somewhere, add a hooks.txt for Wikibase perhaps." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14406
[10:29:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Language stickiness now causes cache fragmentation." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14073
[10:35:16] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Language is sticky for form fields now (DO NOT MERGE)." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14283
[10:35:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Language is sticky for form fields now" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14283
[11:23:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "added basic selenium tests for simple language switcher" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14454
[11:25:04] <TobiasG_WMDE>	 Jens_WMDE: you can have a look at the language switcher selenium tests if you want: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/14454/
[11:41:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "They did not cause problems when running the code - however I did remove them in this commit: gerrit..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14311
[11:41:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Same as with dependency: see gerrit 14339" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14312
[12:22:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added OnItemDeletionUpdate hook" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14406
[12:39:55] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14406
[12:44:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added __METHOD__ to db calls" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14461
[12:45:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Some cleanup in an API module" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14462
[12:53:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Store equivalent links in langlinks table [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14083
[13:18:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "added basic selenium tests for simple language switcher" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14454
[13:19:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jens Ohlig; "Works. Whitespace error fixed in next patchset." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14454
[13:20:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jens Ohlig; "Reviewed, verified, and whitespace fixed." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14454
[13:20:21] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14454
[13:41:29] * Lydia_WMDE  waves from Riga

[13:45:25] <johl>	 Lydia_WMDE!
[13:46:32] <Lydia_WMDE>	 johl!
[13:46:33] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :D
[13:48:57] <TobiasG_WMDE>	 huhuuuu!!!
[13:52:37] <DarkoNeko>	 Riga ?
[14:15:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "fixed checkSitelinksForInsert: Title::newFromID sometimes caused error, probably because it was called with an itemID; removed getting the title and displaying the itemID now in the error-message." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14484
[14:22:03] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Store equivalent links in langlinks table [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14083
[14:22:59] <johl>	 JeroenDeDauw: aha?
[14:23:00] * jeremyb  pokes head in...

[14:23:19] <johl>	 JeroenDeDauw: new patchset? should I update the test server?
[14:23:44] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Denny_WMDE: should be fixed by https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/14083/3
[14:23:57] <JeroenDeDauw>	 johl: sure
[14:25:11] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14484
[14:26:12] <Denny_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: i guess i should truncate the ll table?
[14:26:35] <Denny_WMDE>	 johl: you can use the fetch command from gerrit
[14:27:57] <Thehelpfulone>	 Denny_WMDE, is the wikidata-ab list a private list, or are you making it public?
[14:28:16] <Thehelpfulone>	 I ask because the archives are currently public for the posts of this month
[14:28:45] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Denny_WMDE: should work even with the incorrect data in the table now
[14:29:01] <JeroenDeDauw>	 wikidata-ab? o_O
[14:29:30] <Denny_WMDE>	 Thehelpfulone: they should not be public
[14:29:36] <Denny_WMDE>	 wikidata-ab was meant to be private
[14:29:56] <Thehelpfulone>	 well http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-ab/ I can see "[Wikidata-ab] First update and intro mail
[14:29:56] <Thehelpfulone>	 "
[14:30:05] <Denny_WMDE>	 ok, i will change that
[14:30:08] <Denny_WMDE>	 thank you very much!
[14:30:13] <Thehelpfulone>	 no problem :)
[14:31:13] <Denny_WMDE>	 your handle is mysteriously fitting Thehelpfulone
[14:31:13] <Thehelpfulone>	 heh
[14:31:38] <Denny_WMDE>	 it should be private now
[14:31:55] <Denny_WMDE>	 would you mind to check?
[14:32:17] <Thehelpfulone>	 yes I just checked, it is
[14:32:27] <Denny_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: wikidata-ab is the advisory board list 
[14:32:31] <Denny_WMDE>	 Thehelpfulone: thanks!
[14:33:37] <Thehelpfulone>	 no problem, so just to confirm, you want the advisory board to, for the most part, do it's discussions at wikidata-ab-open@lists...?
[14:34:06] <Denny_WMDE>	 yes, exactly
[14:34:15] <Denny_WMDE>	 only few of the discussions would be on the private list
[14:35:11] <Denny_WMDE>	 i think that most of the discussions could be interesting to the outside as well
[14:35:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Well, its not tha API itself, its a test file for some API functionality. ;p" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14462
[14:35:20] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14462
[14:39:12] <Thehelpfulone>	 ok, well I'm wondering if it would be better to have wikidata-ab as the open list then Denny_WMDE 
[14:39:20] <Thehelpfulone>	 and I can create a wikidata-ab-private for private discussions
[14:39:39] <Thehelpfulone>	 shorter name, easier to remember and it would make more sense if we want the majority of the discussions to be open
[14:40:00] <Thehelpfulone>	 the existing archives can be deleted from wikidata-ab if they are private
[14:40:24] <jeremyb>	 Denny_WMDE: re NYT: < jeremyb> how open is it? what will it cover? (is it a talk? or what?)
[14:40:28] <jeremyb>	 also, what day
[14:50:24] <Denny_WMDE>	 Thehelpfulone: I agree in theory, in practise I don't want to shove around the members and have them get so many mails right now :-P
[14:50:40] <Denny_WMDE>	 and figured it would be easier to have it this way right now
[14:50:49] <Denny_WMDE>	 if we can do as you say
[14:50:59] <Denny_WMDE>	 without bothering the existing members with many mails
[14:51:03] <Thehelpfulone>	 but if it's going to be posts by the advisory board only then it shouldn't be /too/ many emails?
[14:51:04] <Denny_WMDE>	 i would say, ok, let's do it
[14:51:15] <Thehelpfulone>	 the existing members - are they board only?
[14:51:15] <Denny_WMDE>	 no, i just mean right now
[14:51:22] <Denny_WMDE>	 yes
[14:51:43] <Thehelpfulone>	 ok, so they will be allowed to post, and we can set it for all new members to be moderated by default so they can't post
[14:54:27] <Denny_WMDE>	 yes
[14:54:33] <Denny_WMDE>	 that sounds good
[14:54:43] <Denny_WMDE>	 jeremyb: a talk
[14:54:50] <Denny_WMDE>	 thursday after wikimania
[14:55:00] <Denny_WMDE>	 july 19
[14:55:02] <Denny_WMDE>	 open to all
[14:55:07] <jeremyb>	 ahh, great. and Lydia will be there, right? ;)
[14:55:10] <Denny_WMDE>	 general intro to wikidata
[14:55:17] <Denny_WMDE>	 no, i will
[14:55:31] <jeremyb>	 (she said no but i didn't believe her)
[14:55:36] <jeremyb>	 Denny_WMDE: and katie?
[14:56:15] <Lydia_WMDE>	 jeremyb: you should believe me :D
[14:56:16] <Lydia_WMDE>	 always!
[14:56:25] <jeremyb>	 Lydia_WMDE: hah
[14:58:59] <Denny_WMDE>	 don't know about aude katie, but i thought she would not be around
[15:00:20] <Denny_WMDE>	 jeremyb: we will send out mails soon. got the confirmation today about the event
[15:11:17] <jeremyb>	 coool
[15:11:18] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14283
[15:16:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "Add readme (DO NOT SUBMIT)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12222
[15:21:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "investigating and fixing bug #38181" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14449
[15:48:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Special:CreateItem keeps the language now when redirecting to items page after creation" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14493
[15:51:03] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "prevent making the site id editable when instantly editing a just created site link" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14494
[15:53:13] <Thehelpfulone>	 Denny_WMDE, I left a comment on the bug, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38215 - a question for you to answer there so that we have a public record of what's going to be done
[15:59:50] <aude>	 Denny_WMDE: i'm around the week after wikimania, if it would help to have me there
[16:00:01] <aude>	 will be catching up on wikidata work though
[16:06:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "investigating and fixing bug #38181" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14449
[16:11:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "did a rebase and fixed mergeconflicts in RAKEFILE." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14449
[16:13:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "For me the Bug is still there: create new item -> enter description in language A -> switch to langu..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14449
[16:19:26] <Denny_WMDE>	 aude:  it would be NY, not DC
[16:22:35] <aude>	 Denny_WMDE: right
[16:27:58] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "prevent making the site id editable when instantly editing a just created site link" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14494
[16:38:21] <Denny_WMDE>	 aude: everything going well with wikimania?
[18:20:09] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14461
[18:30:06] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "*pokedypoke*" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14069
[18:31:36] <hashar>	 oh so there is a wikidata channel :)
[18:39:04] <DarkoNeko>	 indeed