[09:07:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Wait with submit until working tests are in place, and that UI team is informed as this will break t..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17227
[09:12:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Refactor Wikibase API tests." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17332
[12:22:23] <Nikola_S>	 Hi all!
[12:23:35] <Nikola_S>	 I believe I have the fix for https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38956
[12:23:39] <Nikola_S>	 but I can't commit it
[12:24:26] <Nikola_S>	 OK, I succeeded :)
[12:25:48] <Nikola_S>	 bye
[12:28:21] <Denny_WMDE>	 hi Nikola_S
[12:28:34] <Denny_WMDE>	 everyone on lunch break, but i will point them to it
[12:53:23] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Refactor Wikibase API tests." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17332
[13:40:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "which core changes does this depend on?" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14083
[13:52:41] <Daniel_WMDE>	 aude: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35960#c8
[13:54:16] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17074
[14:00:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "merge in subsequent fixes to api call add namespaces in the wikibase client" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16749
[14:01:20] <aude>	 Daniel_WMDE: thanks
[14:05:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "add namespaces in the wikibase client merge in subsequent fixes to api call" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16749
[14:21:17] <cashews>	 https wikidata
[14:21:19] <Denny_WMDE>	 can someone check the difference between https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37306 and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38569 ?
[14:21:21] <cashews>	 You attempted to reach en.wikidata.org, but instead you actually reached a server identifying itself as *.wikimedia.org. This may be caused by a misconfiguration on the server or by something more serious. An attacker on your network could be trying to get you to visit a fake (and potentially harmful) version of en.wikidata.org.
[14:21:25] <Denny_WMDE>	 or is it duplicates?
[14:56:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Look at the comments, even when collapsed you can see the "depends on"" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14083
[15:00:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "Would be nicer to list it in the dependencies part of gerrit, but okay." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14083
[15:32:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Small change to simplify call syntax." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17431
[15:33:48] <aude>	 Daniel_WMDE: http://pastie.org/4378280
[15:33:54] <aude>	 which of these errors are expected
[15:33:54] <aude>	 ?
[15:34:06] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Simplify call syntax for props in wbgetitems." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17431
[15:40:56] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: John Erling Blad; "A fix for https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38838 is part of this patchset." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17169
[15:57:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Refactor Wikibase API tests." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17332
[15:57:45] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Simplify call syntax for props in wbgetitems." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17431
[16:02:36] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "no critical errors that are blockers but have a few minor comments" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17332
[16:05:52] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "Refactor Wikibase API tests." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17332
[16:17:12] <Abraham_WMDE>	 Daniel_WMDE: poke
[16:29:32] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17332
[16:41:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "I think this change is now obsolete with the API test refactoring (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16965
[17:25:46] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Undo for items [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17057
[18:05:27] <joancreus>	 can i have a server and client instance at the same time?
[18:05:36] <joancreus>	 it's just not to have to clone again :)
[18:05:40] <joancreus>	 or mess up with git
[18:10:38] <joancreus>	 by the way, i begun https://github.com/jcreus/pywikidata back in the beginning, but i stopped until there was something stable. should i start coding again (python interface to wikidata's api)
[18:38:56] <Danwe_WMDE>	 joancreus: yes, you can have both
[18:40:12] <Danwe_WMDE>	 joancreus: The api might still changin in some ways, but if you take that into acount, you could do some stuff already
[18:40:41] <Danwe_WMDE>	 of course it will be evolving in phase two
[19:10:14] <jeremyb>	 can we use existing keywords like easy not just make up new ones?
[19:10:23] <jeremyb>	 (I'm assuming needs-volunteer is new)
[19:10:45] <jeremyb>	 (we can do both... just not exclusively use the new keywords)
[19:12:29] <Reedy>	 There isn't really one
[19:12:32] <Reedy>	 using easy doesn't make sense :p
[19:23:53] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yes easy is not what we want
[19:24:01] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i looked though all the existing ones and none fit
[19:46:57] <jeremyb>	 Lydia_WMDE: Reedy: huh?
[19:47:05] <jeremyb>	 no wikidata bug is ever easy?!
[19:47:15] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sure but that's not what we want there
[19:47:15] <jeremyb>	 not all bugs are created equal...
[19:47:28] <Lydia_WMDE>	 we want bugs that volunteers can do
[19:47:34] <Lydia_WMDE>	 they can also do hard bugs :D
[19:47:39] <Lydia_WMDE>	 (i hope)
[19:47:54] <jeremyb>	 so then why would any bug ever not have the keyword?
[19:49:09] <Lydia_WMDE>	 because some of the wikidata bugs are just not good for anyone outside the team at wikimedia germany
[19:49:35] <Lydia_WMDE>	 for example because they are entangled with work someone is already doing
[19:49:41] <Lydia_WMDE>	 or because they are waiting on a decision
[19:49:46] <Lydia_WMDE>	 such stuff
[19:50:00] * jeremyb  still doesn't get it

[19:50:03] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i want to make it easy to find tasks that are good for volunteers
[19:51:00] <jeremyb>	 Lydia_WMDE: couldn't we just call it e.g. helpwanted?
[19:51:10] <Reedy>	 maybe
[19:51:26] <Reedy>	 it's like for "optional" stuff - ie stuff the wikidata team want to do, but aren't likely going to
[19:51:30] <jeremyb>	 which i'm surprised doesn't already exist
[19:51:49] <jeremyb>	 Reedy: also wasn't obvious to me
[19:51:54] <Lydia_WMDE>	 we could but the link to the search is already spread so i'd prefer not to rename it
[19:52:47] <jeremyb>	 anyway, still i think you should use the keywords that for a specific bug. not just need-volunteer or nothing
[19:52:54] <jeremyb>	 so some probably should be easy
[19:53:53] <jeremyb>	 that fit for*
[19:54:40] <Reedy>	 i suspect doing wikidata bugs may have a higher barrier to entry too though
[19:54:45] <Lydia_WMDE>	 right
[19:54:50] <Lydia_WMDE>	 also we do use other keywords
[20:06:07] <joancreus>	 whoa, just read the api spec to create a python library. will take long :S