[05:49:50] New patchset: Amire80; "Stylistic changes in English messages" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18836 [07:00:35] Hallo. Anybody here today? [07:12:39] New patchset: Amire80; "Stylistic changes in English messages" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18836 [07:44:33] hi aharoni [08:07:44] aude: hi. [08:08:11] heya peeps :) [08:08:24] hola [08:08:31] this message is quite strange: [08:08:33] http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=MediaWiki:Wikibase-propertyedittool-counter-pending-pendingsubpart/he&action=edit&redlink=1 [08:08:40] it just says "+$1" [08:08:46] is there anything to translate there? [08:09:26] i can't say, sorry [08:09:42] if you don't get an answer can you please send me an email? then I'll bother people on monday [08:11:41] looking [08:12:01] i'm looking at all the wikibase messages on translate wiki actually :) [08:48:19] aude, Lydia_WMDE: I am trying to translate according to the glossary and I don't quite understand how to translate http://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Wikibase-propertyedittool-counter/en . [08:48:40] What are "entries"? Items? Or can it be any kind of list? [08:58:23] looking [08:59:21] aharoni: http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/wiki/Data:Q2?uselang=en [08:59:30] it's the "(97 entries)" thing [09:00:58] aude: Thanks. So are these always pages? [09:01:10] i think it might be removed at some point with new UI [09:01:14] :) [09:01:20] aharoni: i think so [09:01:22] OK, thanks. [09:01:54] the qqq message should explain that [09:07:17] added explaination [09:08:25] Thank you! [09:28:58] aharoni: thanks for filing the bugs [09:32:54] aharoni: and is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/18836/ ready to merge? [09:33:08] Yes. [09:33:33] I didn't try to run it, but it's probably trivial. [09:33:43] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18836 [09:33:46] done :) [09:35:08] Thanks. [09:35:34] How often do you update the demo system? Is it close to trunk? [09:35:51] I want to have a complete Hebrew translation ASAP, and to invite he.wikipedia users to test. [09:36:19] I am translating now, will finish soon. [09:37:30] we'll update on wednesday [09:37:56] it'll be nice to see everything in RTL and sure we'll find more things to improve [09:38:12] Good. By that time I will probably have all the relevant docs on Meta translated, too. [09:38:17] ok [09:44:44] aude: What is a "directive" in "wikibase-api-not-recognized"? [09:45:18] Something like a command or a function in a computer language? [09:46:34] looking... [09:55:53] aude: also, this really needs documentation: [09:55:54] http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=MediaWiki:Wikibase-item-summary-wbsetitem/qqq&action=edit&loadgroup=ext-wikibase-repo [09:56:24] It's not clear what $2 is. [10:06:36] aharoni: instead of directive, i'd say "API prop is not recognized" [10:07:23] i think that's how it's used, though think it gets overrided by other api handling stuff in mediawiki and never really gets used [10:07:51] can you make a bug for the directive message? or i can make it a bug [10:08:26] for wbsetitem, i think that message can be removed [10:10:53] aude: If you think that wbsetitem can be removed, just delete it from the English part in i18n.php. [10:16:42] ok [10:21:08] aude: another thing: wikibase-itermbytitle-description says: ²Site is an identifier, typically "enwiki". [10:21:53] is it typically "enwiki" as in "the English Wikipedia", or can it also be "itwiki", "dewiki" etc? [10:32:33] New patchset: Aude; "fix wikibase-item-summary-wbsetitem message, does not need or use param; add qqq message" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18841 [10:32:51] ugh [10:33:47] for one thing, we will remove the superscripts [10:37:35] aharoni: i think that description message is entirely unhelpful and should be removed [10:37:57] if we can think of something useful to say there, we can re-add it later [10:39:14] OK. [10:49:30] i'm just rewording that one for now, but we should rethink how we're doing the special page form to make it a bit more usable [10:53:22] New patchset: Aude; "remove superscripts per bug 39258" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18842 [11:03:16] New review: Aude; "the qqq messages in the i18n file need to explain what the message parameters (e.g. $2) are." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17057 [13:36:20] Lydia_WMDE: Hi. [13:36:55] I'm translating the Wikidata FAQ and there's one thing that can be a bit of a problem when talking to the community. [13:37:12] The FAQ says: "The third phase will focus on lists, to allow automatic list creation based on data in Wikidata". [13:37:36] This doesn't bother me at all, but in the Hebrew Wikipedia some people may say: "We don't allow list articles here". [13:38:00] Perhaps the FAQ should emphasize somehow that it will only *allow* automatic list and not force it on existing sites. [13:55:01] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18841 [13:55:42] * Karol007_ is away: Pracuję albo śpię [13:56:52] * aharoni love Polish! [13:57:01] s/love/loves/ [13:57:51] aharoni: you're right but not sure how to change the wording [14:00:00] Lydia_WMDE is supposed to be the wording spezialist. [14:01:12] sure :) [15:04:41] Lydia_WMDE, aude : in Wikidata/Introduction, what exactly is the meaning of "secondary database"? [15:04:53] That it only includes information that is already found in other repositories? [15:06:04] oh, i read further and understood it [15:06:15] i'm so impatient :) [15:10:13] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updating caching code of the client [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18107 [15:15:17] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updating caching code of the client [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18107 [15:26:53] aharoni: basically everything wikidata offers is optional [15:26:55] including lists [15:27:12] I have an idea for writing this. I'll send you an email very soon. [15:27:19] ok cool [15:27:20] thx [15:27:39] I'm almost finished with translating all the pages in Meta to Hebrew. [15:28:00] And then I'm probably going to ask the Hebrew community. [15:28:57] \o/ [15:29:07] * Lydia_WMDE is excited :D [15:29:50] * aude wish i could read hebrew better [15:29:59] i can read some [15:32:59] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updating caching code of the client [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18107 [16:37:35] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updating caching code of the client [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18107 [16:40:18] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updating caching code of the client [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18107 [16:42:26] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updating caching code of the client and change propagation." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18107 [21:32:02] JeroenDeDauw: is there any wep instance up to play with? (for leave this page) [21:53:17] jeremyb: https://test2.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Education_Program:Columbia_University/Lolcats:_an_inter-disciplinary_exploration_%28Ongoing%29&wpreturnto=Special%3ACourses&action=edit [21:53:21] But need edit rights [21:53:32] no, an instance [21:53:50] something where i can change the code [21:53:59] jeremyb: the instance got corrupted and no one wants to set up a new one :) [21:54:07] Feel free to do so :p [21:54:23] JeroenDeDauw: so what data do you think is needed from the old one? [21:55:02] jeremyb: stuff in the main NS and in the project NS (+ their talks) [21:56:47] ok. nothing from /etc ? [21:56:50] or code ? [21:59:27] JeroenDeDauw [22:01:15] jeremyb: no code [22:01:27] jeremyb: there is the logo... [22:01:34] but I don't think anything important [22:01:38] ok [22:01:39] Maybe also some images, I dno [22:01:43] right [22:01:54] Just the pages I mentioned would be sufficient I think [22:01:54] gute nacht ;) [22:01:58] ttyl [22:37:59] Danwe_WMDE: MERGE MY STUFF ALREADY [22:38:05] Danwe_WMDE: MERGE MY STUFF ALREADY [22:38:06] Danwe_WMDE: MERGE MY STUFF ALREADY [22:38:06] Danwe_WMDE: MERGE MY STUFF ALREADY [22:38:07] Danwe_WMDE: MERGE MY STUFF ALREADY [22:38:07] Danwe_WMDE: MERGE MY STUFF ALREADY [22:38:07] Danwe_WMDE: MERGE MY STUFF ALREADY [22:38:21] Danwe_WMDE: don't force me to throw stuff at you now :) [22:40:18] JeroenDeDauw: Why not ask somebody else, many people in this room :D [22:58:02] [22:59:20] Amgine: the only stuff obstructing my view of Danwe_WMDE, who is sitting 2m right of me, are some half empty clubmate bottles :) [23:00:04] Well, then I guess there is only the question of your accuracy. We should probably test this, to get a baseline... [23:00:29] His aim is pretty good actually^^ [23:00:52] Of course, to be objective, it will have to leave a mark on you. I suggest sponges dipped in paint. [23:01:34] why are people at the office at 1 am on saturday night / sunday morning? [23:09:37] aude: because we party hard [23:10:22] The question is, why aren't there more people? [23:12:55] :o [23:13:21] Not enough pizza/beer. [23:14:13] * aude has to lock my cookies up [23:14:20] can't trust ppl [23:15:06] * aude wants beer [23:18:59] * Danwe_WMDE too [23:24:48] lets join someone in the cuban bar xD [23:25:58] :D [23:31:59] :D [23:32:18] All join to witness Danwe_WMDE playing guitar! [23:32:54] stream? [23:48:29] no, office