[07:46:20] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "fixed sitelink tests which broke after initial sorting was added;" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23402
[07:48:34] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23402
[08:05:54] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "fixed itemdisambiguation test which failed after a css class was removed;" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23403
[08:16:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "fixed selenium itembytitle test which broke after an id class changed" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23404
[08:18:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "fixed php fatal error" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23405
[09:48:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "removed invalid HTML structures" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23089
[10:05:08] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23404
[10:05:52] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23405
[10:06:11] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23403
[10:22:34] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "removed invalid HTML structures" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23089
[10:34:46] <TobiasG_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE: did you update the Wikidata branch a few minutes ago?
[10:36:58] <TobiasG_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE: seems that something broke: try to create a new item with Special:CreateItem. "Fatal error: Declaration of Wikibase\ItemContent::getDeletionUpdates() must be compatible with that of Content::getDeletionUpdates() in ..\extensions\Wikibase\repo\includes\content\ItemContent.php on line 18"
[10:55:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 38843) Refine behavior of wbsetitem" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22487
[11:02:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Werner; "Works. Please do rebase and fixes in separate patchsets in the future, that makes it a lot easier to..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22487
[11:02:11] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22487
[11:07:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Werner; "Clicking edit behaves very funny now, I think the JS doesn't know about the new table cell in the ad..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23089
[11:33:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "added client selenium tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23406
[11:42:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "disabled input auto resize for label/description (DO NOT MERGE)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23407
[12:19:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "defined styles for (disabled) input boxes" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23409
[12:23:25] <CrazyThinker>	 Anyone interested in building a SPARQL browser for wikidata?
[12:27:55] <Danwe_WMDE>	 Erde an DanielK_WMDE
[12:36:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "adapting content classes to change in content base class" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23410
[12:38:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "adapting content classes to change in content base class" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23410
[12:45:28] <CrazyThinker>	 Danwe_WMDE, were you answering my question?
[12:46:15] <Danwe_WMDE>	 CrazyThinker: what question?
[12:46:24] <CrazyThinker>	 never mind
[12:46:37] <aude>	 12:23 < CrazyThinker> Anyone interested in building a SPARQL browser for wikidata?
[12:46:46] <Danwe_WMDE>	 No I didn't answer that
[12:47:54] * aude  thinks it's a cool idea but probably something we can't do anytime soon

[12:48:04] <aude>	 if a volunteer wants to, then okay :)
[12:48:50] <CrazyThinker>	 I volunteer and am looking for a codeveloper
[12:48:58] <aude>	 ah, okay 
[12:49:18] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hey CrazyThinker
[12:49:30] <Lydia_WMDE>	 it'd be cool to have
[12:49:37] <Lydia_WMDE>	 but it will take some time still to be able to do that
[12:50:01] <Lydia_WMDE>	 because we're not yet at the stage where you can store anything besides language links in wikidata
[12:50:05] <Lydia_WMDE>	 that will change now though
[12:50:29] <Lydia_WMDE>	 so i suggest you subscribe to the mailing list and hang around here for now :)
[12:50:40] <Lydia_WMDE>	 and then in a few weeks hopefully we can move forward with that
[12:50:43] <CrazyThinker>	 Thanks Lydia_WMDE 
[12:50:48] <Lydia_WMDE>	 you're welcome
[13:02:39] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23410
[13:22:33] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Danwe_WMDE: whoops
[13:22:37] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Danwe_WMDE: what's up?
[13:22:48] <DanielK_WMDE>	 ah. that stuff
[13:23:17] <DanielK_WMDE>	 TobiasG_WMDE, Danwe_WMDE: breaking change in core just got merged into Wikibase. forgot to submit the fix. will do that in a minute
[13:23:44] <TobiasG_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE: henning already did some fix
[13:23:56] <DanielK_WMDE>	 link?
[13:24:04] <TobiasG_WMDE>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/23410/
[13:24:48] <DanielK_WMDE>	 yep, that does it
[13:24:51] <DanielK_WMDE>	 thanks Henning_WMDE!
[13:25:06] <DanielK_WMDE>	 sorry for forgetting to submiot the fix.
[13:25:25] <Henning_WMDE>	 That's relieving... thanks.
[13:25:30] <Henning_WMDE>	 :)
[13:46:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "removed invalid HTML structures" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23089
[13:46:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Prevent direct editing of structured content." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23413
[14:51:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "Add more verbosity to pollForChanges.php: Dump change object" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23414
[14:53:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 38843) Refine behavior of alias in wbsetitem" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23415
[14:57:52] <jeblad_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE: The patchset 23413, that will block all ordinary content in the main space, right?
[14:58:20] <jeblad_WMDE>	 If mainspace is used as the entity namespace
[14:58:27] <DanielK_WMDE>	 jeblad_WMDE: it will block all ordinary content in the item namece
[14:58:29] <DanielK_WMDE>	 yea, exactly
[14:59:09] <DanielK_WMDE>	 jeblad_WMDE: to be more precise, it prevents the creation of ordinary content via the API
[14:59:11] <jeblad_WMDE>	 Is that what we want? Monopolize the whole main space for items?
[14:59:15] <DanielK_WMDE>	 it does not prevent e.g. import
[14:59:32] <DanielK_WMDE>	 jeblad_WMDE: that was the plan as far as I know, yes. what else could be there?
[15:00:06] <jeblad_WMDE>	 Commons now have descriptive content in main space, that is galleries
[15:00:32] <jeblad_WMDE>	 I think this will block such descriptive content
[15:00:54] <DanielK_WMDE>	 yes, and I don't see any point in having something like that on wikidata
[15:01:16] <DanielK_WMDE>	 but if you have doubts, bring it up at story time
[15:01:36] <DanielK_WMDE>	 as far as I'm aware, this is the intention: have *only* items in the main namespace
[15:01:41] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Denny_WMDE: can you confirm?
[15:02:26] <DanielK_WMDE>	 jeblad_WMDE: if we allow mixing of content, we have to be smart to avoid confusion if someone creates a wikitext page called "Q23", and we hit the ID 23...
[15:03:05] <Denny_WMDE>	 jeblad_WMDE: DanielK_WMDE: i can confirm
[15:03:07] <DanielK_WMDE>	 it would even be possible to replace an item with wikitext. changing content type between revisions is supported (at least in theory)
[15:03:13] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Denny_WMDE: thansk
[15:03:15] <Denny_WMDE>	 main namespace only for items, no descriptive sites
[15:05:07] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Denny_WMDE: we may want a redirect from "Main_Page". Or maybe not - the actual main page is configurable and can (and should) be in the project namespace
[15:05:15] <DanielK_WMDE>	 (or a portal namespace, if we get one)
[15:05:17] <Denny_WMDE>	 as in de.wp
[15:05:40] <DanielK_WMDE>	 yes, in de.wp there is a legacy redirect in the main namespace
[15:05:50] <DanielK_WMDE>	 we currently don't have a mechanism for this
[15:06:13] <DanielK_WMDE>	 it would be easy enough to implement items that are redirects (we'll need that anyway), but we'll need an editing interface for that too.
[15:14:08] <jeblad_WMDE>	 I'm not sure if this is a way to use the main space that isn't without problems, but I do see it will make some weird cases easier to handle
[15:14:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(Bug 39384) invalidating cache after the connecting sitelink got removed" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23418
[15:18:25] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23406
[15:23:16] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23415
[15:23:57] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Add Entity::equals() functionality." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23420
[15:29:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "looks good on a first glance, need to set up client replication to play with it." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23418
[15:42:00] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23420
[15:45:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Ooops..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23414
[15:45:37] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23414
[15:47:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Revert "Add more verbosity to pollForChanges.php: Dump change object"" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23421
[15:48:29] <emijrp>	 when will be deployed wikidata phase 1 and where?
[15:48:57] <jeblad_WMDE>	 its deployed here... :D
[15:49:16] <jeblad_WMDE>	 Rumors says so,..
[15:50:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Prevent direct editing of structured content." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23413
[15:50:42] <emijrp>	 i mean, first wikipedia
[15:51:03] <jeblad_WMDE>	 Moahahaa... And now you want it merged DanielK_WMDE ?
[15:53:11] <DanielK_WMDE>	 jeblad_WMDE: sure :)
[15:53:32] <DanielK_WMDE>	 emijrp: my current inofficial guess is "octoberish"
[15:55:31] <emijrp>	 DanielK_WMDE: and which WP?
[15:57:17] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22441
[16:03:59] <jeblad_WMDE>	 Poff the magic dragon - but I didn't inhale! 
[16:04:07] * jeblad_WMDE  is dropping of the net

[17:23:20] <Lydia_WMDE>	 emijrp: Hungarian first
[17:26:56] <emijrp>	 Lydia_WMDE: curious, why?
[17:27:16] <Lydia_WMDE>	 because they asked basically :D
[17:27:22] <Lydia_WMDE>	 and they have a good size
[17:27:28] <Lydia_WMDE>	 and enthusiastic community
[17:28:18] <emijrp>	 ok ; )
[19:55:11] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23089
[19:58:10] <CrazyThinker>	 Lydia_WMDE, won't wikidate get integrated with wikipedia/wiki in the future?
[19:58:45] <Lydia_WMDE>	 CrazyThinker: hmmm? it will be a sister-project like wikimedia commons for example
[19:58:52] <Lydia_WMDE>	 one that wikipedia will make heavy use of
[20:01:13] <CrazyThinker>	 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_UI_mockup.png
[20:01:32] <CrazyThinker>	 Can't that be another tab in the main wikipedia page of berlin?
[20:02:00] <CrazyThinker>	 and you could have one more link for RDF
[20:02:44] <Lydia_WMDE>	 what is the main wikipedia page of berlin? ;-)
[20:04:08] <Lydia_WMDE>	 (removed office hour from topic - still need to set a date for the next one)
[20:05:18] <CrazyThinker>	 Lydia_WMDE, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin
[20:05:36] <Lydia_WMDE>	 what about http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin ?
[20:05:44] <Lydia_WMDE>	 and all the others?
[20:05:52] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ;-)
[20:06:04] <Lydia_WMDE>	 this is not so easy unfortunately
[20:06:11] <CrazyThinker>	 You could display the same in different langauges 
[20:06:31] <CrazyThinker>	 and I knew that was a trick question when you asked me 
[20:06:35] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :P
[20:06:37] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sorry
[20:44:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "fixed issues with constructor property (wb.utilities.inherit)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23469
[20:44:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Added wb.utilities.newExtension, solved some minor bug in Tooltip.ext" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23470
[20:44:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Base for more direct event handling in UI prototype chain" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23471
[22:01:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Minor cleanup in EditEntity::userWasLastToEdit()" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23475