[07:53:44] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26673
[07:58:05] <TobiasG_WMDE>	 Abraham_WMDE Henning_WMDE Jens_WMDE: ad apple maps: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TiZTmKQEmgI/UG4BXXCAGzI/AAAAAAAAU98/LjLoCjdqsQQ/s796/Auswahl_001.png
[08:26:19] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26646
[08:30:03] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26647
[09:01:33] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Aude; "not needed" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26633
[09:21:46] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26636
[09:31:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Initial cleanup of entity and entity content construction" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26651
[09:43:19] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26649
[09:47:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "please update the class name to ApiCreateClaim" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26650
[09:52:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed class name after rename in ccc40d01616df555d64480470318c2c2b229db4d" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26754
[09:53:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Ah, somehow the tests did not catch this. hitting api.php did though..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26650
[09:58:57] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "it's good with the followup commit" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26650
[10:03:15] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "Rename ApiCreateStatement to ApiCreateClaim and added parameters plus checks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26650
[10:03:43] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26650
[10:04:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "put this fix in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/26650/ so there's not dependency on the entity patch" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26754
[10:06:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "can this be resubmitted with out the dependency stuff?" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26651
[10:07:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "I hope so, either way, I expect you to fix it, as you broke it without good reason to." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26651
[10:11:39] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Aude; "already fixed in another commit" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26754
[10:12:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug #40560) Replace wbgetitems with wbgetentities" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26757
[10:26:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "Initial cleanup of entity and entity content construction" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26651
[10:26:54] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "rebased to eliminate the dependencies" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26651
[10:28:06] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added IntParser tests" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26758
[10:28:06] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added FloatParser tests" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26759
[10:30:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jens Ohlig; "Works." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26591
[10:30:30] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26591
[10:36:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added some point for 0.1 rel of lib" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26762
[10:40:20] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "api.php?action=wbgetitems&titles=Malaysia&sites=enwiki&format=json (for example) is not working for ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26651
[10:41:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updated release notes of repo for 0.1 rel" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26763
[10:43:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "moved submodules of pageobjects to seperate folder for better structure" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26764
[10:47:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updated rel notes of client for 0.1 rel" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26767
[10:48:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Rem PostGres from INSTALL files as supported since we do not currently have setup files for it" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26768
[10:53:36] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Looks legit" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26757
[10:54:06] * JeroenDeDauw  wants a toast

[10:54:11] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Lydia_WMDE: snitchen?
[10:54:33] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: jep
[10:54:46] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26762
[10:54:54] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26763
[10:55:01] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26767
[10:55:11] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26768
[11:00:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "my repo is now creating items with a 'Y' prefix and the API expects a 'Q' prefix." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26651
[11:17:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(Bug #40560) Replace wbgetitems with wbgetentities" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26757
[11:32:05] <aharoni>	 Hallo.
[11:32:25] <aharoni>	 So, the response to the proposal to install Wikidata in he.wp is quite good until now.
[11:32:47] <aharoni>	 8 people support.
[11:33:53] <aharoni>	 As expected, some support, but emphasize the importance of continued support for old-style language links.
[11:35:39] <aharoni>	 One techie said that he wonders how well will it work with the bots - I wonder, too, and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Bots doesn't say much.
[11:36:27] <aharoni>	 (It does say something about "pywikidata", but doesn't explain what it is.)
[11:37:02] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: pywikidata is an addition to pywikipediabot that allows it to work with wikidata
[11:37:08] <DanielK_WMDE>	 several bots are active on the test site
[11:37:28] <DanielK_WMDE>	 perhaps ask the bot owners what they use, and how it works for them
[11:38:34] <aharoni>	 I guessed so, but the header on the page is confusing: "The necessary API will be available later. [[User:Joancreus]] already wrote [http://pywikidata.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html Pywikidata] a proper API."
[11:38:35] <AsimovBot>	 10[1] 10https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Joancreus
[11:39:39] <DanielK_WMDE>	 the use of API is ambiguous here.
[11:39:43] <DanielK_WMDE>	 i'll try to reword is.
[11:39:47] <DanielK_WMDE>	 *it
[11:43:40] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Lydia_WMDE, aharoni: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata%2FBots&diff=4206044&oldid=4192722
[11:44:43] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE, thank you, this is a lot clearer. (At least for people who know that pywikipedia is the most popular bot framework.{{citation needed}})
[11:44:44] <AsimovBot>	 10[1] 10https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:citation_needed
[11:45:55] <aharoni>	 OK, so, a couple of other issues from he.wp discussion:
[11:46:30] <aharoni>	 One user, who is very enthusiastic about Wikidata in general, is confused by the workflow of adding links. As I am :)
[11:47:05] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: hm. how?
[11:47:13] <aharoni>	 At least, pages without links should have an "Edit links" (or "Add links") link, like pages that already have them.
[11:47:23] <DanielK_WMDE>	 i mean, we'd like to provide a nice wizard for on-site editing of links, sure
[11:47:38] <DanielK_WMDE>	 uh...
[11:48:02] <aharoni>	 Yes, the mockups at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Storyboard_for_linking_Wikipedia_articles_v0.3 are nice. But everybody's wondering whether it's planned to implement them for the first deployment.
[11:48:07] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aharoni: there's a technical issue there - that link would take you to a page that lets you create a data item.
[11:48:13] <DanielK_WMDE>	 because without doing that, you can't add links
[11:48:23] <DanielK_WMDE>	 this is all supposed to be automagic eventually, 
[11:48:35] <DanielK_WMDE>	 but i'm afraid it'll take a while until we get around to polishing this
[11:48:50] <DanielK_WMDE>	 but please file a bug report that explains the confusion and describes expected behavior
[11:49:02] <DanielK_WMDE>	 that would be extremely helpful in designing a better interface for this
[11:49:07] <aharoni>	 Going to another page is slightly confusing, but acceptable. But without any interface at all for going there, it's very undiscoverable.
[11:49:24] <aharoni>	 OK, let's see...
[11:49:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "dafuiq? WHY U NO WORK API?" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26651
[11:50:34] <aharoni>	 Before that, one last little question: Somebody wondered about the numbers that come after the Q in the page titles on the repo site. My guess is that they are just random or sequential. Am I correct?
[11:50:54] <Denny_WMDE1>	 aharoni: yes
[11:51:18] <aharoni>	 OK, just wanted to make sure. Good choice :)
[11:53:43] <Denny_WMDE1>	 aharoni: first deployment will be without the nice linking wikipedia interface
[11:53:50] <Denny_WMDE1>	 aharoni: and thus indeed a bit confusing
[11:53:56] <Denny_WMDE1>	 we will try to iterate on that very quickly
[11:54:14] <Denny_WMDE1>	 but we had to make a choice on priorities on the client
[11:54:24] <Denny_WMDE1>	 either to have the changes show up in the recent changes
[11:54:33] <Denny_WMDE1>	 or go for implementing the interface
[11:54:46] <Denny_WMDE1>	 and we chose the first over the latter, expecting higher acceptance through that
[11:56:30] <Denny_WMDE1>	 but the interface is the next prio for the client!
[11:59:01] <Lydia_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE: aharoni: thx
[12:06:20] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Denny_WMDE1: we could still add a link from client pages without a corresponding item, pointing to Special:CreateItem.
[12:06:33] <DanielK_WMDE>	 that would still be a bit awkward, but better than nothing
[12:07:06] <Denny_WMDE1>	 true
[12:07:31] <DanielK_WMDE>	 make an item?
[12:07:51] <Denny_WMDE1>	 done in my todo list, will turn into a bugzilla bug in some soon time
[12:09:11] <aharoni>	 DanielK_WMDE, +1 for "add a link from client pages without a corresponding item, pointing to Special:CreateItem".
[12:36:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Initial cleanup of entity and entity content construction" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26651
[12:37:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Adjust DOM structure of aliases and add edit button for non JS-version" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26599
[12:39:47] <aharoni>	 Denny_WMDE1, Lydia_WMDE, DanielK_WMDE: "'''Claim''' (also called a fact or statement, although this is not completely correct) is a the part of a [[#Statement|statement]] without the [[#Reference|references]]."
[12:39:47] <AsimovBot>	 10[2] 10https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/%23Statement13 =>
[12:39:49] <AsimovBot>	 10[3] 10https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/%23Reference
[12:40:03] <aharoni>	 "is a the part" is probably wrong.
[12:40:13] <aharoni>	 probably should be "the part".
[12:40:57] <Lydia_WMDE>	 aharoni: ah you mean the "a the" part?
[12:40:59] <aharoni>	 Also, repeating "statement" like this is quite confusing. Maybe it's better to just avoid calling them by these not-completely-correct names :)
[12:41:00] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yes
[12:41:08] <Denny_WMDE1>	 delete "a"
[12:41:12] <Lydia_WMDE>	 will fix
[12:41:27] <Denny_WMDE1>	 yes, the synonyms can be removed
[12:41:32] <Denny_WMDE1>	 they are confusing
[12:41:39] <Denny_WMDE1>	 it is just that sometimes people use them
[12:41:49] <Denny_WMDE1>	 and they do overlap
[12:41:54] <Denny_WMDE1>	 maybe remove the overlapping ones
[12:44:24] <jeblad_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE: spelling errors in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/26628/
[12:58:55] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26651
[13:08:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "update client to work with EntityFactory" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26784
[13:10:11] <DanielK_WMDE>	 jeblad_WMDE: thanks!
[13:10:34] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26784
[13:10:57] <jeblad_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE: There is also a mix of upper/lowercase of api and json, but I didn't bother complaining over it
[13:14:10] <DanielK_WMDE>	 hm, right
[13:14:30] <DanielK_WMDE>	 jeblad_WMDE: i submitted a followup and added you and aude as reviewers... before i merge again, perhaps have another look ;)
[13:14:56] <jeblad_WMDE>	 hehe, no problem! =)
[13:15:16] * jeblad_WMDE  loves complaining.. ;)

[13:15:25] <Nikerabbit>	 DanielK_WMDE: hola
[13:16:22] <DanielK_WMDE>	 hi Nikerabbit
[13:16:40] <DanielK_WMDE>	 will be going through your comments soon
[13:27:01] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Silke_WMDE: the page text that is searched on indeed does not include NS
[13:27:11] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Silke_WMDE: however it appears to be easy to add an option to filter on NS
[13:27:20] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Silke_WMDE: I will do that now
[13:28:08] <Silke_WMDE>	 \o/ 
[13:42:59] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE: looks good
[13:43:50] <DanielK_WMDE>	 thanks
[13:51:01] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Silke_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/26792/
[14:38:42] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Silke_WMDE: did you figure out the git version info on special:version?
[14:40:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(Bug #40560) Replace wbgetitems with wbgetentities" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26757
[14:41:17] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "patchset 3: fixed conflict in repo/Wikibase.php" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26757
[14:41:20] <Silke_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: No. Didn't have time.
[14:41:28] * Silke_WMDE  adds this to her list...

[15:43:26] <wm-bot>	 Change on 12mediawiki a page Extension:Wikibase was modified, changed by Jeroen De Dauw link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=590916 edit summary: 
[15:44:06] <wm-bot>	 Change on 12mediawiki a page Extension:Wikibase Client was modified, changed by Jeroen De Dauw link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=590917 edit summary: 
[15:44:12] <wm-bot>	 Change on 12mediawiki a page Extension:WikibaseLib was modified, changed by Jeroen De Dauw link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=590918 edit summary: 
[15:56:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "use entity instead of item for onArticleDeleteComplete" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26807
[16:25:07] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Silke_WMDE: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ApprovedRevs
[16:25:28] <Silke_WMDE>	 thx
[16:27:39] <jeblad_WMDE>	 Here is something for JeroenDeDauw , a cat suicide! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrJt0wm-xLk
[17:55:18] <Sk1d>	 wuhu i just managed to run my bot on my server.. even with python 2.4... (ok it needed a lot of "work arounds" aka crapy code... but who cares...)
[17:59:50] <JeroenDeDauw>	 jeblad_WMDE: that cat landed on your head and scratched the hair of or what?
[18:00:03] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "handle undeletion of entities on client and repo" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26815
[18:00:08] <jeblad_WMDE>	 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eY4qU80lPM
[18:00:14] <jeblad_WMDE>	 Its hillarious!
[18:01:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "handle undeletion of entities on client and repo" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26815
[18:02:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "todo: update tests although it could be in a follow-up" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26815
[18:03:20] <aude>	 yay Sk1d! :)
[18:07:32] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Sk1d: \o/
[18:12:32] <jeblad_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE: ?
[18:34:15] <aharoni>	 curious: see http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/wiki/Q321
[18:35:00] <aharoni>	 Notice the name of the Catalan item.
[18:36:10] <aharoni>	 It's actually visible in the history: http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/w/index.php?title=Q321&diff=34186&oldid=34185 , http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/w/index.php?title=Q321&diff=next&oldid=34186
[18:36:50] <aharoni>	 I wonder whether it's somebody experimenting or a bug.
[18:40:23] <jeblad_WMDE>	 people are experimenting all the time
[18:42:26] <jeblad_WMDE>	 its properly escaped! =D
[18:43:14] <joancreus>	 wut Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 32 bytes) in /var/www/wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/w/includes/db/DatabaseMysql.php on line 204
[18:43:51] * joancreus  achievement unlocked!

[18:44:04] <jeblad_WMDE>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40804
[18:44:33] <joancreus>	 oh ok
[18:45:18] <jeblad_WMDE>	 cookies to the one that can identify the root cause
[18:45:41] <jeblad_WMDE>	 it seems to be at test, possibly at the beta branch, and not in the master
[18:46:14] <joancreus>	 jeblad_WMDE: in my case, it was saving an article (hydrogen, q320) that has lots of entries
[18:46:23] <joancreus>	 via API
[18:46:25] <joancreus>	 (not web-interface)
[18:46:38] <jeblad_WMDE>	 Unless someone finds it during the weekend I guess we must set up a server with the betabranch and start poking
[18:47:22] <jeblad_WMDE>	 Pri 1 is to check if it is in the beta branch, but as test is from thursday and betabranch from friday it seems likely
[19:23:19] <aude>	 aharoni: it's a bug :o
[19:23:41] * aude  put that there and we need to fix

[19:24:49] <aharoni>	 aude, it's obviously not how Helium is called in Catalan. if you were just checking that it escapes things correctly, then everything is fine.
[19:26:49] <aude>	 it shows &lt;html>
[19:26:57] <aude>	 escapes the < but not the >
[19:27:05] <aharoni>	 Two Hebrew speakers complained that they received some network connection errors when they tried to play with the client and the repo, and they were sure that their network connection is fine.
[19:27:20] <aharoni>	 Are you aware of any network problems on the server?
[19:27:45] <aude>	 i think silke was working on stuff but not sure it'd affect the test systems
[19:28:15] <aude>	 labs probably having a bad day?
[19:29:50] <aude>	 aharoni: do you have a link to the hebrew comments about wikidata?
[19:37:35] <aude>	 Danwe_WMDE: are we working now on removing the remove link from the item page?
[19:37:57] <aude>	 e.g. on the board or is it not on the board?
[19:37:59] <Danwe_WMDE>	 no, that's not part of the current sprint afaik
[19:38:02] <aude>	 on
[19:38:07] <aude>	 next one
[19:38:08] <Danwe_WMDE>	 no, it's not
[19:38:37] <Danwe_WMDE>	 it would interfere with our current refactoring I think
[19:38:54] <Danwe_WMDE>	 with the getting all edit links into HTML
[19:39:05] <aude>	 oh, ok
[19:39:17] <aude>	 when that is done ....
[19:40:05] <Danwe_WMDE>	 aude: why? are u out of things to do?
[19:40:07] <aude>	 thanks
[19:40:23] <aude>	 aharoni asked on the mailing list
[19:40:38] * aude  has plenty todo :)

[19:42:50] <aharoni>	 aude, see last thread on https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:VP
[19:42:53] <aharoni>	 (bottom)
[19:42:55] <aude>	 aharoni: thanks
[19:43:09] * aude  can sort of read and also use google translate

[19:44:41] <aharoni>	 aude, some words you may find unusual: "בינוויקי" = "interwiki"
[19:44:48] <aude>	 let's install hyacinths :)
[19:44:59] <aharoni>	 yep, that too :)
[19:45:00] * aude  can read "wikidatum"

[19:45:16] <aharoni>	 that's because "נתונים" = "data".
[19:45:25] <aude>	 yes
[19:46:28] <aude>	 the badge thing is a good idea and we should put a bug about it in
[19:46:46] <aharoni>	 in the first comment, "מגניף" = "cool" (in a very unusual spelling).
[19:46:54] <aude>	 heh
[19:47:21] <aharoni>	 (it may or may not be influenced by the French "magnifique")
[19:50:28] <aude>	 i can somewhat pronounce the letters and see that
[19:50:49] <aude>	 denny might not like it, but here https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40810
[19:51:06] <aude>	 if users want it, we can put it on our to-do 
[19:51:16] <aude>	 although not sure how trivial it is to implement
[19:52:59] <aude>	 aharoni: i wonder about the connection errors......
[19:53:07] <aharoni>	 aude, thank you. It's not urgent, because the current templates still work. And if it appears in the glossary, then I suppose that it's somewhere in the roadmap.
[19:53:17] <aude>	 ok
[19:54:05] <aharoni>	 Polishing the links adding/removing workflow is the most urgent issue, at least as far as I see.
[19:54:14] * aude  nods

[19:55:05] <aharoni>	 the number after Q: is it random or sequential? (it's not important at all, I'm just curious.)
[19:55:41] <aude>	 it's sequential
[20:00:19] <aharoni>	 thanks.