[00:02:03] it would be nice if a bot would start with a smaller wiki to import iw's [00:02:05] Guerillero: English seems to be the lingua franca. Period. [00:20:37] Well, the code that is deployed seems fairly stable.. [00:25:15] Reedy: only that one api action was renamed shortly after branching [00:25:36] lol [00:25:52] It'll catch up [00:26:52] * PiRSquared can't figure out how to add aliases via the API [00:27:31] wbsetitem [00:28:02] Romaine: why a smaller wiki? [00:28:24] Merlissimo: link to a page on how to use, please [00:28:33] PiRSquared: wbsetitem was the answer for you [00:29:05] i can grep a item that my bot just creates from log, mom [00:29:11] a smaller wiki has basis of articles, without specialistic articles, so that the core articles are with lower number [00:29:20] but it is fine to use en-wiki as well [00:31:57] and less chances of breaking the wiki :p [00:32:30] PiRSquared: http://kpaste.net/b2cefa [00:32:48] lol. [00:34:57] Romaine: my but is adding items while doing its normal interwiki bot job. i created the wikidata feature because the bot has all needed data. [00:35:15] that is also a smart idea [00:35:15] PiRSquared: just asliases and a json array als value [00:37:38] Romaine: i extended the first version for wikidata in about an hour or so. but that was only possible because my bot always uses tarjan to detect groups. [00:38:10] my internal data model is completly different to pwb [00:38:22] I an curious to see how a bot adds iw's [00:39:57] You could make your bot do a few edits [00:53:36] I can't get nds as language while we have such Wikipedia... [00:54:15] nds is missing in the language list [00:54:45] Plattdüütsch (nds) [00:54:46] WFM [00:55:28] WFM? [00:55:51] sorry, my mistake [00:58:43] nds works for me [00:59:31] Reedy: i am still writing my bot flag request ;-) [01:00:16] BAG will want sampel edits :p [01:00:42] Merlissimo: just make 3 edits r so [01:01:19] Romaine: do you like a special item updated? [01:01:43] do one with much iw's [01:01:53] ^ [01:01:57] do a few [01:02:50] Russia would do good [01:02:59] Wikipedia too [01:03:00] In Soviet Russia, Wikidata updates you! [01:03:18] 257 and 248 iw's [01:03:21] heh, nice [01:03:22] DO IT [01:03:47] :p [01:04:18] https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciaal:MeesteInterwikiverwijzingen [01:04:43] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MostInterwikis [01:05:11] Russia‏‎ (257 interwikis) [01:05:11] True Jesus Church‏‎ (255 interwikis) [01:05:11] United States‏‎ (253 interwikis) [01:05:11] Wikipedia‏‎ (248 interwikis) [01:05:12] Germany‏‎ (247 interwikis) [01:06:03] In Soviet Wikidata, sitelinks add YOU! [01:06:08] lolwut :O [01:06:08] Romaine: have you seen my 65k edit today: http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/wiki/Q137159 [01:06:10] Russia above :p [01:06:31] and Kurów‏‎ on #17 xD [01:11:24] Merlissimo: how is Russia? [01:12:23] mmm, Someone did Wikipedia by hand :S http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q52 [01:12:52] o_O [01:13:34] and a lot others [01:15:23] That's dedication [01:15:41] or editcountitis [01:16:38] haha [01:16:45] not their fault it requires an edit each ;) [01:17:06] That really needs to be fixed :S [01:17:11] yeah [01:17:24] as it's all JS-y, most of the work should be done.. [01:18:03] Reedy: so, using the API, you can add more than one at a time? [01:18:46] [00:32:23] PiRSquared: http://kpaste.net/b2cefa [01:19:03] though, I guess that's a set all, not add these... [01:19:09] no, ignore that [01:19:15] {"language":"ca","value":"Gran Premi de Bèlgica de 1954","add":""} [01:19:36] So... is it possible or not? [01:20:41] Yes, it is [01:20:56] I was meaning ignore the "set all" comment [01:21:13] oh, I wasn't sure what I was supposed to ignore [01:22:03] Reedy: just detected that my pastebin above is too new for wikidata.org. i have to check out an older version of my bot. [01:22:22] haha [01:22:31] but these json data object are much more complicated [01:23:32] using array is not possible at wikidata.org (it was added in september, but that code is not reviwed by wmf) [01:23:41] ppfff, edit conflicts [01:30:17] * Merlissimo still think that the action name change should be backported to wikidata.org to not have future api breakage [01:31:15] Ask when they're around in the morning [01:31:22] I'll deploy it tomorrow [01:31:35] well, today, post sleep [01:32:19] Reedy: i also asked the wikidata developers but the answer was not clear [01:32:32] lol [01:38:37] Merlissimo: please keep us informed about a bot edit, I go to sleep now [01:39:30] Romaine: I tried starting at dewiki:Russland, but it stopped because of a bigger conflict :-( [01:40:19] this was a bad test case [01:41:23] but also successful, because the script caused no problems [01:45:10] mysql:wikiadmin@db34 [wikidatawiki]> SELECT table_schema "Data Base Name", SUM( data_length + index_length) / 1024 / 1024 "Data Base Size in MB" FROM information_schema.TABLES WHERE table_schema = 'wikidatawiki' GROUP BY table_schema; [01:45:11] +----------------+----------------------+ [01:45:11] | Data Base Name | Data Base Size in MB | [01:45:11] +----------------+----------------------+ [01:45:11] | wikidatawiki | 103.54204178 | [01:45:12] +----------------+----------------------+ [01:45:14] 1 row in set (0.75 sec) [01:48:27] XMLHttpRequest cannot load http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RecordImpression?banner=2012EditorSu…rvey2012&userlang=en&db=wikidatawiki&sitename=Wikidata&country=GB&bucket=1. Origin http://www.wikidata.org is not allowed by Access-Control-Allow-Origin. [01:57:01] Reedy: this is because wikidata.org not added to http origin header [02:02:10] I had made them go away before... Mostly [02:55:18] Reedy: i am getting session errors from api and cannot find the cause because http request look as expected. i'll have to investigate in the problem tomorrow. It's getting too late and i have to sleep [07:30:55] Articles I edit do not add to my watchlist [07:31:21] (And I checked "Add pages and files I edit to my watchlist" in the prefs) [07:35:38] hi fabriceferrer [07:35:51] hi aude [07:37:09] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41573 [07:37:24] here's a bug for that and hope we can get that fixed soonish [07:37:47] Thanks aude :) [07:37:54] definitely a bug [07:40:48] other pages (Talk:, Wikidata:) are automatically added, though [07:41:19] (those edited the "traditional" way) [07:43:21] New patchset: Aude; "remove shared table settings from client" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30947 [07:47:27] New patchset: Aude; "add $wgWBExternalRecentChanges setting to enable or disable the external RC stuff" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30948 [07:47:53] fabriceferrer: i see that [07:59:30] New review: Aude; "Reason that I use a global variable setting here as I think it will work more easily and out of the ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30948 [08:05:49] It was probably already reported, but... when you add an alias, the edit summary is wrong //www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1&curid=129&diff=24013&oldid=23588 [08:05:52] http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1&curid=129&diff=24013&oldid=23588 [08:06:15] I can see no reason for the "and removed" [08:06:31] i think that's fixed in our latest (not yet deployed code) [08:07:17] ok [08:08:06] there is a bug for it though [08:08:11] we will double check [08:08:32] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41535 [08:16:46] I know this is a detail but the rendering of a page with monobook is quite strange. We have some space between the tabs and the page itself. [08:17:07] +1 [08:36:03] * Lydia_WMDE waves [08:36:31] Zil: i think there is a bug for it that a volunteer can pick up [08:36:33] one sec [08:36:49] Hello Lydia_WMDE. [08:36:59] Zil: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40704 [08:37:36] (there are more bugs/tasks for volunteers marked with the keyword need-volunteer if anyone is interested) [08:43:47] did you folks already see http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#SlurpInterwiki_script ? [08:43:50] this is awesome! [08:43:55] \o/ [08:44:12] editcountisis here I am [08:44:24] -s+t [08:44:24] 04Error: Command “s+t” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written. [08:44:30] erm [08:46:02] Lydia_WMDE: Yes, people are massively importing interwiki now... [08:46:10] :) [08:46:20] we don't need no bots :D [08:57:41] fyi: we're mindboggloed here by ~4 edits/second [09:05:59] the most active wiki ;) [09:08:44] hehe [09:20:13] graaaaa http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Leag&offset=20121031090714&limit=5000&target=Leag [09:21:26] fabriceferrer: ? [09:22:20] Lydia_WMDE: If I am not mistaken, he already has 10000+ contribs [09:22:37] fabriceferrer: ohhh my [09:27:19] ah Leag :) [09:34:02] Question : For the moment, only wikipedia-interwiki are allowed in wikidata ? [09:34:41] dcrochet: jep [09:34:56] fyi: if you want to follow the status of improvements of the search follow https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36423 [09:37:05] hum, the search engine is not so good that we can expect. Exemple, if I search "paris", the search engine say may 30 times the same page [09:37:18] -may +me [09:37:18] 04Error: Command “may” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written. [09:37:45] dcrochet: yes that's why my link to the bug above :) [09:37:57] we're aware that it is painful atm [09:37:58] yes, a see that [09:42:23] Sebleouf: tu essayes de rattraper Leag ? ;) [09:43:08] fabriceferrer: oh non c'est pas le but, mais comme j'ai vu qu'on peut faire ça très vite, autant le faire très vite [09:43:19] Vu le boulot monstre qu'il y a à faire [09:43:35] is there an error with moving pages currently? (Wikidata namespace) [09:44:17] MF-W: not aware of any - details? [09:45:27] Lydia_WMDE: I tried to move https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/Archive/2012 to 2012/30/10, but it always gives an "internal error" [09:47:10] MF-W: hmmm bad [09:47:29] MF-W: where did you want to move it? [09:47:34] then i can give it a try [09:47:35] ah [09:47:38] nvm [09:47:58] * Lydia_WMDE tries [09:48:48] MF-W: meh [09:48:50] i get it too [09:49:04] can you file a bug please [09:49:14] sure [09:49:23] component Wikidata? [09:49:45] MF-W: repo [09:49:48] wikidata repo [09:49:51] thanks! [09:49:58] ok [09:51:30] Lydia_WMDE: I tried it now with suppressredirect, that worked [09:51:48] MF-W: interesting... [09:51:50] Lydia_WMDE: Is it possible to begin an RFC in order to discuss about the inclusion of not-article pages into Wikidata (Category, Hep...) [09:52:00] Tpt: totally [09:52:05] Tpt: go ahead please :) [09:52:23] Lydia_WMDE: Ok. I'll work on it. [09:52:30] thanks! [09:53:15] Lydia_WMDE: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41574 [09:53:23] MF-W: cookie for you :D [09:53:30] aude: ^ [09:53:37] :D [09:53:49] Tpt: if you need help, I totally support you [09:55:57] Lydia_WMDE: thanks [09:56:12] either danielk or i can fix that [09:56:52] When I look at this, I believe there is an issue : http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:AllPages [09:57:16] Zil: no that's basically it but it is not useful - we need something better [09:57:21] ideas welcome [09:57:29] Shouldn't it be ordered by number ? [09:57:29] good morning world [09:57:35] anything happened? [09:57:39] Zil: oh good point [09:57:41] Sannita: Good I suggest to work here: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:RFC/Inclusion_of_not-article_pages [09:58:02] Zil: i suggest file a bug for it [09:58:12] looks like it's treated like strings for sorting [09:58:18] aude: Ok. [09:58:30] Tpt: ok, I'll be there in (hopefully) less than a hour [09:58:30] We have I think to prepare a vote of one week with a section for each possible namespaces (Category, Help, Wikipedia) [09:58:45] those are the page names with "Q" so it'd be a bit of hacking to make it more sophisticated [09:59:02] like all items, all properties (when we have other types of data stuff) [09:59:16] Tpt: ok, so you're thinking of doing a poll of every namespace or...? [09:59:42] and why voting? ([[WP:VOTE]]) :p [10:00:09] Sannita: Sorry I'm from fr Wikipedia where people love vote. [10:00:15] LOL [10:00:42] haha [10:00:44] Tpt: well, on it.wp we're trying to reduce the amount of votes :) [10:01:14] to me is ok, anyway, we just have to think of who should be eligible to vote [10:01:29] Sannita: It's a very important question and I don't think we will have a big concensus. [10:01:34] since this is a fairly new vote [10:01:42] *project, sorry [10:02:03] Tpt: agree, that's why I'd like to talk about it too [10:02:03] I suggest: auto-patrolled users of a Mediawiki project. [10:02:17] seems legit [10:02:35] [[test]] [10:02:35] 10[1] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/test [10:02:40] gotta go, be there in a few moment, I hope [10:02:58] aude: Is it ok ? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41575 [10:03:21] Zil: perfect [10:03:34] Thanks... [10:05:07] Lydia_WMDE: AsimovBot already links to wikidata.org, as Daniel Kinzler suggested me yesterday :) [10:05:24] jem-: \o/ [10:05:25] thx [10:06:33] Tpt: I'm talking with a fellow sysop on it.wiki, I think he could help too with the ns=/=0 vote [10:06:46] Np :) [10:22:54] I've began a discussion tread: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:RFC/Inclusion_of_not-article_pages [10:23:25] If no concensus is found we will make a vote but, after refflectionion, [10:24:03] * reflection, I think that we might wait a day in order to see what the community think. [10:35:08] Tpt: J'ai donné un avis sur cette page. [10:35:20] Zil: Merci [10:37:05] * Lydia_WMDE doesn't speak french :( [10:39:03] hey Lydia_WMDE, I have a question for you [10:39:12] Vito: shoot! [10:39:13] I think I can make it in a reasonable French if you like :p [10:39:17] lol [10:39:52] I saw a request for bureaucratship and I'm wondering if wikidata will be manageable by stewards the same [10:40:04] I'd suggest to avoid opt-ing out from global sysop set [10:40:48] and actually I'm always afraid of setting up local bureaucrats on small communities [10:41:09] Vito: I fully agree with you [10:41:38] I agree, we should wait until the community stabilize [10:41:47] I'm not against local bureaucrats but the initial rush for flags can be an issue [10:42:06] one of our experienced wikipedians (jeblad_WMDE) had the same concern today [10:42:16] i think local admins are ok [10:42:34] but local crats should wait until the initial rush is over [10:42:40] and possibly even a few months [10:42:51] who is there now will be very different from in a few months [10:43:17] the only current candidate is a good fellow, not experienced but I'm quite sure he will take a serious business [10:43:38] if i were a steward, i would give out adminships now [10:43:41] anyway I'd wait for [10:43:46] but would say exactly what you said about crats [10:43:51] even if he is a good fellow [10:44:00] let the community grow a bit [10:44:38] I supported some candidate, but if there are other supports I can give some flags [10:45:28] As you are all on wikidata.org now, it won't matter that the demo system is broken until after demo time, right? ;) [10:45:41] yesterday I processed some deletion requests and I saw some users are quite realiable [10:46:24] Silke_WMDE: a beta project is supposed to be a beta project ;) [10:46:31] Silke_WMDE: yes, that is fine [10:46:38] wait [10:47:16] so I'm ready even to see all turning blinking pink [10:47:37] by experience, I know that most of the early candidates for adminship will stop contributing after a few weeks [10:47:41] Vito: heh no she's talking about the test system - not wikidata.org [10:47:52] oh I see [10:47:54] fabriceferrer: yes that's also my fear [10:48:33] fabriceferrer: that's why I don't want to have a project relying only on them [10:48:46] yep [10:49:06] I saw too many wikis with MIA-bureaucrats [10:49:15] actually I'm wondering about temporary flags [10:49:25] but no big deal anyway, you can distribute a few adminships I think [10:49:34] of course [10:49:43] there's much job to do [10:50:26] and I have an announce [10:50:27] spambots found wikidata [10:50:41] so get ready to see xrumers in action [10:50:46] ha [10:50:56] I'm quite sure xrumer cannot edit main namespace [10:51:09] but they will soon start creating userpages [10:51:12] The small icone on the title of the page is the one of Mediawiki office... Is it normal? [10:51:44] so I *strongly* advice to avoid setting up local checkusers (even if there were enough supports) [10:52:01] Zil: you mean the favicon? [10:52:07] The favicon... [10:52:13] Yes. [10:52:35] Zil: no, it should not be. i hope it is a cashing problem. [10:52:36] it should be this: [10:52:49] http://www.wikidata.org/favicon.ico? [10:53:06] nope [10:53:10] On the beta, I've got the correct one. [10:54:20] The strange fellow in th Wikidata office, is he supposed to be here? =) [10:54:21] * jeblad_WMDE hides [10:54:38] Denny_WMDE: I've got this one : http://www.wikidata.org/favicon.ico [10:55:17] The favicon should be like the ordinary logo [10:55:20] When there is a question mark, it is correct but otherwise it is not. [10:55:35] Zil: cashing problem [10:55:46] the question mark just forces to clear the cache [10:55:58] Ok [10:56:01] it seems some caches are still on the old one [10:56:17] it should get better over time, but yeah, i have that too [10:56:29] it depends for me on the browser i use, but it is not replicable [10:56:32] :P [10:57:24] I don't have correct favicon in any browser [11:00:17] neither do I [11:07:41] I now have back the old (wrong) favicon in my chrome. I already had the correct one yesterday. weird.. [11:07:59] Depends on the squid ? [11:09:09] yes, might depend on the squid [11:10:32] you can check the squid serving your from the sourcecode [11:15:45] Sebleouf: you're incredibly fast [11:15:47] o.O [11:15:58] ^^ [11:15:58] it's tiring [11:16:56] just 20 more minutes and you will reach 30,000 contribs :) [11:17:17] With this script it's extremely fast if you do simultaneously several pages [11:17:44] I check all new pages since the first [11:17:57] Zil : je crois que t'as un Dereckson collé au derrière [11:17:59] I have just 228 edits and just 7 deletions .__. [11:17:59] I'm around #700 [11:19:53] oh you are doing it from the beginning (Q1 --> Q1600) o_O [11:21:12] Yes I try, but I'm tired :p [11:21:46] And I don't check all pages [11:22:00] Just <1 ko [11:22:15] more than half od the edit in the last 4 hours. [11:23:09] More than half of the edits on wikidata has been made in the last 4 hours. [11:27:33] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Rename testTermArrayStructure, it's not a test." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30960 [11:28:02] Sebleouf: I would give you botflag :D [11:28:08] If you want ^^ [11:29:42] aude: who can update ULS for wikidata.org once the new version is deployed? [11:29:55] Sebleouf : that's it. You just reached 30,000 contribs [11:30:09] Good :p [11:30:42] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Use plain table name when calling Database::delete." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30961 [11:31:46] Thats nearly half of my contribs in Norwegian bokmål edition of Wikipedia! O_O [11:33:41] jeblad_WMDE: He doesn't reach yet the 250 000 contribs on fr.wp [11:34:11] It makes the definition of a newbie a bit difficult.. [11:35:06] 30 days of active contribution ? [11:36:09] How much contribs are needed to have the autopatrolled flag ? 2 millions ? [11:38:16] I think I have more log actions than contribs [11:38:22] 2 million edits for autopatrolled? o_O [11:39:56] TobiasG_WMDE: Reedy probably [11:43:55] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Make ApiBotEditTest robust agnst non-sequential IDs." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30963 [12:08:30] Reedy: people are reporting bugs to the wikidata component on bugzilla. do you think you can give that to us now that wikidata is launched? [12:08:40] i fear there'll be a lot of confusion otherwise [12:12:48] Sebleouf: you have also written a script? [12:13:01] js? [12:13:02] no I use tpt's script [12:14:55] maybe you should rewrite it to reduce new number of edits by combining serveral actions [12:15:35] atm rc shows neraly only you [12:16:31] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30170 [12:16:42] Lydia_WMDE: is it really wanted that each item has a history of 300-400 edits initially? [12:16:55] yes, I do too much pages in the same time [12:16:59] I will reduce [12:17:23] Merlissimo: not much that can be done about it i fear [12:18:13] Sebleouf: you can use wbsetitem, which can set label, aliases and sitelinks for multiple languages at the samt time [12:18:21] causing only one edit [12:18:35] ahhh [12:19:09] Nikerabbit: would you know why red link alt tags (for Main Page language links) are non-English for me even when I'm logged in and set my language to English? [12:19:11] wbsetitem will change, so be aware.. [12:19:11] I didn't know that a script like this exist [12:19:52] jeblad_WMDE: on wikidata.org? when? i just have check out an old version of my bot to be wikidata.org compatible [12:20:06] Sebleouf: http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/wiki/Special:Contributions/MerlIwBot [12:20:37] I think we could open for bots, but it scares the other people here [12:21:04] jeblad_WMDE: i mean the change of wbsetitem [12:22:12] my wbsetentitiy and array sopprting part was to new for wikidata.org. that why i already rolled back to an old version for some of my classes [12:22:12] wbsetitem will evolve into wbsetentity [12:22:27] but that even not on testwiki [12:23:22] Its an upcoming new release for wikidata and there will be breaking changes, but some (merlissimo) has already coded for much of the new stuff [12:23:50] No wbsetentity is not anywhere except on the board for todo [12:26:24] Merlissimo: Tpt said that on the API documentation, you should have only one edit per entry. [12:26:36] Or one entry per edit. [12:28:01] Merlissimo: That's why it has been coded that way. [12:28:02] Zil: isn't this what my bot is doing? [12:28:18] ah entry [12:28:29] it depends on the api module [12:30:11] Merlissimo: I don't know at all the right answer but this morning I was asking Tpt about the way the script was written. [12:31:25] my problem with the script is that it does not check for interwiki conflicts and add langlinks at one local wiki things that they are right [12:33:18] jeblad_WMDE: so? I can't use wbsetentity yet? [12:34:07] Merlissimo: It add only interwiki for languages that are not already in Wikidata. [12:34:09] This script is powered by a human so we can think that the human will check imported data. [12:34:32] Tpt are you sure Sebleouf checks every edit? [12:35:18] Merlissimo: No, and it's a seblouf problem not a problem of the script. [12:35:40] yes i think so too [12:35:47] But we can add a warning in the widget showed by the script. [12:35:47] oh [12:37:30] :( [12:38:45] * Vito blocks the Vandalbleouf [12:39:19] Tpt / Sebleouf can you comment on my bot flag request? perhaps because of you work, you have some questions about the bot script [12:40:20] Seblouf: It's not an attack against you, I only want to say that it's the work of the user to check if the interwiki are right. [12:42:05] yes I understand [12:42:33] On famous topics like great people or countries, I think it's ok [12:43:04] Sebleouf: solving interwiki conlfict is are hard job, that mus be done be humans. having initially imported conlfict to wkidata causes much more work [12:44:48] Sebleouf: i have a database of nearly all conflict. on frwiki there are about 27900 in article namespace or outgoing langlinks only [12:45:33] (and much more because im incoming langlinks conlicts) [12:46:03] hm ok [12:46:15] so I'll stop. [12:47:37] Tpt: I'd suggest to add a prompting "diffpage" to your script [12:47:51] I mean a list of links which are gonna be added [12:48:14] ‎Wiki13 is also using the script i think [12:48:26] me too [12:48:28] and Leag, and Ayack, and... [12:48:31] yup [12:48:32] indeed [12:48:41] but I'm focusing on omonyms [12:49:09] Tpt: you you add a feature that checks if the outcoing langlink has a backlink on the other wiki before adding? [12:49:14] I'm not really concerned if there are bots or scripts, but we should think about how to qualify the on-going work [12:49:18] Much users are using it [12:49:33] Vito: we need flaggedrevs, i think [12:50:06] Merlissimo: or at least patroller group [12:50:11] Pri 1 right now is to let people have fun, then slowly turning to how we can increase the quality of the work [12:50:28] yep, now we need a critical mass of stuffs to work on [12:50:43] jeblad_WMDE: the initial fun is lowering quality [12:51:46] I think that a really great script would be one that created a diff the user then saves, but unfortunatly we can't save large chunks of edits [12:51:54] We only save atomic changes [12:52:14] With one exception, wbsetitem/wbsetentity [12:52:42] But that doesn't have any diff-type of functionality [12:53:54] jeblad_WMDE: wikidata.org has already 217 sitelinks where the target does not exists [12:54:05] I would really like to have some tools to inspect the quality of an item, and especially to check if the sitelinks makes sense [12:54:13] (deleted after item was created) [12:55:14] Merlissimo: I've not add the feature but I'll maybe add it. If you do it I will be very happy to add it in the code but we might be do an UI to see these bugs. [12:55:43] Thats why we need some of the additional special pages we didn't make so far, especially those for the tiresome maintenance jobs [12:56:10] wow I find a page needing a deep inspection [13:00:38] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Entity selector jQuery widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30136 [13:12:06] jeblad_WMDE: is api login working for you? i am getting a wrong encoded token [13:12:51] /api/login [13:12:51] /api/login:result=Success [13:12:51] /api/login:lguserid=3280 [13:12:51] /api/login:lgusername=MerlIwBot [13:12:52] /api/login:lgtoken=�������������������������������� [13:12:58] /api/login:cookieprefix=wikidatawiki [13:13:12] /api/login:sessionid=cbeaa516ca3b4aee1f0fd14dec0529e [13:13:26] * Vito steals Merlissimo's token [13:14:23] Vito: you'll need some tries. i removed one letter of sessionid [13:14:40] that's why i posted it a bit later [13:14:43] :D [13:14:45] I have to make just 16 attempts :p [13:15:10] 17 *(24+10) [13:15:21] ähm, 17 *(16+10) [13:16:01] Reedy: ^^ [13:17:11] We have not did anything with login so ordinary login tokens should work.. [13:17:35] I'm not sure https is set up for wikidata.org.. [13:18:45] the reposnse of the second login request is invalid [13:18:51] i am using http [13:23:38] login on every other wmf wiki works [13:25:05] lol [13:25:16] that slurp interwiki script is cool [13:25:16] emijrp: can you login using api? [13:25:47] i didnt test it [13:25:51] jeblad_WMDE: the lgtoken characters are all byte order marks [13:26:42] emijrp: can you test it, so that we have a second script programmed by a different developer for validating? [13:27:15] i dont know how [13:27:22] i us epywikiepdiabot [13:27:23] use* [13:27:36] never tried to make a login bot [13:28:05] but you can login and check the token in your cache, because pwb writes it to disk [13:29:09] whoever wrote the wikidata family file for pywikipediabot: [13:29:11] thank you! [13:30:33] loging in on my local host through the api works [13:30:55] jeblad_WMDE: and on wikidata.org? [13:31:11] wikidata-test-repo is also ok [13:31:18] by the way, ... bots add interwiki 1-to-1? or in a batch? [13:31:27] that is a mess for the page histories [13:31:40] TobiasG_WMDE: there's pile of code in gerrit to approve [13:31:43] emijrp: look at my bot at testwiki [13:33:06] Merlissimo, try to log in through the browser once [13:33:23] There was some issues with unified login [13:35:02] the local account was created on monday, i'll try [13:35:56] jeblad_WMDE: still not change on api login [13:36:29] jeblad_WMDE: so api login works for you? [13:37:03] I never log in through the api [13:37:27] But I checked through apisandbox on my localhost [13:38:27] also also tried my other php framework. same wrong lgtoken [13:39:26] so it is not my script. Os it only realted to few accounts or a bug affecting all acounts [13:40:30] no same for my other accounts Merlissimo and MerlBot [13:40:36] i just used pywikipediabot, but i have to admit that i was evil and i was not using a bot account but my normal one [13:40:43] and i was logged in in the browser [13:41:39] Could it be that it fails because it tries to log in as a bot? [13:41:53] New patchset: Aude; "cleaning up recent changes code, ExternalRecentChange stuff to handle more stuff" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30809 [13:42:11] didnt test, i just ran it cause i had to change the licensing footer [13:42:53] jeblad_WMDE: there is no difference for bots and normal users [13:43:30] login as described on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Login#How_to_log_in [13:43:38] * Silke_WMDE_ reminds you: 15 minutes till code freeze... [13:44:09] Sorry Silke_WMDE_ , I havn't got time for anything today! [13:44:37] * jeblad_WMDE must log off internet to be able to code for websites [13:44:54] i'll open a bug [13:45:06] Lydia_WMDE: I have sent a mail to wikidata-l but its awaiting moderation. no idea why :( [13:45:13] Reedy: will check :) [13:45:35] eh [13:45:41] Raymond_: ^ [13:45:42] Lydia_WMDE: you should work on you tab [13:45:52] Merlissimo: yeah :( [13:46:00] Raymond_: message has implicit destination [13:46:07] i'll moderate it [13:46:23] Lydia_WMDE: what is meant with "implicit destination" here? [13:46:53] Raymond_: list only in bcc or cc for example iirc [13:47:23] Lydia_WMDE: ohhh my fault I think. thanks :) [13:47:39] np [13:55:59] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30566 [13:56:28] 5 more minutes till code freeze [13:57:29] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30568 [13:57:56] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30574 [13:58:17] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30579 [13:58:40] New patchset: Aude; "show deletion log instead of diff for RC when items are deleted" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30981 [13:59:26] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30136 [13:59:51] * Silke_WMDE_ is impressed ^^ [14:02:24] OK, cool - code freeze and AnjaJ_WMDE is free to tag [14:04:38] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Improved case insensitive lookup of terms" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30984 [14:04:51] Wikidata team: can I have your github account names? [14:05:57] ajlydiapintscher [14:06:01] bah [14:06:04] AnjaJ_WMDE: lydiapintscher [14:07:23] AnjaJ_WMDE: silke [14:08:19] i created https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41586 for my login problem [14:10:05] thx Merlissimo [14:12:20] Lydia_WMDE: my problem is that i currently do not see sb. from wmf online that i could ping for this bug on irc. and bug that i only create on bugzilla normally take weeks until they are solved [14:13:11] Merlissimo: poke me please if it didn't get attention by tomorrow [14:15:43] Lydia_WMDE: (we already talked that i live in NRW...) [14:18:14] *nod* [14:26:09] emijrp: is this like a chain letter Leinad welcomed you, you me, and i have to ....? ;-) [14:26:32] someone with red talkpage [14:26:37] : P [14:26:58] but please not all my bot accounts [14:27:12] but i got no mail for talk page change [14:30:10] Wikibase, Diff and DataValues are tagged: 2012-10-31 "Version deployed on Halloween 2012" [14:30:23] now that a lot of people fill Wikidata: is "but be aware that any content may be lost if we have to reset the database." still valid? [14:31:13] Raymond_: we'll remove it soon i think [14:31:22] Lydia_WMDE: ok [14:36:58] New patchset: Aude; "adding some i18n to the recent changes lines" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30998 [14:37:18] Lydia_WMDE: just curious, is there any channel for wikidata on the Wikimedia IRC? [14:37:39] Wiki13: jep #wikipedia.wikidata iirc [14:37:45] ok [14:38:27] You meant #wikidata.wikipedia probably :P [14:41:10] bah :D [14:41:12] maybe ;-) [14:41:45] :) [14:46:22] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Supply required timestamp in ChangesTableTest." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30999 [14:52:44] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Magically run ALL of the test functions. I dont always run the tests, but when I do, I run all of them" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31000 [14:53:04] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Fix regarding the API change of wbsearchentities" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31001 [14:59:42] is User:Stryn here? [15:02:17] great tool that SlurpInterwiki [15:04:11] +1 [15:04:38] +1 [15:05:02] i hope you are checking recentchanges for vandalism [15:05:06] well, it is being rage flooded [15:05:29] plop [15:05:45] AnjaJ_WMDE: that is another bug in mediawiki itself [15:05:52] AnjaJ_WMDE: do you want me to find the number? [15:10:40] Nikerabbit: that would be nice [15:12:50] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Refactor ApiModifyEntity w/subclasses to use serialization" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31004 [15:15:09] New review: John Erling Blad; "Lots of errors, must be checked" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31004 [15:16:20] New review: John Erling Blad; "Its the wbsetitem that fails as id and type is removed from ApiModifyEntity. Also wblinktitles fails." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31004 [15:23:11] AnjaJ_WMDE: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32686 [15:23:26] New review: Daniel Werner; "I'd suggest having some sort of test runner. You would just define objects for your tests, without t..." [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31000 [15:23:26] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31000 [15:27:38] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30960 [15:29:59] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30999 [15:41:34] argh.. I propose to block everyone who copies templates from enwiki :/ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Documentation [15:41:38] :P [15:45:25] MF-W: differnt to other new wikis most "supporters" have not experience with new wikis [15:46:07] http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2238&action=history [15:46:25] Looks very botlike... 42 edits in a minute? [15:46:44] Merlissimo: I've deleted enough broken copies of en templates all over incubator - they can't shock me ;) [15:47:11] Reedy: sb. created a gadget which simply copies local langlinks [15:47:20] Ah [15:47:51] most users simply ignore conflict in a global context [15:48:01] Reedy: have you seen https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41586 [15:48:35] No [15:48:59] I'll have a look when I've caught up with other things [15:50:09] it's the reason why i cannot do test edits (out talk yesterday) [15:50:18] mmm [15:57:40] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Refactor ApiModifyEntity w/subclasses to use serialization" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31004 [15:58:19] and did not regonized it on a first look, because login is successful. the errors message was invalid session, but session is also ok. but not the wikidataToken [15:58:39] wikidatawikiToken [16:01:06] for browser login it works because the additional centralauth token/session cookie can replace the wikidatawikitoken [16:01:59] The wiki is getting like 200 edits per minute atm... [16:03:19] Reedy: that whould be less than one item a minute [16:07:09] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "I have several suggestions for improvement. The only thin critical is the one in SqlStore.php. That'..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30984 [16:07:46] I wonder if it's worth being in NL for the NL conference... [16:07:54] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30947 [16:09:11] Lydia_WMDE: do you have some concern if I'll start assigning some flag? or do you plan to wait, do it by yourself, etc? [16:09:29] Vito: which flags? [16:09:39] sysop flags [16:09:41] HAHAHA 200 edits/minute is the English Wikipedia rate. [16:09:54] definitely! [16:10:08] we need autopatrol asap [16:10:21] Vito: we're in the demo of the last sprint atm - i'll get back to you about it [16:10:30] ok! [16:10:56] but I see you have already 'crat flag, so I might be useless ^^ [16:11:00] Slurpflag for interwiki importers [16:11:46] but also "editmaniac" one [16:11:59] hehe [16:12:26] lol [16:12:42] getalife flag [16:13:04] lolz [16:13:29] Vito, I already have autopatrol :P [16:13:42] GR ofcourse :) [16:13:56] emijrp: there is currently no positive reposone on my bot flag request for a well tested script. and you want to add it for everyone? [16:13:58] this is a bit silly, a bot can do what we do in some days [16:14:08] Wiki13: oh I see [16:15:00] lol, 6000 edits already... [16:15:33] database nuke in 3, 2, 1... [16:15:40] oops, my finger slipped [16:16:02] hahahaha [16:16:05] We really need the multiple edits simultaneously code backporting/including [16:16:19] Page edits since Wikidata was set up 184,132 [16:16:19] Average edits per page 58.77 [16:16:51] Reedy: and that number is still rising very fast [16:16:59] multiple edits per second [16:17:07] he [16:17:16] I think the average will be around 80edits/page [16:17:18] I think I might mark the databased readonly.. [16:17:19] that is why this kind of stuff is good to do with a bot... [16:17:42] http://toolserver.org/~emijrp/wikimediacounter/ [16:17:44] yup [16:18:57] Vito: an item cannot have more than one edit/second [16:19:34] mediawiki does not support this [16:19:35] Merlissimo: I mean the average number of edits per page [16:19:44] when phase 1 will be out [16:20:03] Vito: how many edits of yours are failing because of edit conflicts? [16:20:03] Merlissimo: why not? [16:20:08] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Avoid fatal error when some test messes up $wgUser." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31016 [16:20:36] Merlissimo: not som many actually [16:20:48] emijrp: mediawiki enforces unique revision timestamps [16:21:05] no [16:21:37] then how people edit 180-200 times per minute? [16:21:55] not on the same item [16:22:28] emijrp: scripts? [16:23:06] aude: we are talking about edit conflicts [16:23:26] Merlissimo: sure [16:24:10] i have not followed all details, but you (developers) talk about the prolem the the revsion timestamp need to be unique and that a sleep 1 is added to reduce the problem [16:24:36] Merlissimo: that's in the tests but nor sure that solves the problem here [16:24:57] also, i think we lack a good automerge ability [16:24:58] emijrp: a real good script to automatically add iw's [16:25:03] (not that wikipedia's automerge is good) [16:25:25] but if people edit in different sections (different sitelinks) of an item, we should be able to auto merge it [16:25:42] whereis the wikitext for every page? [16:25:48] im interesting in see the wikicode [16:25:53] interested* [16:26:36] emijrp: no wikitext [16:26:40] it's json [16:26:56] * aude brings up the api [16:28:07] when will it be possible to make an internal link to a wikidata page? [16:29:14] and images? [16:29:45] https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&titles=Q30&rvlimit=1&rvprop=timestamp|user|comment|content&format=jsonfm [16:29:50] Merlissimo: login seems to work fine for me in AWB - http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AReedy&diff=185951&oldid=7 [16:29:57] kind of messy but it's like htat [16:30:12] and it's treated as special type of content vs. wikitext [16:30:41] Reedy: does awb uses the api reponse or the set-cookie headers? [16:31:22] i see [16:31:42] why Q-- ? [16:31:44] Merlissimo: http://p.defau.lt/?Cpi422OTGj0WzjWzWskUIA [16:31:51] emijrp: it's a entity type prefix [16:32:04] right now we have just items (item = Q) [16:32:09] we will have properties and queries later [16:32:28] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Improved case insensitive lookup of terms" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30984 [16:32:32] those will get a different prefix [16:32:54] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Data_model_primer [16:33:01] if you want to read up on things.... [16:33:49] Reedy: still not working for me [16:37:51] * Silke_WMDE_ is updating demo repo and clients [16:37:58] yay! [16:39:40] Lydia_WMDE: Do you think I can use the wikibase RessourceLoader module (wikibase.js and wikibase.Site.js) for my script ? [16:40:12] Tpt: almost certain they will change [16:40:25] if you can tolerate breaking changes like that, then yes [16:42:16] aude: Thanks. I'll wait before using it. I haven't a very important use of it. [16:44:28] Tpt: ok [16:44:42] * aude hopes things will stabilize soon, at least for the site links [16:44:50] with the phase 2 stuff, there will be a lot of new stuff [17:16:30] Denny_WMDE1: Abraham_WMDE1 Lydia_WMDE aude DanielK_WMDE Danwe_WMDE AnjaJ_WMDE Silke_WMDE_ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDeG4S-mJts [17:17:11] lol [17:17:20] Page edits since Wikidata was set up 209,176 [17:17:20] Average edits per page 60.68 [17:18:03] o.O [17:18:03] THIS IS SPARTA [17:18:03] sorry, i mean [17:18:08] this is due to the smaller contribution size [17:20:11] holy... 10 edits/sec now o.O [17:20:26] even more then that [17:22:33] wut, I logged out... [17:31:14] Reedy: i have changed ym bot script to ignore site token wikidatawikiToken and use centralauth session/username/token instead. that works. [17:32:09] Lydia_WMDE: I guess this issue is on the to do list already? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Bobo11 ;) [17:32:24] MF-W: looking [17:32:56] MF-W: jep :/ [17:33:27] Denny_WMDE1: lol, wb_changes is back to being the largest table in the database, already [17:33:54] demo repo, English and Hebrew clients are updated [17:37:42] Reedy: :P [17:37:48] Reedy: just truncate it automatically every 10 minutes. we don't need it atm, and tomorrow we'll have a switch for turning it off. [17:37:58] Reedy: how will you be available tomorrow? [17:38:06] so we can take another look at ULS [17:38:21] Yeah, I'll be around [17:38:35] sweet, thanks [17:38:40] i need to talk with siebrand to figure out the status [17:38:49] did you go to the new head [17:38:52] or did you go back to the old changeset? [17:39:03] oh wait i can check that myself in special version, sorry for bother [17:39:31] I didn't revert it [17:41:54] oh [17:41:57] then i am slightly confused [17:42:08] ok, i will wait for tobi tomorrow [17:42:09] he will know the status [17:42:22] doesnt seem to be critical right now [18:02:45] Romaine: my first test edit: http://wikidata.org/wiki/Q2914 [18:04:40] strange [18:04:55] I seem to logout without doing something [18:04:59] ... [18:07:09] Hi. [18:07:24] What I create doesn't get into the watchlist, despite the pref. [18:08:00] AVRS: maybe it is set to not show your own edits? [18:09:30] Lydia_WMDE: no, it was not added. [18:09:40] Lydia_WMDE: maybe it will now that I relogged in? [18:10:10] AVRS: oh you mean it doesn't automatically add the page to your watchlist? [18:10:17] yeah that doesn't happen on the item pages [18:10:24] we have a bug report for it t [18:10:24] i think we have a bug ticket for that [18:10:53] ok thx [18:22:23] MF-W: thanks! :) [18:22:35] np :) [18:24:52] New review: John Erling Blad; "This is work in progress, but I forgot to mark it as such" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30055 [18:26:51] Wiki13: we have had that problem, but it should be gone now.. [18:27:12] ok, thanks! [18:27:26] Try to empty you cache, clear your cookies, and then log in again [18:31:44] New review: Daniel Werner; "also, needs rebase" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30055 [18:32:59] DanielK_WMDE: $globalKeyToIdMap = $sitesTable->selectFields( array( 'site_global_key', 'site_id' ), array( 'site_global_key' => $globalIds ) ); [18:33:14] one line btch query that gets you the thing in a format you can directly use :p [18:35:01] Lydia_WMDE: i startet test edits [18:35:42] Merlissimo: ok - please keep it to test edits still :) [18:35:56] i hope you can all survive until the end of the week [18:36:10] Lydia_WMDE: what is the difference between my script the the others? [18:36:30] the others at least have some human doing it who is responsible for checking [18:36:38] for one [18:37:20] (and yes i know this sucks for some people but please beliefe me that it's for the better in the long run) [18:37:25] Lydia_WMDE: nobody of the high rate editors is checking its edits [18:37:39] they should be looked at harshly then ;-) [18:38:07] creating item with conlfict on a global view is better? [18:38:43] it's not about the items [18:38:51] but about people working on the project and getting a feeling for it [18:38:53] connecting to it [18:39:14] so good feeling vs. quality [18:39:20] no [18:39:43] that's a false dichotomy (sp?) [18:40:42] * aude thinks the bots take some of the fun away, at least initially [18:40:59] not sure about the scripts but i think they require an item to already be created [18:41:16] Lydia_WMDE: "dichotomy" is the correct spelling. :-) [18:41:26] after some time, we'll need the bots i think [18:41:30] James_F: \o/ [18:41:35] do i get a cookie? [18:41:43] Lydia_WMDE: Online the textual form. ;-) [18:42:19] it's fun to be the person who creates the items.... the low hanging fruit [18:42:38] James_F: good enough i guess [18:42:43] * aude created item "Toilet paper orientation" :D [18:43:06] lol [18:43:10] important! [18:43:24] win [18:48:47] Wow aude... I just learn something. I didn't there was an orientation of toilet paper... Jesus, all these years, I was wrong. [18:49:27] heh :) [18:49:54] Benoit-Rochon: you missed out! [18:50:31] Can't wait to get out of office to change this... it might fix what wrong in my life... [18:50:53] don't get your expectations up too high just yet [18:50:54] ;-) [18:51:05] Merlissimo: Your bot adds html-stuff in labels, probably also in descriptions [18:51:25] Merlissimo: Tags like simply does not work [18:52:10] Merlissimo: Example http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3092?setlang=en [18:52:49] Yeah, movie are italic in WP [18:53:02] jeblad_WMDE: oh, thx [18:53:51] Basically we htmlescapes everything we can assume to be plain text [18:57:21] Lydia_WMDE: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3341 [18:58:39] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#One_interwiki_link [18:59:39] We need those items to be able to create the infoboxes later [19:02:23] jeblad_WMDE: the documentation only contains sub, sup, '' and ''' [19:02:49] hm? [19:02:57] Should I reopen https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41575 ? [19:02:57] Anyone would know why tags

are not working here : http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Bistro [19:03:02] jeblad_WMDE: many of these articles without langlinks are missing in connection [19:03:11] jeblad_WMDE: for displaytitle [19:03:41] Which displaytitle? [19:03:54] i am using displaytitle as label [19:04:02] Can you point me to documentation and an item [19:04:36] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilfe:Variablen#Funktionen [19:05:14] Only way to do super and subscript in a label and description is to use UTF-8 characters [19:05:20] Zil: we'll have to fix that but probably not by fixing this bug but instead creating a different special page - that's on our list already [19:05:33] Zil: so i think it's ok to keep it closed [19:05:36] ok [19:07:46] found it : float: left; was braking the thing [19:08:35] New patchset: Aude; "store rc_bot in change info blob" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30803 [19:22:03] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Introducing maintenance/populateSitesTable.php" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31065 [19:22:58] Wiki13: we have had that problem, but it should be gone now.. <- it still happens to me btw [19:23:01] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Introducing maintenance/populateSitesTable.php" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31065 [19:23:14] Doesn´t seem to fixed :S [19:23:20] be [19:27:44] hi there... somebody talking French ? [19:28:04] salut Benoit-Rochon :) [19:28:11] Bonsoir Hélène [19:28:25] hsarrazin: Coucou. [19:28:31] Wiki13, then I have no good explanation what is happening to you [19:28:37] coucou Tpt :) [19:28:45] .... [19:29:01] It still logs me out without any reason [19:29:17] Seems only to be happening at Wikidata.org [19:32:17] Merlissimo: I had dinner [19:32:24] Merlissimo: great! :-) [19:32:32] Is there a way to see all the labels and descriptions of an item? [19:32:32] please to the rest of the articles too :p [19:32:49] AVRS: not yet - there is a bug for it iirc [19:33:09] I added a couple items which are not to be synchronized with interwikis, because interwikis are wrong. [19:33:22] So the description is important. [19:33:29] Romaine: Lydia_WMDE does not want bots to start before weekend [19:33:51] it is already after the weekend :p [19:33:58] E.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3074 — there may be no interwiki conflicts, but… [19:33:59] Reedy: wrong weekend ;-) [19:34:01] 326 items in an hour, thats a lot! [19:34:04] or did she specify which weekend? ;) [19:34:18] AVRS: *nod* [19:34:27] jeblad_WMDE: for scripts? no [19:34:53] No you can't run your bot! =) [19:34:58] hsarrazin : Tu as une questions ? [19:35:44] Romaine: the question is: why need i a bot flag. For not spamming rc? haha [19:36:08] salut Benoit-Rochon :) - oui, en fait je cherche ce que je peux faire pour aider sur wikidata... [19:36:35] st-ce que tu sais lire l'anglais et traduire [19:36:46] j'ai installé le bot de Tpt, et j'essaie de mettre des étiquettes en français quand je vois qu'il n'y en a pas sur des articles qui passent en modifications... [19:36:54] Romaine: please see above about traffic rules [19:37:00] mais je ne suis pas du tout sûre que ça soit utile pour le moment... [19:37:24] traffic rules? did I miss something? [19:37:28] Benoit-Rochon: oui, je lis et j'écris l'anglais couramment... enfin, correctemet ;) [19:37:36] Romaine: yes [19:37:44] Romaine: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q3074&action=history [19:37:56] Romaine: I've created the item because interwikis are wrong [19:38:05] Romaine: I want the item to be about general articles [19:38:32] I think you should first fix the interwiki's on the local projects, this has no result... [19:38:44] Romaine: but some of the interwikis are to articles about a specific country's rules, or rules with a specific names [19:38:52] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Editing [19:39:06] AVRS: would it be possible to put information about that in your article, so as to avoid multiple link imports... and deletions ;) [19:39:13] hsarrazin : Je te donne un lien ci-dessus [19:39:28] hsarrazin: I've added descriptions under the labels for that! [19:39:31] it is very difficult to fix such thing first on Wikidata, while the local projects still show the wrong ones [19:39:34] hsarrazin: but someone has already changed one :O [19:39:36] AVRS: but sorry [19:40:28] avrs I don't see it... probably because I work in French :) [19:40:44] hsarrazin : toute la section Help est à créer : http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Contents [19:41:19] hsarrazin: yes, that's what I asked about above… [19:41:22] Benoit-Rochon: :DD il faudrait déjà que je sache ce que je fais :DD [19:41:54] hsarrazin : Ha, ben oui... dsl, je pensais que tu savais! [19:42:31] I wonder if it's ok to remove the interwikis in Wikipedia though… [19:42:37] That will make more clusters. [19:42:44] sure, there it should happen [19:43:32] I'll just cut the group down to what I made on wikidata. The incomprehensible ones have likely been added blindly. [19:43:44] hsarrazin : Et ben tu peux trouver un article au hasard, la plupart n'ont pas de libellés, ni de descriptions : http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Random [19:44:00] Ça va te faire pratiquer! [19:44:37] Benoit-Rochon: c'est ce que j'ai fait pour commencer... :) [19:44:41] ok [19:44:44] mais il n'y aurait pas des tâches un peu plus "méthodiques" ? [19:44:59] C'est à dire ? [19:45:05] moi, ce qui m'intéresse, ce sont les Auteurs... [19:45:20] c'est OK de créer les nom des personnes, ou pas encore ? [19:46:26] Oui, comme quoi [19:48:26] hsarrazin : Si l'article existe dans WP, peu importe la langue, c'est valide ici. [19:48:41] Benoit-Rochon: ok, merci... [19:48:54] je vais commencer à rentrer des écrivains... [19:48:59] Cool [19:50:26] hsarrazin: Pour l'instant, il n'y a de la place que pour des interwiki. Les nfobox, c'est la phase 2. [19:50:39] New review: Hashar; "What about not using $wgUser anymore ? Cant you craft a user dedicated to that test class?" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31016 [19:51:01] Benoit-Rochon: j'avais bien compris... mais pour reprendre les infobox, il faut bien que les articles existent, non ? [19:51:58] Non, pas nécessairement... Mais les infoboxes c'est dans la phase deux, toujours en developpement. [19:52:40] tpt ton bot, il vérifie s'il y a des "nouveaux" liens ? ou il affiche "liens importés" même s'il n'a rien importé ? [19:52:43] Si une page n'existe pas dans WP-fr, mais elle existe dans WP-en, l'infobox sera affichée tout de même [19:53:10] Il affiche lien importé même s'il n'a rien importé. [19:54:13] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(Bug 41594) Create option to disable wb_changes table" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31074 [19:54:37] Merlissimo: I've added a warning message. Could you check it and modify it if needed ? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Tpt/slurpInterwiki.js [19:55:58] Tpt: thx [20:00:43] tpt: could you add the Dutch one too? I´ll PM you for that. OK? [20:00:56] the warning [20:00:58] :) [20:01:13] Wiki13:Of course :-) [20:01:50] hi :) [20:01:59] * kondi looks around [20:02:19] Cyrax Hi [20:02:20] Benoit-Rochon: j'ai entrepris de traduire http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Editing en français :) [20:02:47] PArfait [20:02:53] MErci [20:03:02] il est indiqué "pour créer un article, cliquez sur "Add" (Ajouter ou Créer), mais je ne vois ça nulle part... il est où ce bouton (ou ce lien) ? [20:04:32] New review: Reedy; "How does this work if you've already got entries in the database?" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31065 [20:05:54] hsarrazin: C'est [[Special:CreateItem]] [20:05:56] 10[1] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:CreateItem [20:07:02] zil AsimovBot merci :) [20:07:09] ça ne serait pas plus commode un peu plus en vue ? [20:07:45] hsarrazin: Si, je pense mais le système est un peu en béta. [20:07:58] Zil: ok :) [20:13:13] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Introduced Term interface and maintenance script to rebuild the term search keys" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31078 [20:20:32] Tpt: I don´t know if you missed, but I PM´ded the translation for that warning. [20:20:42] it [20:22:40] hsarrazin: I wanted to ask you to change the French label/description to the one I wrote in English, Esperanto and Russian [20:23:38] wikidataaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [20:23:52] On changing interwikis themselves, I guess it'll be easier to decide first and change next… the English change has been reverted. I reverted back, but am not sure the reverter will agree, because there is no English article which fits, and many interwikis are being changed [20:25:29] Tpt, I think you should shift to wbsetitem, it would really speed up your script [20:26:02] Benoit-Rochon: ça te paraît correct ? http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Editing/fr [20:26:29] Tpt, and also you should perhaps consider using the sitelinks title as a first iteration for the label in the sites own language [20:26:38] Wiki13: Sorry, I have'nt pay attention. [20:26:45] A small issue with the help page: it starts with talking about Add, which is confusable with creation. [20:27:05] AVRS: could you please give me back the link ? I worked on many pages since :) [20:27:06] entry vs item [20:27:09] Tpt but then note that the first letters of the site identifier is not in general similar to he language code of the site [20:27:14] Oh ok, did got the PM? [20:27:20] you [20:27:29] hsarrazin: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3074?setlang=en [20:27:34] Wiki13: Yes. [20:27:36] ok [20:28:39] AVRS: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3074?setlang=fr [20:28:47] jeblad_WMDE: Yes, I've written this script in order to be compatible only with wikipedia. When Wikibase will be more stable I think it might be a good idea to use wikibase.Site [20:29:13] jeblad_WMDE: Ok, I'll move to wbsetitem [20:29:28] thanks for adding it! [20:29:31] hsarrazin: the articles SHOULD NOT be country-specific [20:29:41] I really like the tool [20:29:41] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Bump to 0.1 and updated doc files" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.1.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31081 [20:29:42] hsarrazin: country-specificness is bad [20:29:55] hsarrazin : C'est super, merci [20:29:58] avrs that's what I wrote - non spécifique à un pays [20:30:23] hsarrazin: not "not necessary country-specific"? [20:30:29] Benoit-Rochon: j'ai essayé d'être un peu plus claire que la version en anglais, que je trouve ambigue [20:31:20] hsarrazin : Haha, bien vrai. Mais ça semble ambigue pour tout le monde. [20:31:34] en particulier, la notion de entry, item, article, page et très "confusionante" ;) [20:31:36] tpt: could you delete the word ¨toe¨ there. Made a mistake when translating it :S [20:31:52] I want to apologize for that [20:32:02] AVRS: Non spécifique à un pays -> Not country specific... English write in the wrong order. [20:32:11] Zil, hsarrazin: ok, thanks :) [20:32:12] Wiki13: Done [20:32:23] Zil, hsarrazin : wait [20:32:33] And drive on the wrong side of the road... WE drive on the RIGHT side. [20:32:33] Zil: look: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3074?setlang=fr [20:32:34] thanks again [20:32:44] "toutes les règles de circulation, pas nécessairement spécifiques à un pays" [20:32:51] Merlissimo: is your code public? [20:33:13] There is nothing RIGHT in driwing on the LEFT side [20:33:13] ah [20:33:13] AVRS: I've got "toutes les règles de circulation, non spécifiques à un pays" [20:33:14] * AVRS reloaded [20:33:17] :) [20:33:23] hsarrazin: thanks [20:34:00] AVRS: il devra y avoir un article pour chaque Code de la Route national alors ? [20:34:00] emijrp: not the complete framework, but i can give you the wikidata part. but it's in java [20:34:23] hsarrazin: oui. [20:34:23] AVRS: pardon : will there be an item for each national Code ? [20:34:30] mmm i thought it was python Merlissimo [20:34:44] Wiki13 I see you've done what I was about to do. :) [20:34:45] hsarrazin: there are at least 3 articles on the UK one [20:34:56] Benoit-Rochon: j'ai commencé https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3816# [20:34:57] hsarrazin: probably no other groups [20:34:57] huh? [20:35:05] (except for the general one) [20:35:12] emijrp: my interwikibot is in java [20:35:21] hsarrazin: one solution for _the other_ articles could be to add templates about making them non-specific [20:35:49] hsarrazin: but I don't know if 1. there are templates in all the wikipedias, 2. if people will agree more to that [20:36:16] translate the warning. [20:36:20] AVRS: you mean to make templates on wikipedias ? :DD [20:36:23] good luck !! [20:36:54] kondi: into Hungarian? into German? [20:37:20] into English! [20:37:26] lol [20:37:30] :) [20:38:09] ok, there is a German one [20:38:11] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Globalize [20:39:27] AVRS doing an article country-specific for rules on the road could be interesting. [20:40:16] is this ok? http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3938 [20:40:24] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updated readme and release notes" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31100 [20:40:32] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31100 [20:40:43] avrs doing an history of adoption of the rules and so on. [20:40:43] Zil: maybe half of the articles in the interwiki group of Highway Code were country-specific [20:41:11] Zil: some were completely specific, not even mentioning that other countries have rules [20:41:39] Zil: But "Highway Code" is about the UK, and e.g. the French Wikipedia has articles both on that and a general one [20:41:56] The French are right. [20:42:00] :D [20:42:09] :D [20:44:02] Hola, Ignazio [20:44:16] Hola PiRSquared17 [20:46:08] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31074 [20:46:50] Lydia_WMDE: how are you today? [20:53:34] Reedy: you told me it was possible to add more than one interwiki in one edit, no? [20:53:49] Yes, using the api that isn't deployed yet on wikidata.org [20:53:54] ah [20:53:55] with a bot [20:55:20] PiRSquared17: http://wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/MerlIwBot [20:56:00] the recentchanges are getting almost "too" fast IMO [20:56:17] if we could add more than one iw at a time we could fix that [20:57:24] we should have bots doing this stuff already [20:57:47] every human interaction has a higher risk for mistakes [20:59:22] and to prevent bots to make mistakes there is a possibility to ignore iw's if there is an interwiki-conflict [21:02:06] Romaine: my bots first big one change: http://wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q219&diff=prev&oldid=265597 . but labels and aliases are only added if also the sitelink did not exist before [21:02:06] PiRSquared17: Lydia has left the building! [21:02:54] Wikidata may be on a faster server [21:03:07] No.. [21:03:45] the format of the bot edit may also be more human readable [21:03:51] format of diff [21:05:10] Merlissimo: how do you check if page exists in wikidata? [21:05:24] wbgetitem [21:05:38] Merlissimo: seems to be a good work :-) [21:05:52] Restu20: then vote for the bot [21:06:06] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Bump to version 0.2" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31121 [21:06:16] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31121 [21:07:18] emijrp: i am checking every page that should be part of the some item. you can do it in one request [21:08:05] emijrp: most of my bot time is spend on requesting redirects for creating aliases [21:08:07] did you solve the token issue? [21:09:05] no, i have rewritten my script to read and use centralauth cookies instead [21:10:49] I've filed an rfa (User:Kondicherry). Support, comment, or something else. ^_^ [21:12:02] Tpt: script like hotcat using a prefix, so that it is visible that the script is used. Maybe this is useful for your script, too [21:12:41] you can add summary=.... [21:13:51] * PiRSquared17 used to be editcount #1. Now he's in last place [21:15:14] * jeblad_WMDE would like aliases and labels [21:15:14] http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?diff=266639&oldid=266636 <- it did worked in 1 edit o.O [21:15:51] nice [21:16:00] no spam in the RC! :D [21:16:42] yayy [21:17:42] Wiki13: what did you change? [21:17:49] nothing [21:17:57] you still spam the RC :P [21:18:03] why [21:18:30] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Disable phase 2 special pages and API module" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31124 [21:18:32] Sebleouf: do you know why so many sitelink to wiki with a language contains a bar are missing? [21:18:34] lol [21:18:44] I´m jsut eic :) [21:18:45] just [21:18:49] epic* [21:18:51] ... [21:19:22] like nls-nl bat-smg [21:20:01] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Bump to 0.2 beta" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31125 [21:20:05] New review: Reedy; "Or, I guess, I mean, shouldn't this (optionally?) empty the sites table out first?" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31065 [21:20:15] Change abandoned: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31125 [21:20:40] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Bump to 0.2 beta" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31126 [21:22:02] again! [21:22:08] http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4104&diff=266888&oldid=266874 :P [21:22:16] ... [21:22:18] well [21:22:44] Wiki13: you won't get an edit count to show-off with this way :P [21:22:53] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Bump to 0.3 alpha" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31127 [21:22:58] gimme a sec [21:23:14] I´m gonna to test something [21:23:18] MF-W: my bot (when approved) will have the lowest edit count on this wiki. nice [21:23:29] Wiki13: why not adding labels? [21:23:34] hmhm [21:23:42] MF-W: XD [21:23:42] huh? [21:23:54] * Merlissimo [21:23:54] I did add it? [21:24:14] in my language [21:24:36] How does one get the list of sitelinks for a page? [21:27:44] It keeps happening :o [21:27:56] http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4124&diff=267063&oldid=267060 [21:31:13] * Lydia_WMDE is back [21:31:21] PiRSquared17: exhaused but super happy :) [21:31:26] PiRSquared17: and you? [21:31:35] Wiki13: labels are needed for people in other languages, not just your language [21:31:49] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Improved case insensitive lookup of terms" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30984 [21:32:08] yes, everyone else adds it with mucht edits Romaine [21:32:12] I do only in one [21:32:18] don´t know why [21:34:08] * aude lurks [21:34:29] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Introduced Term interface and maintenance script to rebuild the term search keys" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31078 [21:34:42] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User:Tpt/slurpInterwiki.js&diff=265967&oldid=262507 <- It seems to be this change [21:34:57] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30984 [21:34:59] everyone else is using the cached version, I guess [21:35:10] Wiki13: ah [21:35:19] I don´t [21:35:24] * PiRSquared17 keeps the old one so he can increase his editcount [21:35:38] * Lydia_WMDE blinks @ PiRSquared17 :D [21:35:38] JeroenDeDauw: Fancy dealing with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/31065/ ? [21:35:55] Change abandoned: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31078 [21:36:00] you will lose your session sooner or later PirSquared [21:36:15] PiRSquared17* [21:36:28] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Revert "Improved case insensitive lookup of terms"" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31130 [21:36:32] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31130 [21:37:01] You can only do that if you copy the old version into a .js page in your userspace [21:37:15] :P [21:37:15] Wiki13: So... I'll just do that :P [21:37:20] lol [21:37:21] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "* Improved case insensitive lookup of terms * Introduced Term interface * Added maintenance script to rebuild the term search keys" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31131 [21:37:25] * Lydia_WMDE checks emails and then gets some noms and watches tv [21:37:28] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "* Improved case insensitive lookup of terms * Introduced Term interface * Added maintenance script to rebuild the term search keys" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31131 [21:37:42] mw.loader.load("//www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User:Tpt/slurpInterwiki.js&oldid=262507"); :P [21:37:53] lol [21:37:54] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Reviewed and verified by John" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31131 [21:37:55] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31131 [21:38:02] + the &action=raw&ctype=text/javascript of course [21:38:16] :P [21:38:21] gonna try that [21:38:22] XD [21:38:32] New review: John Erling Blad; "Whaaaat!! :D" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31131 [21:41:34] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.1.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31081 [21:42:20] lol it does work PiRSquared17 [21:42:21] xD [21:42:37] hooray! [21:44:06] * jeblad_WMDE thinks there is much bumpy roads ahead [21:45:03] Merlissimo: why doesn't http://wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetsitelinks&ids=42&format=jsonfm work? [21:45:20] wbgetentities doesn't work either [21:45:30] Outdated and deprecated [21:45:35] wbgetitems [21:45:46] http://wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetitems&ids=42&format=jsonfm [21:46:00] wbgetitems is working now, will be deprecated when wbgetentities takes over [21:46:02] should that be on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikibase/API#wbgetentities then? [21:47:13] wbgetitems works now, in a few days it dies [21:47:45] I would be supprised if wbgetitems is still around next monday [21:48:34] New review: John Erling Blad; "There was 1 error:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31124 [21:49:14] jeblad_WMDE: i am ready ;-) [21:50:26] jeblad_WMDE: so why don't we just skip to "wbgetentities"? [21:53:02] Because a roll out is a rather big thing involving many people? [21:55:46] New review: John Erling Blad; "Spurious error it seems." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31124 [21:55:47] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31124 [21:58:27] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (0.2.x) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31126 [22:18:47] no flooding now [22:20:29] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31127 [22:20:35] question : in order to complete labels and description in different languages, is it possible to have a list of terms without the "language" label ? [22:21:48] or is there a bot to complete them ? [22:23:12] hsarrazin: no that doesn't exist yet - we'll need to work on that [22:23:25] :) [22:24:00] categories ? bot ? automatic completion from interwiki links ? [22:25:17] categories will come [22:25:20] There is a bug on a special page to list labels and descriptions for translation [22:25:23] bits of all kinds will come [22:25:36] *bots [22:25:45] Lydia_WMDE: is it made a decission on categories for items? [22:26:02] jeblad_WMDE: they'll have to come in some form [22:26:18] or else people wil hack them in in some crazy way [22:26:21] *will [22:26:35] that was the last i heard on that topic [22:26:49] Categories that can be reused on Wikipedia, that would be awsome.. [22:27:04] But its not simple to coalesce categories [22:27:42] eh yeah that is an entirely different topic [22:27:51] Merlissimo: ops http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4380 [22:28:52] Merlissimo: so you're running your bot already? [22:29:01] that doesn't really count as trying a bit :/ [22:29:20] tbh that's not nice [22:30:00] JeroenDeDauw: Want to look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/31065/ ? [22:30:18] * jeblad_WMDE thinks people act like kids oat christmas.. :D [22:31:11] Merlissimo: is it really impossible to wait until the end of the week? :/ [22:32:54] I thought I had explained it well enough why I asked to wait still [22:46:16] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Implemented monolingaul dv in JS and added tests" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31143 [22:51:55] wikidater, wikidatist, wikidatian? [22:54:25] emijrp: definitely not the first and last :D [22:54:28] actually [22:54:34] also not the middle one [22:54:35] ;-) [22:55:02] they all sounds kinda horrible [22:55:19] but so far i haven't heard anything fitting and non-horrible [22:55:25] suggestions welcome [22:56:00] ohhhh look - we have the QueenOfFrance here today [22:56:05] everyone act classy! [22:56:12] :D [22:56:12] I would have suggested "wikidatian".... but :s [22:57:08] Lydia_WMDE: lol [22:57:50] wikidata user [23:01:14] ehhh that's for wikipedists.... we're wikidata makers or compilers [23:01:49] collectors? [23:01:49] curators? [23:03:22] ok... good night everybody.... [23:03:40] it's late here... I go to sleep... [23:04:03] wikidata hoarders [23:04:08] good night hsarrazin_dodo [23:04:23] emijrp: lol - not sure that's the image we want to portrait ;-) [23:05:56] HAHAHA YES. [23:07:17] ¯\(°_o)/¯ give us your data [23:07:26] haha [23:07:27] right [23:14:45] New patchset: Reedy; "(Bug 41594) Create option to disable wb_changes table" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (wikidata-wmfphase1beta) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31148 [23:16:20] New patchset: Reedy; "Point .gitreview at the correct branch" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (wikidata-wmfphase1beta) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31149 [23:16:51] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (wikidata-wmfphase1beta) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31148 [23:16:53] instead of deleting items, can't they be used for other item? just rename the label [23:16:55] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (wikidata-wmfphase1beta) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31149 [23:19:27] emijrp: possible, yes [23:19:48] anyone who has the slurp script installed care to fill the rest of the interwiki links for http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4524 ? [23:20:00] ^ wikidata's maskot [23:20:00] heh [23:20:06] or at least one of two ;-) [23:20:22] Lydia_WMDE: Including pictures from commons would be awesome [23:20:29] including/displaying [23:20:34] jep [23:20:38] already on the todo list? [23:21:06] not for the near future [23:21:16] booooooo [23:21:21] beyond that: possible but i can't make promisses [23:21:30] heh [23:21:30] well [23:21:35] there's a lot more to do still [23:21:44] more important stuff you know :D [23:21:44] it shouldn't be that hard... (famous last words) [23:21:45] lol [23:21:46] right [23:21:52] but yeah [23:21:58] not exactly high priority [23:22:31] :) [23:23:47] the new megaupload will be out in 30 minutes [23:24:55] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1459 btw is the other mascot [23:25:04] emijrp: ?