[00:01:45] Sannita: in three month we'll have perm admin votes and for current temp admins [00:01:58] Merlissimo: great [00:02:34] anyway I was still convinced there was consensus on my former proposal [00:02:35] i think having an admin policy until then should be possible. [00:02:45] * Sannita had lots of work in the last days... [00:03:51] Sannita: is there a way of listing all the pages starting from Q[number] ? [00:04:22] PiRSquared: dunno [00:04:36] for example see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Labels_and_Descriptions_Task_Force#Q17001_.E2.80.93_Q18000 [00:04:57] yeah, I thought you were thinking of that [00:05:04] but really, I don't know [00:06:15] :S [00:07:08] it'd be really useful though [00:07:29] but I don't have enough courage to ask it to the devs :P [00:08:24] Sannita: is there a special page for all pages without description/label in language [xy]? [00:08:46] PiRSquared: there should be, I think Tpt was involved in that [00:09:05] if it's not ready yet, it will be in a few days™ [00:09:42] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WithoutInterwiki is useless too :S [00:09:50] as in, doesn't list pages without sitelinks [00:10:27] PiRSquared: Use https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ShortPages [00:10:53] It kinda works for that [00:57:08] ho ho ho [01:01:50] PiRSquared/Sannita it will be possible to list all pages with SpecialAllpages if we can get it to use numbers instead of strings [01:03:45] jeblad_WMDE: if anyone of you comes to Rome, please remember that you have a couple of pints of beer offered by me [01:03:53] It is also possible to make a special page that enumerates pages because our number series are almost complete [01:04:11] that also would be great [01:04:28] (my previous statement was intended to be a bribe) :P [01:04:30] Not sure if it really makes sense.. [01:04:43] Beer always makes sense [01:04:46] :O [01:06:13] We could have a page link that goes to the next item satisfying some constraint [01:06:20] That would be cool [01:06:53] "Next without label or description in Italian" [01:07:45] definitely [01:08:03] That can infact be made as a gadget [01:08:23] still problems with FF :( [01:08:30] I'm fed up of Chrome [01:09:40] Which kind of problems? [01:11:01] it's a week that I can't login with firefox [01:11:08] only on wikidata [01:11:17] but with chrome, I can easily login [01:11:57] tried to delete session storage in ff twice? [01:12:30] uhm [01:12:34] i [01:12:39] I'll try [01:13:41] Or is the cache.. needs to be deleted twice to empty the local storage [01:15:33] We really need better anti vandalism tools [01:15:41] jeblad_WMDE: why? [01:16:02] there's no vandalism [01:16:25] Because we are extremely vulnerable now [01:17:09] There are no vandalism because most of what can be done is vandalism-proof [01:17:46] Only labels, aliases and descriptions can be vandalized [01:18:21] but with new scripts that hides the edits it will be much harder to find vandalism [01:18:27] +1 [01:19:19] I can view pages in Norwegian, but then I don't see whats going on in Swedish [01:20:10] jeblad_WMDE: be more specific [01:20:17] bokmål or nynorsk :P [01:20:23] lol [01:20:43] There is three users from Norway, and it is 30 000 articles [01:21:04] That would imply 10 000 articles to check [01:21:36] Italians are a bit more, but still... [01:21:50] yeah, we need to set up good anti-vandalism measures [01:22:46] Dov'è la vittoria?... [01:22:48] In Norwegian bokmål wikipedia mean lifetime for vandalism was approx 2:50 min some time ago [01:23:06] jeblad_WMDE: is there a difference between "no" and "nb" codes? [01:23:24] nb redirects to no [01:23:31] okay [01:23:40] no is a metacode for norwegian [01:24:10] no.wikipedia.org was both nb (bokmål) and nn (nynorsk) [01:24:37] but due to internal fighting the nn community left [01:25:28] jeblad_WMDE: btw, how do I create Properties? [01:26:00] so there is a wiki for both language forms, which basically just use bokmål (nb) and another project using nynorsk (nn) [01:26:26] Jasper_Deng: you can't on Wikidata.org [01:26:34] jeblad_WMDE: interesting [01:26:38] how similar are they? [01:26:47] Its still only on wikidata-test-repo... [01:26:51] as close as sco.wikipedia and en.wikipedia? [01:26:57] jeblad_WMDE: when will this be allowed? [01:27:39] nynorsk is slightly more like swedish, bokmål is slightly more like danish [01:28:04] Jasper_Deng: Not sure if it will be included in the next rollout, but I doubt it [01:28:52] Properties is used in the statements, and without the statements it will not be useful to include them [01:29:12] It is still a lot missing in the statements and further down into the claims [01:29:26] If anyone objects, feel free to revert; http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata%3ARequests_for_deletions%2FHeader&diff=431280&oldid=391723 [01:30:58] Nice! [01:31:02] I like it! [01:31:28] +1 [01:31:42] Hm, this channel used to be so quiet... Ah, memories! :O [01:31:48] Hahah. [01:32:27] ^^ [01:32:30] Note: I'm currently implementing what I've proposed @ http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Proposed_changes_to_interface_pages [01:33:18] It might not be possible in every language [01:33:30] But you figure it out! :) [01:35:52] Little early to mention but, Jasper_Deng; edit filters. I see you made one (currently disabled). Anything happening with them? [01:35:57] If anyone finds things unclear or difficult to understand on the glossary page feel free to nag me [01:36:06] Riley|Away: I didn't make it [01:36:16] I was only correcting the previous admin's grammar [01:36:16] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Glossary [01:36:32] Correction, modified* [01:37:01] * jeblad_WMDE finds the data model very confusing [01:40:38] * Sannita finds it's 2:36 AM and goes to sleep [01:41:26] G'night. [01:42:25] n8 all [01:46:11] Thanks for all your hard work. [02:04:50] Riley: I don't know /how/ anyone is supporting a candidate who lost rollback due to abuse of it. http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Idh0854 [02:05:44] I saw that. [02:05:48] voted [02:26:33] jeblad_WMDE: Maybe i have done sth. wrong. But i do not see the wood for the trees. do you know why this query aborts and not all items are returned? http://www.wikidata.org/w/api [02:26:33] .php?action=wbgetitems&props=sitelinks/urls|info&sites=hiwiki|zhwiki|euwiki|frwiki|ruwiki|eswiki|enwiki|cawiki|itwiki|dewiki|fawiki|urwiki|arwiki|svwiki|nlwiki|ptwiki|enwiki|fiwiki|dewiki&titles=%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%9F%28%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BE%29|%E8%89%BE%E7%88%BE%E6%9B%BC%E7%89%B9%7CHermontis|Hermonthis|%D0%93%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%81%7CArman [02:26:33] t|Hermonthis|Armant|Ermonti|Armant|%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%85%D9%86%D8%AA%7C%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%85%D9%86%D8%AA%7C%D8%A3%D8%B1%D9%85%D9%86%D8%AA%7CHermonthis|Armant|C%C3%A3o+Pastor+de+Armant|Armant+%28dog%29|Egyptinpaimenkoira|Armant+%28Hunderasse%29 [02:26:43] ... [02:28:56] it fails at enwiki:Armant (dog) [02:29:08] Okay, everyone I should bring this up now. I and another user AlexJFox have setup #wikimedia-wikidata-admins. The channel isn't official yet. The channel will have a bot running 24/7 (currently isn't) feeding messages into the channel if certain pages are edited. Before the channel is setup fully, we were wondering if the name should be changed to something else or stay the same. We were also wond [02:29:09] ering if it should be a channel open to everyone or just admins like the title suggests. [02:29:09] and an item for this exists [02:31:25] only requesting the part that is missing in the first reposnse works: http://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetitems&props=sitelinks/urls|info&sites=enwiki|fiwiki|dewiki&titles=Armant+%28dog%29|Egyptinpaimenkoira|Armant+%28Hunderasse%29 [02:32:31] Merlissimo, Guerillero: what do you think of #wikimedia-wikidata-admins? (see Riley's comment above) [02:33:04] hmm [02:33:19] i only know -admin channels that have an access list containing admins only [02:33:41] open channel are mostly called -rc [02:34:23] right now invite-only still needs to be setup [02:34:30] we need consensus to make it official [02:35:00] but because admin are not sharing a language there will be less talk between admin as on language projects [02:36:37] true [02:36:51] but I think the abbreviation "admin" is used in most major European languages [02:41:09] Also control would be handed over to b'crats and Barras + PeterSymonds/ [02:41:42] Mainly Barras + PeterSymonds [02:41:49] who manage Wikimedia channels, including this one [02:42:03] Riley: you would also have to be excluded if it were truely an admin channel, sry :( [02:42:08] just give +F to wmfgc then? [02:42:38] Jasper_Deng: I know, banned from my own creation [02:42:41] :( [02:42:57] Riley: nah, adminship shouldn't be far away [02:43:12] sry g2g [02:43:16] bye Jasper_Deng_away [02:43:26] darn, too late [02:43:27] G'night. [02:43:30] O [02:47:43] jeblad_WMDE: Around? [02:58:48] Abeo. [03:43:42] riley, yes but I should be in bed [03:44:00] Okay, g'night. [03:44:48] jeblad_WMDE: god natt [03:44:50] Gustav Klimt (Q34661)‎ [03:45:04] hm? [03:45:07] gah, wrong one [03:45:39] !link [[d:Q34661]] [03:45:39] 10[35] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Discusi%C3%B3n:Q34661 [03:45:39] http://enwp.org/d:Q34661 [03:45:44] Laoag City (Q39738)‎‎ [03:45:51] !part [03:46:22] nearly 40000 items [03:46:24] Uh.. why is AsimovBot linking in spanish? [03:46:37] 10k in one day [03:47:01] Wow.. Thanks for all your help today. [03:47:08] !link Q39738 [03:47:13] !link [[Q39738]] [03:47:13] 10[36] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q39738 [03:47:23] Okay, that makes sense. [03:47:32] !link [[en:Q39738]] [03:47:32] 10[37] 10https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q39738 [03:50:32] We will need years to fill the base this way [03:51:27] What do you suggest? [03:53:07] A bot that skips link normalization and updates directly [03:53:20] Ah. [03:54:01] Okay. [03:56:34] The bottleneck is the normalization, but a maintenance script can skip that [03:57:46] Go to bed ;) [04:02:44] Anyone in here who likes dealing with scripts? [04:03:24] Riley: like what? [04:03:48] one sec [04:06:02] Er I don't know which script it is.. [04:06:50] It colors my links. [04:07:06] Riley: which links? [04:07:24] It is somewhere in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Riley_Huntley/vector.js and would need modifying. [04:07:29] sitelinks, http:// links, [[foo]] links [04:07:29] 10[38] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/foo [04:07:30] ? [04:07:46] PiRQuadratus: Certain cite links. [04:08:08] Riley: site or cite? [04:08:18] If the user is an admin, it will be a certain color. If the page is marked for deletion, it will be a certain color. Site* [04:08:23] Ah [04:09:02] importScript('User:NuclearWarfare/Mark-blocked script.js'); <- is it this one? [04:09:31] importScript('User:Splarka/sysopdectector.js'); <- this is the other possibility [04:09:41] Neither. [04:10:09] one sec, will screen shot [04:10:34] Riley: do you have a "mark admins" pref on? [04:11:03] It is something in my js, I know that for sure. [04:11:51] http://images.wikia.com/rileyhuntley/images/f/fd/Link.png [04:14:46] Riley: found it [04:14:52] but it doesn't seem to work on wikidata [04:14:59] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Ais523/adminrights.js [04:15:05] 100% sure [04:15:10] passed 40000 [04:15:22] jeblad_WMDE: skål! [04:15:36] Kim Chaek University of Technology [04:15:37] nEAT [04:17:41] I wish the script would work.. [04:18:13] Riley: needs a minor fix [04:18:24] Able to make it? [04:18:45] maybe [04:18:56] Thank you so much. [04:19:01] Riley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Amalthea_%28bot%29/userhighlighter.js/sysop.js is a list of admins, no? [04:19:08] just update that to fit wikidata :P [04:19:28] sorry, I didn't write the script, but it depends on that list [04:19:28] Yes it is [04:20:08] S/he has a bot update it. [04:20:09] Riley: I'll paste it in my userspace [04:20:14] ty [04:21:03] why can we only enter the description label in only one language? [04:21:04] well, there are a ton of sysops [04:21:17] Amqui: you can change your language [04:21:25] PiRQuadratus that's not my question [04:21:46] it's pretty unproductive to change the language of the whole interface everytime I want to enter a description in an other language [04:22:16] Riley: I'll let you do the hard work [04:22:30] [[User:Riley_Huntley/sysoplist.js]] <- paste a list in the format of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Amalthea_%28bot%29/userhighlighter.js/sysop.js here [04:22:30] 10[39] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Riley_Huntley/sysoplist%2Ejs [04:22:35] but for wikidata admins [04:22:51] sorry, need to go -- bye [04:22:52] Why is the bot autolinking? [04:24:24] Bye [04:24:34] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Possibility_to_add_description_in_more_than_one_language [04:25:47] PiRQuadratus: btw your highlighter doesn't work [04:26:05] Jasper_Deng: that's because Riley didn't import the list of admins :P [04:26:09] yet [04:26:20] blame Riley not me [04:51:55] Hm [04:51:56] Jasper_Deng: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_filter/False_positives/Reports#213.246.88.102 [04:51:56] No comment since the 30th [04:53:24] Thank you. [05:31:59] Should descriptions end with a period? [05:52:36] no [05:52:52] they are not 'full' sentences [05:53:04] K. [05:53:39] Just found the discussion on [[Wikidata:Project chat]] about it. [05:53:39] 10[40] 10https://wikidata.wikidata.org/wiki/Project_chat [05:53:53] I don't want to be autolinked you bot.. [08:50:43] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Moving site selector widget to wikibase namespace" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33158 [09:56:40] i created a double page ... can this be deleted or renamed to another page somehow? [09:57:51] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42345 is the page that is double ... it didn't show up in the search results, but added the en-link gave me "the other page" [10:04:21] edoderoo: there is a page for deletion requests [10:04:36] (sorry don't have a link atm - at an event) [10:04:50] I'll try to find it then...t hanks [10:04:54] New patchset: Henning Snater; "QUnit test for site selector widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33162 [10:06:25] Abraham_WMDE: will send an email in a minute [10:06:52] DanielK_WMDE: ok [10:09:53] ah, another user already re-used my entry, that will fix it too [10:17:39] Abraham_WMDE: sent. sorry, took a bit to check out our current status [10:17:50] DanielK_WMDE: np [10:18:58] Special:ItemDisambiguation does not search at aliases, does it? [10:23:35] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Overwriting autocomplete's search delay in site selector widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33164 [11:31:04] Lol wut -> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q22664 [11:31:28] Thats a bit too much aliases [11:32:37] what the hyper [11:54:23] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Moving label/value definition from SiteIdInterface to site selector" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33167 [12:10:39] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32502 [12:40:16] bye [12:41:06] I don't see a problem with having 10 or so aliases. 100 would probably be too much, but if the aliasses really *are* aliasses, why not have many? [12:41:51] +1 [12:46:53] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Some cleanup in ExternalChangesList" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33171 [12:53:37] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added ClaimsSerializer and did a lot of cleanup, mainly reverting most of 5c29e13798dd31cd233ffbd2d28ca6854177bb8b" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32736 [13:11:13] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Put API test in medium group" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33174 [13:13:42] Danwe: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/32736/ [13:35:22] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Removed unused use statements" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33175 [13:41:24] New patchset: Aude; "add EntityChange base class to handle common stuff for all change types" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33033 [13:41:44] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added value validator factory" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33176 [13:45:14] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33171 [13:48:40] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33174 [13:50:22] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Improved docs" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33178 [13:51:05] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Removed static method from interface as this is not allowed in strict mode" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33179 [13:52:38] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "updated rel notes" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33180 [13:52:56] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "updated rel notes and bumped version to 0.3 alpha" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33180 [13:54:10] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added value formatter factory" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33181 [14:01:37] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32660 [14:05:06] New patchset: Aude; "add EntityChange base class to handle common stuff for all change types" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33033 [14:05:06] New patchset: Aude; "cleaning up some code in wikibase client hooks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33086 [14:14:03] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Created $.valueview and sub-system for creating DataValue edit view widgets" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33183 [14:15:24] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Provide arguments for constructor test" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33184 [14:15:39] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33180 [14:18:11] JeroenDeDauw: I merged your Ext-Diff job in Jenkins [14:18:22] JeroenDeDauw: add to configure jenkins to set verified0 though since tests fails :( [14:18:49] hashar: I know [14:18:52] hashar: thanks [14:19:02] hashar: I will submit a revert of the later once the tests are fixed [14:19:08] Think they are now, waiting for jenkins [14:19:14] nice [14:19:44] Was not seeing that failure locally (and still am not), odd [14:20:30] Guess because I turned the strict option of the test stuff off... else I get timeouts when I use my debugger to set breakpoints :/ [14:20:41] New patchset: Aude; "cleaning up some code in wikibase client hooks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33086 [14:21:27] JeroenDeDauw: had to trigger the job manually :( [14:23:46] New patchset: Aude; "add EntityChange base class to handle common stuff for all change types" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33033 [14:23:49] JeroenDeDauw: there are still a few failures :-D https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Ext-Diff/4/consoleFull [14:23:57] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Provide arguments for constructor test" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33184 [14:24:19] grmblblb [14:25:19] triggering manually again [14:25:20] :( [14:28:50] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Improved docs" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33178 [14:29:01] New patchset: Aude; "add EntityChange base class to handle common stuff for all change types" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33033 [14:29:35] hashar: why the manual trigger? Is the config I submitted broken? [14:29:43] sounds like [14:29:44] :( [14:30:10] Someone please to review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/33184/ [14:30:13] johl_: ^ [14:30:28] JeroenDeDauw: on it! [14:30:36] ah it is fixed. https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Ext-Diff/6/ has been triggered automatically by gerrit 33178 [14:30:48] JeroenDeDauw: by the way, I should probably have introduced myself in Amsterdam :-D [14:34:07] hashar: ah, but that old IRL protocol is so awkward :D [14:35:26] hashar: please to merge the revert [14:35:32] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/33185/ [14:35:59] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/33178/ still failling apparently [14:36:02] might need to rebase it [14:36:24] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33184 [14:36:36] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Removed static method from interface as this is not allowed in strict mode" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33179 [14:36:38] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Improved docs" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33178 [14:37:12] heh wtf [14:37:21] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "add wikivoyage to site group map" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33060 [14:37:31] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33060 [14:37:56] yay [14:39:16] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33178 [14:42:18] New review: Jens Ohlig; "Oh thank you SOOOOOO much. That does the trick!" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32580 [14:42:18] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32580 [14:44:34] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33179 [14:47:37] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Has no tests" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33183 [14:52:11] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32830 [14:56:45] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31836 [14:59:57] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31206 [15:00:45] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33046 [15:01:39] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "change rebuildrc option to rebuild and also clear entity cache and items per site" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33070 [15:01:45] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33070 [15:02:56] New patchset: Aude; "add EntityChange base class to handle common stuff for all change types" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33033 [15:07:25] Change abandoned: Aude; "not needed" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32929 [15:07:41] Change abandoned: Aude; "not needed" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32557 [15:09:21] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Improved setup and entry point code" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33190 [15:09:52] New patchset: Aude; "cleaning up some code in wikibase client hooks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33086 [15:11:20] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Include test commented out for unknown reason" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33191 [15:12:23] hashar: dafuiq: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Ext-Diff/10/console [15:12:40] It says it failed but does not include the failure? [15:12:49] And it passes for me, even w/ strict mode [15:13:17] hmm [15:13:23] JeroenDeDauw: the console is bugged apparently [15:13:26] text: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Ext-Diff/10/consoleText [15:13:32] there is a stack trace there [15:13:46] [exec] Database returned error "10: disk I/O error" [15:13:47] nice [15:13:57] I think the gallium box is dead [15:14:04] or about to die [15:14:24] retriggering 33191 [15:16:46] https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Ext-Diff/11/ : SUCCESS [15:16:46] https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Ext-Diff/11/ : FAILURE [15:16:49] wat? [15:16:53] does not compute [15:17:32] Sometimes I wonder how you genius's stay sane. [15:17:41] Like, have you ever ragequited? [15:18:15] JeroenDeDauw: build #11 is a success https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Ext-Diff/11/ [15:18:26] JeroenDeDauw: though it probably got confused :/ [15:18:29] I restarted Jenkins [15:18:48] retriggering [15:18:54] https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Ext-Diff/12/console [15:20:49] What is jeblad_WMDE's username, hashar? [15:20:54] no idea [15:21:00] Drat. [15:21:01] should be his labs account name [15:21:14] I think he is John Erling Blad (WMDE) [15:21:29] let me look it up [15:21:33] Thank you! [15:21:45] should be "John Erling Blad" [15:21:50] Thanks [15:22:17] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33056 [15:24:41] Ello, Wiki13. [15:24:50] hi [15:25:33] How's you? [15:31:26] I´m good, Riley [15:31:37] Only got some headache atm :/ [15:31:55] :/ [15:36:27] Neh, out to get some fresh air.. [15:36:59] (that reads being poisoned by exhaust and fallout from the nuclear plants) [15:38:38] Hehe [15:44:34] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33108 [15:45:27] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33175 [15:47:12] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33033 [15:50:42] Riley: do you think people want a live clock in right upper corner? (after the logout link) [15:50:49] I want one. [15:50:52] I miss mine. [15:50:57] I miss all my scripts. [15:51:13] I mean, should I add to the gadgets? [15:51:17] it* [15:51:23] Please do. [15:51:35] sure [15:57:38] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Added ClaimsSerializer and did a lot of cleanup, mainly reverting most of 5c29e13798dd31cd233ffbd2d28ca6854177bb8b" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32736 [15:59:08] Riley: check your preferences [15:59:12] it should be there [15:59:19] Thanks [15:59:32] I need to change the wording please let me know [15:59:46] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32736 [15:59:57] out will be back later tonight [16:01:08] Its good enough [16:03:15] ok [16:05:03] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33057 [16:07:51] Wiki13: local time could be better than the UTC time. [16:08:17] would you like that more? [16:08:32] I can remove ig you want and add local time [16:08:37] if* [16:09:33] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41579 seems to be resolved locally as well as on wikidata.org [16:09:44] Riley: what do you think? local time or UTC? [16:09:45] move to DONE? [16:09:52] UTC [16:10:01] or Feedback? [16:10:09] I prefer UTC too [16:10:11] could an admin please change http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-autoEdit.js here "Autmatisches hinzufügen" to "Automatisches hinzufügen"? [16:10:29] lukas23: sure [16:10:34] thx [16:11:54] lukas23: done [16:12:09] ok :) [16:12:13] Wiki13: Could you watch https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/LadyInGrey as a precaution? [16:12:31] Creating a lot of blanks, might just be the users editing style though. Create blanks then fill. [16:12:41] hopefully [16:13:05] Ah, seems thats what they did before https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/LadyInGrey&dir=prev&target=LadyInGrey [16:13:07] nvm. [16:13:10] wiki13: oops, still wrong, "Automatisches hinzufügen" should be "Automatisches Hinzufügen" (capital letter h) :S [16:13:29] ah [16:13:35] no prob riley [16:14:27] lukas23: done [16:14:29] again :P [16:14:34] thx again ;) [16:20:47] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added compat for 0.1 and 0.2 serialization" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33094 [16:21:08] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33076 [16:21:22] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Approved by danwe. PS2 is just a rebase" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33094 [16:21:23] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33094 [16:32:22] New review: Daniel Werner; "I really don't like this change, not at all. But I guess its the fastest fix." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33087 [16:32:23] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33087 [16:39:34] AnjaJ_WMDE: i think that reedy or someone turned back on the lucene search for wikidata [16:39:38] that probably fixed [16:39:56] imperfect as the lucene search is at the moment..... [16:42:21] added a comment, thanks Aude [16:45:05] AnjaJ_WMDE: ok [17:02:20] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33158 [17:05:45] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33162 [17:08:27] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33164 [17:12:49] there is many "also known as": http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q38918?setlang=id [17:16:24] Stryn: sth for mathematics [17:17:36] mmmh according to my log these were two different submits [17:18:43] i'll check it [17:19:44] I found it, because it's longest page :P [17:23:30] i think the error is realted to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42060 [17:24:10] because of the invalid response sth was mixed [17:32:51] New patchset: Aude; "fix change type for EntityUpdate to include prefix" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33197 [17:44:55] New patchset: Aude; "fix change type for EntityUpdate to include prefix" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33197 [17:59:39] Stryn: that is definitly a big mistake at wikibase software. [18:00:05] ok [18:00:07] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33197 [18:01:20] i should rewrite some code to be more faul tolerance [18:08:57] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Adding editEntity to wikibase.Api" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33203 [18:14:02] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updated release notes" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33204 [18:16:42] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33204 [18:17:02] I believe there is a bug on test repo: http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/w/index.php?title=Special:EntitiesWithoutLabel/en&limit=500&offset=0 [18:17:05] Where can it come from ? [18:18:51] Tpt_: do you mean the normal and small Q´s there? [18:19:08] Or is it something else [18:19:12] Wiki13: The normal Q [18:19:29] It's links to pages that don't exist [18:19:44] I see [18:22:52] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Adding editEntity to wikibase.Api" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33203 [19:37:44] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Output empty associative arrays as objects when needed" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33213 [19:38:13] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Output empty associative arrays as objects when needed [DO NOT SUBMIT]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33213 [19:52:23] aude: Yup, I did last night [19:52:29] It works, if looking a bit nasty with the JSON ;) [19:59:09] I think it is necessary to parse the json to figure out if the search hit is real or not [19:59:47] And also we should be able to say something like label:Berlin [20:58:18] ____(,, ,,>o [21:00:04] jeblad_WMDE: why don't you translate [[Wikidata:Forside]] so we can lose a red link from the Main Page? [21:00:05] 10[41] 10https://wikidata.wikidata.org/wiki/Forside [21:00:35] Because I try to do less on Wikidata... [21:00:51] I also work 8 hours a day on wd.. [21:00:52] ;) [21:01:09] There are two other norwegians in the community [21:26:42] Hola [22:01:43] ..and then I managed to spill oil on my only clean and dry trouser.. [22:01:49] :( [22:02:52] :/ [22:03:04] * jeblad_WMDE will go to the office without trousers tomorrow [22:03:08] :D [22:04:14] O.o [22:04:16] * Riley runs [22:04:18] jk [22:05:58] DanielK_WMDE: Did you check if the lucene schema stuff needs to be updated for any of your changes? [22:06:01] (OAI) [22:06:56] Sven in channel? [22:09:07] All requests for bot's that create item have been paused :/ [22:09:12] items* [22:09:31] Pause proceedings please Denny Vrandecic is saying that they don't want bots creating items yet, because we're still looking for errors. - Sven Manguard [22:09:48] Anyone know what type of errors? [22:14:12] Nope, but I'm on vacation [22:24:23] damn [22:25:20] ? [22:26:02] the search didn't show me anything so i created 2 duplicates in a row [22:26:47] Ouch. [22:26:58] lukas23: Do you use http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ItemByTitle ? [22:27:06] yes [22:27:24] Hm. [22:30:29] i repurposed the sites and now the search works again [22:32:08] lukas23: What is your username? [22:32:08] hm [22:32:13] Lukas²³ [22:34:13] I can't get that deletion script to work hm [22:39:06] Make that 37 admins. [22:46:17] Reedy: lucene schema? i don't even know what that is :) [22:46:34] Reedy: i'm just faking wikitext though. shouldn't cause problems. [22:47:01] for something smarter, like searching in individual fields, will need more coding. [22:47:06] DanielK_WMDE: I was more meaning if you'd added new properties or whatever... [22:47:59] extensions/OAI/lsearch-0.1.xsd [22:48:07] no I didn't. OAI doesn't even generate output on that level. [22:48:17] would be nice if it would. but i didn't touch that stuff. [22:48:33] currently, lucene just interprets whatever it gets from oai as wiki text [22:49:20] I noticed the published schema wasn't available on mw.org either [22:49:20] :D [23:15:08] * Lydia_WMDE waves [23:15:12] Sk1d: in german most Towns will be Gemeinden [23:15:12] o/ [23:21:55] Lydia_WMDE: that's hello or bye wave? [23:22:09] Danny_B|backup: hello ;-) [23:22:19] just got back from a wikidata intro round in vienna [23:22:25] sitting in my hotel room [23:22:30] checking emails and stuff [23:26:27] Lydia_WMDE: Why is the wikidata in read-only mode... [23:26:32] Anyone know? [23:26:35] Me [23:26:43] Go on :) [23:26:44] I'm deleting 20GB of crap from that database cluster [23:27:00] db39 isn't happy about the fact [23:27:03] Ah. [23:27:06] heh [23:27:16] 37.1 million rows deleted so far.. [23:27:29] You would've thought replicating deletes would be easyt [23:27:37] Though, this table doesn't actually have a primary key... [23:28:12] Hey, are we down? [23:28:23] No, the pages are loading, aren't they? ;) [23:28:46] "Warning: The database has been locked for maintenance, so you will not be able to save your edits right now. You may wish to cut-n-paste the text into a text file and save it for later. [23:28:47] The administrator who locked it offered this explanation: The database has been automatically locked while the slave database servers catch up to the master" [23:29:08] Reedy: What did you do to the poor server kitties? [23:29:14] I'm removing their poop [23:29:20] .... [23:29:24] .... [23:29:29] ...... [23:29:33] ..... [23:29:49] ....... [23:30:19] /me resists the urge to continue the chain [23:30:41] Heh [23:31:28] Merlissimo: hm ich bin mir unsicher ob es im englischen die selbe unterscheidung gibt dann könnte man das lösen. Ansonsten sollte es halt wirklich nur für Stätte angewendet werden. Und city genannt werden. [23:32:39] gemeinden ist die bezeichnung im sinne der verwaltung. die umgangsprachliche bezeichnung eher historisch wegen stadtrechte, die früher verliehen wurden [23:35:48] Sven_Manguard: Working your issue [23:35:50] I see the problem [23:35:58] TParis: sweet [23:36:54] Merlissimo: das betrifft dann aber nur den deutschen raum, ich denke das sollte ja auch nicht die entgültige lösung sein es geht ja nur darum die Beschreibung zu erleichtern und dort denke ich reicht auch eine grobe beschreibung um zu wissen um was es geht. [23:36:56] Reedy: " I'm deleting 20GB of crap " - did you mean "I'm deleting the wikileaks mirror" ? [23:37:05] Haha, nope [23:37:16] Melissimo: aber verstehe deine bedenken [23:38:28] Merlissimo: vllt könnte man aber auch so etwas wie Politiker einführen. [23:39:14] es war von mir ja auch nur eine kurze bemerkung. deswegen auch per irc und nicht onwiki. [23:41:06] wiki is working again [23:44:46] Yup [23:44:49] Replag is filtering down [23:49:32] good night i will now think about: Q951 [23:54:00] Feck [23:54:02] We're nearly at 50k [23:55:14] Sven_Manguard: Fixed [23:55:24] TParis: thanks! [23:55:27] lemme check [23:55:52] what do I do? [23:56:04] I still see two slots [23:56:43] put it in exactly like it says [23:56:47] www wikidata [23:57:03] got it [23:57:08] with it blank [23:57:40] Well the subdomain really doesnt matter [23:57:53] The problem is that the information in the wiki database doesn't contain a subdomain like every other project [23:57:58] So I had to hardcode it [23:58:32] Denny says we do have one [23:58:34] www [23:58:49] Not really [23:58:57] with or without www is the same [23:59:01] it just redirects [23:59:13] how can i know if wikibase is enabled on a wiki (if the extension is installed can be checked from module list) and on which namespaces? [23:59:41] Sven: The www isn't in the wiki database [23:59:51] I talked to DaB about fixing that and he suggested I email the mailing list [23:59:54] well, I'm lazy