[00:40:31] Restu20: maybe easier of we talk here? [00:40:46] Merlissimo: maybe :-D [00:41:11] which bot script are you refering to? [00:41:25] (i have multiple bot accounts) [00:41:54] MerlIwBot [00:41:57] (hi) [00:42:21] we were interested in the script for creating items, actually [00:43:03] MerlIwBot is a interwikibot running globally. while doing this it also create items. so it is not an import only script [00:43:35] uhm [00:43:53] I thought it was easier [00:44:01] i can also run only on toolserver [00:44:11] what do you need? [00:44:32] just a script that may help us in importing links from wp [00:44:45] and possibily creating labels and descriptions [00:45:51] is there any special category i should give priority for import [00:47:48] I'm atm taking care of Bostwana municipalities (long story) and Restu20 here is uploading links on F1 Grand Prix's (if I'm not mistaken) [00:48:17] You have seen the slurpinterwiki script etc? [00:48:48] last week i was working on http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:MerlIwBot/category_import , but that is not finished yet [00:49:04] yep, we use it, fact is that we're talking about hundreds of articles [00:49:17] we're taking ages, and we'd like to speed things up a bit [00:49:34] tbh, there is little point humans doing that sort of work [00:49:48] more bots should be allowed to run/run faster [00:50:03] and humans do cleanup, addition of descriptions, aliases etc [00:50:03] * Sannita nods [00:50:11] Sannita: have you a link to the category you need? [00:50:22] Merlissimo: one sec [00:51:02] http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Villaggi_del_Botswana <-- this is just one of the 4-5 categories I'm taking care of [00:51:07] 170532/4106738 = 4.15% [00:51:25] Currently, on the roughest estimates, we only have 4% of the pages in enwiki imported [00:52:28] well, lots of the Botswanan municipalities I've added have no en.wp link yet [00:52:37] exactly [00:52:52] so that 4% is probably 2 or 3% of all articles on wikipedias [00:52:57] 'coz there's no en.wp article [00:52:59] zzz.. [00:53:09] * Reedy cracks a whip at Jeblad_WMDE [00:53:10] Reedy: my interwikibot in not running on enwiki. so quality of enwiki langlinks is not so good (many missing langlinks and many dead langlink). that's why focus is on all other wikis. [00:53:15] Jeblad_WMDE: zzz to you too [00:53:57] Sannita: my bot currently import only pages having at least one langlinks (which results in item having two sitelinks) [00:53:58] not sure what you are discussing, but there is a lot of articles that isn't on enwiki [00:54:46] Jeblad_WMDE: enwiki is only no starting wiki for my bot, because my interwikibot is not allowed to run there [00:54:51] I think we should have all articles in wikipedia, even if there is only one article and no iw-links at present [00:55:00] Merlissimo: all the items I'm creating have at least links to it.wp, and more often to nl.wp and sv.wp too [00:56:31] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Sannita/Botswana [00:57:04] Jeblad_WMDE: many articles are missing of langlinks. i'll import Item with only one sitelink later. Other bots are importing them [00:57:19] * Jeblad_WMDE is not allowed to say that because the community should decide, but it is the only sane ting to do - so shoot me.. :D [00:57:46] * Sannita won't whoot [00:57:48] *shoot [00:58:32] * Jeblad_WMDE thinks Sannita is much to kind [00:58:53] ^^ [00:59:17] Jeblad_WMDE: we need moar bots [01:00:08] Reedy: or faster bots ;-) [01:00:14] or both [01:00:32] they'd be much faster if they were run inside the cluster... [01:01:08] | DB Name | DB Size in GB | [01:01:08] +--------------+----------------+ [01:01:08] | wikidatawiki | 2.880249023438 | [01:01:45] A special page that syncs iw-links to sitelinks? [01:01:53] lol [01:01:59] that'd end up having to be job queued [01:02:04] probably [01:02:08] hehe [01:02:13] Merlissimo: so, how can we solve the script problem? [01:02:31] (sorry, but here is 2 AM, and I need some sleep) :) [01:02:57] There is work on a widget for wikipedia [01:03:18] Sannita: my bot started working on this category, but my bot is working on about 10000 pages at the same time, so it will take some hours. [01:03:25] It is basically slurp w/additional help directly from wikipedia [01:03:45] Merlissimo: really? thanks! [01:04:24] Its been on the backlog for a long time [01:06:22] Merlissimo: anyway, this does not solve the problem, since I don't want to be a burden for bot owners [01:06:49] Reedy, if the bots where to be run on labs, that would speed them up, right? [01:06:56] won't my template help after i completed this script? [01:07:13] Fast internal network and so forth [01:07:34] Merlissimo: I'm sorry? [01:07:50] Jeblad_WMDE: my bot queries replication database to find pages missing on wikidata. so i cannot run on labs [01:08:15] Sannita: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:MerlIwBot/category_import [01:08:31] We could set up a database at labs [01:08:33] Merlissimo: ah, THAT script [01:08:47] sure, that will help [01:08:58] but I was referring at [02:03:18] Merlissimo Sannita: my bot started working on this category, but my bot is working on about 10000 pages at the same time, so it will take some hours. [01:10:21] I mean, in the future I'd like to be "independent" from you or other bot-owners, I don't like to be the one who always ask :) [01:10:41] bonne nuit [01:10:54] Sannita: you can ask me any time for importing some pages first. it's only one command for me [01:11:12] by default pages having most langlinks are imported first by my bot [01:11:29] cool [01:11:52] anyway, sometimes I noted that the interlinks are not working [01:12:02] and that's a constant for it.wp [01:14:42] Just wanted to say that you guys in the community is amazing! [01:15:18] We keep producing bugs and you just smiles and makes workarounds.. [01:15:22] :D [01:22:38] Jeblad_WMDE: I don't know who the above comment was directed at, but as a user in general, thank you so much for all the work that you and your colleagues have been doing. [01:24:29] It was sent in the general direction of all the people in the community, including a red haired fellow with a strange english accent [01:24:29] Jeblad_WMDE: creating impossible items (like my bot already did) is fun ;-) [01:25:08] We had three people working on that and could not reproduce the bug! [01:25:13] O_O [01:25:36] only my bot reproducted it ;-) [01:26:24] but not deterministic [01:26:44] So it did it more times? [01:26:49] strange.. [01:27:49] Riley, you have a nick that is to close to Reedy! o_O [01:28:13] {{facepalm}} [01:28:37] And Sven_Manguard has a name close to SvenDowideit! o_O [01:28:41] nick* [01:28:52] {{double facepalm}} [01:28:57] * Jasper_Deng_busy noticed that first, Riley! [01:28:57] 10[1] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:facepalm [01:28:57] 10[2] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:double_facepalm [01:29:11] AsimovBot: count [01:29:25] 04Error: Command “count” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written. [01:29:48] Jeblad_WMDE: only Smooth Collie and East-European Shepherd [01:29:55] Hehe. [01:30:14] Never know what those dogs do anyhow.. [01:30:22] AsimovBot: items [01:30:58] Riley: What do you think about https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Label [01:31:05] I went to town on expanding it [01:31:29] Sannita: http://wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/MerlIwBot <- is already creating these items [01:31:44] Q170703 [01:31:45] thanks Merlissimo :) [01:31:51] 04Error: Command “items” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written. [01:31:52] Jesus, it was at 13000 yesterday [01:31:55] AsimovBot: help [01:31:55] Asimov v. 2, por jem- (IRC) / -jem- (Wikimedia), 2010-12. Órdenes (preceder con -): ab acad actpend actualidad ad alias alusiones arroba art ascii aviso ayuda ayudando ayudante ayudanteop biblio bibliotecario bot bufer bug cab cac cafe calc cas cb cdb char creadores demoda dest dominio dpd drae exclam expand fetch flames gallery gblock google guion hiperignore hora ide ignore ip l links lista log logs13 => [01:31:57] ls luxo mant msg mw nuke op otrs otrsteam patea php ping pong proyecto random rank rb relevo reset revisar silencio sincat stats status sug sul tam ticket ticketid user v vec vot webchat wikinick wikirank wlm. 13Ayuda: -? orden; 10https://toolserver.org/~jem/asimov [01:32:46] AsimovBot: stats [01:33:13] El proyecto teórico wikidata se correspondería con https://www.wikidata.org, pero no existe todavía. [01:34:45] AsimovBot: just tell me how many bloody items Wikidata currently has [01:34:45] 04Error: Command “just” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written. [01:35:21] AsimovBot: dumb bot, dumb, dumb, dumb! [01:35:21] 04Error: Command “dumb” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written. [01:35:29] lol [01:35:51] couldn't resist [01:35:53] Sannita: your category causes also many wikipedia updates [01:36:33] Merlissimo: ? [01:36:46] http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciaal:Bijdragen/MerlIwBot [01:36:51] ah yes [01:38:35] well, a foundation gave us the data about the 2011 census in Botswana, and asked us to upload the data on it.wp, and on as many project as possible [01:39:10] (I'm currently talking with a Norwegian guy which can also help in several other projects [01:39:12] ) [01:40:03] so I thought that it may have been useful also to create a basis for the future phase 2 [01:40:14] since we still have all the data here [01:40:30] to upload [01:41:42] and that's why you also get so many updates on 'pedia, because they're pretty new [01:41:49] and nearly all interwiki groups have no tnwiki sitelink? [01:41:59] Its not unlikely you can play with data in test repo in a week [01:42:09] they will have it soon [01:42:23] sorry, they will have swahili soon [01:42:30] Jeblad_WMDE: really???????????? [01:42:41] oh my gawd, that's a terrific news :D [01:43:08] That doesn't mean the first attempt will work.. [01:43:23] sure, still it's good news :) [01:43:35] Merlissimo: anyway, we're trying to put tn.wp in the game too [01:43:54] (and af.wp, and yo.wp, and mg.wp, and...) [01:44:36] anyway, I need to go to sleep now :) it was a nice chat [01:44:52] When data starts to be uploaded vandalism will start too [01:44:56] good night all [01:45:10] For now its no fun in vandalizing [01:45:43] Jeblad_WMDE: i think flagged revs must be enabled first [01:46:19] how will you runflagged revs on wikidata? [01:47:05] Flagged Revs uses html-snapshots of the pages [01:47:33] It will hide vandalism on Wikidata that is shown on Wikipedia [01:49:23] An alternativ is to only show on Wikipedia data from patrolled revisions, or data with references [01:50:08] But we can't hide whats going on in Wikidata, that is dangerous [01:50:12] then sth. different is needed [01:50:32] yes, agree on that [01:51:34] I have an idea about automatic check on references, but not all data will have references [01:52:19] Its a kind of "quote where your data emerge and we check if the quote is valid" [02:46:02] http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/27/something-missing-in-chinese-newspapers-entirely-accurate-summary-of-onion-report/ [03:01:51] Nice. [03:19:22] legoktm: I just redid https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Label [03:19:24] thoughts? [03:19:37] * legoktm reads [03:20:39] hm [03:21:09] labels can have any capitalization? [03:21:34] also, descriptions are searchable right? [03:24:04] is there a reason we want labels to be in english? [03:24:43] like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hu_Jintao, shouldn't we show his name in chinese? [03:25:45] * legoktm pokes Sven_Manguard  [03:26:23] the english label is in english... [03:26:26] legoktm: labels change by language [03:26:49] so if your selected language is French, your labels are in French [03:27:09] The label for Hu Jintao would be "Hu Jintao" [03:27:16] in English [03:27:21] oh [03:27:25] and 胡锦涛 in Chinese [03:27:35] makes sense [03:27:48] looks fine to me then :) [03:50:36] Jeblad_WMDE: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w3k-GIOHfmk/UI2N2LuJsUI/AAAAAAAAHfU/iPf_sqiEf5w/s1440/2012-10-28%252002.23.42.jpg Is this the office? [08:33:38] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35426 [08:49:29] New patchset: Hashar; "jenkins test" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32768 [09:47:44] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Renaming inputAutoExpand jQuery plugin" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35602 [09:51:42] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Renaming inputAutoExpand jQuery plugin" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35602 [09:55:22] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Getting the same failures as John. I'm not getting them on current master." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35398 [09:58:49] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Renaming inputAutoExpand jQuery plugin" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35602 [10:14:30] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35602 [10:26:16] Silke_WMDE: hello Silke :-) [10:26:27] hi [10:26:44] Silke_WMDE: you had an issue with ssh to the labs instance yesterday, I though it was related to some ssh timeout [10:27:05] Silke_WMDE: it ends up a process was eating all memory on the bastion thus the connections were randomly killed [10:27:17] Silke_WMDE: Faidon fixed it :-] So there should be no more problem [10:27:33] Yes, I saw the e-mails this morning. Cool, it's working again! [10:27:55] It gave me a free afternoon yesterday. :) [10:30:04] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(bug 40956) Initially saving new claims is working" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35570 [10:40:28] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(bug 40956) Initially saving new claims is working" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35570 [11:05:18] http://www.zeit.de/wirtschaft/2012-11/ber-baufirmen-liquiditaet [11:09:11] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Minor optimizations for inputAutoExpand jQuery plugin" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35606 [11:12:20] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35432 [11:12:35] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35570 [11:30:57] New patchset: Henning Snater; "eachchange jquery plugin optimizations" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35608 [11:41:54] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35548 [12:07:06] New review: Aude; "Some initial comments and inline...." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35420 [12:22:28] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 42060) Minor cleanup to wbgetentities" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35169 [12:22:56] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 42494) skip write ops in ChangeRowTest on client instance" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35610 [12:24:10] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 42494) skip write ops in ChangeRowTest on client instance" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35610 [12:26:00] New patchset: Henning Snater; "dataTypes.jquery.valueview QUnit test fix" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35611 [13:19:59] New patchset: Henning Snater; "inputAutoExpand jquery plugin: option to suppress new lines" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35613 [13:21:08] how does links to sister sites that are not wp? [13:21:17] eg English Wikisource [13:21:44] how does one link ... [13:24:39] not to worry, question has been addressed at project chat [13:26:30] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 42060) Minor cleanup to wbgetentities" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35169 [13:27:38] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35169 [13:28:44] sDrewth: i guess the answer is "not yet". [13:29:30] yep, just reading the conversation there [13:48:01] New review: Aude; "should fix the spacing but otherwise the patch looks good and makes the tests work nicely on the client" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35610 [13:58:44] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added removereferences API module" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35389 [13:58:50] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added setstatementrank API module" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35397 [13:58:55] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updated @ingroup for repo tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35398 [14:03:43] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added removereferences API module" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35389 [14:03:59] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added setstatementrank API module" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35397 [14:04:07] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updated @ingroup for repo tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35398 [14:14:54] again some pages have been skipped... [14:14:55] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Carrying out the trash" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35617 [14:17:07] Stryn: but that does not hurt, does it? [14:17:15] i assume it is a failing item creation [14:17:29] the numbers will not be consecutive due to many different reasons [14:18:47] ok, strange... [14:19:10] Someone should write a defrag function [14:19:22] :D [14:19:37] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35617 [14:27:03] I can see on the main page: "November 29, 2012: Item ID Q200000 have been skipped, just five days after Q100000." [14:27:13] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(no bug) added missing QUnit tests to selenium" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35618 [14:36:01] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Some additional classes for wb.ui.Toolbar.EditGroup in DOM" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35619 [14:36:01] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Inactive tooolbars in entityview will now be disabled when entering edit mode" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35620 [14:44:50] aude: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/35610/ [14:45:14] aude: sorry, wait [14:46:48] Stryn: nice point :) [14:46:51] yes can happen [14:46:55] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 42494) skip write ops in ChangeRowTest on client instance" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35610 [14:46:56] aude: now https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/35610/ [14:47:09] soon we should have a proper counter again [14:47:15] then we know how many items we actually have [14:56:37] New review: Aude; "@todo can be to make the changesTable use this pattern in the ClientSqlStore and store in the repo, ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35420 [14:58:43] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added setstatementrank API module" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35397 [14:58:57] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Updated @ingroup for repo tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35398 [15:11:36] what? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/35617/ !!!! lol! [15:12:46] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35610 [15:15:56] New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32768 [15:26:10] Denny_WMDE: http://pastebin.com/58xpnTXF [15:26:11] ok? [15:27:21] New patchset: Aude; "check if cache tables exist in pollforchanges rebuild option" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35627 [15:42:29] why not oldvalue instead of snakhash? [15:42:34] ah, for novalue and somevalue? [15:42:40] snakhash would identify them too? [15:42:45] JeroenDeDauw: ^ [15:43:08] Denny_WMDE: yes, for those you do not have a value [15:43:26] the hash of a snak includes the type of snak, the property and the value [15:43:45] ok [15:43:49] will you change the wiki? [15:44:28] just did [15:45:35] Denny_WMDE: for the setQualifier the params property and snaktype are not strictly needed when modifying an existing value... [15:45:53] New patchset: Aude; "check if cache tables exist in pollforchanges rebuild option" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35627 [15:46:20] At least not always needed [15:46:29] Make them optional? [15:46:33] Denny_WMDE: ^ [15:48:10] yes [15:48:14] the more optional the better [15:49:54] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35606 [15:50:07] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35608 [15:50:19] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35611 [15:50:26] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35613 [15:51:24] JeroenDeDauw: zuul is happy with DataValues : https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/mwext-DataValues-testextensions/1/ :) [15:51:42] JeroenDeDauw: the very first build triggered by Zuul is a success \O/ [15:56:41] hashar: forgive my ignorance, but what's new here? We already have PHPUnit tests run on Jenkins for DataValues for a while - is it now doing more stuff? [15:57:20] JeroenDeDauw: mostly doing the same but using a different system. I am getting rid of the old Gerrit plugin in Jenkins [15:57:27] JeroenDeDauw: in favor of a python daemon :D [15:57:39] JeroenDeDauw: hopefully it is going to be the same as the previous job [15:59:46] hashar: sounds good :) [16:00:28] ciao [16:00:50] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35619 [16:01:20] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35620 [16:02:43] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35390 [16:03:03] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35618 [16:03:55] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(no bug) use HHtml::element instead of rawElement" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35632 [16:04:57] Change merged: Jens Ohlig; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35627 [16:07:13] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(no bug) use Html::element instead of rawElement" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35632 [16:09:56] New patchset: Henning Snater; "inputAutoExpand jquery widget: Copy styles to width ruler" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35636 [16:21:28] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35636 [16:21:57] New patchset: Aude; "per Jeroen, remove rebuild option in pollforchanges" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35637 [16:25:36] Denny_WMDE: ping! [16:25:45] sumanah, hi [16:25:55] via skype or google hangout? [16:26:14] Denny_WMDE: G+ [16:26:16] i see the invitation [16:26:17] I've Invited you [16:26:23] also: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:TemplateSandbox [16:26:25] it's cool! [16:30:51] hi guys [16:31:54] anyone here? [16:32:32] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35632 [16:36:06] New patchset: Aude; "(no bug) change rawElement -> element in a few more places" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35638 [16:40:26] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Add test to find out if my hypthesis regarding phpunit not finding not loaded files registered only in autoloader" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35640 [16:40:42] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35640 [16:41:01] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Wrapping JS initialized link to add statements in editsection" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35641 [16:44:54] New patchset: Aude; "remove callback in rebuild and deletealldata scripts" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35643 [17:02:19] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Nice work! ;)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35641 [17:02:20] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35641 [17:03:17] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35638 [17:09:36] what happens atm if i move a wiki page will the link be updated by wikidata? [17:13:10] Sk1d: not automatically, you have to change the link manually or then bot will update it some day. [17:18:31] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Restore magic loading of lib when present, broken in 05d6180c2655cdd842f443441ad070940160c697" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35645 [17:19:25] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "remove dead debug code" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35646 [17:34:39] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Initial poke at setqualifier API module: DO NOT SUBMIT" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35648 [17:42:41] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Workaround for failing tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35650 [17:44:52] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Workaround for failing tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35650 [17:46:54] JeroenDeDauw: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/35650/ [19:29:51] Hey. [19:30:46] benestar? we could also redirect Ambox to ombox? [19:30:55] what do you think of that? [19:31:02] would be better [19:31:24] Just wondering - is it fine to create a page with only one wiki link? [19:31:40] the problem is, all administrators import templates and there is such a big list of unused templates [19:31:46] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UnusedTemplates&limit=500&offset=0 [19:32:03] TheSeventh: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Is_one_article_enough.3F [19:32:26] thanks. wow, I have a lot of work to do. [19:32:30] see also [[WD:Notability]] [19:32:30] 10[3] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Discusi%C3%B3n:Notability [19:32:35] benestar: could you intregrate the stuff used on ambox to ombox? [19:32:43] TheSeventh: thats true, we all have so [19:32:58] what exactly do you mean, Wiki13? [19:33:27] well, some stuff in it is different [19:33:50] most of it is equal to ombox [19:33:58] benestar: [[WD:]] doesnt't work here apparently... [19:33:58] 10[4] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Discusi%C3%B3n: [19:34:21] [[Wikidata:Notability]] [19:34:21] 10[5] 10https://wikidata.wikidata.org/wiki/Notability [19:34:33] [[d:Wikidata:Notability]] [19:34:34] 10[6] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Discusi%C3%B3n:Wikidata:Notability [19:34:35] argh [19:34:39] lol [19:34:41] xD [19:34:43] what about [19:34:54] [[Wikidata:Wikidata::Notability]] [19:34:54] 10[7] 10https://wikidata.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata::Notability [19:34:54] :P [19:35:01] fFU [19:35:10] [[wikidata:wikidata:wikidata:notability]] [19:35:10] 10[8] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/wikidata:wikidata:notability [19:35:10] :: I typed twice [19:35:12] -.- [19:35:20] [[wikidata:wikidata:notability]] [19:35:20] 10[9] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/wikidata:notability [19:35:26] lol [19:35:28] fail [19:35:34] i did it, fu yeah :DDD [19:35:42] [[Wikidata:Wikidata:Notability]] just that [19:35:42] 10[10] 10https://wikidata.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Notability [19:35:43] :P [19:35:50] nice [19:35:50] argh [19:35:57] we fail hardly here [19:36:00] with this bot [19:36:01] :P [19:36:22] TheSeventh: question answered? [19:36:53] :') [19:37:14] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Notability <- shouldn´t be guideline above the text? [19:37:19] yep :) [19:37:42] lol [19:38:06] nice [19:38:54] template is unneeded btw [19:39:07] as the page uses translate extension [19:40:03] any translation admins in da house? [19:40:59] ja [19:41:02] here [19:41:13] ja? :O [19:41:27] y u no talk english :P [19:41:40] Wiki13 should be done [19:41:51] lukas23 i thought yeah [19:42:01] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Notability <- the template above is not needed because of translate extension [19:43:27] benestar: you marked a version with the template still in it [19:43:29] xD [19:43:38] uups [19:44:06] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Fixed add button which went broken in 14b42241" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35678 [19:44:08] and lolz [19:44:16] we ruined some translations [19:44:49] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35678 [19:45:06] Wiki13 look into history [19:45:14] nothing is lost in wikidata [19:45:33] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata%3ANotability%2Fes&diff=670372&oldid=488849 [19:45:34] :P [19:45:53] but this version should be ok [19:45:59] you can mark it for now [19:46:21] lukas23 I hate you >:) [19:46:27] :P [19:46:57] I delete the redundant template and will fix the translations that were ruined because of your action :P [19:47:51] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Notability&action=history <- benestar: can you mark the version now? :) [19:48:23] why did sven created botflag request for other users??? [19:48:52] Wiki13 should be done :) [19:49:18] I don´t see anything in the history [19:49:36] nvm [19:49:37] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Wikidata%3ANotability [19:49:43] lukas23 grr [19:49:56] wuzzuuuuuuuup benestar [19:51:02] Wiki13 I see something [19:51:14] hm? [19:52:28] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Notability/it <- really ugly [19:53:51] Wiki13 do you like it so? [19:54:00] {{guideline}} needs auto-translation... [19:54:00] 10[11] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:guideline [19:54:02] lol [19:58:17] benestar, y do u h8 me? [19:58:42] because you delete all items of wd:rfd [19:58:56] Deletionist Alert! [19:59:02] i'm sorry benestar :P [19:59:19] you're welcome [20:00:37] How did I get disconnected? [20:00:56] peer didn't like you [20:01:08] benestar, i deleted 11 pages... i don't think this is too much.. [20:02:34] d'oh. [20:10:06] benestar: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Notability <- template messes up text btw [20:10:23] text - template - text [20:10:23] : [20:10:26] :P* [20:10:45] grrr i *hate* it [20:11:06] lol [20:11:46] benestar: I guess one of the templates is messing it up [20:17:19] Wiki13 you've done it? [20:17:30] what? [20:19:18] benestar: what? [20:20:38] Wiki13 the template fix [20:20:56] no, not yet [20:21:10] darn these duplicates! [20:21:44] TheSeventh: use my deletion script [20:23:39] errr...link? [20:23:39] oh, User:Bene*/deletionRequest.js [20:27:20] benestar: I can´t find it :( [20:27:34] me too [20:28:21] maybe we should try something with spans or divs [20:30:24] possibly the 4px margin in ombox/core crapping it up. cya [20:30:37] mgm [20:31:46] Wiki13 I donot believe it but it's the shortcut [20:34:24] Wiki13: I don't know if Hurricanefan24 is supposed to be allowed to edit Wikidata. He's blocked as a sock on enwiki. [20:35:03] Vito: ^ [20:35:19] mhm [20:35:59] Should we block his account? [20:36:11] mhm [20:36:23] don´t know sure [20:36:36] Need opinions here [20:37:12] * JD|cloud|away has to go [20:37:13] did he do some edits here? [20:37:23] yes [20:37:23] well, it´s prejudicing imo [20:39:02] Why isn't he blocked globally? [20:39:12] I don´t know [20:39:20] only enwiki blocked him [20:39:26] hmm [20:39:42] did he do edits with his main account, too? [20:40:24] no [20:40:28] no [20:40:59] ok, as long as he does no edits with two accounts at the same time, we do not have to block him [20:41:03] *do [20:41:17] I was thinking almost the same [20:41:20] me 2 [20:41:20] in first instance [20:41:21] was right :/ [20:41:56] but if he does edits with the other account, too, we must block him because there are trusted sources that he is a sock puppet [20:42:05] we shouldn´t prejudice someone bacause he´s blocked on a wiki [20:42:08] imo [20:42:14] because* [20:42:15] thats right [20:42:31] but if we know he is a sock we should block him [20:42:40] or are socks allowed at wikidata? [20:43:05] we have no policy on that yet [20:44:09] or do we adopt the English one until Wikidata haves an own policy on this? [20:44:21] we should make our owns [20:44:32] because there are people from several wikis [20:44:35] yes, but we don´t have one atm [20:44:49] if we import some we should import them from commons [20:46:28] omg [20:46:43] giants fonts on my screen [20:47:08] me too [20:47:26] Wiki13 see project chat [20:47:32] oh [20:47:34] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Dafuq.3F [20:47:43] but imho better as when there was everything over [20:47:48] do you remember? [20:49:06] blocking should only be done when harm is done, like two accounts used in the same discussion [20:50:21] *fyi: we were talking about a person who´s blocked on enwiki for sockpuppets [20:50:42] do you have the same opinion now, after I told this? [20:52:57] ._. [20:53:26] whats up, lukas23 ? [20:54:19] i dunno. i'm just bored ;) [20:55:19] :p [20:58:38] Wiki13: IMO we should leave sock puppets, if they aren't missused on wikidatawiki [20:58:42] I personally think he should edit with his main account [20:59:15] Why wikidata is looking like this http://i.imgur.com/hsCM3.png? [20:59:54] Someone must have messed up a site message [21:00:18] kondi: look at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Dafuq.3F [21:00:29] isn't a problem for me while logged in [21:00:35] * JD|cloud|away must go again [21:00:50] :( [21:01:44] * benestar must also go [21:01:46] bye [21:02:38] Wiki13: yes [21:02:44] ok [21:03:01] but I also got opinions of other users aswell [21:03:01] seperate wiki's [21:03:28] and that´s also what they were saying [21:03:28] :p [21:03:28] bloicking is for those who harm a project, in what way does this user harm the project right now? [21:03:39] that's the question [21:04:12] I know users who behave themselves on one project perfectly, but on another project totally not :p [21:05:29] guys [21:05:36] I can not put multiple interwikis only time in wikidata? [21:05:57] with slurpinterwiki you can add multiple [21:06:00] there is a tool to import iw's from a certain project [21:06:20] after you add a first link [21:06:36] you can enable this in your preferences [21:06:52] the link will show up in the sidebar [21:07:06] cool \o/ [21:07:10] :p [21:07:16] so thanks! [21:07:32] you're welcome [21:13:13] hi JD|cloud|away, so but I was having dinner [21:13:15] tell me! [21:15:16] another thing ... projects like Wiktionary, wikisource and wikivoyage can benefit greatly from wikidata. As you include them in the future so as not to be commingled with data from wikipedia? [22:15:42] hm my bot cant login per api [22:16:53] and the web inteface of wikidata seesm buggi to me (german) can anybody confirm this? [22:19:31] he seems vpn is refusing connection... [22:44:32] Vito: so should Hurricanefan24 be allowed to edit? [22:44:41] he's a sock of someone on enwiki [22:45:42] sock of...? [22:45:59] see his CA [22:46:43] yep I already did it [22:47:11] https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Hurricanefan24&diff=prev&oldid=83852060 :| [22:47:29] well, lemme start giving him a look with my magic glasses [22:48:58] wtf is https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Babel_AutoCreate ? [22:49:40] like Meta Welcome bot [22:50:13] Vito: it's already confirmed by CU [22:50:15] on enwiki [22:50:42] I know JD|cloud but I'm looking for abuses on wikidata [22:51:34] Wait, why is this even an issue? I see no harmful edits from http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Hurricanefan24 [22:51:39] it's not a welcome bot but some stuff related to an extension [22:52:02] makes categories for the babel extension irrc [22:52:04] iirc* [22:52:06] and as all this kind of extensions it appears as a puppet from checkuser :| [22:52:33] yep, I'd tend to let him edit under a certain surveillance [22:52:39] ^ [22:52:58] CU wasn't necessary, just needed opinion (in your capacity as a sysop) [22:53:31] yep but I wanted to take a look by myself and start a report for the future [22:53:45] that guy seems to like to have puppets [22:54:01] so it's quite possible he, in the future, will abuse of them again [22:54:59] ??? [22:55:04] Vito: ?? [22:55:18] ¿? [22:55:35] Was there socking on wikidata already? :S [22:55:42] not yet [22:55:50] (self) Vituzzu changed user rights for Vituzzu@wikidatawiki from sysop to sysop, checkuser with the following comment: checking puppetmaster [22:56:48] yep but the puppetmaster had no puppets ;) [23:01:01] I see something weird on wikidata [23:02:17] some big words popping in the upper part of the page o.O [23:22:02] anyone else see things... broken? [23:22:23] Personal tools hovering over pages, etc? [23:23:19] well, the scripts don't work very well with monobook [23:23:35] and NO, I won't bow to vector [23:27:49] hehe [23:28:06] added fix to common.css/.js files, immediately regretted it and will re-add to vector-specific ones [23:28:13] * Ajraddatz forgets that other skins exist [23:45:38] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35637 [23:46:46] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Added new function $.fn.applyTemplate" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35826 [23:46:46] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Using the Claim templates in the Claim widgets now, introduced $.claimlistview" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35827 [23:50:14] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Why are you changing this?" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35643