[00:22:40] http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9781937785079.do [00:23:08] Somebody is going to buy a book, just because of the front page, and it is not me! [00:26:47] Whøt? There is a mic on my replacement Porta Pro? [00:42:44] Yes, its a mic there... Traded in a broken pair of Koss Porta Pro and got back a pair with mic and it is working! [00:43:00] Christmas gift from Koss to me! =D [00:43:22] * Jeblad_WMDE shakes his ass to ABBA.. [00:43:37] ...gimme, gimme, gimme a man after midnight... [00:43:55] ..oops, woman after midnight! #blush [01:27:36] Hi when's the infobox project getting underway? [01:32:34] Depends if the world ends or not on the 21st [01:37:35] Oh, I can see the world burning in the horizont! [09:13:09] weet iemand of Jeblad_WMDE achter z'n compu zit? [09:59:00] * aude wonders if anyone else is at the office, Henning_WMDE ? [09:59:22] Lydia_WMDE: ? [09:59:29] Lydia is present, Denny just arriving. [09:59:35] aude, I'm looking for Jeblad_WMDE - you seen him? [09:59:45] ah, okay [09:59:56] noorse: he's on holiday but saw him online hours ago [10:00:02] ah, ok :) [10:00:10] tnx! & best wishes : [10:00:12] :) [10:00:30] * aude assumes nobody is availble to code review my stuff today, so will plan accordingly [10:00:55] plan contains "enjoy"? [10:01:14] noorse: not me [10:01:55] hm, too bad... Hope it'll make your list soon :) [10:03:20] heh :) [10:17:56] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(minor) Fix for broken site link table layout after adding a link in IE" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39741 [11:02:08] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(minor) Fixating site links table layout" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39745 [11:10:15] aude: can you add something to the weekly summary please? [11:10:19] DanielK_WMDE: you too? [11:10:22] i want to send it out [11:10:38] Romaine: if you have anything to add to the weekly summary please add it :) [11:10:50] anyone else who has something they want me to add to the weekly summary please let me know [11:10:57] AnjaJ_WMDE: weekly summary? [11:14:22] Lydia_WMDE: ok :) [11:14:28] thx AnjaJ_WMDE [11:14:29] eh [11:14:32] aude [11:14:34] heh [11:14:40] * Lydia_WMDE kicks her tab-completion [11:35:30] Silke_WMDE: i'm debugging on dev repo now [11:40:53] Anyone around? [11:41:30] !help I need a little advice on a few project pages. [11:41:42] hi rsrikanth05 [11:41:53] * kondi waves at rsrikanth05 [11:42:41] hi Kondi, nice to see you here. [11:44:21] I recently created to News pages, one for Hindi and one for Tamil. [11:45:19] The thing is that instead of creating WD:News/hi or WD:News/ta created them as WD:local_name [11:45:24] Is that alright? [11:47:36] I've seen both [11:48:27] so, is it okay? or do I need to go for WD:News/hi or WDhindi_mainpage/newspage? [11:48:36] eh, anyone experiencing an issue with the UI of Wikidata? [11:48:40] I meant WD:hindi_mainpage/newspage? [11:48:54] no, not that one, rsrikanth05 [11:48:54] Hydriz: like what? [11:48:55] Hi Hydriz, what kind of issue. [11:49:05] I am getting two search boxes [11:49:14] one is the normal version, the other is the search by title [11:49:14] o_O [11:49:25] * Hydriz figures how to create a screenshot [11:49:27] ?? [11:49:30] Denny_WMDE: we didn't replace the normal search box with an item selector yet, did we? [11:49:39] no [11:49:50] on which page? [11:49:54] Hydriz: ^ [11:50:06] all [11:50:12] oh [11:50:13] yes [11:50:19] Yes, there are two search boxes. the seocnd one is very handy. [11:50:19] there is a little drop down [11:50:23] Hydriz: if you could grab the raw HTML of these search boxes (or the entire page), that would also be helpful [11:50:33] i see that too [11:50:38] let me check common.js [11:50:39] hm? [11:50:39] yes, there is a dropdown [11:50:52] but clicking on that results in three search boxes [11:51:06] heh... [11:51:11] a print screen would help. [11:51:16] Denny_WMDE: that dropdown thing isn't realy ideal, i think.. [11:51:33] i don [11:51:40] i don't even know where it comes from [11:52:35] sounds like a gadget [11:52:52] maybe some gadgets are enabled for everyone now? [11:53:03] lol don't tell me only I am getting this problem [11:53:39] oh, i see two :o [11:54:02] i am not even logged in [11:54:10] http://bots.wmflabs.org/~hydriz/screenshot.png (note I didn't click on the dropdown thingy) [11:54:23] can you tell a gadget to be switched on for anons? [11:54:36] Denny_WMDE: login [11:54:41] i only see two if logged in [11:55:08] ok, it's a gadget [11:55:15] afk going for lunch [11:55:16] Search: Shows a small link right to the search field which provides a search form to find an item directly by its label. (enabled by default) [11:55:29] http://bots.wmflabs.org/~hydriz/screenshot_2.png (if I click on the dropdown thingy) [11:55:56] oh, you have 3 now [11:56:19] oh lol, I see the gadget [11:56:22] * aude too [11:56:37] all well after disabling it [11:57:20] Good idea, though :D [11:58:37] benestar can help [11:58:46] i think it's his gadget [12:01:20] should I disable the gadget globally first? [12:02:30] importScript( 'User:Bene*/search.js' ); [12:02:36] wait no [12:02:37] i had that in my user js [12:02:43] I think this problem is isolated to me [12:02:46] it's now a gadget by default, so maybe that's why it's twice [12:02:48] me too! [12:02:56] but only as my [[User:Aude]] account [12:03:00] I must have something else that breaks it [12:03:02] yeah [12:03:02] my WMDE account does not have that [12:03:09] check your user js [12:03:29] lol [12:03:29] removing it from my user js seems to fix it [12:03:38] bingo haha [12:03:49] http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-Search.js&action=history [12:04:03] * aude has all the gadgets enabled :) [12:04:38] right, now I don't see it at all [12:05:16] if i click the drop down arrow, then i can search item by title [12:05:27] think that's how it's supposed to work, right? [12:05:34] yep [12:05:37] good [12:06:01] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets [12:06:04] it should be there [12:06:55] hmm, might be my own CSS customisation [12:07:06] maybe or caches [12:07:16] try adding ?debug=true at the end of the url [12:07:32] that helps bypass the resource loader stuff which caches [12:07:53] cool, didn't know that [12:08:27] nope, I still think its my own CSS [12:08:41] I am using the expanded search box hack [12:08:51] ok [12:09:54] thanks for the help anyway :) [12:10:56] sure [12:18:16] Silke_WMDE: AnjaJ_WMDE did someone disable memcached on devrepo? [12:18:50] yeah aude I just did it because AnjaJ_WMDE is having phpunit failures [12:19:15] umm, okay but sometime i'd like to debug [12:19:48] 1) it's not using the file cache like it's supposed to [12:19:58] 2) something is wrong with the memcached [12:20:06] np I'll turn it on again right now as phpunit failures stayed the same with or without [12:20:27] ok [12:20:44] are you editing LocalSettings right now? [12:22:04] ok, memcached is on [12:22:49] i'm debugging [12:23:26] I was wondering if /tmp is such a good location for the cached files [12:23:52] because if I am right, after each reboot, the file permissions have to be corrected? [12:25:06] I didn't reboot since the directories are there but it's actually quite frequent that those instances want to be rebooted. [12:25:52] Silke_WMDE: anywhere is fine for cache [12:26:19] wmf uses puppet (of course) to ensure the file permissions are set [12:26:37] exactly and until now we are not. [12:26:49] we can move the cache [12:30:00] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(Bug 43304) Changed DOM for snak type selector" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39752 [12:46:45] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(Bug 43304) Changed DOM for snak type selector" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39752 [12:47:29] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39741 [13:42:03] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39745 [13:46:42] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Work on cleaning up EntityDiff [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39229 [13:48:01] Silke_WMDE: how do i switch on experimental? [13:48:31] define( 'WB_EXPERIMENTAL_FEATURES', 1 ); [13:48:37] sweet thx [13:48:41] :) what aude says [13:48:42] Denny_WMDE: put that above where you include the extensions [13:48:51] put it below and they won't work [13:48:52] k good to know [13:49:15] * aude is stress testing the dev repo to see if memcached crashes again [13:51:57] * Silke_WMDE thinks that including experimental below the extensions works, too [13:53:06] * devrepo isn't crashing [13:53:13] not yet :) [13:55:20] :) [14:03:00] Silke_WMDE: add moar cats to it! [14:06:17] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed @since tags" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39760 [14:06:25] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39760 [15:00:44] aude: Found anything on dev-9? [15:07:43] Silke_WMDE_: set up logging for memcached in the local settings [15:07:50] wait and see [15:08:02] k [15:08:20] * aude was unable to make it crash, which is okay [15:09:32] good :) [15:10:40] also in memcached.conf ... [15:10:42] # Return error when memory is exhausted (rather than removing items) [15:10:47] there's a setting for that [15:11:16] see if changing that does anything [15:12:17] why is fallback not used for e.g. http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q715703?uselang=de-formal ? [15:17:33] we dont have fallback implemented yet [15:55:21] Silke_WMDE_: so, we're trying a new setting $wgUseLocalMessageCache = true on the devrepo and client [15:55:30] it may help [15:56:53] Ok. Thank you! Hope it helps this time! [15:57:12] * aude hopes so! [15:57:33] i'll monitor stuff over the holidays [15:57:43] I#ll try to, too [15:57:46] ok [16:28:00] Hello. [16:28:59] Anyone from WMDE around? [16:30:38] sure [16:30:41] Lydia_WMDE: [16:31:05] Lydia_WMDE: is already gone [16:31:08] I am here [16:31:24] Hi Denny. [16:31:56] I'm sorry I disappeared earlier today. My internet connection ran into problems. [16:32:22] same question? [16:32:34] Yes sir, I also posted on your talk page. [16:32:36] i don't know the answer - that's not a WMDE decision, it's a community decicion [16:33:02] as far as i can tell, you did it consistently with the other languages [16:33:13] if you are unsure, just ask on the project chat [16:33:22] and if no one yells at you it probably is fine [16:34:06] as said, nothing we decide :) [16:34:16] roger? [16:34:17] Okay. I'm a little confused. German is Wikidata:Hauptseite/Aktuelles which translates to Wikidata: Home / News [16:34:31] I asked an admin, User:Vogone, and he said it seems okay. [16:34:52] ? [16:35:12] Rsrikanth05: ask your question again [16:35:23] I am actually positive that Sannita and benestar can help you better than me :) [16:35:31] I was just wondering if you could let me know whether Wikidata:समाचार is correct for the Hindi news page, or should I have had it as WD:News/hi? [16:35:32] well, I think translated titles are always better than untranslated [16:36:02] I'm actually hi-0 :( [16:36:32] * Sannita thinks it better NOT to translate titles, but is also fairly liberal with that [16:36:58] i think there is no decision yet [16:37:05] okay. so should I redirect to WD:News/Hi ? [16:37:16] i think it would be better [16:37:24] I did some checking into the backgrounds of other languages. [16:37:28] for other pages. [16:37:40] because otherwise nobody knows what समाचार means [16:37:54] Like fr Chat page is called Bistro, es is cafe. [16:38:04] :/ [16:38:13] Didn't quite get you. [16:38:41] i thought that the project chat pages are similar [16:38:46] benestar: no [16:38:48] and maybe should be redirects, too [16:39:01] +1 on benestar [16:39:10] or you redirect WD:Project chat/fr to WD:Bistro [16:39:26] that would be fine imho [16:39:42] benestar: redirects from WD:News/ISO-Code are completely senseless [16:39:51] you think so? [16:39:55] yeah [16:40:03] maybe redirect the other way round [16:40:08] you can watch the news on the main page [16:40:23] it doesn't matter which name the subpage has [16:40:26] I'm with EmperorofChina. Because currently, Mainpages are WD:local_name [16:40:35] other question beside [16:40:46] should the main page be translated with extension? [16:40:54] I don't think so. [16:40:58] I'd oppose [16:41:03] why? [16:41:18] UNLESS, there are two languages where Main Page has the same page. [16:41:34] EmperorofChina, you're opposing which? [16:43:38] Should we bring this to Project Chat? [16:44:47] Rsrikanth05: I agree with you [16:45:16] I'm here!! [16:45:27] Who's there?? [16:45:31] Hi Jeblad! [16:45:36] +1 [16:45:46] Doble exclamation marks are fun!!?? [16:45:48] hehe [16:45:55] EmperorofChina, Should I ask on Project Chat? [16:46:07] Jeblad, umpteen !'s are better. :) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [16:46:45] Rsrikanth05: I wouldn't discuss about redirects ... but the question how to use the translate extension could be relevant [16:46:51] Or as it was written in one of the Discworld books; Five exclamation marks, a sure sign of insanity! [16:47:17] I was talking about naming conventions rather. Should we have the local name, or the En one with/lang-code [16:48:05] * Jeblad_WMDE has eaten an Halibutt and tries to copy its behavior - sliding into a horison [16:48:12] horizontal position [16:48:17] Happy eating. :) [16:48:34] It was good, and it was fresh... [16:48:50] * Jeblad_WMDE has bad memories [16:49:17] Don't worry, we all do. [16:51:57] Chocolate anyone? =) nammenam [16:53:05] Jeblad_WMDE online! [16:53:08] :) [16:53:32] Hey, the projectrockabillygirl! [16:53:36] Jeblad, can I have some? [16:54:19] hey all! I am looking for the LocalSettings.php used for wikidata on test2. Can't find anything on gerrit... Can anyone point me to it? [16:54:22] Oh yeah, just jump a plane to Norway! =) [16:54:59] Its some page where all configs are published [16:55:39] Ask the ops people in #wikimedia-tech, I don't remember the link.. perhaps someone do.. [16:55:44] Jeblad, are you from Norway? [16:56:08] The land of polar bears and trolls [16:57:00] Aaah. PErhaps you could help out with some images on the Commons. [16:57:02] yes there is trolls, I've been in Norway many times, lol... [16:57:15] I shall grab you on your talk apge. [16:57:46] I'm jeblad at wikipedia .. er everywhere I think [16:58:02] I shall get in touch. [16:58:03] Except for the official wmde account at meta [17:02:16] Okay guys, see you on Wikidata. Need to go for Dinner. Cheerio. [17:06:41] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Work on cleaning up EntityDiff [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39229 [17:07:08] Merlissimo: ping [17:13:45] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Some work on the datatype interface" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39020 [19:12:36] Fatal error: Call to a member function getNumericId() on a non-object in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.21wmf6/extensions/Wikibase/repo/includes/api/ApiGetEntities.php on line 12 [19:12:41] Fatal error: Call to a member function getPrefixedId() on a non-object in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.21wmf6/extensions/Wikibase/repo/includes/api/ApiGetEntities.php on line 129 [19:12:44] * Reedy looks for bugs [19:13:55] first one is 129 to [19:13:57] can't be good [19:13:59] 2 fatals on one line :D [19:15:58] Hmm, no sign of any stack traces.. [19:18:52] Looks like it's probably fixed on master [20:44:07] Darn I forgot to get ready to Doomsday and now its over! [20:44:16] Did anything interesting happen? [20:44:33] I'm a bit lost here up on the roof ofthe world.. [20:44:35] ;) [20:47:03] Jeblad_WMDE: nothing interesting ;p [20:47:24] No flames from the ground? [20:47:33] nope [20:47:34] No gigant meteors? [20:48:28] not on obentrautstr. 72 [20:49:28] Out of Mate? [20:49:45] That could be the end of the world as some people knows it,... [20:50:02] No, rather drowning in Mate as there weren't many people in the office. [20:56:18] somehow unpacking of AbuseFilter during a git pull fails [20:56:24] It just hangs [21:03:25] xD [21:03:29] ironie was here [21:03:53] no more ironie [21:04:01] :( [21:36:44] benestar: hey :) i am here now [21:36:49] anything i can still help you with? [21:37:11] Lydia_WMDE: no, there was someone asking for a wmde member [21:37:18] ah ok [21:39:38] denny helped him [21:42:32] right [21:51:33] thieol2|asleep: here? [23:54:15] bene, are you still there ?