[01:05:30] is there a minimum support level for translation admin? [01:06:12] I think it's being handled the same as admin. [01:06:40] Dunno why though. Meta policy just requires a good reason, not a full vote. [01:07:22] yeah, looking at the old translation request [01:08:50] You don't need to ask the community if your an admin [01:10:13] no, it's for the pending request [09:52:27] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Correctly focus next claim's edit button when removing a claim" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42081 [10:04:33] moin! [10:04:57] frohes neues! i hope you all arrived in the new year smoothly and happily! [10:07:00] moin :) [10:07:43] moin moin [10:11:59] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41961 [10:13:38] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Work on cleaning up EntityDiff [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39229 [10:23:59] moin! [10:24:54] Are any of you at WMDE's? [10:37:31] Change abandoned: Aude; "this will be obsolete and covered in new patch that restructures recent change output and adds tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39600 [10:43:25] Silke_WMDE: we are here [10:43:40] more of us than yesterday [10:43:45] :) [11:05:25] ..one of us is craying, one of us is lyiiiing... #singing [11:15:50] Jeblad_WMDE: What's that? ABBA??? [11:16:13] Åff cårse! [11:17:32] LOL! I am listening to my oldest CDs right now and just finished "ABBA-esque" by Erasure. :D [11:17:48] (Generation cover songs) [11:18:29] ...ring, ring, I stare at the phone on the wall... #singng [11:18:36] That was some years ago! [11:18:49] Not many with a wall-mounth phone now [11:19:02] :) [11:19:32] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Strict check so empty strings and strings with just 0 get handled correctly" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42083 [11:36:22] aude I'll drop you an e-mail about load balancer config... #sigh [11:36:45] Silke_WMDE I'm only back to work today and will check if my problem persists later [11:37:17] AnjaJ_WMDE: ok. Yeah, after sending yesterday's e-mail, I realized you were not yet back. [11:37:19] what's dev-9's status? [11:37:27] looks ok at the moment [11:37:42] ok, heisenberg instance ;) [11:38:13] when are you back in the office? monday? [11:39:00] Silke_WMDE: it works, right? [11:39:17] not for my puppet test server [11:39:36] hmmm [11:39:50] can i see the puppet files? [11:41:31] They are on "wikidata-puppet-client" in /var/lib/git/operations/puppet [11:41:39] ok [11:43:05] The settings file is generated in a very non-elegant way at the moment: In manifests/role/labsmediawiki.pp you can add config stuff for an Wikidata instance. [11:43:20] ok [11:43:43] It looks strange, that's why I sent you my LB settings via mail a moment ago [11:43:58] ok [11:45:16] http://wikidata-puppet-client.pmtpa.wmflabs/wiki/Main_Page (the public IP is 208.80.153.155) [11:47:58] Silke_WMDE: and the dbuser and password are the same for both the repo and client db, even though they are on different instances? [11:48:20] not the password [11:48:30] dbuser and db name yes [11:48:47] until noww this is not customizable in puppet [11:50:45] ok [12:01:54] Silke_WMDE: so, http://208.80.153.155/wiki/ is the wiki? (errors and all) [12:04:11] the client, yes. Oh! With new errors, but those at least are familiar. [12:04:41] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40091 [12:04:49] php maintenance/rebuildLocalisationCache.php [12:04:49] DB connection error: Access denied for user 'wikiuser'@'10.4.1.53' to database 'my_wiki' (10.4.1.52:3306) [12:06:02] hrm [12:08:26] aude Yesterday I tried to allow the connection for that "wikiuser" (though it doesn't exist on either server). Then it complained the same for "root". [12:09:05] Any idea where that wikiuser guy comes from? [12:09:25] that might be the default db user? [12:09:49] Ah, you mean like my_wiki is default, too. Might be. [12:12:08] from the client instance, i simply try mysql -u root -p -D testwiki [12:12:15] wait.... [12:12:20] need the host [12:12:25] that worked for me [12:12:27] wait... [12:12:37] 10.4.1.52 is the repo [12:12:46] or wikidata-puppet-repo [12:13:34] the password is in /srv/mediawiki/orig/adminpass [12:14:09] mysql -u root -p -D testwiki -h 10.4.1.52 [12:14:41] ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'10.4.1.53' (using password: YES) [12:15:04] höö? I get in. [12:15:12] sure i'm using the correct repo db password [12:15:56] hm... I used the pw from the client adminpass file [12:16:15] and on the repo I allowed to connect with the client credentials [12:16:56] oh, ok [12:17:20] ok, works [12:18:42] so, $wgDBpassword should work from the client [12:19:04] yeah [12:20:01] Silke_WMDE: so, i wonder if it's wise to have the same $wgDBname for both client and repo? [12:20:20] what does $wgDBname => 'DEFAULT', actually say? Why default? [12:20:40] when we specify $wgWBSettings['repoDatabase'] = "testwiki"; [12:20:54] well, "testwiki" is ambiguous and probably thinks it's the client db [12:21:04] Probably it's not wise to use the same db name. [12:21:47] Actually, I would be done with puppet if I didn't use all the mediawiki stuff that brings so many restrictions for us. [12:22:29] i'm not sure 'DEFAULT' is wrong but i don't set mine like that [12:22:31] https://github.com/filbertkm/mediawiki-config/blob/master/DBSettings.php [12:22:35] What I could do is try to connect that client to dev repo, couldn't I? [12:22:45] * aude mimicks wmf and has 's1' and 's2' [12:22:57] to see if it works with a different db name [12:22:58] Silke_WMDE: yes you could try it [12:23:17] or just set up another db on the puppet repo instance [12:23:31] can we configure the db name in puppet? [12:23:36] no [12:23:51] not yet [12:23:52] why not? (/me grumbles) [12:24:32] I will bother Andrew with this. Should be customizable [12:25:45] OK, so I'll try out a different repo db next. But first: lunchtime. [12:25:49] CU later [12:27:00] ok [12:54:04] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 43606) more selenium tests for statements UI" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42085 [13:27:14] Its pigflu in the area [13:27:31] I think I'm not infected .. oink oink.. [13:32:04] oink (o o) [13:43:14] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Improved aliases pixel precision" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42088 [13:48:19] * Silke_WMDE is shaking her head looking at documentation... [13:48:36] "Install.php is a CLI-based MediaWiki maintenance script for the MediaWiki installation and configuration." #EOF [13:56:17] Silke_WMDE: you really don't need to run install.php [13:57:06] I'm just looking at it [13:57:30] btw trying to connect to a different repo didn't work either. [13:57:43] (where the db name is different) [13:57:59] * aude sometimes does mysql -u aude -p -D mywiki < tables.sql [13:58:08] tables.sql found in mthe maintenance folder [13:58:37] what does that do? [13:58:37] * aude not sure why the different repo didn't work [13:58:55] Silke_WMDE: that just populates the mediawiki tables (no main page, no users) [13:59:01] no extensions either [13:59:17] but then i can run createAndPromote.php and make an admin/bureaucrat user [13:59:22] I was just thinking about installing a client wiki with "wikiuser" and "my_wiki" [13:59:31] ok [13:59:32] and put my local settings in [14:01:03] my local settings file consists of : require_once( __DIR__ . '/../CommonSettings.php' ); [14:01:16] and maybe a second require_once with specific settings for my wiki [14:03:30] * Jeblad_WMDE is glad he still has a few days of vacation [14:03:42] * aude jealous [14:03:49] ...what is this "documentation"? [14:05:24] Open books published in closed format.. ;p [14:05:43] * Jeblad_WMDE hints to Nightrose [14:10:13] Jeblad_WMDE: hmm? [14:10:39] OpenAdvice is published in Closed PDF [14:10:49] the source is on github [14:10:51] latex [14:11:05] and is linked on the homepagfe [14:14:11] But that mean I must do something to produce epub! [14:14:19] I'm on vacation! [14:14:27] -.- [14:14:46] * Jeblad_WMDE faints due to brain overload [14:14:59] Jeblad_WMDE: http://open-advice.org/Open-Advice.epub [14:15:05] also linked on the homepage ;-) [14:15:12] darn.. [14:21:22] Seems like the epub-book works.. Some open books in epub format doesn't work on Kobo reader and I have no idea why.. :( [14:21:50] i only work with experts so of course it works ;-) [14:22:53] You've been working with me.. ;p [14:24:12] you're an expert in breaking things so... :P [14:25:02] I have a file with no hidden fields, still the reader says it is a copy infringement [14:25:27] It must do some kind of fingerprinting.. grr.. [14:28:31] HAS SOMEONE STOLEN MY CHAIR AND CHANGED THE HEIGHT? ITS STRICTLY FORBIDDEN!!! [14:28:59] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 43606) more selenium tests for statements UI" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42085 [14:53:31] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39019 [14:54:40] anyone here? [14:57:46] * aude here  [14:57:53] :) [14:57:57] Jeblad_WMDE: o_O I took your chair and put my name on it.. now it's my precioussss... [14:58:11] want to test this script? https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User:Bene*/sitelink.js [14:59:27] benestar: what does it do? [14:59:59] * aude can test when i get home later [15:00:13] you can test if the sitelink is already in use [15:00:23] so you do not have to create an item to test it [15:00:41] got the idea here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Item_sandbox [15:00:55] ah, nice [15:01:16] * aude always starts at Special:ItemByTitle before creating items [15:01:24] but this is nicer [15:03:47] * Jeblad_WMDE casts a spell on TobiasG_WMDE [15:08:11] benestar: you can't always merge lang and "wiki" and hope to get a working siteid [15:08:54] hu [15:09:03] where is there a problem? [15:09:07] An other thing is that you can use wgUserLang (I think it is that one) from the config object to initialize your own language in the form [15:09:27] good idea [15:10:19] You get two problems, one is that some user languages are not the codes used for the id at all and the other one is tha *wiki just happens to be the common one right now [15:10:58] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Work on cleaning up EntityDiff [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39229 [15:11:07] A site id can be to other wikis (and even not wikis at all) and not only wikipedia [15:11:41] I think the first one will be Commons, and they are in their own group now [15:12:12] Previously (or sometime in the past) they was in the same group as wikipedia [15:12:29] But a good idea anyhow [15:17:01] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42083 [15:22:50] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Improved site links table layout fixation" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42091 [15:42:13] damned [15:42:15] argh [15:42:21] >:( [15:45:29] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed check for assoc diffs" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42093 [16:07:33] DanielK_WMDE: anything for the telco today? [16:07:46] Denny_WMDE1: hi [16:07:47] ugh [16:07:50] that time already, is it? [16:07:55] hm... [16:08:01] in an hour [16:08:06] yea [16:09:02] so... 1) confirm the deployment schedule 2) say we are working on AbuseFilter (probably ready next week) 3) we'll change the change replication stuff (next week or the week after) [16:10:10] Denny_WMDE1: about 3: we should discuss when and how to best introduce this change on the production cluster [16:10:32] oh, and 4) ask again for a schedule for the schema changes (but i guess asher is still on vacation) [16:10:53] Denny_WMDE1: can't think of anything else right now [16:11:56] ok, thanks [16:12:07] Hey Denny_WMDE1 [16:12:19] i have a few more topics,and will then send an email in the next few minuts [16:12:22] Hi Sven_Manguard! [16:14:28] aude: Denny_WMDE: tests with wmf7 & 12-19-tag went well, but I realized one thing: I3d21308d should go into the diff-extension otherwise bug 43285 will occur. [16:14:55] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed check for assoc diffs" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42093 [16:15:02] !bug 43285 [16:15:12] aww, that doesn't work here :( [16:15:56] an dependencies for that patchset? [16:16:33] can we set up a new tag or branch and have that merged and tested? [16:22:12] benestar: you around? [16:25:09] Denny_WMDE1: i'm afk for 20 minutes [16:29:13] Jeblad_WMDE: fixed some bugs, should work now [16:30:34] benestar: so all of these new bots are using your framework [16:30:50] Sven_Manguard: really? [16:30:56] you haven't noticed? [16:31:27] not really :/ [16:31:37] "This bot runs with DotNetDataBot, an extension of DotNetWikiBot-Framework by Bene*" [16:31:42] i know it only from some people [16:32:06] but i am happy that they like it :) [16:32:26] ValterVBot is using it, I think ThieolBot too [16:32:37] And there Ajraddatz is [16:32:48] boo [16:33:05] check your email Ajraddatz [16:33:14] I got your email. Still not sure if we need local bureaucrats. [16:33:44] Though, leaning towards the fact that there is a well-established community now and we don't need stewards looking over our shoulders for everything. [16:34:16] I think no project *needs* them, but things would run smoother/faster if we had them [16:34:50] and if we're going to have them, I want you to be one, because I want people who are highly active in the area [16:35:08] i.e. peeps that know the area well [16:35:30] Silke_WMDE: you there? [16:35:49] I was going to set up the admin reconfirmation things myself anyways (I doubt I'd have many people complaining that they wanted to do it themselves :P) [16:36:02] :D [16:36:07] Denny_WMDE1: yep [16:37:05] i have a vagrant set up [16:37:13] and try to get to the content of the db [16:37:15] how do i do that? [16:37:36] the content? a mysqldump? [16:37:49] just getting access with mysql would be awesome already [16:38:00] is there a way to get a shell of the VM? [16:38:12] ( i am a bit confused about the whole thing as you can tell ) [16:38:32] of course: vagrant ssh -> then you are in an Ubuntu Precise machine [16:38:37] thx [16:39:04] credentials are in the README [16:39:16] thx, works [16:41:07] Btw, bureaucrats can: Add groups: Administrators, Bureaucrats, Bots and Translation administrators [16:41:14] Remove groups: Bots [16:41:31] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Minor site links table layout improvements" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42095 [16:44:42] Silke_WMDE: do you know how i can call maintenance scripts in a vagrant precise VM? [16:44:57] i cannot just php nameofscript.php in the wikibase lib folder, right? [16:45:07] moment... [16:45:38] Ajraddatz: oh, good [16:47:28] Denny_WMDE1: Right. You have to tell it where the wiki is and then give the path to the scirpt. For pollForChanges it would look like this: MW_INSTALL_PATH=/srv/client /usr/bin/php /srv/extensions/Wikibase/lib/maintenance/pollForChanges.php [16:47:31] Are we having the wikidata meeting today? [16:47:55] Reedy: i assume so. at the full hour [16:48:06] i.e. 12 minutes [16:48:07] Alright [16:48:11] I'll get sorted so I can attend [16:48:19] thx, we are doing the same [16:49:07] Silke_WMDE: sorry, bin doof. ich will das populateSitesTable script laufen lassen [16:49:08] Denny_WMDE1: The mic is in the lower drawer underneath the printer. [16:49:10] Denny_WMDE1: is this a public meeting? [16:49:16] Sven_Manguard: sorry no [16:49:19] Aww. [16:49:31] IIRC most of the notes go public don't they? [16:49:33] just our weekly. it is boring, trust me [16:49:38] Oh [16:49:38] yes, they do [16:49:56] brb [16:49:57] Back in a few [16:50:01] Denny_WMDE1: I'll send you the command, mom [16:50:04] thx [16:51:07] Denny_WMDE1: if it's for the client: MW_INSTALL_PATH=/srv/client /usr/bin/php /srv/extensions/Wikibase/lib/maintenance/populateSitesTable.php [16:51:14] for the repo: [16:51:18] for the repo [16:51:22] MW_INSTALL_PATH=/srv/repo /usr/bin/php /srv/extensions/Wikibase/lib/maintenance/populateSitesTable.php [16:51:29] and where do i type this? [16:51:37] inside the VM shell [16:51:42] in any directory [16:51:43] ? [16:52:04] yes [16:52:40] Sven_Manguard: poke [16:53:19] Jasper_Deng: yes? [16:53:32] Denny_WMDE1: Good hint, I should improve the README with this. [16:53:59] Sven_Manguard: Some are starting to request 'crat, including me (in a few moments). However, I'm sure 75% is not enough for a 'crat, or even if not that, 10 !votes isn't enough. [16:54:12] re [16:55:29] PHP Warning: require_once(/srv/extensions/Wikibase/lib/maintenance/../../../../maintenance/Maintenance.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /srv/extensions/Wikibase/lib/maintenance/populateSitesTable.php on line 4 [16:55:29] PHP Fatal error: require_once(): Failed opening required '/srv/extensions/Wikibase/lib/maintenance/../../../../maintenance/Maintenance.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /srv/extensions/Wikibase/lib/maintenance/populateSitesTable.php on line 4 [16:55:54] benestar, set it up as a gadget? It would make it easier for users to test it out. [16:56:09] yes, just working on [16:56:37] Jeblad_WMDE: better idea for the name? [16:56:41] o_= [16:56:55] sitelink.js sounds a bit strange [16:57:07] maybe linkcheck.js? [16:57:23] thanks it works, silke [16:57:27] got a typo [16:57:34] Jasper_Deng: a dozen at 85%? I donno [16:57:40] What do other projects do? [16:57:53] Sven_Manguard: well Wikipedia typically looks for around that [16:57:55] ok [16:58:15] but we should go browse other projects and make a proposal [17:00:36] * Jasper_Deng pokes Ajraddatz ^ [17:00:55] I like my bureaucrat support ratio to be 80%. [17:01:12] Jeblad_WMDE: done [17:01:52] Sven_Manguard: would you be OK w/ 80%? [17:01:59] 80 is fine [17:02:06] How about the # of !votes? [17:02:16] Same for admin, 8 [17:02:29] I don't like the # of votes one because that can change a lot depending on the size of the community [17:02:31] let's propose that [17:02:47] If you propose it, I'll support it [17:03:06] WD seems policy-less (by a majority)... [17:03:16] I'm also assuming our adminship is permanent if we get elected.... [17:03:23] I'm already running, so I don't want to be setting the rules while I'm in the pot, so to speak [17:03:56] for_, that's not a really bad thin [17:04:01] thing* [17:04:12] We have policies for all important stuff, ie the content. [17:04:25] We use a lot of common sense for everything else :-) [17:05:48] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42093 [17:06:20] common sense is good [17:06:28] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Bureaucrats#Bureaucrat_support_requirements_and_other_policy [17:11:02] k [17:19:31] Sven_Manguard: btw, minor correction - bureaucrats /can/ make new 'crats [17:19:42] oh? [17:19:53] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights [17:20:45] oh [17:23:30] Denny_WMDE1: Who is Abraham Taherivand? [17:23:49] Sven_Manguard: wikidata project manager [17:23:59] wmde employee [17:24:08] He's the only staffer with advanced permissions that hasn't made any edits or created a userpage [17:24:22] i'll tell him to create a user page [17:24:33] Does he feel unwelcome? I can get him a pie, although shipping might be an issue [17:25:20] :D [17:25:49] he's not a wikipedian [17:26:27] How tragic. [17:27:00] Tell him to make a few edits. Feel the rush, the thrill [17:27:17] the... erm... ? [17:27:39] "Join us, do not be afraid. Join us, do not be afraid. Join us, do not be afraid." [17:27:46] :D [17:27:50] Right then. [17:30:44] Anyone want to take a look at http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Thieol%27s_bot [17:31:03] By my reckoning it needs about two more support votes before it's ready [17:31:12] not enough support yet [17:31:18] and since I'm going to close it, I can't be one of those support votes [17:31:32] or, whatever [17:31:58] someone else can close it [17:36:08] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Work on cleaning up EntityDiff [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39229 [17:36:48] I'm heading over to Wikipedia to work on Portals [17:36:51] be back later [17:39:47] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed issues with isAssoc methods, added docs, and added a lot of tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42097 [17:44:40] guys [17:44:52] Hello [17:46:23] the bots will update all interwikis? [17:46:35] In some cases, yes. [17:46:47] When pages are moved and such they don't. [17:47:42] and I was doing manually :( [17:55:00] Ajraddatz, then the wikidata not need workforce no robotics at the moment? [17:58:10] Sven_Manguard: I think it would be fit for you to close http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Inclusion_of_non-article_pages [17:58:27] as I don't think you've commented [17:58:31] true [17:58:33] i am off to go home. will be back in 30-60min [17:59:15] but I can't do that right now. I'm knee deep in portal, and considering how ugly it might get if anyone who cares notices what I did, I want to get the portal running as quickly as possible [17:59:26] leave me a talk page message, I'll look tonight [18:00:39] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Refactor tests after splitting of of patching code from diff" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42098 [18:07:21] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(bug 43304) Mechanism for supporting different Snak types in the user interface" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42100 [18:12:38] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Work on cleaning up EntityDiff" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39229 [19:17:36] Sven_Manguard, I think your solution on WT:B is a bit complex for the situation [19:17:38] and redundant [19:17:55] maybe [19:18:05] Why put people through two votes - one of which should be more scrutenous than the other anyways. [19:18:08] but I don't want people to say that the crats came in under a cloud [19:18:41] I think that keeping the crat requests open for a couple of weeks, and until after the admin and bureaucrat discussions are done would suffice myself. [19:25:48] Responded there [19:25:59] I'm open to your idea if you can round up the support for it [19:26:19] k [19:26:31] rschen7754 is already on board. [19:26:36] ? [19:26:44] oh, you're in the channel [19:26:48] yup :P [19:27:06] hey, thanks, by the way, for bringing over the road crew from Wikipedia [19:27:11] np [19:27:23] I hope they decide to lay new turf here and stay around for the (I need another road pun) [19:27:38] and stay around for the ride* [19:27:52] lay new tracks* here [19:27:56] 9.9 [19:28:04] some people are a bit skeptical right now for phase 1 [19:28:10] turf would work only if you all are into lawn mower racing, which is apparently a real thing [19:28:26] but for phase 2 it could be useful [19:28:39] Yeah, definately. Phase 1 is for the bots at this point. [19:28:55] we're 1/7th of the way to where we need to be on that [19:29:10] Anyways, back to Portal work. Cheers [19:29:13] We've done pretty well with phase I considering how boring it is. [19:29:18] Almost 2m pages already. [19:29:40] yeah, we're hoping to get all our pages on there to get a legup on phase 2 :P [19:29:46] it's only 11,000 [19:30:22] I'd help but I need a bot. [19:30:40] Maybe benestar could use his to bring over your stuff? [19:30:56] benestar = bene* = one of the item creation bot ops [19:31:16] or Merlissimo, another bot op in the channel [19:32:01] Sven_Manguard: what task do you have? [19:32:25] rschen7754 wants all the US roads articles imported into Wikidata [19:32:36] is there a category? [19:32:41] we have a task force page [19:32:42] rschen7754? [19:33:03] the bot imports by Wikipedia categories, correct? [19:33:31] it can do it [19:33:38] and it gives a list of all items [19:33:46] rschen7754: is it this: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Roads_task_force/United_States ? [19:33:52] yeah [19:34:02] about half of them are done [19:34:18] and is there a category? [19:34:27] on enwp? [19:34:52] doesn't matter [19:35:10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Roads_in_the_United_States [19:35:46] that's the main category [19:35:51] i see [19:35:58] does it do descriptions? [19:36:16] if you have a rule how to create them [19:37:18] rschen7754: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Roads_in_the_United_States <- This was imported by my bot [19:37:47] for an article like "Maryland Route x" the description would be "highway in Maryland" [19:37:54] and so on for each state [19:38:03] that's easy [19:38:12] if it doesn't meet that, then we could have people come back in and do it manually [19:38:24] ok, that's the best [19:38:51] it would be quite good if someone would review the items anyway [19:39:03] but it shouldn't be necessary [19:39:04] ok [19:39:23] but please tell me if there is a bug as early as possible [19:39:29] ok cool [19:39:51] with which category/country should I start? [19:40:20] does it go recursively? [19:40:58] you mean with subcategories [19:41:06] if you want, yes [19:42:17] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:State_highways_in_the_United_States is probably the best [19:42:54] some of the states were done already [19:43:08] I see [19:45:30] It is to share with (1) only other f, 'master' existing tenant. [19:45:43] sorry wrong list [19:45:56] would it be helpful if i gave you a list of the categories that still need to be done? [19:46:06] yes [19:46:09] ok [19:50:02] okay, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rschen7754/Wikidata [19:50:24] 22 states, but we left the big ones like FL and TX to last :P [20:06:32] rschen7754: descriptions seem to be a bit heavy [20:06:45] I will add them later in a new run. ok? [20:06:55] okay, that's fine [20:06:56] thanks! [20:09:11] rschen7754: bot is running [20:09:16] :) [20:10:22] that'll save us a lot of time :) [20:34:07] rschen7754: hi [20:34:11] hi! [20:34:23] first category is there :) [20:34:28] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Roads_task_force/United_States/Georgia [20:34:30] thx! [20:34:38] items with a problem are marked bold [20:34:44] ok [20:34:58] it could be possible that they already exis [20:35:00] *t [20:35:08] and so they made an error [20:35:22] this ones should be controlled manually [20:35:32] okay, i'll take a look [20:42:41] a lot of them seem to be redirects [20:42:48] hm [20:42:55] i will have to sort them out [20:43:01] ok [20:43:50] FL and GA will probably be the worst [20:44:04] we will see ;) [20:44:12] all interstates / U.S. routes have a secret state highway designation as well [20:44:26] rschen7754: should redirects be listed anyway or should they be left out? [20:45:04] it should probably create the item if it doesn't exist already [20:45:20] hu? [20:45:33] i think items cannot be created with redirects [20:46:01] sorry, what i meant was that if the item it's being redirected to doesn't exist, it should be created [20:46:22] ok, i understand [20:46:35] but i hope the redirected item is in the category, too [20:46:42] otherwise it would be mess [20:46:56] it might not be :/ [20:47:05] rschen7754: so I will leaf them out? [20:47:10] *leave [20:47:15] that works [20:49:07] rschen7754: running again [20:49:13] ok [20:49:14] Arkansas... [20:49:16] :) [21:04:12] benestar: AR looks good [21:05:13] :) [21:13:53] rschen7754: just thinking about an awesome gadget [21:14:18] you would just have to add the lang and the sitelink and everything else would be created automatically [21:28:35] /j wikipedia-en [21:30:09] benestar: yeah [21:31:04] rschen7754: it is working on :) [21:31:18] Louisiana [21:31:23] ok [21:38:48] hey, would you consider gladatorial combat a "sport" [21:39:02] gladiatorial* [21:42:51] Benestar: do you still run the bot on your own computer or did you manage to get it wotking on Labs? [21:42:57] working8 [21:42:59] * [21:43:08] Wiki13: it runs on labs now :) [21:43:13] nice [21:43:23] you can just test it [21:43:39] it is as fast as hell now :P [21:43:43] Wiki13: if the bot is running 5am, it must be at labs :P [21:43:55] haha [21:44:32] benestar: it is faster creating items then before [21:44:33] xd [21:44:52] really? [21:44:55] :) [21:45:01] yup [21:45:14] almost 1 each seccond [21:45:16] sometimes 2 [21:45:36] nice [21:46:30] benestar: checked KY [21:46:32] can I get a list anywhere, of where no english label exist about French communes? [21:46:59] rschen7754: is it ok? [21:47:02] is that possible anyway benestar? [21:47:09] yeah, KY is fine [21:47:12] Wiki13: hmm [21:47:15] rschen7754: :) [21:47:17] only 2-3 redirs [21:47:24] hu? [21:47:54] KY was easy to check since there were only 2-3 redirs [21:49:59] rschen7754: i thought i have changed the code so that redires would not be reported... [21:50:19] benestar: it's not a problem :) [21:51:13] I am just wondering :/ [21:58:36] benestar: do you think that´s possible? [21:59:11] Wiki13: possible of course [21:59:24] I have to go. See you all later! [21:59:29] see you [21:59:37] i think i have said it already: is there a category? ;) [21:59:42] or a list? [22:00:23] there are mutiple categories for the french communes. [22:00:30] oh [22:00:35] why that? [22:00:50] different departments [22:00:51] ;) [22:00:51] or ist there a big category for all of them, too? [22:00:56] oh, sure [22:03:55] benestar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Communes_in_France_by_department [22:04:20] I already checked for missing descripstions and did some cats [22:12:26] Wiki13: tell me tomorrow again [22:12:34] I cannot do it today [22:12:34] ok [22:12:41] just too tired :o [22:12:42] i need to go now [22:12:46] so [22:12:48] good night [22:17:13] /join #wikivoyage [22:17:42] sorry :T [22:20:25] benestar: FL is good [22:20:39] :) [23:39:38] shouldn't bots have bot flag to edit? [23:39:59] ummm... [23:40:01] ValterVBot is editing without flag [23:40:29] and is seriously flooding rc [23:40:30] looking [23:40:32] ValterVBot has been approved this afternoon ! [23:40:41] but got no flag yet though [23:40:42] by sven... [23:40:59] ah ok.... [23:41:12] otherwise i wouldn't mention [23:41:22] my irc client filters bot edits [23:41:44] but now scrolls very rapidly [23:42:43] http://toolserver.org/~quentinv57/sulinfo/ValterVBot [23:42:45] says it has the flag [23:44:53] rschen7754: check rc [23:44:59] it obviously does not [23:45:22] hm [23:46:18] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:UserRights/ValterVBot also indicates it's a bot [23:46:37] puzzled [23:47:34] maybe ask in #wikimedia-stewards