[00:01:04] <Sven_Manguard>	 it counts as long as you do *significant* work on it in 2013
[00:01:20] <Sven_Manguard>	 sounds like it needs significant work
[00:01:36] <Sven_Manguard>	 otherwise it'd be done already, yes? :P
[00:15:34] <Sven_Manguard>	 Leinad: I just read your name as Leningrad and was really weirded out for a sec
[00:16:32] <guerillero>	 true sven
[00:16:40] <Leinad>	 Sven_Manguard: oh no! it's wrong interpretation, just read backwards ;)
[00:16:42] <guerillero>	 and big articles are't done over night
[00:17:35] <Sven_Manguard>	 Dani El? Da Niel? D. Aniel? I don't get it :D
[00:18:49] <Leinad>	 all letters, it's my name ;)
[00:19:07] <Sven_Manguard>	 I know, I got it as soon as you said it.
[02:53:43] <Guest83913>	 hi
[02:54:52] <wolfgang42>	 Hi Guest83913
[09:48:51] <Franco|Andro>	 there any admins around to fix an editinterface error?
[09:56:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Passing wikibase object to the entity selector widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42738
[10:05:53] <AnjaJ_WMDE>	 http://192.168.2.251:8080/job/wikibase-phpunit/118/console
[11:17:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(bug 43304) Mechanism for supporting different Snak types in the user interface" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42100
[11:37:31] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Denny Vrandecic; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42681
[11:37:33] <Nikerabbit>	 DanielK_WMDE: translate has good installation docs
[11:39:48] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42100
[11:46:58] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(bug 43304) Refactoring of Snakview variations registration" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42693
[11:47:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Fixed IE incompatible code in TemplatedWidget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42748
[11:48:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "This changeset causes conflict detection to stop working:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39229
[11:59:03] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42693
[12:00:23] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42748
[12:05:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 43304) Added snakview variation definition for handling of NoValueSnaks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42695
[12:10:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 43304) Added snakview variation definition for handling of SomeValueSnaks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42697
[12:18:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Passing entity store object to the entity selector widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42738
[12:26:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(bug 43304) Added snakview variation definition for handling of NoValueSnaks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42751
[12:28:18] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Daniel Werner; "Committed again as Iecad3f6a" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42695
[12:48:42] <Danny_B>	 is "wikidata" singular or plural?
[13:04:25] <aude>	 Danny_B: "data" is plural
[13:04:34] <aude>	 datum is singular
[13:04:39] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Nikerabbit: i don't really want to spend half a day setting it up just for this fix. Would be great if you could just give it a quick test. We will however include it on the test repo in the future, i just filed a ticket for that: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43733
[13:04:54] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Nikerabbit: if you don't want to test it, I will, but I'm not promising when.
[13:05:17] <Danny_B>	 aude: thus i assume the footer license sentence should be fixed then
[13:05:32] <aude>	 ?
[13:05:44] <Danny_B>	 it says wikidata is available
[13:05:51] <Danny_B>	 not are available
[13:06:10] <aude>	 sure
[13:06:52] * aude  assumes editing the footer is restricted to admins only

[13:07:01] * aude  not admin and staff doesn't need to edit it

[13:09:03] <Lydia_WMDE>	 aude: Danny_B huh?
[13:09:05] <Lydia_WMDE>	 it is one wikidata
[13:09:10] <Lydia_WMDE>	 even if data is plural
[13:09:15] <Lydia_WMDE>	 it is one website
[13:09:18] <Lydia_WMDE>	 just like one wikipedia
[13:09:24] <aude>	 sure
[13:09:28] <Lydia_WMDE>	 please don't change it
[13:09:32] <aude>	 heh
[13:09:47] <aude>	 but it says "structured data"
[13:09:57] <aude>	 all structured data ___ is available
[13:10:13] * aude  thinks all structured data ___ are available is more correct

[13:10:35] <Lydia_WMDE>	 is sounds better to me but...
[13:12:28] <Danny_B>	 just pointing out and leaving to native speakers. please consider the fact that non natives may become confused...
[13:16:08] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Denny_WMDE1: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43734
[13:17:05] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aude: would you say "the data are corrupt"?
[13:17:27] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE: yes you should
[13:17:31] <DanielK_WMDE>	 o_O
[13:17:34] <DanielK_WMDE>	 never heard that :)
[13:17:50] <aude>	 either is understood but "are" is grammatically correct
[13:20:56] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42751
[13:21:40] <Denny_WMDE1>	 there is a long discussion about data being is or are. grammar enthusiasts say it is "are", actual usage is "is". see eg http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/jul/16/data-plural-singular
[13:30:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 43304) Added snakview variation definition for handling of SomeValueSnaks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42697
[13:33:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 43304) Added snakview variation definition for handling of SomeValueSnaks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42697
[13:37:19] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42697
[13:38:29] <Denny_WMDE1>	 never mind the "is" or "are". think about other verbs: "The data make a difference" or "The data makes a difference" ?
[13:39:38] <Denny_WMDE1>	 "The data require us to act" just sounds wrong. Is it just me or would native speakers agree? 
[13:43:07] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Denny_WMDE1: i think the Guardian has it right. "data" is singular, unless you want to argue that "agenda" is plural.
[13:43:47] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Denny_WMDE1: anyway - did you look at the link i posted? do you think that's the right approach? or should we just drop the constraint, as we originally planned?
[13:45:02] <Denny_WMDE1>	 DanielK_WMDE:  i am less concerned about when and how of often we check for the constraint but more about error messages not being delivered to the user
[13:45:29] <Denny_WMDE1>	 i'd rather see that resolved first and then understand how it works
[13:45:46] <DanielK_WMDE>	 yes, there's a separate bug for that
[14:04:28] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/81
[14:04:58] <aude>	 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/31
[15:03:43] <Stryn>	 Why I can't translate #25 in any languages here: http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&taction=translate&group=page-Wikidata%3AGlossary&language=de&limit=100&task=view
[15:04:43] <Stryn>	 following error: http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Translations:Wikidata:Glossary/25/de&action=edit&loadgroup=page-Wikidata%3AGlossary&loadtask=view
[15:45:20] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 43304) Snak type selector for snakview widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42771
[16:20:08] <Moe_Epsilon>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Animated_Wikidata_logo.gif
[16:20:10] <Moe_Epsilon>	 ? :D
[16:22:59] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Moe_Epsilon: woah - that's psycho :D
[16:23:12] <Moe_Epsilon>	 ^_^
[16:23:43] <Moe_Epsilon>	 there's an animated logo for most other sister projects, thought we should have at least this one
[16:23:46] <Denny_WMDE>	 Moe_Epsilon: I'd try to keep one letter in one color instead of going through the columns
[16:23:59] <Denny_WMDE>	 but nice idea
[16:24:15] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Moe_Epsilon: if the others have it we obviously need it too ;-)
[16:24:38] <Moe_Epsilon>	 :)
[16:27:48] <Ajraddatz>	 Moe_Epsilon, that's pretty good :p
[16:28:15] <Moe_Epsilon>	 thanks :p
[16:28:59] <Vogone>	 de rien
[16:42:12] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42738
[16:51:24] <Moe_Epsilon>	 Lydia_WMDE: has the Wikidata logo actually been trademarked by the WikiMedia Foundation yet?
[16:51:29] <Moe_Epsilon>	 I was just asked
[16:51:44] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Moe_Epsilon: last i checked it was in progress
[16:52:02] <Moe_Epsilon>	 mmk :)
[16:53:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(bug 43304) Snak type selector for snakview widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42771
[16:59:03] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Passing entity stub object to entity selector widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42785
[17:00:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "seems fine, but could be a bit nicer (see comment)." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39605
[17:53:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(bug 43304) Snak type selector for snakview widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42771
[17:58:50] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42771
[19:36:04] <benestar>	 hey Wiki13 :)
[19:36:10] <Wiki13>	 hai
[19:36:39] <benestar>	 Do you know some more French Commune cats?
[19:49:30] <benestar>	 Wiki13: ?
[19:49:45] <Wiki13>	 ofcourse
[19:50:49] <Wiki13>	 Benestar: we could also follow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Communes_in_France_by_department 
[19:51:08] <Wiki13>	 just begin at the beginning ;)
[19:51:15] <Wiki13>	 I would say
[19:51:31] <benestar>	 ok, why not
[19:51:35] <Wiki13>	 some of the are done already...
[19:51:41] <Wiki13>	 but that are the big ones
[19:53:06] <Wiki13>	 benestar: can´t your bot do more than 1 cat per run?
[19:53:33] <Wiki13>	 then*
[19:53:37] <benestar>	 well, the problem is that I have to sort them manually
[19:53:47] <Wiki13>	 :S
[19:53:50] <benestar>	 as I told you, some subcats are about football players
[19:54:35] <Wiki13>	 oh yea... that kind of sucks...
[19:56:17] <benestar>	 Wiki13: I will import all subcats of this category, but only the first level
[19:56:25] <benestar>	 so no sub-sub-cats
[19:58:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Moar tests, for great justice!" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42801
[20:26:36] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Work on cleaning up EntityDiff" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39229
[20:29:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: John Erling Blad; "As far as I can verify this it seems to work as expected now." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39229
[20:31:05] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 benestar: I have written som code to add page_props, but something is wrong and the props does not register as they should
[20:31:30] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 With that itr should be easy to make special pages for finding all kinds of stub items
[20:31:52] <benestar>	 Jeblad_WMDE: cool :)
[20:32:36] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 it will register props for nositelinks, noclaims, nolabels, nodescriptions and isempty
[20:32:47] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 I'm not sure if noaliases makes sense
[20:32:54] <benestar>	 sounds good
[20:32:59] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 Perhaps I'll add them anyhow
[20:33:27] <benestar>	 maybe they are needed in the future
[20:33:46] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 yes, and then they are there
[20:34:13] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 Often someone have an idea for something nobody has imagined was posssible
[20:35:11] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 The easiest way to make a special page is to do something like allpages
[20:35:43] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 but it is perhaps better for the users to loop over titles from wikipedia
[20:36:24] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 But I'm off..
[20:37:48] <benestar>	 :(
[20:37:53] <benestar>	 no chance to answer him
[21:04:13] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42801
[21:04:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Version 0.4 release" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42852
[21:05:00] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42852
[21:47:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Work on cleaning up EntityDiff" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39229
[21:48:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Yep, looks like you fixed it. Thanks a lot John! :)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39229
[21:48:31] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39229
[21:54:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added docs" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42858
[22:01:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Uncomment and fix testAplly in EntityDiff and ItemDiff tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42861
[22:03:21] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42858
[22:05:36] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42861
[22:12:27] <benestar>	 Danny_B: what is happening there?
[22:12:40] <Danny_B>	 ?
[22:12:57] <benestar>	 RFD
[22:13:17] <Danny_B>	 there was some batch there to be done, why?
[22:13:46] <benestar>	 Danny_B: about 20 requests
[22:14:00] <benestar>	 more
[22:14:11] <benestar>	 just look into the history
[22:14:28] <benestar>	 it is because of Sk!d's bot
[22:14:40] <benestar>	 Sk1d: here?
[22:22:55] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39020
[22:28:54] <Riley>	 Merlissimo: Why isn't MerlBot flagged? (I thought the RFP discussion was successful) 
[22:29:48] <Merlissimo>	 Riley: because i said that i won't use the flag
[22:29:58] <Riley>	 Why not?
[22:30:10] <Riley>	 ..
[22:30:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "minor cleanup" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42868
[22:30:31] <Merlissimo>	 because people want to see changes on their watchlist
[22:30:56] <Riley>	 Ah okay, thanks for explaining.
[22:31:06] <Merlissimo>	 if they don't want to have it on their watchlist thay can simply unwatch the page
[22:31:15] <Riley>	 Right :)
[22:31:43] <Riley>	 Keep up the good work
[22:53:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "((bug 43304) Moved snak type selector for snakview widget into its own widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42874
[22:55:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added docs that accidentally got removed" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42875
[22:55:42] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42875
[23:10:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "fix doc" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42876
[23:10:36] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42876
[23:14:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "ValueParsers do not need to parse to a DataValue" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42879
[23:14:55] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42879
[23:45:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Get rid of ValueParsers\Result interface" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42885