[00:00:00] I would think this is confusing nomenclature [00:00:07] but it's a bit late [00:00:27] True [00:00:53] as for the election outcome Guerillero will need four more supports so he still has a chance [00:01:03] the others probably don't [00:01:31] hm [00:02:03] * Jasper_Deng then invites Vogone to vote on them [00:02:31] * Riley gets grumpy because he had four tabs open ready to save [00:02:40] * Jasper_Deng apologizes to Riley [00:03:07] :) [00:03:10] I have to support Guerillero? [00:03:16] no [00:03:19] do as you wish [00:03:45] how much time do I have? [00:03:54] 24 hours [00:03:59] k [00:04:03] 23:56 hours * [00:04:21] so the closure alert was wrong? [00:04:26] yes.. [00:04:37] * Riley stumbles off grumpy and goes to improve the bot process [00:05:05] I wish Ajraddatz used the more common convention [00:05:48] Ajraddatz isn't the king :P ... we could change everything [00:05:56] or desysop him [00:06:03] he's up for confirmation along w/ me in 3rd circuit [00:06:10] lol [00:07:32] * Riley uses the time change as a way to oppose him [00:07:39] jk, then I couldn't close the discussion. [00:08:31] Riley: then he'd oppose you :P [00:08:44] :( [00:08:51] Probably will anyways [00:10:36] Due to my involvement in the 'crat-related fiasco I might chose to not seek reconfirmation [00:10:51] Much will depend on how Sven Manguard and Stryn do [00:11:19] Jasper_Deng: you won't know unless you try [00:18:45] My main fear is that MarcuAurelio will !vote oppose and everyone will follow suite. He has opposed every rights request of any kind I've had (where he !voted). [00:19:40] why do you always type a "!" before "vote"? [00:21:18] I'm used to enwiki [00:21:24] and mw.org [00:21:32] where we don't assess these things based on a raw vote count alone [00:21:42] en:WP:NOTAVOTE [00:43:44] are we counting netral votes as counter votes? or ignore themß [00:44:03] neutral votes aren't counted [00:44:23] so 36 supports, 12 neutrals, and 12 opposes is 75% support [00:46:28] k [00:47:26] so Guerillero would need 6 more pro votes [00:47:34] 5 more [00:47:37] he has 5 opposes [00:47:41] and 11 supports [00:47:48] actually 4 more [00:48:17] ah I see 75% pro I thought 80% [00:49:40] btw imo 23-27 jan means 27 at 24.00 the vote will end (just like the it is now) (maybe a German interpretation) [00:50:09] on enwiki it usually means 27 :01 [00:50:24] though it's too much of a hassle to change it now [00:52:56] hm I think it is better to end at evening so the next voting will start on 28th 00:00 (no one day gap) [00:56:35] Sk1d: unfortunately it'll be a hassle to change it [00:56:44] so we'll be busy tommorow [00:56:48] (23 hours from now) [00:59:09] 4 more years :P [00:59:16] Jasper_Deng: I dont want to change it, I find it better how it is now [00:59:20] Vogone: ?? [00:59:27] Sk1d: there's no 1-day gap [00:59:33] or is there? [00:59:38] actually there isn't [03:41:18] Jasper_Deng: Do you know if Sumone10154 uses IRC? [03:41:27] I don't think he does [03:41:33] Riley: yes he does [03:41:39] but not on a lot [03:41:43] not atm though [03:41:53] you can also check the wikivoyage channels [03:42:38] rschen7754: Thanks [03:42:43] np [12:14:58] benestar|away: ping+ [12:15:02] meh [12:17:54] hoo: benestar|away antwortet idR nicht (IRCCloud) [12:18:34] Vogone: Hab das Gadget entfernt, hat jetzt Zeit [12:19:22] hoo: welsches Gadget? (gibt viele) [12:19:52] That one: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-SitelinkCheck.js [12:20:15] I've already took a look at most of the gadgets and they seem to be ok... would be great if someone experienced could review them all... [12:55:23] hoo: what is insecure with the gadget? [12:56:10] Sk1d: XSS [12:56:18] you can inject whatver html you want [12:58:20] which gadget? [12:58:38] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-SitelinkCheck.js [13:06:28] :O [13:06:45] hoo: what is the problem there (which html) [13:07:05] benestar: titleParam [13:07:25] I think html decode would fix that, right? [13:08:15] hoo: by the way, do you like the script, or are there any other bugs? [13:08:27] I would suggest to not construct html with strings but rather user $( '' ).attr({ type: 'text', id: 'balh' }) [13:08:34] I haven't tested it [13:08:45] I just looked at it and saw those problems [13:09:08] I will also create a css document [13:09:19] I found them in less than 30 seconds, they're easy to spot for someone who did this before [13:10:41] :P [13:11:08] As told, it would be great if someone found the time to review all gadgets on wikidata.org [13:11:17] or even better all of WMF :P [13:12:34] hoo: you can trust me ;) [13:13:02] benestar: On what? :D [13:13:17] creating gadgets without any bad code [13:13:42] if there is bad code, I fix it, bug the sitelinktihng is still kind of beta [13:14:12] Well, don't activate stuff you know has issues even as beta then [13:14:22] it shouldn't be used with admin accounts [13:14:38] * privileged accounts [13:14:49] the problem is that I added those features later [14:17:54] PHP Fatal error: Class 'Wikibase\TemplateRegistry' not found in /srv/extensions/Wikibase/lib/WikibaseLib.php on line 242 [14:18:00] :/ [14:46:06] hoo: fixed now [14:47:21] Sher unschön [14:47:25] müsste aber funktionieren [14:47:29] :( [14:47:43] hoo: wie soll ich das sonst machen? [14:47:53] das formular ist recht verschachtelt [14:48:13] Wenn mein Firefox reagiert antworte ich [14:48:15] grrr [14:48:43] Firebug -.- [14:48:53] killall firefox [14:52:22] benestar: Ich mach es mal schnell [14:52:47] k [14:53:56] hi [14:54:07] hello [14:54:36] i am new here. [14:54:52] bullpop: what do you want to know? [14:55:06] plz help me understand what goes on here? [14:55:30] what is this channel meant for? [14:55:45] http://www.wikidata.org [14:55:56] "general discussion about the wikidata project" [14:56:30] thanks. [15:01:19] benestar: Du weist das Sprachen != Sites, ja? [15:01:31] ja :/ [15:01:45] Hab das Ding noch nicht verwendet, kam mir nur grad komisch vor, die Benennung [15:01:51] aber solange wir nur wps haben, geht das [15:02:32] :D [15:03:29] hoo: bei Special:SetSiteLInk wurde ich schon bemängelt deswegen [15:04:02] Wenn sowas in die Extension selbst einfliest ist es noch um einiges schlimmer [15:04:13] eben [15:04:26] da muss man jezt die site id angeben :P [15:10:37] benestar: Kennst du jshint? [15:10:52] kann sein, fällt mir grad nciht ein [15:11:06] jshint.com [15:11:13] solltest du verwenden [15:11:47] hoo: ne, kannt ich nicht [15:11:50] cool, danke :) [15:12:21] Das zeigt noch einige andere Dinge am Code auf, die teilweise unschön sind aber auch in speziellen Fällen Fehler produzieren können [15:12:25] sowas wie == null [15:12:40] mannoman [15:12:51] in c# ist das alles viel einfacher :/ [15:13:02] wegen typsicherheit [15:15:03] benestar: Hab mal Hand angelegt (ungetestet) [15:15:12] :) [15:15:53] Guck dir doch mal mediaWiki.Api und vllt. wikibase.RepoApi an [15:16:00] man muss das Rad nciht immer neu erfinden [15:16:07] selbiges gilt für i18n [15:16:37] gurte idee [15:16:41] -r [15:16:41] 04Error: Command “r” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written. [15:16:50] * benestar kills AsimovBot [15:17:14] lol [15:18:41] New patchset: Hoo man; "Fix WikibaseLib.php in case not loaded in the default environment" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46031 [15:34:16] hoo: https://de.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User:Bene*/move.js [15:34:54] the interface does not work very good :/ [15:40:36] benestar: What is that even supposed to do? [15:40:56] I want to add a move link to the other links like remove or cancel [15:41:09] and remove it when cancle is pressed [15:41:20] unfortunaly the links have no ids :/ [15:43:28] Did you test the new version of the gadget yet? I didn'T even syntax check it [15:44:04] hoo: it works fine [15:44:14] but my firebug is aslödjflöksdjf [15:44:48] Firebug always is like that [15:44:59] It's supposed to be slow for better debugging or so... I guess [15:53:18] Reedy: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Lavallen#Bot_Format - Lavallen claims they use format=xml... can you do some more log digging pls? [16:08:11] yurik: Based on the logs, they weren't psasing it [16:08:23] And they weren't passing a really long query string either [16:09:17] as the truncation notation, it wasn't being truncated [16:13:02] Reedy: so do you think they overlooked some api call in their code? or could this be someone else. Upon further graphite check, the format=xmlfm is used consistently 50 times a minute [16:13:28] if you could send me the api log for the day, i could do my own digging [16:13:46] also it would be great to get some understanding of how api is used in general [16:14:03] (i could definitly use that perspective in planning) [16:15:12] Reedy: actually a few days of api might be better. Could you send it to yuriastrakhan at gmail? [16:15:25] or PM me with a link [16:54:36] hi [16:56:08] hi [16:57:50] hey lbenedix and Wiki13 :) [17:28:36] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45763 [17:47:03] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45762 [18:05:25] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45553 [18:07:44] Wiki13: hi [18:08:40] hi benestar [18:09:02] Wiki13: interested in a new script? [18:09:08] ehm... [18:09:11] sure [18:09:15] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Bene*/preview.js [18:09:26] could be moved to a gadget [18:12:31] nice tool benestar [18:12:43] :) [18:17:52] Wiki13: move it to a gadget? [18:18:20] ehm... sure [18:18:35] I can do it if you want benestar :P [18:18:52] I can do it, too ;) [18:19:06] just wanted to hear another opinion [18:19:09] just do it yourself then :) [18:20:48] Wiki13: do you have a better idea where to place the "preview" link? [18:20:56] I do not like the current place [18:21:00] nope [18:24:18] lbenedix: what are you doing? [18:26:36] what do you mean? [18:27:00] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Lbenedix/common.js ;) [18:27:33] just looking [18:27:59] I just mean if you found a bug [18:29:59] what is the purpose for that script? [18:30:46] lbenedix: don't you see it? [18:32:17] i see what it does [18:32:47] you can directly see what the article is about without clicking on the link and thus leaving the item [18:33:16] i thougt the description is to get what the article is about [18:33:39] well, sometimes there is no description [18:33:47] and the description is often quite short [18:33:53] it is only a helper [18:34:17] works fine for articles with few links [18:34:33] lbenedix: and with many links? [18:35:01] works too... my browser was too small... the preview was under the table [18:35:43] :/ [18:35:49] that shouldn't happen [18:36:12] lbenedix: what size has your browser? [18:36:28] maybe a popup with the preview and textboxes for label and description would be nice [18:36:50] lbenedix: Gadget LabelLister ?! [18:37:18] so you go to an item withoud label/description, scroll to a language you speak, click preview, enter label and description [18:37:48] yes, that is LabelLister, isn't it? [18:37:56] dont know [18:38:03] try it out ;) [18:38:30] how do i add a gadget-thingy to my common.js? [18:39:03] lbenedix: yo don't [18:39:06] u* [18:39:20] go to http:/ww.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Preferences [18:39:43] and then to gadgets, then you can enable all the tools [18:40:08] ok [18:40:18] in the labellister is no preview [18:40:30] lbenedix: that's right [18:40:39] perhaps combine them? [18:41:03] the editing in labellister is not very usable [18:41:36] I don't think so [18:42:16] compared with the editing in wikibase... [18:43:10] i can enter code: foo [18:44:13] and never get a warning [18:47:20] it would be nice if you could click into the table to edit without that dialogue [18:47:29] removing alias by entering it into a textarea... [18:48:23] the page don't reload after editing in labellister [19:57:22] New patchset: Bene; "(bug 43870) new Special:SetSiteLink" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45574 [21:31:15] and now we begin the countdown to the end of round 1 of reconfirmations for real [22:30:47] 90 minutes until the closures begin [22:31:35] yup [22:40:28] "wb_terms table does not exist, skipping new field patch." ... [22:51:12] 69 minutes to go [22:56:58] * Jasper_Deng pokes Lydia_WMDE [22:57:12] Jasper_Deng: jo [22:57:15] wasup? [22:57:34] Lydia_WMDE: see the requests for deletions page where we have two deletion requests on hold pending developer comment [22:57:45] Jasper_Deng: got a link? [22:57:57] Lydia_WMDE: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions#Q2461754 [22:58:01] thx [22:58:03] looking [22:59:24] Jasper_Deng: thx for poking - feel free to close and delete - i'll bring it up again in the team [22:59:37] Lydia_WMDE: comment on-wiki first so everyone knows [23:00:15] ok [23:02:05] Jasper_Deng: done :) [23:02:15] * Jasper_Deng proceeds to delete, thx [23:27:58] Er Jasper_Deng; Carol.Christiansen's vote decided what happends to Guerillero.. http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Administrators/Confirm_2013/1#Guerillero_.28talk_.E2.80.A2_contribs_.E2.80.A2_log_actions.29 [23:28:51] Riley: it doesn't look like they will reply anytime soon, so we'll close his as failed until she clarifies it [23:29:52] Executive decision: Actually, if no one votes further, I am going to place it on hold (pending closure) until that person replies. [23:30:31] The user seems to support and I don't want to mark it as failed and be wrong. [23:30:40] Nor do I want to mark it as pass and be wrong. [23:31:11] let's just hope that someone else votes in the next half hour [23:31:54] Riley: I suggest closing it as unsuccessful b/c that's basically the same as "no consensus" - we don't actually place anything at SRP for failed reconfirmations [23:32:49] looks like Eric92 is voting [23:32:58] so that might resolve this [23:35:39] He only supported one person -.- [23:37:04] ugh I was hoping he could tip the balance for Guerillero [23:37:26] Is there any rules on voting? [23:37:51] Riley: registered users only [23:37:57] no ballot-stuffing ofc [23:38:09] only vote within specified time periods [23:38:12] basically that's it [23:39:06] Hm. Well if you guys don't, I am going to ask one of my wiki friends to vote (Not canvassing, will ask them to look into the persons info and give an ''honest'' opinion) [23:39:09] well any wiki person [23:39:28] fabriceferrer: Have you voted on the administrator confirmations? [23:40:12] no Riley, but I do not really contribute anymore :) [23:40:25] at least until the next phase... [23:41:02] Doesn't matter! :D I am sure you must have had some experiences with some of the admins listed at http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Administrators/Confirm_2013/1 [23:41:14] (Hopefully good experiences) [23:42:12] Unsysop them all, the Lord will recognise His own [23:42:52] favriceferrer: well, shall we tell you why we need another vote? [23:43:25] yeah ? [23:43:54] * Jasper_Deng asks Riley for an OK [23:44:20] Go ahead [23:45:09] Jasper_Deng: OK [23:45:34] fabriceferrer: one of the confirmations, Guerillero's is currently at 14/19, one vote shy of passing [23:45:49] but there's a vote there that did not give a support/oppose/neutral [23:45:59] to avoid controversy over that vote, cast your ballot [23:46:36] mmh [23:47:27] wow someone got 47 supports [23:47:30] What about a neutral vote ? :p [23:47:59] fabriceferrer: that wouldn't dispel controversy, but feel free [23:48:21] rschen7754, Riley: btw I call dibs on moving the circuits at the main page (http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Administrators/Confirm_2013) [23:48:24] fabriceferrer: We just got a new vote on it, you don't have to vote any more [23:48:27] ok [23:48:28] Jasper_Deng: No! [23:48:29] No! [23:48:35] Riley: you get all the actual closures [23:48:39] I already have it all ready to save :( [23:48:40] so it's only fair [23:48:46] thx addshore [23:48:50] well, now that i'm involved, I will :) [23:49:16] Jasper_Deng: You have already voted on some, we cannot allow biased people to handle this. [23:49:19] ;) [23:49:22] rschen7754, no probs :) [23:49:29] Riley: that's why I leave the actual requests to you [23:49:50] however there shouldn't be issues with moving them on the main requests page [23:50:05] Fine -.- Have it look something like http://puu.sh/1TFXQ though :) [23:50:30] Riley: "permanent"-->"indefinite" [23:51:33] Jasper_Deng: Okay, here is the code http://pastebin.com/QN8Lfhrh [23:51:41] (since you are doing it) [23:51:43] Riley: actually you get it [23:51:48] b/c you've typed it up already [23:51:51] Sure [23:55:06] Ok, I have Wiki13, Tpt, Sannita, Merlissimo, and Romaine as confirmed [23:55:15] also Guerillero [23:55:51] Ajraddatz: not to be nit picky but 23:59 Jan 27 is confusing as opposed to 00:01 Jan 28 [23:56:04] how [23:56:10] it's 00:00 that is confusing [23:56:21] techman224: What do you mean as confirmed? [23:56:24] how can you possibly be confused by that? O_o [23:56:37] Ajraddatz: b/c when you view circuits on the main page, you don't specify the times [23:56:41] 0:00 is indeed confusing for many people [23:56:43] so yesterday a false alarm was raised [23:56:44] Riley, confirmed adminship [23:56:46] Also, Guerillero shouldn't be confirmed, eithe 71/72% depending on if one vote is a support. [23:56:58] Ajraddatz: he has 75% [23:57:02] unless he now has 6 opposes [23:57:06] he has 6 opposes [23:57:06] neutrals don't count [23:57:10] Jasper_Deng: He got opposed again [23:57:12] oh.... [23:57:15] uggh [23:57:16] I'll leave Guerillero [23:57:27] It is now 71.42% [23:57:30] any complaints if i update the sitenotice to say round 2? [23:57:36] *DING* Voting closes in three minutes. [23:57:44] I was going to close them section by section, specifying which requirements have been met/not met for each candidate. [23:57:51] I will post the successful confirmation on SRP [23:57:53] Ajraddatz: then do that [23:57:59] Riley will update the table [23:58:04] please wait until the time has past by completely [23:58:06] Guerillo is one vote short of reconfirmation, and that's the only one that's in the margins [23:58:10] Any objections? Or are other people obsessed with votes going to wham it all instead of me? (I'm fine with either option here, if you guys want to fight over it go ahead.) [23:58:11] what should we do? [23:58:15] Sven_Manguard: not now [23:58:35] i'd say close that one pending confirmation of what the vote is [23:58:39] Jasper_Deng: My question is do we leave it open past 2 mins from now or not/ [23:58:57] just wait 2 minutes [23:59:05] 1 minute [23:59:07] Sven_Manguard: just wait one minute [23:59:14] (sorry) [23:59:31] He's so close to passing though :S [23:59:53] Sven_Manguard: 3 votes shy :|