[00:04:28] <Hazard-SJ>	 I actually got my bot to edit an item :P
[00:05:03] <Hazard-SJ>	 Now to update the code and see if it can edit when it should (according to the code).
[00:11:08] <Hazard-SJ>	 :D
[00:11:42] <Hazard-SJ>	 And now to try to find an item that I can use to complete the code
[00:11:55] <duh>	 Hazard-SJ: use the wikidata sandbox?
[00:12:03] <Hazard-SJ>	 After which I pop in at RFD :P
[00:12:41] <Hazard-SJ>	 duh: Not sure if that's entirely possible :/
[00:12:51] <duh>	 What are you trying to do?
[00:13:31] <Hazard-SJ>	 duh: See the last three edits on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Hazard-Bot
[00:14:07] <duh>	 er
[00:14:13] <duh>	 not sure whats wrong with those tests?
[00:14:28] <Hazard-SJ>	 duh: Nothing's wrong with them
[00:14:42] <duh>	 so why do you need to test again?
[00:15:09] <Hazard-SJ>	 duh: I just need to make sure my bot pops in at RFD if necessary
[00:15:18] <duh>	 oh
[00:15:32] <duh>	 use the sandbox for it then
[00:15:37] <duh>	 add a link to a page that doesnt eixst
[00:16:49] <Hazard-SJ>	 duh: The DataPage returns the repository used for the page
[00:17:00] <duh>	 um
[00:17:03] <Hazard-SJ>	 Unless I can override that >:)
[00:17:38] * Hazard-SJ  checks if it's set from the family file

[00:18:02] <duh>	 oh wait
[00:18:04] <duh>	 i'm talking about
[00:18:11] <duh>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4115189
[00:18:14] <duh>	 not using the other repo
[00:18:18] <duh>	 and yes, it is set from the family file
[00:19:00] <Hazard-SJ>	 duh: I didn't know about that :P
[00:19:10] <duh>	 now you do :)
[00:19:34] <Hazard-SJ>	 Maybe we should link to it from the sandbox header?
[00:20:25] <duh>	 did it last night https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Please_leave_this_line_alone_%28sandbox_heading%29&diff=prev&oldid=5959071
[00:21:12] <Hazard-SJ>	 :O
[00:21:18] <duh>	 no idea how to do the translation thing or what not
[00:25:56] <Hazard-SJ>	 duh: What translation? With LangSwitch or the extension?
[00:26:05] <duh>	 LangSwitch
[00:26:10] <duh>	 I didnt add it to the de field
[00:26:22] <Hazard-SJ>	 Google Translate :P
[00:26:48] <duh>	 :P
[00:29:13] <Hazard-SJ>	 duh: Write me an antivandalism-bot please :P
[00:29:22] <duh>	 oh god
[00:29:27] <duh>	 i've been working on one of those for a while now
[00:29:38] <duh>	 but its horrible
[00:29:45] <duh>	 and totally enwiki specific
[00:30:24] <Hazard-SJ>	 duh: :O
[00:30:59] <Hazard-SJ>	 duh: Change it from being enwiki specific to being English specific :P
[00:31:09] <duh>	 nah
[00:31:37] <duh>	 what kind of vandalism does wd have anyways besides the spam?
[00:32:00] <rschen7754>	 i've seen malicious aliases being added
[00:32:09] <rschen7754>	 and then a few times i saw an IP removing interwikis at random
[00:32:25] <duh>	 the first can be stopped with a blacklist
[00:32:30] <duh>	 the second really cant
[00:32:43] <duh>	 well
[00:32:48] <duh>	 maybe
[00:33:08] * duh  runs to catch the bus

[00:33:24] <Hazard-SJ>	 duh: Why not? Enwiki already has an AV bot
[00:33:27] <Hazard-SJ>	 OK, lr
[00:33:33] <Hazard-SJ>	 * l8r
[00:33:38] <Hazard-SJ>	 (later)
[00:39:50] <addshore>	 Hazard-SJ, remember, reverting vandalism on EN is a race, even if you are a bot ;p
[00:42:17] <Hazard-SJ>	 addshore: That's why it'd be better to just make it language specific so you can run it on other English projects as well :P
[00:42:42] * Reedy  beats addshore

[00:43:28] * Hazard-SJ  wonders what to do with Reedy

[00:43:54] * Hazard-SJ  rewards Reedy and takes over all of addshore's bot tasks :P

[00:50:46] <duh>	 Hazard-SJ: it was more of a "hey it would be fun to write an AV bot" so i decided to do it
[00:52:09] <Hazard-SJ>	 duh: Even I know it wouldn't be "fun"
[00:52:43] <duh>	 well i find it fun :P
[00:57:28] <Hazard-SJ>	 duh: When was the last time you worked on it?
[00:57:52] <duh>	 2 months ago :(
[00:59:19] <duh>	 i spotchecked one of the earlier versions of it, and it was like 50% FP rate
[01:06:31] <addshore>	 Hazard-SJ, no, my bot tasks :P feel free to help me do my rewrite though ;p
[01:07:24] <Hazard-SJ>	 duh: pagegenerators.NamespaceFilterPageGenerator's second parameter is a list of the namespace numbers to filter, right? 
[01:07:34] * Hazard-SJ  doesn't want to check

[01:07:37] <duh>	 idk
[01:07:44] <duh>	 i use rewrite remember?
[01:08:04] <Hazard-SJ>	 addshore: I already "have" one of the tasks ;)
[01:08:20] <Hazard-SJ>	 And I guess that isn't in rewrite -_-
[01:08:25] * Hazard-SJ  checks

[01:08:39] <duh>	 idk
[01:08:43] <duh>	 i just dont memorize these things
[01:08:46] <addshore>	 Hazard-SJ, pah, thats not a task, thats what my bot does while its taking a dump :P
[01:08:54] <duh>	 burnnnnn.
[01:11:06] <addshore>	 well, currently my dot isnt doing anything, so burn me :/
[01:11:19] <addshore>	 and my bot isnt either
[01:11:39] <Hazard-SJ>	 addshore: You stopped your sandbot task on en?
[01:11:50] <addshore>	 yep
[01:11:56] <addshore>	 I was going to get in touch with you about it actually
[01:12:17] <addshore>	 you need to Expand! :P
[01:15:36] <Hazard-SJ>	 duh: I'm considering checking only deleted pages in mainspace, projectspace, and catspace by default
[01:15:44] <duh>	 er
[01:15:49] <duh>	 that doesnt seem like the best way
[01:16:08] <Hazard-SJ>	 (only the deleted pages in them
[01:16:10] <Hazard-SJ>	 )
[01:16:14] <duh>	 er wait
[01:16:21] <duh>	 are you checking the deletion logs?
[01:16:25] <Hazard-SJ>	 It reads from the deletion log then filters the namespaces
[01:16:28] <Hazard-SJ>	 yes
[01:16:43] <duh>	 does it do any check to make sure the page still exists?
[01:16:46] <Hazard-SJ>	 addshore: Yes, I do :P
[01:16:47] <duh>	 or doesn
[01:16:50] <duh>	 t
[01:17:35] <Hazard-SJ>	 duh: It does
[01:17:48] <Hazard-SJ>	 Because sometimes they're just revision deletions
[01:17:51] <duh>	 what about when a page was moved without leaving a redirect behind?
[01:18:14] <Hazard-SJ>	 Doesn't look for that
[01:18:53] <Hazard-SJ>	 addshore: Anything else I can "steal"?
[01:19:08] <addshore>	 the rest of the sandboxes? ;p
[01:21:16] <Hazard-SJ>	 duh: So you suggest that after I verify that the page doesn't exist, I check the page's move log to see if it was just moved? :P
[01:21:25] <duh>	 maybe
[01:21:26] <Hazard-SJ>	 addshore: Where? En?
[01:21:31] <addshore>	 yep :)
[01:21:35] <duh>	 im not sure this is the most effective way
[01:21:40] <duh>	 efficient*
[01:22:13] <Hazard-SJ>	 duh: So what would you consider the most efficient way?
[01:22:41] <duh>	 a database query that looked for links to non-existent pages
[01:23:33] <addshore>	 Hazard-SJ, ill trya nd list them all for you some time :)
[01:23:38] <addshore>	 night all
[01:24:31] <Hazard-SJ>	 addshore: You mean all that are on enwp? I believe my approval allows me to do so
[01:24:46] <addshore>	 find them then ;p
[01:25:20] <duh>	 http://gizmodo.com/5977989/internet-explorer-vs-murder-rate-will-be-your-favorite-chart-today
[01:25:23] <Hazard-SJ>	 And I was doing ... ~most of them, but there were the bot conflicts and I just disabled rather than telling the bot to ignore if yours made the last edit
[01:25:54] <Hazard-SJ>	 Then again, if mine made the last edit, yours would've reverted it, addshore 
[01:26:38] <Hazard-SJ>	 duh: So we need to make the use of IE illegal :P
[01:26:39] <addshore>	 hah :P mine restored the header, yours restored something else ;p
[01:26:54] <Hazard-SJ>	 addshore: What do you mean? :/
[01:27:13] <addshore>	 you restore a different header, meaning my ot doesnt think there is a header ;p
[01:28:01] <Hazard-SJ>	 addshore: Mine restores the page :P
[01:28:07] <addshore>	 see lines 23 > 41 https://github.com/addshore/addbot-php/blob/master/rc.checks.php (it has the old IDs with the headers on for each page
[01:28:22] <Hazard-SJ>	 Plus Avic has his bot running on some pages too
[01:29:35] <Hazard-SJ>	 addshore: :O
[01:29:51] <addshore>	 you are all missing lots of pages >.<
[01:30:00] <addshore>	 id come around and slap you all if i could reach you :P
[01:30:58] <Hazard-SJ>	 I have a bot that checks fot the header on the main sandbox every minute 
[01:32:08] <Hazard-SJ>	 addshore: I actually have others that I'm doing, but disabled due to the conflicts. I'll rewrite them to have a check against your bot and AvicBot2
[01:32:35] <Hazard-SJ>	 Don't think I'll need to check against Sigma's bot, but I'll still do it
[01:32:45] <addshore>	 just make then use the same headers  ;p
[01:33:02] <Hazard-SJ>	 addshore: But your headers were inaccurate IIRC
[01:33:13] <addshore>	 :O
[01:33:15] <addshore>	 how so?
[01:33:48] <Hazard-SJ>	 That's why we should just sore the text on another page
[01:33:52] * Hazard-SJ  checks

[01:34:06] <addshore>	 Hazard-SJ, whats why I use the oldids and get the content from there ;p
[01:37:16] <Hazard-SJ>	 addshore: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk%3AX1&diff=533789048&oldid=533789036 :/
[01:37:35] <Hazard-SJ>	 IIRC, my bot used to check every hour
[01:38:04] <addshore>	 wont load O_o
[01:38:17] <Reedy>	 just wait a little bit and try agian
[01:38:26] <addshore>	 :P
[01:38:30] <Hazard-SJ>	 brb
[01:48:26] <Hazard-Away>	 back
[01:49:51] <Riley|WikiBreak>	 Is it just me or is the site notice in German?
[01:51:02] <Riley|WikiBreak>	 Why is the Lang switched?.. 
[01:51:47] <Riley|WikiBreak>	 http://puu.sh/1Z5Ik
[01:52:16] <duh>	 its in english for me
[01:52:37] <duh>	 also, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5296 is funny imo
[01:53:17] <hoo>	 Someone's using {{LangSwitch in there, which isn't going to work -.-
[01:54:40] <hoo>	 Riley|WikiBreak: Should be fixed
[01:58:35] <Riley|WikiBreak>	 hoo: Thanks!
[02:32:15] <Hazard-SJ>	 The only way I could find to get the log entries doesn't have that info
[02:35:42] <Jasper_Deng>	 Sounds like this circuit is going to reconfirm 6/10
[02:39:59] <duh>	 Hazard-SJ: which info?
[02:40:30] <Hazard-SJ>	 if it was move without leaving a redirect
[02:40:45] <duh>	 you can't get that with the api?
[02:40:48] <duh>	 pretty sure you can
[02:42:01] <Reedy>	 JeroenDeDauw: Your extension got a mention: http://us6.campaign-archive1.com/?u=a55a944d1fa277174ec5f10a2&id=a1d67ae25e&e=a0c6925fdb
[02:49:01] <Hazard-SJ>	 duh: How? :/
[02:49:09] <duh>	 no idea :P
[02:51:48] * Hazard-SJ  needs to check something for verification

[05:34:35] <Romaine>	 mmm, why can't I add as continent AFrica to Gabon?
[05:39:30] <Romaine>	 mmm, because West Africa is also named Africa I couldnt add the statement continent=Africa to Gabon...
[06:04:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Use XHTML breaks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48082
[06:10:00] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48082
[06:20:49] <Moe_Epsilon>	 I tried to add "town in Boulder County, Colorado" as a description and got "An error occurred while trying to perform save and because of this, your changes could not be completed."
[06:20:55] <Moe_Epsilon>	 any idea?
[06:22:03] <Moe_Epsilon>	 seemingly no reason why this isn't going through
[06:22:34] <Romaine>	 I had also such strange denials
[06:23:41] <Moe_Epsilon>	 Romaine: I was going to ask on your talk page, but I can ask here I suppose. Why did you add https://en.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1010528 that description?
[06:23:47] <Moe_Epsilon>	 that is not about the country in Europe
[06:23:48] <Moe_Epsilon>	 :/
[06:24:12] <Romaine>	 I made a mistake
[06:24:49] <Romaine>	 and why can't I empty it? :S
[06:25:21] <Romaine>	 what an annoying software grrrr
[06:26:15] <Romaine>	 Moe_Epsilon: My mother language is Dutch, "Nederland" is the way how Dutch people describe their country
[06:26:15] <Moe_Epsilon>	 yes, it is quite frustrating
[06:26:27] <Moe_Epsilon>	 Romaine: that is okay, I understand :)
[06:26:50] <Moe_Epsilon>	 I know mistakes like that are bound to happen
[06:26:58] <Moe_Epsilon>	 especially with such similar names
[06:27:01] <Romaine>	 I had so much trouble to add the proporty Africa to the country Gabon.... so much annoing
[06:27:12] <Romaine>	 yes, there are too much similare items
[06:27:27] <Romaine>	 adding the Q didn't work either
[06:27:37] <Moe_Epsilon>	 hmm
[06:30:24] <Romaine>	 proporties are 4 days old, I can't believe nobody has complained about it
[06:31:22] <Moe_Epsilon>	 i hope that's sarcasm, i've seen a lot of complaints :P
[06:32:51] <Romaine>	 yes it was
[06:32:59] <Romaine>	 where have you seen most complaints?
[06:33:55] <Moe_Epsilon>	 I mostly look at https://en.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat on a daily basis, it seems that is all the talk
[06:34:59] <Romaine>	 mmm, so much messages in only one week? :S
[06:35:48] <Moe_Epsilon>	 yeah s:
[06:36:50] <Romaine>	 and why I can't add a label to a item?
[06:37:25] <Romaine>	 the onliest denial I get is "An error occurred while trying to perform save and because of this, your changes could not be completed."
[06:38:45] <Romaine>	 example: http://en.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1000007
[06:38:52] <Romaine>	 I can't add an English label....
[06:39:45] <Romaine>	 why?
[06:41:43] <Moe_Epsilon>	 I'm not sure :/
[06:44:41] <Romaine>	 I keep having this on various pages :(
[06:45:13] <Moe_Epsilon>	 maybe someone changed an abuse filter or something 
[06:45:14] <Moe_Epsilon>	 :s
[06:48:44] <Romaine>	 no, that wasn't the problem
[06:48:46] <Romaine>	 I checked
[06:49:05] <Moe_Epsilon>	 hmm
[06:49:49] <Romaine>	 I give it up, going to do something elsewhere pfff
[06:55:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Use plural for 'wikibase-comment-multi' and numParams()" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48091
[09:02:57] <Merlissimo>	 aude / Lydia_WMDE: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44750 is closed but adding minwiki is still not possible. So what to do?
[09:03:14] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Merlissimo: hey :) please reopen bug then
[09:04:40] <Merlissimo>	 Lydia_WMDE: according to reedy minwiki is added to site table, so another bug?
[09:05:06] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Merlissimo: hmm i will ask when in the office in 45 min
[09:06:10] <Merlissimo>	 my bot checks http://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=paraminfo&modules=wbsetsitelink
[09:06:28] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok
[09:06:30] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thx
[09:16:49] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 44743) Optional custom list item for suggester widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48101
[09:42:31] <aude>	 Merlissimo: shall look into it today
[09:42:56] <aude>	 could be we need to try kicking the memcached again
[09:43:04] <Merlissimo>	 thx aude
[09:43:11] <aude>	 e.g. it's still serving cached sites data, perhaps
[09:43:32] * aude  doing stuff for monday's deployment first, though

[09:49:30] <busy_researching>	 wooho enwp!
[09:51:51] <duh>	 its live?
[09:53:59] <Lydia_WMDE>	 duh: monday :)
[09:54:04] <Lydia_WMDE>	 so not yet
[09:54:11] <duh>	 so close :P
[09:54:23] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hehe
[10:00:20] <busy_researching>	 but it's not too early to get excited!
[10:07:08] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 44713) entityselector: Using messaging system if available" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48110
[10:08:14] <Lydia_WMDE>	 busy_researching: haha - is it ever?
[10:08:25] <busy_researching>	 lol
[10:58:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41163, bug Bug 41165) Changed Autocomment class Summary" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47716
[11:08:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Anja Jentzsch; "Results in timeouts and failures for me." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47597
[11:13:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 44095) first version of claim diff visualization in DiffView" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47852
[11:14:48] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48091
[11:21:20] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 uhm, banana...
[11:22:49] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47869
[11:38:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 44095) first version of claim diff visualization in DiffView" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47852
[11:39:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: John Erling Blad; "This Time-type has the common mixup between the _value_ and the _error_ on that value. I think we sh..." [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47866
[11:39:53] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47866
[12:06:06] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47721
[12:17:49] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47745
[12:25:10] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47867
[12:49:22] <PinkAmpersand>	 hey i got us listed on http://www.sporcle.com/games/g/wikimedia_foundation :D
[12:52:23] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 44743) Optional custom list item for suggester widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48101
[13:02:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 43994) Add a specialpage for pages that is not connected to items" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47794
[13:09:31] <Lydia_WMDE>	 PinkAmpersand: lol
[13:09:33] <Lydia_WMDE>	 what the hell is that?
[13:09:34] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :D
[13:09:47] <PinkAmpersand>	 lol you've never heard of Sporcle? :P
[13:09:51] <Lydia_WMDE>	 no
[13:10:27] <PinkAmpersand>	 haha it's this quiz website. idk. very nerdy stuff. similar crowd to wp
[13:10:56] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :D
[13:10:57] <PinkAmpersand>	 they also have http://www.sporcle.com/games/Chase/Most_Viewed_Country_Wikipedia_Pages and http://www.sporcle.com/games/Ellix/wikipedia_edit_wars
[13:11:54] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hehe
[13:26:45] <sumanah>	 hey Lydia_WMDE - about Wikidata & how to use/contribute to it -- is there already a screencast?
[13:27:43] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sumanah: there are a few on the interwebs but mostly focusing on phase 1
[13:27:49] <Lydia_WMDE>	 don't think there is anything for phase 2 yet
[13:28:02] <Lydia_WMDE>	 and since it is changing so fast...
[13:28:05] <sumanah>	 okay
[13:28:07] <sumanah>	 makes sense
[13:37:41] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JD|cloud: *poke* when you're around :) (we never seem to manage to catch each other...)
[13:42:58] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Add descriptive head and body messages to each of the datatypes" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47817
[13:44:38] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw is printing out all his pets and putting them up on walls
[13:44:50] <sumanah>	 How many pets does he have?
[13:44:55] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 I wonder if I should print out some of my animals..
[13:45:04] * Jeblad_WMDE  scatches his head

[13:45:13] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 ...hm, could it be life up there...
[13:45:19] <aude>	 hah
[13:48:24] <reimann>	 is it planned that iterative paser calls are possible? somethin like  {{#property:is in|{{#property:is in|New York}}}}
[13:52:27] <JeroenDeDauw>	 AnjaJ_WMDE: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7313450/entropy/lolcat.jpg
[13:52:50] <JeroenDeDauw>	 sumanah: #over9000
[13:56:52] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Minor, merging this" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47808
[13:56:53] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47808
[13:59:45] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 AnjaJ_WMDE: That was one (1) code line! ;p
[14:00:19] <AnjaJ_WMDE>	 :p alright bruce force
[14:00:35] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 muahahahaaa
[14:15:09] <JeroenDeDauw>	 lolwat
[14:23:04] <Lydia_WMDE>	 reimann: unfortunately the two people who could answer this are not here atm - can you post it to the mailing list or on the inclusion syntax page?
[14:31:33] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 raimann I think it must be encoded a limit somehow.. I don't think it will be blocked as a recursive template.
[14:32:02] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 It is rather costly anyhow, so it should be limited somehow like the ifexist parser function
[14:44:44] <reimann>	 thank you. dropped my question at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata/Notes/Inclusion_syntax_v0.3#Iterative_parser_calls
[14:50:10] <Lydia_WMDE>	 reimann: i'll poke someone into answering you but it might take a bit
[14:50:47] <reimann>	 no problem! thanks a lot
[15:29:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Step towards splitting the settings of lib, repo and client into dedicated interfaces" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48024
[15:31:23] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Step towards splitting the settings of lib, repo and client into dedicated interfaces" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48024
[15:32:17] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Step towards splitting the settings of lib, repo and client into dedicated interfaces" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48024
[15:42:16] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48024
[15:44:32] <Merlissimo>	 how can i find the item related to a non article page?
[15:45:00] <Merlissimo>	 i expected that http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ItemByTitle/dewiki/Wikipedia:Hauptseite would return http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5296
[15:48:12] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 yes?
[15:48:32] <hoo>	 Merlissimo: Looks like a bug :/
[15:52:37] <Merlissimo>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44799
[15:54:49] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 found the bug..
[15:54:52] * Jeblad_WMDE  thinks

[15:55:16] <Merlissimo>	 probably conflict with interwikimap?
[15:55:42] <Merlissimo>	 but then it would search for enwiki:Hauptseite i think
[16:03:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Improvements to serializer code to facilitate unserialization" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44975
[16:03:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "New setclaim API module that allows creating or updating an entire claim given JSON serialization [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44858
[16:04:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "New setclaim API module that allows creating or updating an entire claim given JSON serialization [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44858
[16:17:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 44799) Switching from use of getText() to getFullText()" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48131
[16:18:23] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 Merlissimo: There you have jour fix
[16:22:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "New setclaim API module that allows creating or updating an entire claim given JSON serialization [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44858
[17:04:44] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44975
[17:17:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Parse intro messages" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47577
[17:22:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Parse intro messages" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47577
[17:32:08] <PinkAmpersand>	 Jeblad_WMDE: has anyone pointed out yet that if you mouse over one of the "edit" or "add source" buttons on diff mode, you're erroneously informed that the page is protected?
[17:32:27] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 Don't think so?
[17:32:42] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 The edit tab?
[17:32:52] <PinkAmpersand>	 there is no edit tab!
[17:32:56] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 Or the edits inside the content
[17:33:04] <PinkAmpersand>	 inside the content
[17:33:23] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 They should not work..
[17:33:29] <PinkAmpersand>	 yeah, they don't
[17:33:37] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 They should be removed..
[17:33:38] <PinkAmpersand>	 but my point is that the message it gives you is wrong
[17:33:56] <PinkAmpersand>	 it says "This page is protected. Editing is not allowed."
[17:34:10] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 yes, but the underlaying code yous tells that edit is not allowed
[17:34:26] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 i think its updated on the test repo
[17:34:31] <PinkAmpersand>	 oh ok
[17:34:52] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 You can go there and check, if not dig up the bug and add whatever is missing
[17:35:04] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 At least I think there is a bug about it
[17:39:20] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Parse intro messages" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47577
[17:46:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Add some linebreaks to the messages" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48141
[18:13:09] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 Mys kull is to hard, its not flexible enough..
[18:18:17] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "New setclaim API module that allows creating or updating an entire claim given JSON serialization [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44858
[19:12:34] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: John Erling Blad; ":)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44858
[19:28:04] <benestar>	 hey guys
[19:28:20] <benestar>	 log time I wasn't here :/
[19:28:24] <benestar>	 *long
[19:36:22] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 hey!
[19:41:59] <benestar>	 Jeblad_WMDE: hi :)
[19:42:29] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 getting ready for more fancy code? =)
[19:42:53] <benestar>	 you mean for the special:setsitelink page?
[19:43:02] <benestar>	 I really had no time the last weeks
[21:22:47] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hey benestar!
[21:22:56] <benestar>	 hi Lydia_WMDE :)
[21:23:03] <benestar>	 how are you?
[21:23:21] <Lydia_WMDE>	 pretty good
[21:23:23] <Lydia_WMDE>	 tired though
[21:23:27] <Lydia_WMDE>	 you?
[21:23:33] <benestar>	 me too ;)
[21:23:45] <benestar>	 seems there happened much the last weeks
[21:23:55] <benestar>	 we are now phase 2, right?
[21:24:03] <Lydia_WMDE>	 jep
[21:24:55] <benestar>	 are there already some help pages for properties?
[21:25:02] <benestar>	 or statements?
[21:26:10] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i don't think so
[21:26:16] <benestar>	 :/
[21:26:18] <Lydia_WMDE>	 jep
[21:28:03] <Moe_Epsilon>	 is there some existing problem with adding labels and descriptions that i don't know about? http://en.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1000007
[21:28:14] <Moe_Epsilon>	 i am unable to add an English label to this data page
[21:29:11] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 There is
[21:29:32] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal
[21:30:10] <benestar>	 works with labellister
[21:30:45] <benestar>	 http://en.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1000007&diff=6076131&oldid=6024679
[21:31:42] <Moe_Epsilon>	 well it doesn't work for me by simply typing it in
[21:32:49] <benestar>	 for me it does not work this way, too :(
[21:33:13] <benestar>	 hu
[21:33:17] <benestar>	 what did this ip???
[21:33:39] <Moe_Epsilon>	 o.o i don't know
[21:33:48] <Moe_Epsilon>	 i got an error just typing it in, so it was not me
[21:33:57] <benestar>	 very strange...
[21:34:40] <Moe_Epsilon>	 IP is German
[21:35:52] <aude>	 the ip must be Jeblad_WMDE 
[21:35:54] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 It is found a possible bug in the diff-patch solution
[21:36:04] <benestar>	 was it you, Jeblad_WMDE ?
[21:36:06] <aude>	 i can't save a description
[21:36:17] <aude>	 An error occurred while trying to perform save and because of this, your changes could not be completed.
[21:36:20] <Moe_Epsilon>	 yes, it is happening on a lot of different pages
[21:36:21] <Moe_Epsilon>	 :/
[21:36:23] <aude>	 very helpful :/
[21:36:30] <benestar>	 me too
[21:37:18] <Moe_Epsilon>	 couldn't change the description on https://en.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1010528 last night either
[21:37:25] <Moe_Epsilon>	 (in English)
[21:38:06] <aude>	 hmmm
[21:38:27] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 Yes I edited but got a failure
[21:38:48] <Moe_Epsilon>	 "An error occurred while trying to perform save and because of this, your changes could not be completed."
[21:40:47] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 One of the problems with the current API is that you get a kind of "one error message to serve them all" and that makes the debugging close to wild guesses
[21:41:41] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 But Jeroen found something that could be a problem and before he says whether this problem is real I'm not going to use much time on it
[21:42:31] <Jeblad_WMDE>	 It is a kind of weird bug and if a reload doesn't fix it, then make a note about it as a problematic item and move on