[00:03:55] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41882) Added checks for permissions and blocked status" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47723 [01:22:06] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Rename CreateEntity and CreateItem to NewEntity and NewItem" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32921 [01:28:53] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Rename CreateEntity and CreateItem to NewEntity and NewItem" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32921 [03:53:05] List of pages linked to this item(6 {{PLURAL:6|entry|entries}}) [03:53:07] o_O [04:05:37] Moe_Epsilon: its a mediawiki core bug [04:05:49] also, i need peoples help in solving https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Legobot/Dupes [04:05:59] these are all ones that need to be done manually now [04:06:15] ooh okie [04:08:09] i was working on one set and halfway through merging i realized there was a third copy >.< [04:08:13] that was annoying. [04:11:41] duh: I've been working on those :P [04:12:01] yay :D [04:12:01] duh: Sure it's core? [04:12:11] The bug? Yes [04:12:17] I initially reported it like 2 weeks ago [04:12:22] This is part of a code regression [04:12:25] Which was fixed [04:12:30] But maybe it didnt get backported? [04:13:30] woops, I wrote the wrong Q number in the deletion log |: now it looks weird v.v [04:16:42] Moe_Epsilon: Undelete and redelete then? [04:17:13] Well...you'd probably have to delete the duplicate first [04:17:25] then undelete after you redelete the other [04:17:53] |: okay, I guess I could do that [04:18:50] Moe_Epsilon: You seem reluctant ;) [04:20:18] {{done}} [04:20:19] lol [04:20:49] having to press extra buttons always makes me relutant :p [04:21:06] * duh presses Moe_Epsilon's extra buttons [04:21:11] (to undo something silly of my own |:) [04:21:16] * Moe_Epsilon beeps [04:24:46] * Hazard-SJ wonders if Moe_Epsilon is an unapproved bot :P [04:26:35] uh.. uh.. I mean [04:26:37] * Moe_Epsilon derps [04:27:39] :D [04:51:48] New patchset: Siebrand; "Rename CreateEntity and CreateItem to NewEntity and NewItem" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32921 [04:53:47] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 9:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32921 [05:00:27] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 9: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32921 [05:01:32] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 7: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47817 [05:06:40] duh: Take a look at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Legobot/Dupes :P [05:39:14] :D [05:41:05] though [05:41:12] there are more dupes out there [05:46:24] * Moe_Epsilon sadface [06:14:59] * duh slightly nudges Pink|away  [06:33:00] Moe_Epsilon: have a moment? [06:33:17] or any other admin... [06:33:37] maybe :P what's up [06:33:44] can you edit https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Legobot/properties.js [06:33:47] and all the [06:34:02] well just stick a # in front of all the templates except for the first one [06:34:14] im too lazy to log into the bots account right now [06:34:27] first one is {{User:Legobot/properties.js/row|en|Category:Women physicists|P21|Q43445|Legoktm|create=1}} [06:34:30] right? [06:34:32] yeah [06:35:12] {{done}} [06:35:18] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Patch Set 7: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47817 [06:35:21] thanks [06:35:23] :) [06:35:44] and it didnt fuck up https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Legobot/properties.js/Nice_looking wow [06:36:15] o: [06:37:04] working on the auto-property adder I assume? [06:37:05] :p [06:37:11] yup [06:37:17] i'm going to start a trial run [06:37:31] except now i realize i never wrote the logging function [06:39:12] are you good with tables and templates Moe_Epsilon? [06:40:22] duh: I'd say I'm fairly decent with them :p nothing spectacular [06:40:32] do you want to try https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:PinkAmpersand#Template_request ? [06:41:57] that can be done, I think :) [06:42:15] ty :D [06:42:41] might take me a while while i get it all sorted in my head xD [06:44:08] no problem, i have to write the code for it too :P [06:45:34] duh, is there somewhere you want me to put in particular. I was getting ready to start working on it, and didn't know where to place it xD [06:45:50] You can stick it in Legobot's userpace somewhere [06:45:55] userspace* [06:46:02] okay, can do [06:50:40] duh: the contents of the tables will just be text strings, right? So testing with "Test 1", "test 2", etc. should be fine to what it will actually look like? [06:51:06] one will be a link to a page on a wikipedia project, other will be a plain string [06:51:24] okay [06:51:49] I'm assuming what language will have to be specified? [06:52:09] I'll have the bot format the link [06:52:16] Since pywiki can do that automatically [06:52:26] Unless [06:52:35] how would that affect sorting? [06:53:33] it wouldn't affect sorting as far as I know, I guess your bot can identify which language Wikipedia you are talking about, instead of the template? [06:54:26] yeah [06:56:50] care if the language is visable, or does that matter? It's going to be linked, but you have the option [06:56:50] :P [06:57:59] I would prefer if it is visible [06:58:16] So the link would show up like [[:en:Page]] [06:58:50] okay, that works :P [07:09:16] getting close to having something ready for you to look at [07:09:20] @ duh [07:09:26] :D [07:12:06] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Legobot/Table @ duh [07:12:08] good start? [07:12:32] i like! [07:12:43] i dont think the images are necessary though [07:12:48] just a '''Done''' is good enough [07:13:05] okay :P [07:13:47] duh: {{done}}.. er done.. [07:13:51] :P [07:13:55] yeah i like that better [07:14:14] :D [07:14:14] wait [07:14:14] this is weird [07:14:17] collapse it [07:14:21] and then uncollapse it [07:14:32] oh, hmm o_O [07:14:44] http://cl.ly/image/0V2Y3a3y2x0e [07:14:50] the color wrapped around the text [07:15:08] i looked at irc then looked back and it unwrapped [07:15:26] i think it's table formatting i chose [07:15:45] that is the only one I know of that is collapsable and sortable [07:15:55] meh [07:15:57] not a big problem [07:16:28] a third column "done" or "not done" sortable would fix that and then you wouldn't need color :P but it's your table [07:17:28] * duh wants the color :P [07:17:47] ok xD [07:35:42] New patchset: Siebrand; "(bug 41163, bug 41165) Renamed Autocomment class to Summary" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47716 [07:35:59] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 11:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47716 [07:36:11] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 11: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47716 [07:55:18] duh: I am getting close to being done with creating an example to show you [07:55:26] :) [08:01:57] duh: with prefix User:Legobot/Table [08:01:58] {{/top}} [08:01:59] {{/row|wikilink=en:Test|done=yes|Something}} [08:01:59] {{/row|wikilink=de:Test|done=no|Something}} [08:01:59] {{/bottom}} [08:02:02] done [08:02:12] :DDD [08:02:16] is /row substable? [08:02:22] >: [08:02:25] good question [08:03:03] hm [08:03:21] ffs lol [08:03:27] stick a {{subst:#switch [08:03:28] ? [08:03:29] :P [08:03:43] lol [08:03:45] you spelled [08:03:47] subst wrong [08:03:50] |: [08:03:50] LOL [08:04:39] answer is yes, but it doesn't look real neat to edit because it has switch functions and all that displayed [08:04:57] [02:03:26 AM] stick a {{subst:#switch [08:05:21] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User:Legobot/Table&action=edit [08:05:25] fully subst'd [08:05:34] not the header or bottom [08:05:35] but yeah [08:06:22] i think header/bottom shouldnt be substed [08:06:24] duh: the code to adding a row is just {{/row|wikilink=de:Test|done=no/yes|Whatever text you wanted in the second column}} [08:06:25] :P [08:06:46] i'm just afraid for runs of 1000+ hitting the template limit [08:07:01] true [08:07:11] well then {{subst:/row|wikilink=de:Test|done=no/yes|Whatever text you wanted in the second column}} [08:07:11] :D [08:07:15] :D [08:08:45] hm [08:09:35] hmm? [08:09:48] o_O [08:10:06] * duh is fixing [08:10:38] did you edit the row? [08:10:39] lol [08:11:03] yup [08:11:04] fixed it [08:11:19] there we go :P [08:11:56] * Moe_Epsilon just added multiple rows, one unsubsted to look at [08:12:16] hm [08:12:29] now that it works…any chance we can use a lighter red? [08:12:30] * Moe_Epsilon derps a lot [08:12:30] :P [08:12:37] uh, sure I guess [08:12:37] XD [08:13:06] oops, my code has a spare |- [08:13:07] >: [08:13:27] like https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pathoschild/Scripts/SynchCrosswiki#JeanBono [08:13:57] er [08:13:58] actually [08:14:00] the next one down [08:18:15] hmmm [08:18:19] maybe steal his green too? [08:18:20] :P [08:18:24] :< [08:18:25] ok [08:20:13] :DDD [08:20:14] done [08:20:23] also, you might find https://toolserver.org/~legoktm/dupe_destroyers.txt interesting [08:20:54] all that time and I only got 4th [08:20:54] XD [08:21:10] ahh well [08:22:03] don't need the bottom, all it is, is |} [08:22:32] ok [08:23:38] actually you could display the rows normally if there was no |}, as long as there was nothing below the table on the page [08:23:38] :) [08:24:21] There probably will be, so I wont take that chance. [08:24:47] okay :p [08:24:54] but, is that good? [08:25:34] yes :D [08:25:52] mmk :p [08:27:08] nearly done with the bot [08:27:51] hmm, an hour and a half, I should have said I wasn't good with tables :P [08:28:34] shouldn't* [08:28:37] joke fail [08:29:51] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 44677) Entity selector widget: "more" link" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48426 [08:30:06] hahaha [08:30:15] you can rub it in Pink|away's face :P [08:30:57] I put a {{done}} on his talk page, I'm trying [08:30:57] :P [08:33:57] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "The Query functionality is experimental, so moving it to expiremental config" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48799 [08:38:24] Change abandoned: Raimond Spekking; "No time to fiddle with rebase. Will export this night as usual" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48555 [08:38:56] Change abandoned: Raimond Spekking; "No time to fiddle with rebase. Will export this night as usual" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48727 [08:47:36] phew nearly done [08:47:42] * Moe_Epsilon gives Jasper_Deng_busy a cup of tea [08:48:52] duh: cool :) so what exactly is going in the second column? [08:49:07] "Success!" or "Error: reason" [08:49:50] hmm, I could change the row template for that [08:49:51] i'm not sure what to use as a header when archiving [08:49:52] :P [08:50:06] nooos i already have it coded! [08:50:13] :( [08:50:15] ok [08:51:07] |style="background: #{{{{{|safesubst:}}}#switch:{{{done|}}} |yes=CFC |no=FCC }};"| '''{{{{{|safesubst:}}}#switch:{{{done|}}} |yes=Success! |no=Error: }}''' {{{1}}} [08:51:12] what could have been... [08:53:11] then you wouldn't have had to add as much to the good ones: {{subst:/row|wikilink=de:Test|done=yes}} [08:53:12] ;p [08:53:33] oh gosh, inline styles :-/ [08:54:30] it's for a bot to generate rows on a table [08:55:16] oh, you mean the background color? [09:08:44] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 1: -Code-Review" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45336 [09:08:44] ok [09:08:46] starting now [09:08:50] here goes nothing. :P [09:09:10] :o [09:10:33] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 2: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45336 [09:10:46] oh shit [09:10:47] i forgot [09:10:51] &bot doesnt work yet [09:11:07] and i ran it under the wrong account. [09:11:17] o-o [09:11:30] * Moe_Epsilon blocks duh for being unapproved [09:11:48] aw fuck [09:11:52] i ran it logged out too [09:11:59] this is like the fourth time its happened [09:12:08] o____o ahh shat [09:13:38] pm'd [09:18:47] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 4: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45574 [09:41:38] sdflksjdf [09:41:42] i want to punch pywikibot [09:41:49] this works on my laptop but not the ts [09:42:37] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Patch Set 1: Verified-1" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48799 [09:43:53] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 44665) start/stopEditing events for claimview widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47842 [09:46:06] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48799 [09:46:34] Moe_Epsilon: :/ https://en.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4384168 [09:50:38] duh: what happened there? [09:50:58] i'm not entirely sure... [09:51:19] i cant remove it though [09:51:52] duh: i want to rewrite it too :) [09:52:08] :P [09:52:29] i got annoyed at it, so i just started my own branch for wikidata and added the methods i needed with direct API calls [09:52:29] what's up with the plural in that link [09:52:38] code regression in core [09:52:40] LOL [09:53:24] and she is triple - female! [09:53:35] i cant remove them though. [09:53:38] with multiple sources [09:53:48] i did file the bug on it though [09:53:54] that's a triple negative, two and she would have been a man, but a third made her a woman again [09:53:55] :P [09:53:57] I fixed it [09:54:07] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44882 [09:54:17] darn it, would have been better with 3 [09:54:27] is the {{PLURAL}} part of the bug too? [09:54:34] yes [09:54:43] the bug was in mw.msg [09:54:50] gotcha [09:55:04] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44459 [09:55:31] * yurik points wikibug.wikimedia.org to wikidata [09:55:52] or at least i would if i had DNS access [09:56:06] :( [09:56:12] or should it be wikibuggy :) [09:56:30] the plural thing is a core issue and i think there is a patch (not deployed yet) to fix it [09:56:36] Moe_Epsilon: can you run through the first few of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Legobot/properties.js/Archive/2013/02/13 and see if you can fix them? [09:56:49] aude: is there a reason that patch hasnt been backported? [09:56:50] if it's something that can be backported in core, then perhaps we can do that today [09:56:56] ok [09:56:56] it might be a new patch [09:57:01] * aude goes to find it [09:57:28] duh: what is it, is there more triple genders? [09:57:34] yes [09:57:35] * aude suprised to see the bug appear on wikidata, though :o [09:57:38] oh >: ok [09:57:41] surprised [09:57:43] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7186 [09:58:08] i'm trying to debug this weird bot error [09:58:08] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/48601/ is the fix [09:58:44] * aude tries it on my test wiki and then can submit it as a backport [09:58:52] which then Reedy or someone would have to deploy [09:59:22] what's wrong with that one? [09:59:27] I can do [09:59:34] Will be early afternoon though [09:59:46] I'm about to go AFK to drive, and then I've got a meeting at the other end [10:00:03] Reedy: that's fine [10:00:17] we can live with this issue for a while longer, though it's ugly :o [10:00:30] will there be a TOC on all pages? Statements list could be long [10:01:00] yurik: i think not, but if folks think it's needed then [10:01:11] it could be suggested and make a bug ticket for it [10:01:19] don't know for sure - looking at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7186 - kinda long [10:01:24] sure [10:01:38] and this is only the beginning - might need to have sections [10:01:41] we just have to think how to do it in a nice way :) [10:02:29] aude: i filed it the other day :P [10:02:33] plus all the values (imagine a list of GEO coordinates where she has lived) [10:02:45] aude / yurik: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44876 [10:02:56] duh: thanks [10:03:09] duh: i hate being unoriginal :( [10:03:18] thx :) [10:04:09] duh: you think the triple gender could be caused by female already being specified once? [10:04:22] yes i think so [10:04:26] i thought my bot checked for it [10:04:28] but apparently not [10:05:35] sigh [10:05:47] todays featured article on enwp didnt have a wikidata item :( [10:06:22] commented - the edit link should navigate to the langlinks section directly, and I would think this should be a showstopper for en? [10:06:34] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "The Query functionality is experimental, so moving it to expiremental config" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48799 [10:07:12] yurik: good idea [10:07:49] not sure it's critical enough to backport a change for that, though [10:07:54] it can wait 2 weeks [10:08:00] want to create a separate bug for this? [10:08:07] yeah, that's true [10:08:22] if you want, that would help make sure we don't forget [10:08:29] although i can probably do it today [10:13:05] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44940 [10:13:14] aude: ^^ [10:13:33] thanks [10:15:13] np. Also, looking for support votes for my +2 core -- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership#Yurik_for_Core_.2B2 [10:15:28] (who can resist my blatant self-promotion?) [10:18:06] yurik: eww no camelcase! [10:18:12] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Patch Set 8: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47852 [10:18:13] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47852 [10:18:14] (i fixed it for you) :P [10:19:42] duh: hehe, it should have been wiki_data [10:19:49] hahaha [10:20:35] are there plans to make statements a bit less spacy? [10:20:41] Moe_Epsilon / etc: is this documentation clear? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Legobot/properties.js/Documentation [10:20:54] maybe even like the langlinks table [10:21:28] duh: "the project of from" ? [10:21:46] errrrr [10:21:47] :P [10:22:04] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Patch Set 2: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48799 [10:22:07] fixed [10:22:27] duh: "from where you want to pull the pages from" ? :-P [10:22:37] ahhh [10:22:38] its late [10:22:49] its only 5:22am here [10:22:52] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48799 [10:23:49] 4:22am here :P [10:24:52] chicago? [10:25:43] 3 hours southwest ish [10:25:55] Urbana, IL [10:26:05] 3 hours walking??? [10:26:11] driving :P [10:26:26] I go to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q457281 [10:27:00] figured [10:27:40] do the "also known as" have any enforcements as far as uniquness ? [10:28:14] not sure [10:28:18] theres a guideline somewhere [10:28:30] no worries, just asking [10:28:42] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Aliases [10:29:36] Property "is a" -> "woman" [10:29:38] hmm, doesn't say anything about it [10:29:51] that kind of defeats the gender property [10:29:53] >: [10:30:04] eh [10:30:21] [[Q7103]] [10:30:38] Moe_Epsilon: "is a" -> could be anything - is a physisist, also works? [10:31:14] yurik: yes you can do that [10:31:23] I don't see why not [10:31:29] but for woman, we have a gender property [10:31:50] so its kinda defits the purpose of properties -- too generic? [10:31:56] don't know enough about it to talk really [10:32:12] a property should be very specific IMO [10:32:31] i think theres a discussion regarding that on the talk page of that property [10:35:04] duh: just so you know, if you want your {{Rfd group}}s to look extra pretty, you can set "reason" to a non-plural version, and comment to what you have been using. i.e. |reason=Empty item detected by Legobot|comment=Empty items detected by bot [10:35:41] ah [10:35:44] awesome [10:36:51] yeah after a while I got sick of having to throw on a nosign=yes just to add a note at the end that wouldn't be useful for deletion summaries [10:37:23] duh: added my two cents to the discussion [10:37:41] :) [10:37:56] is there a bug to fix "Property talk:P31" into "Property talk:is a (P31)" ? [10:38:36] New patchset: Henning Snater; "suggester widget: Improved resizing the suggestion list" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48812 [10:39:01] yurik: what do you mean? [10:39:08] the name of the page is Property:P31 [10:39:16] so the talk would be Property talk:P31. [10:39:18] the top of the page is very non descriptive [10:39:37] the page shows "is a" at the top, but the talk page doesn't [10:39:41] very inconvinient [10:40:23] file the bug then :P [10:40:39] duh: I think that's it for the triple geners [10:40:42] genders* [10:40:51] ok thanks [10:40:59] ill make sure it doesnt happen again :P [10:41:55] * Moe_Epsilon can't complain about getting something to do [10:41:55] XD [10:42:11] oh Moe_Epsilon, could you add a "Already done" maybe a gray color to /row ? [10:44:13] sure [10:44:33] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44942 [10:44:57] thats not really a "major" bug... [10:45:13] usability... yeah, perhaps [10:45:14] DanielK_WMDE_: please have a short look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/48612/ when you've time [10:45:58] duh: True, False, ... [10:46:03] what would it be [10:46:04] :P [10:46:04] "None" [10:46:07] mmk [10:47:34] awesome thanks :D [10:47:37] :D [10:48:14] i'm abusing the str() function in python [10:49:06] okay, I changed it from none to None xD figured you'd want the uniform caps to begin it [10:49:23] yurik: i commented on the bug [10:50:12] duh: yep, now it is major [10:56:29] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Set 1 hour timeout for entities cached on the client." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48815 [11:01:22] now that I am properly tired from being awake all night, I have to start my day [11:01:30] bleh, search really needs improvement - searching for United States shows everything except what i needed :( [11:01:56] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove unused getLocalizedType" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48816 [11:02:15] had to use title search extension. Very nonintuitive [11:02:48] yurik: yes, sorry. we are working on improving this [11:03:10] Denny_WMDE: as long as you guys are aware of the issues, its all good :) [11:03:26] very [11:04:50] Denny_WMDE: do you plan to use the same search infrastructure as the enwiki uses that is based on the number of inbound links? [11:05:21] yurik: undecided yet, but it is very likely that this will be a major signal [11:05:40] Denny_WMDE: what do you mean "this"? [11:05:49] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Improved position of toggler icon" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48817 [11:09:44] Denny_WMDE: incoming links [11:09:44] sorry [11:09:47] yurik: incoming links [11:09:54] talking to yourself? :P [11:10:39] ah, yes, gotcha. Do you think search can simply delegate to enwiki? [11:10:46] (based on the current language) [11:11:04] yurik: no [11:11:07] and possibly combine other items from other langs, but scaling their score [11:11:29] i don't think that's possible [11:11:51] why not? CORS are already available in API [11:12:12] because the set of pages in wikidata and enwiki are not equal [11:12:16] ^that [11:12:22] not all enwiki pages have items yet [11:12:35] yes, but i said - merge the results from multiple sites, scaling the non-active one [11:12:56] there might be items that do not have articles on any wikipedia [11:13:24] true, but that's fine - i'm only talking about the autocomplete [11:13:36] that would be the most useful ones [11:13:53] the edgecases can always be found by hitting enter [11:14:12] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "remove unused ref to deprecated interface" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48818 [11:14:44] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Patch Set 2: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48612 [11:14:45] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48612 [11:16:02] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(bug 41163, bug 41165) Renamed Autocomment class to Summary" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47716 [11:16:14] yurik: making 270 cors js requests for every search sounds a bit… overload [11:16:29] yurik: i think we have sufficient information to locally improve the search [11:16:35] we just need to do it :P [11:17:02] hehe, but you can ask the current language one + maybe 5-10 largest ones :) [11:17:11] no need for 270 [11:17:33] thing is, you might not have the link count, because you don't have the links, only properties [11:17:47] and they might have much lower hit rate [11:17:56] yeah, I don't think to settle for the 5-10 largest ones will be warmly welcomed by the about 260 communities ;) [11:18:15] Denny_WMDE: but the primary one will be based on the current language [11:18:22] so all of them will be fine [11:18:38] because if you are editing in suahili, the suahili one will be searched first [11:18:41] actually i think just taking the number of available language links should be a very good and cheaply available signal [11:18:50] hmm, that's true [11:19:06] but we need some experiments, it's all i am saying [11:19:22] and i'm sure you can reuse the search code which is also based on some magic integer provided from autside [11:19:31] let's wait until we have the infrastructure in place where we can actually make these experiments [11:19:32] (at least that's how it was implemented 5 years ago) [11:19:54] we would like to replace all searches to a solr based backend [11:20:06] hehe, ok, disapearing. once again, i think this is the coolest proj going on, cooler than mucking with parser logic [11:20:10] this will help a lot and be more flexible, and then we can easily tweak signals [11:23:21] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Patch Set 4: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48426 [11:23:22] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48426 [11:34:35] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Adding query definition to query entity [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48819 [11:35:55] Moe_Epsilon: still around? [11:36:17] duh: for a little bit, how come [11:36:31] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Collapsing references when there is at least one" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48820 [11:36:38] can you undo this edit: https://en.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User:Legobot/properties.js&diff=prev&oldid=6398903 [11:36:47] i want to test the bots detection capability [11:37:08] and i'll do it in readonly mode so there will be no clean up needed if it goes wrong :P [11:37:26] thanks [11:37:28] :P okay done [11:37:40] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48414 [11:39:35] duh: about to leave. I got college for the next six hours, then i'll come home, be on a couple hours then I got plans until about 8 at night [11:39:41] I'll be back if I am not asleep [11:39:42] :P [11:39:54] no worries, ill find another admin to help me out :) [11:39:58] thanks for all your help today though [11:40:10] no problem :D [11:40:55] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 44661) cleanup to getContent in ViewEntityAction" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48821 [11:43:15] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 44095) enhanced claim diff visualizaion including refs" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48459 [11:43:33] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(bug 41163, bug 41165) Renamed Autocomment class to Summary" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47716 [11:55:46] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(bug 41163, bug 41165) Renamed Autocomment class to Summary" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47716 [11:56:00] Tobi_WMDE: my repo says in statements [11:56:06] could be it's fixed somewhere [11:56:48] aude: ähm.. on master? [11:56:57] yes, seems so [11:57:06] i'm reviewing daniel's patch but rebased it with master [11:57:26] aude: ok, in itemview right? not in diffview? [11:57:38] once i'm done reviewing, i'll switch back to master and confirm [11:57:44] yes item view [11:57:55] maybe i need to fetch and update [11:58:13] what patch are you reviewing? [11:58:21] change serialization [11:58:43] * aude has just a few minor comments for daniel, but think it can be merged soon [12:01:13] oh, patch not good with wmf9 client + repo master :( [12:02:43] New review: Aude; "Patch Set 6:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46294 [12:03:31] New review: Aude; "Patch Set 6: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46294 [12:05:20] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 44095) enhanced claim diff visualizaion including refs" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48459 [12:05:48] JeroenDeDauw: aude: can u have a look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/48459/ please? [12:06:37] Tobi_WMDE: ok [12:06:48] New review: Aude; "Patch Set 6:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46294 [12:07:18] * yurik is secretly planning to remove all XML support from API [12:07:28] :o [12:12:20] Jeblad_WMDE: Fatal error: Class 'Wikibase\Autocomment' not found in C:\xampp\htdocs\wikidata-repo\extensions\Wikibase\repo\includes\specials\SpecialSetEntity.php on line 375 [12:16:19] New review: Aude; "Patch Set 6:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46294 [12:18:32] yurik: if you want to work on a API bug, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44857 doesnt have takers yet i think :) [12:18:58] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(bug 41163, bug 41165) Renamed Autocomment class to Summary" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47716 [12:19:49] duh, can't really :( -- too much overhead with setting up the wikidata tests, etc - considering that i'm swamped with the core api v2 + a number of other projects [12:20:14] ok :( [12:20:15] i want to dive into it at some point, just not yet [12:22:41] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 15: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47716 [12:26:32] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Patch Set 2:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47723 [12:27:10] * Silke_WMDE_ is playing with puppet on test client -> sorry for failures... [12:27:26] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 15:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47716 [12:29:42] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(bug 41163, bug 41165) Renamed Autocomment class to Summary" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47716 [12:33:43] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Patch Set 2:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47723 [12:34:33] 90 minutes until code freeze! [12:34:39] panic! [12:35:53] it shouldn't take long for navigation popups to start working with lang links, right? [12:38:25] New review: Aude; "Patch Set 5: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48459 [12:38:39] Tobi_WMDE: see comments, though not a blocker https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/48459/ [12:38:43] * aude running the tests [12:39:06] yurik: yay, you are coming to wikipedia day :) [12:39:12] yep :) [12:39:18] * aude too :) [12:39:22] i live 10 blocks away, why shouldn't i :) [12:39:26] nice [12:39:27] cool!!! [12:39:43] happy to have a "technical" track [12:39:52] i'm thinking of doing a big presentation about the API [12:39:56] sure [12:40:08] i think i sent them the proposal, but haven't heard anything back - i guess its very informal [12:40:14] just sign up [12:40:20] did [12:40:27] lightning talk too? [12:40:34] there's no "hearing back" i think [12:40:56] it will be unconference style, though, so put stuff on the schedule the morning-of [12:41:07] but one can signup on the wiki ahead of time [12:41:40] hmm... i'm not sure really about lightning - i could do a quick demo (like guess what, there is an API!) [12:41:50] sure [12:42:05] not sure i can say that much about wikidata either in 5 min but i'll try [12:42:14] and then people can come to my open space session for more [12:42:26] but a more thorough discussion might be needed for what can be done, and where its heading [12:42:34] yeah, i guess the 5 min will be the short advertising [12:42:39] will need to make some slides :) [12:42:58] yep [12:48:09] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 2:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47723 [12:58:23] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Patch Set 5:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48459 [13:00:06] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48131 [13:00:07] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48131 [13:02:00] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 41882) Added checks for permissions and blocked status" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47723 [13:03:28] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(bug 44744) notification with copyright warning in JavaScript UI" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48825 [13:03:28] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(bug 44744) copyright warning now also displayed when adding claims/references" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48826 [13:06:28] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Patch Set 5: Code-Review-2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48459 [13:10:51] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 44911) Avoid fatal on changes to deleted item." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48827 [13:11:46] aude: Want to do that bugfix nowish? [13:15:03] pssst, duh, do you want the ID# linked? [13:15:57] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Patch Set 5:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48459 [13:18:37] Reedy: sure [13:19:04] Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/48813/ [13:19:09] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Improved interaction between toolbars" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48828 [13:19:17] and then update the commit point for the core branch [13:27:20] New review: Anja Jentzsch; "Patch Set 1: Verified-1" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48825 [13:32:45] New patchset: Aude; "Remove exception assertion from ItemTest constructor" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48830 [13:32:58] New review: Anja Jentzsch; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48827 [13:33:14] aude: done [13:33:18] exec {"code freeze": deadline => "30",} [13:33:37] Reedy: thanks [13:33:40] Silke_WMDE_: It's already snowing here [13:33:51] ES SCHNEIT! [13:33:53] New review: Anja Jentzsch; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48830 [13:33:54] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48830 [13:35:22] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q691566 looks much better for me [13:35:30] must do a hard refresh to clear JS cache [13:36:47] Reedy: We had a bit of snow last night, but not worth mentioning, except for the cold [13:37:45] * aude awaits to go home in a ~week, wonder if we get a blizzard :D [13:37:46] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(Bug 41882) Added checks for permissions and blocked status" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47723 [13:37:54] probably will [13:37:58] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Patch Set 4: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47723 [13:37:59] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47723 [13:38:05] New review: Anja Jentzsch; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48821 [13:38:17] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Patch Set 16: Verified+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47716 [13:41:39] New review: Aude; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48569 [13:41:40] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48569 [13:42:05] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48816 [13:42:06] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48816 [13:44:38] AnjaJ_WMDE: Look at this https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/48826/ [13:44:48] with that one its working on the add buttons as well [13:48:21] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(bug 44744) copyright warning now also displayed when adding claims/references" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48826 [13:50:36] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Query engine [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48831 [13:51:31] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 43990) Robust serialization of change objects" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46294 [13:53:10] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48828 [13:53:11] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48828 [13:54:32] What's the status? Will you be ready at 3 p.m.? [13:56:08] * aude is ready like tomorrow :) [13:56:44] we have a couple more patches that would be nice to get in, but not sure it will happen in time [13:57:09] cheerios [13:57:14] oops [14:00:08] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 43990) Robust serialization of change objects" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46294 [14:00:56] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48818 [14:01:10] New review: Anja Jentzsch; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48825 [14:01:30] New review: Anja Jentzsch; "Patch Set 2: Verified-1" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48826 [14:01:31] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Patch Set 8:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46294 [14:02:11] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48818 [14:02:12] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48818 [14:08:56] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Collapsing references when there is at least one" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48820 [14:11:59] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48414 [14:12:23] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48414 [14:12:28] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48414 [14:19:44] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Patch Set 2: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48820 [14:19:45] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48820 [14:19:55] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(bug 44744) copyright warning now also displayed when adding claims/references" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48826 [14:28:34] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48825 [14:28:54] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48825 [14:29:20] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Patch Set 3: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48826 [14:29:21] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48826 [14:33:49] New review: Daniel Werner; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48817 [14:33:50] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48817 [14:36:07] New review: Daniel Werner; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48812 [14:36:08] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48812 [14:39:19] panic [14:39:55] * aude cannot have central auth and run tests :( [14:40:30] central auth has tests? :p [14:40:35] no idea [14:40:41] but doesn't like the extra database [14:40:50] New review: Aude; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48827 [14:40:51] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48827 [14:41:00] code freeze! [14:41:03] Silke_WMDE_: ^ [14:41:28] yay [14:42:00] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Patch Set 16: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47716 [14:45:04] any new information about the deployment in enwiki? [14:46:58] lbenedix1: not yet [14:47:28] must wait for people in SF to see if we are okay to try again [14:50:11] DanielK_WMDE_: https://github.com/sebastianbergmann/phpunit/blob/master/README.md [14:50:23] for me it always worked when doing it as described here [14:50:47] New patchset: Aude; "(Bug 44225) Watchlist does not show when a watched article is added or removed from wikidata" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48629 [14:58:42] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48821 [14:58:43] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48821 [15:01:00] New patchset: Aude; "Omit external wikibase changes from watchlist query w/ enhanced changes" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48832 [15:06:37] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Patch Set 7:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47817 [15:09:36] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Patch Set 4:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47794 [15:13:15] Abraham_WMDE: https://www.ohloh.net/p/wikidata/analyses/latest/languages_summary [15:14:44] Abraham_WMDE: that includes ALL extensions related to wikibase [15:14:48] as well [15:17:08] Danwe_WMDE: link? [15:21:17] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 44665) start/stopEditing events for claimview widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47842 [15:22:40] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 44802) check for enhanced changes preference in more places" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48833 [15:28:41] New patchset: Aude; "Add minwiki to sort order" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48834 [15:30:07] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 44222) check for enhanced changes preference in more places" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48833 [15:35:00] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Add dt/dd msgs for of the datatypes in Special:ListDatatypes" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47817 [15:35:36] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 7:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47817 [15:38:44] are you deploying today? [15:42:00] Lydia_WMDE: ^ [15:42:32] lazowik: we're waiting for the ok from san francisco still [15:46:28] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 6:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46675 [15:52:05] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 3:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46213 [15:52:55] Change abandoned: John Erling Blad; "Doubt this will ever be used" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31004 [16:09:41] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 43994) Add a special page for pages that are not connected to items" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47794 [16:09:41] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 43994) Add property 'ConnectedItem' to ParserOutput" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46213 [16:22:46] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 43994) Add a special page for pages that are not connected to items" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47794 [16:46:26] im a daniel! [16:46:40] hello Danwe_WMDE! [16:47:33] lol [16:55:57] starting to update the demo server, it won't be available in the meantime because puppet is evil. [16:57:02] aude: http://www.lieferando.de/lieferservice-ramson-sri-lanka-und-suedindische-spezialitaeten-berlin [17:00:27] * aude wants matter panir and samosas [17:00:31] DanielK_WMDE_: ^ [17:00:33] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 8: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47817 [17:07:29] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Patch Set 3: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48629 [17:07:30] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48629 [17:23:24] devrepo now has got the Babel extension [17:25:35] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Preventing suggestion list scrollbars in entity selector widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48842 [18:14:18] Lets see how bad the traffic is.. [18:19:44] demo server is back to live. [18:19:47] life [18:30:54] New review: Aude; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf9); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48832 [18:30:56] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48832 [18:37:47] * Lydia_WMDE is at home  [18:38:24] hi Lydia_WMDE [18:38:31] o/ [18:38:31] * aude is eating [18:38:43] good idea [18:38:48] should follow your example [19:05:16] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Patch Set 4:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46213 [19:21:10] * aude getting yet another error on enwiki [19:21:13] * aude sighs [19:21:15] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City [19:21:39] Sorry, the servers are overloaded at the moment. [19:21:39] Too many users are trying to view this page. Please wait a while before you try to access this page again. [19:21:42] Timeout waiting for the lock [19:21:46] asking in ops [19:22:46] anyone can view http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City logged in? [19:22:58] * aude hopes it's just a hiccup [19:23:04] i'm not logged in [19:23:04] Worksforme [19:23:07] but it works [19:23:18] hmmm [19:23:19] logged in, still works [19:23:22] just a fluke then [19:23:32] big red error message [19:24:18] Wikidata already live on enwiki? [19:24:24] aude: Do you have any custom settings which break the parser caching? [19:24:25] no [19:24:31] hoo: not really [19:24:37] maybe a few gadgets [19:24:45] i'll try reloading [19:25:09] it's a bit slow [19:25:17] aude: Custom thumbnail size maybe? [19:25:28] not really [19:25:30] * aude can check [19:25:34] page loaded [19:25:37] finally [19:25:52] [19:25:58] 39 seconds is not really nice [19:26:06] nasty indeed :/ [19:26:34] [19:26:39] [19:26:46] * hoo will try purging [19:28:04] trying to edit [19:28:10] zzzz [19:28:14] it's normal though [19:28:21] bazillion templates, etc. [19:28:37] * aude probably will pick a different test article for removing links [19:28:40] Yeah... we really need Scribunto :P [19:28:54] Request: POST http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_York_City&action=submit, from 69.164.222.250 via cp1020.eqiad.wmnet (squid/2.7.STABLE9) to 10.64.0.138 (10.64.0.138) [19:28:58] Error: ERR_READ_TIMEOUT, errno [No Error] at Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:28:34 GMT [19:29:01] gah [19:29:04] can't save and view the page [19:29:14] aude: That can happen on such large pages [19:29:32] yes [19:29:32] we have some lists on dewiki where that always happens... but the edits are applied fine [19:29:37] it's happened before [19:29:42] * aude sure the edit happened [19:29:45] it did [19:30:14] that's not really the kind of user experience we want the user to have though... I guess :P [19:30:18] right [19:39:14] ack, time out again editing [[New York City]] [19:39:21] * aude picks a different article to edit :o [19:39:35] it's like impossible to edit and reload the pge [19:39:36] page [19:39:55] yeah [19:39:56] what i saw yesterday .... such error is i suppose normal now [19:39:57] :( [19:40:09] * aude has done hundreds of edits to that page but quite a while ago [19:40:43] never this bad, although [[Libyan Civil War]] was just about this bad and just a year ago [19:40:45] New York City serves for me: Served by mw1078 in 0.318 secs but not logged in [19:40:52] that's the squids [19:40:59] they make it much nicer [19:41:06] :) yep [19:41:07] Even logged in it's ok if you hit the parser cache [19:41:09] i am logging in [19:41:11] anyway, wikidata isn't really making it worse [19:41:19] it's not enabled yet, of course [19:41:32] no, but people will blame us :Ü [19:41:40] maybe [19:41:51] it's no difference in experience for me though [19:41:53] logged in: Served by mw1062 in 37.685 secs. [19:41:57] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Fetch localized language name" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48872 [19:42:55] DanielK_WMDE_: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44962 (btw) [19:43:06] not a blocker but would be good to backport a fix for that into wmf10 [19:43:07] action purge: Served by mw1036 in 35.558 secs. [19:43:09] normal response times here as well [19:43:19] Denny_WMDE: that's borderline yet normal [19:43:37] really a terrible user experience and doesn't make me want to edit [19:43:44] yep [19:44:05] Scribunto will probably make that better for at least some time (until people start creating new insane templates) [19:44:06] then easy to get edit conflicts, especially on a popular or current events page [19:44:17] hoo: i hope so [19:44:23] [19:44:29] anyway, reedy is working on switching the other wikis to wmf9 [19:44:33] then will get to us [19:44:35] Nope [19:44:39] Aaron already did that ;) [19:44:39] ? [19:44:41] ah [19:47:30] Just going to grab a drink and see what other food I can find [19:47:30] brb [19:47:50] ok [19:47:59] * aude will still be here :) [19:49:39] aude: insert into wb_changes_dispatch (chd_site, chd_db, chd_seen, chd_touched) values ("enwiki", "enwiki", 5381405, "20130213000000"); [19:49:52] good with me [19:50:04] chd_seen can be updated to the latest max(change_id) from wb_changes. [19:50:28] no rush, just wanted to have this Out There(tm). [19:50:59] for the record: chd_touched isn't used for anything meaningful atm, chd_seen is the important one [19:54:39] Ok, soooo [19:55:26] all good things come in threes, no? :) [19:56:51] third time's a charm indeed ;-) [19:57:21] So, we've got the actual turning back on of the extension [19:57:24] and the uncommenting of $wgWBSettings['localClientDatabases'] [19:57:54] Reedy: before you do the latter, run the sql snippet i posted above [19:58:16] right [19:58:24] thzat will prime the dispatcher process to ignore all the old changes [19:59:10] Reedy: aude reported general enwiki slowness earlier [19:59:16] i hope it's just a fluke... [19:59:16] lol [19:59:29] Enabled (again) [19:59:50] \o/ [19:59:53] * DanielK_WMDE_ starts poking [20:00:05] tell me when to publish blog and email and stuff [20:00:06] back [20:00:17] Reedy: leave the dispatcher off until we have verified [20:00:32] Reedy: just enable the extension w/o uncommenting the line [20:00:35] I was going to ;) [20:00:37] I did [20:00:45] oooh, too late :) [20:00:47] * aude tests something other than NYC [20:00:50] the link "edit links" is on the left hand side. is this a css miss, or memcache error? [20:00:55] did already hard refresh [20:00:57] yeah, i noticed that too [20:01:13] WFM [20:01:17] looks just like the other interwiki links [20:01:38] Great [20:01:39] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Assay_Commission [20:01:39] Denny_WMDE: Missing CSS that is [20:01:44] Feature article, no interwiki links [20:02:04] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szklarka_Trzcielska is good [20:02:09] now to try nyc :) [20:02:15] ok, seems to work: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wau_Holland&diff=538095579&oldid=524292941 [20:02:22] it timed out before so not shocking if it does again, nor can blame wikibase [20:02:57] * aude reverting to my edit from yesterday [20:02:59] I see it on the right [20:03:10] waiting for the revision to load [20:03:15] yep, on the right for me too now [20:03:16] loaded. [20:03:46] * aude saves nyc [20:03:49] waits...... [20:03:52] Let's remove the langlinks from the main page ... they'd kill me, I guess :P [20:03:57] no! [20:04:02] they want the magic word there [20:04:05] the page is fullprotected :P [20:04:11] * aude might stick it there [20:04:14] rschen7754: Who am I to care :P [20:04:23] hoo: REMOVE ALL THE LANGUAGE LINKS [20:04:24] later maybe [20:04:26] let's not get them to kill us right away please ;-) [20:04:29] hoo: !!! :D [20:04:31] :D [20:04:33] aude: the {{#dontmesswithmypreciouslinks}} word? [20:04:34] and transcluded on 5 backup pages so a rogue admin can't just unprotect the page without being noticed :P [20:04:40] still waiting for NYC [20:04:45] DanielK_WMDE_: yes [20:04:54] time out, but same as experienced an hour ago [20:05:04] don't blame wikidata [20:05:12] * aude expects it saved anyway [20:05:17] We should really do something to help that [20:05:20] Lydia_WMDE: "Die haben mich gewählt um zu lenken, nicht um zu denken" (Falls du den Simpsons Film mal gesehen hast) [20:05:35] -.- [20:05:41] Reedy: we should [20:05:52] it does not make me want to edit the article [20:05:56] e.g. improve it [20:06:01] Slight bump in bits app server I/O [20:06:05] ok page loaded [20:06:13] my edits saved [20:06:13] Not unexpected, processes fine [20:06:13] heh [20:06:18] links are there from wikidata :D [20:06:20] I think we should just extend the timeout [20:06:26] Reedy: we should [20:06:27] Reedy: We add new CSS (with position=top) [20:06:37] * aude reloads the page [20:06:38] I hope the position top fix made it :P [20:06:45] also the JS module for all the sites meta info. that's on the client too, right? [20:06:49] loaded [20:06:53] DanielK_WMDE_: Not yet, no [20:06:57] or will that only be added once we have the on-page linking dialog? [20:06:59] and the links are there w/ edit links link [20:07:00] ic [20:07:01] Only watchlist [20:07:11] yup [20:07:24] The process count hasn't changed too much, so the IO itself is fine [20:07:43] memcached traffic looks fine too [20:07:55] good good good [20:08:17] * aude was just alarmed yesterday about the timeout but apparently it's normal [20:08:59] ok, i think we can update the change notification table thing on wikidatawiki [20:09:13] it's been difficult editing lengthy pages on enwiki lately… at least in my experience [20:09:28] yes [20:09:29] :( [20:09:47] I wonder if we have a recent bug for it [20:09:58] no idea [20:10:04] Reedy: Only the old one which fills several screens [20:10:11] heh [20:10:14] AFAIK [20:10:16] aude: so, ready to try change propagation? [20:10:22] DanielK_WMDE_: i think so [20:10:26] right [20:10:36] we're not making anything worse :o [20:10:38] only better [20:10:45] * aude removed 4,000 bytes [20:10:47] less text to parse [20:10:53] woo [20:11:03] happy to make the articles smaller.... that helps [20:11:11] I'll reset the profiling statistics in a bit too [20:11:22] enwiki has 250 MB of interwiki links [20:11:24] duh: around? [20:11:28] aude: And makes them easier to edit on small screens :P [20:11:59] hoo: yes [20:12:58] * hoo is going to get some food [20:13:19] for me it's going to get really exciting by the time my client dialog goes live :P [20:13:34] * aude too [20:15:28] Reedy: ok. so... ready to put our fake entry into wb_changes_dispatch? [20:15:33] Sure [20:15:36] Ganglia still looks fine [20:15:41] good [20:15:48] recent changes and watchlist look fine [20:15:52] although nothing wikidata to see yet [20:15:59] the toggles work [20:16:29] Reedy: please grab max(change_id) from wb_changes on wikidatawiki [20:16:37] preferences good [20:16:38] Show Wikidata edits by default in recent changes and watchlist (does not work yet with enhanced changes) [20:16:44] I was just copy pasting it from my backscroll ;) [20:16:51] * aude overwrote the system message the other day [20:16:59] to add the note about enhanced changes [20:17:11] Reedy: that's fine too, will be some 200 changes more, but eh. [20:17:14] that's ok [20:17:18] No, i mean I was getting max(change_id) from wb_changes [20:17:27] ah :) [20:17:40] good [20:17:44] our sql wrapper is borkened [20:18:36] :( [20:19:02] [max(change_id)] => 5382743 [20:19:46] insert into wb_changes_dispatch (chd_site, chd_db, chd_seen, chd_touched) values ("enwiki", "enwiki", 5381405, "20130213000000"); [20:19:49] AnjaJ_WMDE: poke ^ [20:19:54] 5382775 [20:19:55] things looking fine [20:20:10] I'm presuming the timestamp doesn't need changing? [20:20:11] Reedy: do you want to uncomment the settings line? [20:20:13] no poking needed, aude ;) [20:20:17] AnjaJ_WMDE: good [20:20:50] Query: insert into wb_changes_dispatch (chd_site, chd_db, chd_seen, chd_touched) values ("enwiki", "enwiki", 5382793, "20130213000000") [20:20:50] Function: [20:20:50] Error: 1062 Duplicate entry 'enwiki' for key 'PRIMARY' (10.64.16.8) [20:20:51] heh [20:21:03] how about update [20:21:06] yeah [20:21:06] instead of insert [20:21:10] just writing it out [20:21:11] Reedy: well, remove & insert, then [20:21:27] update or replace would do, but needs different syntax :) [20:21:29] since it was previously enabled, makes sense that we have an existingi entry [20:21:33] right [20:21:36] for enwiki [20:21:48] Reedy: chd_seen is the only feeld you need to update [20:21:49] UPDATE wb_changes_dispatch SET chd_seen = 5382793 AND chd_touched = "20130213000000" WHERE chd_site='enwiki' and 'chd_db' = 'enwiki'; [20:21:58] yea [20:22:11] err, that should be ",", not "AND", right? [20:22:18] or does mysql accept AND there? [20:22:57] heh, yes [20:23:22] it's not updating it though [20:23:47] o_O [20:23:49] wtf [20:23:55] > UPDATE wb_changes_dispatch SET chd_seen = 5382839, chd_touched = "20130213000000" WHERE chd_site='enwiki' and 'chd_db' = 'enwiki'; [20:23:55] Query OK, 0 row(s) affected [20:24:18] Reedy: 'chd_db' = 'enwiki' [20:24:24] that's false :) [20:24:28] oh ffs [20:24:31] :P [20:24:39] Now it's done [20:24:43] good [20:25:51] config change is out [20:26:00] reedy@fenari:/home/wikipedia/common$ mwscript showJobs.php test2wiki [20:26:01] 72789 [20:26:02] * Reedy glares [20:26:14] ah [20:26:17] error? [20:26:34] we have a patch from DanielK_WMDE_ and could backport it [20:26:39] hm? [20:26:40] looks alright in screen to me [20:26:44] I'll leave it running [20:26:46] Reedy: hmm [20:26:52] i think test2 did stop updating [20:27:02] Just blame aaron [20:27:08] there's a patch for making cached entities expire from memcached, but a full job queue doesn't seem related [20:27:20] looks good now [20:27:21] (diff | hist) . . Szklarka Trzcielska (Q4282935); 20:22 . . Aude (Talk | contribs) (Language link removed: pl:Szklarka Trzcielska) [20:27:41] fwiw, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/48815/ [20:27:45] didn't seem to update earlier today but could be blamed on translate extension [20:27:52] from what i hear [20:27:57] aude: what was wrong with that anyway? [20:28:07] i saw people complain about it on wikidata [20:28:09] DanielK_WMDE_: problem with the job queu [20:28:10] e [20:28:15] ganglia still looks fine ot me [20:28:16] and translate stuff [20:28:41] aaron fixed core to accommodate the issue and thing translate folks also fixed it [20:28:50] Reedy: issues to look out for are growing job queue backlog and high memcached miss rate [20:29:00] yep [20:29:13] reedy@fenari:/home/wikipedia/common$ mwscript showJobs.php enwiki [20:29:14] 1170 [20:29:16] for reference [20:29:31] looks ok [20:29:34] * Lydia_WMDE is ready to push buttons when you say GO [20:30:09] * aude clicks refresh on recentchanges [20:30:17] is the dispatcher script running already? [20:30:22] and my watchlist [20:30:26] Lydia_WMDE: i'd give it half an hour, just to see if it holds up [20:30:30] now it is [20:30:41] although might take 5 minutes to restart [20:30:46] and pickup enwiki [20:30:52] needs a bit to process the backlog [20:30:54] DanielK_WMDE_: i'd prefer not to wait that long [20:30:55] reedy@fenari:/home/wikipedia/common$ mwscript showJobs.php enwiki [20:30:55] 15794 [20:30:57] yep [20:30:57] hmmmmm [20:30:58] should catch up pretty soon, though [20:31:01] Lydia_WMDE: heh [20:31:09] Reedy: it's pretty fast [20:31:11] Reedy: can you get a count for specific types of jobs? [20:31:15] I can [20:31:19] But the job runners are weighted [20:31:21] Reedy: like, job_type = ChangeNotification [20:31:27] So enwiki gets lower priority [20:31:34] DanielK_WMDE_: Yeah, we were doing that for test2wiki yesterday [20:31:49] ic [20:32:05] Making fenari do some work for a change [20:32:10] heh [20:34:48] folks, you may put http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szklarka_Trzcielska on your watchlist [20:34:55] it should have some wikidata changes soon [20:35:16] * aude finding something other than Q60 for testing :) [20:36:02] have the edits here : (diff | hist) . . Szklarka Trzcielska (Q4282935); 20:34 . . Aude (talk | contribs) (Language link changed from pl:Starczówek to pl:Szklarka Trzcielska) [20:36:47] ah, yay [20:37:03] (diff | hist) . . Szklarka Trzcielska (Q4282935); 15:34 . . Aude (talk | contribs) (Language link changed from pl:Starczówek to pl:Szklarka Trzcielska) [20:37:06] * aude sees it [20:38:05] I don´t see it here :s [20:38:21] * aude sees it in recent changes [20:38:29] Wiki13: do you have enhanced changes preference [20:38:33] e.g. JS grouping changes? [20:38:38] i see it on my watchlist! yea! [20:38:39] if so, turn that off [20:38:58] aude: taking a look at my prefs now... [20:39:05] * aude turns on enhanced changes to check it [20:39:18] brb [20:39:36] it's under recent changes, not watchlist [20:40:21] I don´t have that option enabled [20:40:23] rschen7754: somewhat silly but yes that's where the preference is [20:40:25] hmm [20:40:32] the watchlist is cached [20:40:46] -.- [20:41:09] enhanced changes look fine [20:41:11] e.g. no wikidata [20:41:18] no malformed wikidata entries [20:42:49] when did you deployed? [20:43:14] Last 45 minutes or so [20:43:18] yep [20:43:18] as a 2 step process [20:43:22] everything is good [20:43:48] congrats [20:43:52] and vandalism starts :P [20:44:10] from enwiki then [20:44:11] wondering how many reverts will be there [20:44:11] https://www.wikidata.org/?diff=6428859&oldid=6173712&rcid=6440959 :P [20:44:35] heh [20:44:35] wooho [20:44:35] Oh [20:44:35] (people not realising that Wikidata is alive) [20:44:40] Do we have the wikidata db migration scheduled yet? [20:44:49] oh yeah, it doesn't seem like the thing in preferences works very well [20:45:48] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked&hidewikidata=0&target=B%C5%82aki [20:45:52] looks good [20:45:53] there [20:46:07] excellent [20:46:08] * aude loves that special:recentchangeslinked just magically works [20:46:25] same code as recentchanges and just extendign the class [20:46:25] i have the box turned on, but on my watchlist it still says "Show wikidata" [20:46:36] rschen7754: hrm [20:46:44] enwiki job queue has dropped down again nicely [20:46:52] good [20:47:04] and the wikidata edits are hidden by default [20:47:17] * aude checks group changes [20:47:18] and I cleaned my watchlist there on enwiki [20:47:26] aude: DanielK_WMDE_ Reedy Denny_WMDE: good to push blog and emails now? [20:47:47] we can't avoid it at some point ;-) [20:47:50] Lydia_WMDE: wait a while to see if it falls over :P [20:47:52] Lydia_WMDE: i think so [20:47:54] heh [20:47:56] :) [20:48:01] DanielK_WMDE_: we're doing that for the last 30 mins [20:48:13] aude: Why "Szklarka Trzcielska" :D [20:48:20] I have only been doing that for 15 minutes :) [20:48:29] lazowik: many of the polish villages are not yet linked to wikidata [20:48:43] * aude has a script that adds a link to the sidebar in enwiki [20:48:46] Lydia_WMDE: the job runner only now caught up with current changes [20:48:51] ok i give you another 10 [20:48:56] "Add to Wikidata" or "Wikidata" -- linked to the item [20:48:57] so... give it until 22:00, ok? [20:49:01] ok [20:49:07] it's not good enough to go into the extension yet and we'll have hoo|away 's thing soon [20:49:24] clicking special:random, i find stuff to add [20:49:29] ah [20:49:39] was interesting to try during the weekend :D [20:49:42] now I see wikidata changes :o [20:49:47] yay! [20:49:52] in my watchlist [20:50:03] everything is formatted *right* [20:50:11] links to my user page in wikidata, the entity, etc [20:51:28] \o/ [20:52:49] the diff links look good, etc. [20:53:01] * aude squashed the watchlist bugs [20:53:15] itwiki, hewiki, huwiki should be happy too [20:55:57] yes! (diff | hist) . . Aloeides pallida (Q4535477); 21:54 . . Wiki13 (talk | contribs) (A Wikidata item has been linked to this page.) [20:56:00] :) [20:56:19] 4 mins until doooom [20:56:23] lol [20:56:31] DOOOOM [20:56:44] you are correct Wiki13! [20:56:52] i should have capitalized this [20:57:05] :D [20:57:15] just like the Long Pointy Stick of DOOOOOM!!!! I get to use in KDE ;-) [20:58:20] yeah, i keep having to click "show wikidata" in the watchlist, though wikidata shows up on the recentchanges by default [20:59:05] ¨Show Wikidata edits by default in recent changes and watchlist (does not work yet with enhanced changes)¨ <- doesn´t quite work with watchlist to be honest [20:59:36] I need to click on Show Wikidata first, before they show up [20:59:55] Wiki13: yup, having that problem too [20:59:59] Reedy: we would like https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/48893/ setting change deployed [21:00:15] 22:00!!! [21:00:16] to use www. in the wikidata link, since editing is currently broken on wikidata without the www. [21:00:22] time to push some buttons [21:00:24] api errors [21:00:26] * Lydia_WMDE goes and does so [21:00:32] Lydia_WMDE: :D [21:00:49] Wiki13: hmmm, you ar eright [21:01:00] oh and btw: http://eikehein.com/poke_stick.jpg <- lovely one used by kde's sysadmins [21:01:04] * aude makes a bug ticket [21:01:38] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 44962) Return true from ChangeNotificationJob." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48905 [21:02:09] oh ok aude. could you link me to the ticket when you´re done? [21:02:58] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44973 [21:03:21] the watchlist toggle is done with JS but sure we can fix it fairly easily [21:05:00] * rschen7754 votes for the bug [21:05:21] rschen7754: heh [21:05:39] otherwise, everything appears to work as intended, as far as i see [21:08:26] Lydia_WMDE: tweet it, i want to retweet :) [21:08:34] DanielK_WMDE_: done [21:08:40] tnx [21:08:42] :) [21:09:03] hm, i don't see it... [21:09:10] hmpf [21:09:13] stupid identica [21:09:23] hasn't yet forwarded it it seems [21:09:31] * Lydia_WMDE kicks it [21:09:35] ah, i see it in your timeline, but not wikidata's [21:09:36] i got it [21:09:37] whatever :P [21:09:41] :D [21:09:42] ok [21:10:06] looks good [21:11:10] * aude reads the village pump and notes that lua is coming soon [21:11:29] among exciting stuff :) [21:11:42] lua? in MY wikidata? [21:12:01] FYI: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata%3ANews&diff=6430151&oldid=5828846 [21:12:06] heh [21:12:10] on enwiki apparently [21:13:06] Reedy: how's the job queue? [21:13:29] 91 [21:13:30] :D [21:13:36] Lydia_WMDE: just updated the news for the Main Page on Wikidata :) [21:13:40] test2 is down to around 41k [21:13:42] Wiki13: \o/ [21:13:42] ok [21:13:49] see above :D [21:14:49] Lydia_WMDE: Hi, When did wikidata goes live on french Wikipedia ? [21:15:18] on which page do you have "wikidata.org" when Googling wikidata? [21:15:46] Jitrixis: it didn't yet - we're planned it for 27th but will probably need to reschedule as i wrote in my blog post [21:15:48] Jitrixis: I guess when all the other Wikipedia´s go live too... [21:16:02] Jitrixis: but around the 27th [21:16:04] and per Lydia :P [21:16:07] :) [21:16:31] * aude is on vacation that week so doesn't mind if it's rescheduled [21:16:36] Lydia_WMDE & Wiki13 : thanks ^^ [21:16:42] np [21:16:45] otherwise, i'd work during vacation but don't mind :) [21:17:10] * aude shall edit wikidata during vacation :D [21:17:18] Jitrixis: i will send a message to all village pumps about that soonish [21:17:31] If we're waiting a little while for the "and the rest" deployment, shouldn't we maybe add a couple next week? [21:18:04] Reedy: our communication has always been otherwise so i think that'd be bad(TM) now [21:18:06] Lydia_WMDE: ok [21:18:20] i was wondering about that… it'll be a very long deployment with over 250 wikipedias [21:18:38] rschen7754: will take more time to get all the settings updated [21:18:53] but deployment itself shouldn't be that bad i hope [21:19:05] Awww [21:19:15] it should be fine [21:19:54] Ganglia looks all good to me still [21:20:05] AFK for a shower. There's people around if you need anyone quickly [21:20:16] Reedy: well deserved now :) [21:20:31] i think we are good and i'll head home shortly [21:20:49] * aude can come on irc again in ~30-45 min [21:20:54] i'll stay awake for a few more hours and watch things [21:21:02] ok [21:21:23] * aude happy for the feedback from users on huwiki, itwiki and hewiki [21:24:31] yes! [21:24:35] very much so [21:31:13] Lydia_WMDE: So when are you guys going live on the nlwp? [21:31:49] multichill: hey :) [21:31:55] check http://blog.wikimedia.de/2013/02/13/wikidata-live-on-the-english-wikipedia/ ;-) [21:32:13] short version: it was planned for 27th but we'll probably need to move it a few days [21:32:19] not sure to which day yet [21:32:23] but around the 27th [21:32:25] multichill: around the 27th Lydia said before [21:32:28] oh lol [21:32:32] Wiki13: ;-) [21:32:40] I was about to say the same [21:33:09] Is that so DanielK_WMDE_ can chase us around the office in SF? [21:33:10] Look, I've been editing wikidata since 2009 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Multichill :P [21:33:10] :p [21:33:19] Reedy: yes! [21:33:28] but nlwiki will be with all the other Wikipedia´s [21:34:27] New review: Reedy; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48905 [21:34:52] DanielK_WMDE_: I assume wikidata will break Commonsense? [21:35:15] me off :) good night everyone and thanks! [21:35:53] (now you have to say: Yes, right, I forgot about that. Is anyone still using that?) [21:37:15] New review: Reedy; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48905 [21:37:16] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48905 [21:37:44] goodnight Denny_WMDE [21:38:15] * aude really going home [21:41:12] before i go home..... [21:42:03] * aude has one thing to do [21:46:47] Lydia_WMDE: you really like your female European scientists, don't you? ;) [21:46:58] PinkAmpersand: totally! :D [21:47:06] PinkAmpersand: you see there is an evil plan behind this [21:47:09] ;-) [21:47:18] i thought as much [21:47:29] lol [21:50:59] PinkAmpersand: tbh though - i want to shine the light on some great women scientists because that happens way too little [21:51:05] and this is one nice way to do so :) [21:51:53] I guess we should deploy Daneils return true fix to the job [21:53:29] aude: ^ No rush ;) [21:53:48] Lydia_WMDE: haha i'm all for capitalizing on opportunities to publicize things one cares about... seeing as I made the item on my father Q4000001 [21:53:57] :) [21:54:19] Reedy: sure, although aaron says it's not urgent [21:54:36] just tidies it up [21:54:55] ok [22:02:47] hi [22:02:54] Lydia_WMDE? [22:03:02] Don-kun: hey [22:03:12] ich kann wieder nicht bearbeiten in wikidata [22:03:17] aber gerade eben ging es noch [22:03:36] vorhin eine beschreibung ergänzt -> funktionierte [22:04:08] nun wollte ich ein statement ergänzen, "ist ein/eine", das feld für den dazugehörigen wert kam aber nicht [22:04:18] Don-kun: narf - das ist echt komisch [22:04:20] nur so ein ladedings [22:04:26] dann hab ich abgebrochen [22:04:32] und nu geht auch anderes bearbeiten nicht mehr [22:04:36] Don-kun: bist du per https da? [22:04:48] nein [22:04:53] hmmmmm [22:05:14] kannst du diskussionsseiten und so editieren? [22:05:21] irgendwie blockiert diese statement-eingabemaske [22:05:21] oder deine nutzerseite [22:05:26] mom, das probier ich mal [22:05:29] ok [22:06:08] ja das geht [22:06:16] (nutzerseite) [22:06:20] ok [22:06:21] gut [22:06:35] du hast die seite die du editieren willst auch schonmal neu geladen? [22:07:04] ja, ich habs auch gleich auf anderen seiten probiert [22:07:09] ok [22:07:38] AnjaJ_WMDE: hoo: habt ihr noch ideen? Don-kun kann nicht editiren und reload hilft nicht - non-item pages gehen [22:07:45] oder sonst jemand? [22:09:59] Don-kun: Welchen Browser nutzt du den? [22:10:24] Irgendwelche bemerkenswerten Gadgets oder scripts? [22:10:50] hoo: ne, das hatten wir letztens schon alles ausgeschlossen [22:11:05] browser ist firefox 18.0.2 [22:11:11] Don-kun: Stimmt, du warst das, ja :/ [22:11:55] Bekommst du inzw. JavaScript Fehler? [22:12:08] derselbe fehler wie beim letzten mal [22:12:09] (Fehlerkonsole bekommst du mit Strg + Shift + J) [22:12:26] nein [22:14:12] Don-kun: Hatte es das letzte mal nicht eingeloggt funktioniert? Und wie war es in anderen Browsern? [22:15:21] mit IE hatte ich garkeine möglichkeit was einzugeben, das hat die teile der seite nicht angezeigt [22:16:23] abgemeldet kam eine fehlermeldung, aber die eingabe wurde anscheinend dennoch angenommen: http://de.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q106800&action=history [22:17:27] Hast du die noch (den Wortlaut)? [22:17:42] die IP-änderung [22:18:20] hoo: http://de.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q106800&diff=5916328&oldid=574448 [22:18:47] Ich meinte die Fehlermeldung [22:18:55] kam immer dieselbe [22:18:56] mom [22:19:04] * Moe_Epsilon waves [22:19:43] hoo: "Beim Speichern ist ein Fehler aufgetreten. Die Änderungen konnten daher nicht vollständig durchgeführt werden." [22:19:54] :/ [22:20:11] Irgendein API-Fehler der von uns nicht expliziet abgefangen wird [22:20:20] * expliziet [22:20:31] * explizit [22:24:08] Don-kun: Kennst du dich näher mit so etwas (=Webentwicklung) aus? Wir können dir mit diesen Daten im Moment leider nicht helfen [22:25:40] hoo: nein, mit sowas kenne ich mich garnicht aus [22:28:03] Don-kun: wie es scheint können wir dir im moment leider wieder mal nicht weiterhelfen :( die richtigen leute sind nicht da [22:28:19] besteht eine chance, dass du irgendwann mal früher am tag hier bist? [22:28:55] die andere alternative die ich dir anbieten kann ist warten bis montag - dann machen wir das nächste update auf wikidata.org [22:29:00] vielleicht fixt es das [22:29:20] das ist natürlich beides eher unbefriedigend aber mehr kann ich leider im moment nicht für dich tun [22:31:51] Das ist möglich [22:33:05] Sowas ist grundsätzlich ziemlich schwierig umzusetzen... nicht nachvollziehbare Problem anzugehen ist immer ziemlich schwer [22:33:12] * Probleme [22:33:54] man könnte wb.RepoApiError mit einem debug log austaten [22:34:10] Das wäre definitiv eine Überlegung wert, ob es hier was bringt, weiß ich nicht [22:45:44] hallo! :) [22:45:50] hi aude [22:46:17] i'll look at the www.wikidata thing and repo api tomorrow [22:46:19] hoo Lydia_WMDE: sicher kann ich mal früher im chat sein, ich bin halt immer gekommen wenn ich versucht habe zu bearbeiten ;) [22:46:32] see what's up with editing without the www. [22:46:38] Don-kun: :D das wäre cool [22:46:51] aude: What do you think about logging API errors to console in wb.RepoApiError? [22:46:56] aude: \o/ i don't think that's Don-kun's issue though [22:47:05] ich kann nicht bearbeiten ohne www. :/ [22:47:22] there is more than one issue i'm sure [22:47:47] hoo: not really great to do [22:47:52] aude: Why? [22:47:58] We got mw.log for that, don't we? [22:48:04] maybe in debug mode only? [22:48:09] mw.log does that ;) [22:48:11] not sure where it's used [22:48:14] ah, ok [22:48:49] we might want to ask denny and danwe [22:49:00] and danielk [22:49:27] aude: Do you mind if I push it to gerrit now? [22:49:34] We can kill it later if we decide so [22:49:36] sure and then we can discuss [22:49:48] people can see what you are talking about [22:49:54] Yeah :) [22:50:17] i'm having trouble with your widget , for example on my test repo [22:50:25] need to debug that also [22:50:33] err test client + test repo [22:50:48] and on the wikidata official test repo :/ [22:51:01] aude: Gr, what exactly? [22:51:07] no edit token [22:51:14] just an anon edit token [22:51:25] so it always thinks i'm logged out, even if not true [22:51:50] i have the cors thing settting [22:51:52] setting [22:52:04] aude: Weird... could be my thing or some configuration glitch [22:52:22] i am not sure but now that i am not busy with deployment, i can poke at it [22:52:41] could be my settings [22:52:44] don't know [22:53:12] Cross wiki editing is a rather new thing not yet used anywhere [22:53:18] right [22:53:21] (within deployed code only gadgets maybe) [22:53:31] yep [22:53:44] is there no way at all to do it with jsonp? [22:53:51] * aude not tried [22:54:07] aude: No, not at all [22:54:11] hrm [22:54:17] We need to edit [22:54:21] sure [22:54:40] Denny thought about a client side API for that but that would totally blow the size of the client [22:54:48] * aude nods [22:55:27] if i commented out the lines about checking if i am logged in, then [22:55:35] the widget worked and recorded my ip address on the repo [22:55:55] That's a condition which should never ever occur [22:56:00] sure [22:56:38] you can look on the test client / repo [22:56:41] it has the widget [23:00:58] New patchset: Hoo man; "Log API errors in JavaScript to console if in debug mode" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48968 [23:01:44] :/ Messed the commit message [23:03:58] New patchset: Hoo man; "Log API errors in JavaScript to console if in debug mode" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48968 [23:04:30] well we can edit commit messages :) [23:04:46] Oh, you can do that in gerrit now? [23:05:31] yes [23:05:35] it's amazing [23:05:44] only before the patch gets merged though [23:06:20] * hoo tries [23:06:36] New patchset: Hoo man; "Log API errors in JavaScript to console if in debug mode" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48968 [23:06:56] :) [23:08:26] nivr [23:08:28] nice