[00:02:04] * Jasper_Deng begins to close this round [00:03:20] cool [00:06:25] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Improve class refs" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51071 [00:11:38] there we have it, our first round where no-one failed [00:13:38] yay :) [00:43:57] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46686 [00:45:27] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46686 [01:02:29] Jasper_Deng: have you seen https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:ValterVB/List1, by the way? [01:02:36] no [01:06:28] well now you have ;) [01:13:33] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50935 [01:19:23] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50940 [01:27:01] New review: John Erling Blad; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50941 [01:27:03] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50941 [01:27:41] legoktm, do you actually like LEGO? [01:27:47] of course! [01:27:49] i love legos [01:27:53] SERIOUSLY???? [01:27:59] hehe [01:28:06] ofc [01:28:19] You know that the website I've been working on for the past month is Brickipedia, the LEGO Wiki? [01:28:25] We're moving off of Wikia finally. [01:28:29] :DDDDD [01:28:32] nice [01:29:04] It's exciting stuff. We haven't been able to do the development stuff as fast as I would have liked, because the two people involved that know how to do some stuff are lazy as poop D:< [01:29:18] heh [01:29:45] took uncyclopedia a good 6mo-year [01:29:59] We'll be fully up in two weeks. [01:30:05] awesome [01:30:51] who's the webhost? [01:31:09] it's running on a VPS (a very cheap and reliable one, fortunately), with me paying for it [01:31:10] Brickipedia's probably a smaller project than Uncyclopedia, but Im curious [01:31:15] No, it's bigger. [01:31:19] really?? [01:31:20] huh [01:31:20] (considerably bigger) [01:31:37] Is it? [01:31:38] You should create pages for every lego brick in existence [01:31:44] We are also united in our attempt to move, unlike uncyc :P [01:31:49] :x [01:32:11] http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Statistics [01:32:22] http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Special:Statistics [01:32:37] yeah [01:32:42] uncyclopedia is larger [01:32:45] We get around 150 people who make at least 5 mainspace edits a month [01:32:46] twss [01:32:56] er, editor wise not pages [01:32:56] * PinkAmpersand doesn't get why Wikia doesn't use the standard MediaWiki layout [01:33:12] PinkAmpersand: complaintwiki.org [01:33:13] I think they used to [01:33:16] if they did, I'd be wayyy more likely to get into it [01:33:23] Wikia sucks [01:33:23] but they needed more room to put up ads [01:33:24] basically [01:33:41] also, http://awa.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Anti-Wikia_Alliance [01:33:44] at least for some wikis, Wikia once used a Wikipedia-like interface [01:34:50] yes, it used to use the mediawiki layout on several back when it was called wikicities and the early years of wikia [01:34:56] the problem is, wikis that move off of Wikia still can't get back the pageviews [01:34:58] legoktm: "Atheism Wiki: No plans to leave. There is some concern from the administrator, Proxima Centauri that there are regular advertisements from religous groups. This appeared unfair as no one would consider putting advertisements onto Christian Wikis encouraging Christians to become freethinkers." [01:34:58] Lol @ "no one would consider". [01:34:59] the good-ol days. [01:35:22] PinkAmpersand: wait till you get to the part about fuck.wikia.com [01:35:38] a wikia dedicated to fuck? [01:36:20] We have commons for that [01:36:20] I actually didn't realize that uncyc had that many pages O_o [01:36:31] but I guess that's what you get from more years of consistant activity [01:36:34] Moe_Epsilon: Nah uncyclopedians got the domain [01:36:38] and an unlimited subject space :P [01:36:40] darthipedia got shit.wikia.com [01:36:47] lol oh [01:36:47] haha [01:36:51] believe me [01:36:56] importing uncyclopedia was not fun [01:37:14] wikia kept the userbase different [01:37:16] I don't imagine it was :P [01:37:23] so much corruption [01:37:31] i think WoWWIki was one of the most determined objectors [01:37:46] then they moved to Wowpedia [01:37:59] now the Wikia site is doing better than them for pageviews still, but less for editors [01:38:48] right [01:38:54] thats the main problem uncyclopedia is having [01:39:11] low search results [01:39:25] I've contacted Google about completely removing Wikia from the search results, lol [01:39:34] :o [01:39:41] How did that go? [01:39:44] It hasn't gotten high enough... yet [01:39:56] Hahah [01:39:58] Nobody that can change anything has answered it yet, but it is moving up. [01:41:38] really? [01:41:50] I really doubt Google would hurt themselves that way [01:41:53] theyre probably the ones funding half of the ads on Wikia [01:42:06] no, Wikia doesn't use google ads any more [01:42:09] well, not funding the ads, I mean placing the ads [01:42:10] I see [01:42:11] Wikia search™ [01:42:41] I didnt know that a site that large could survive without Google [01:42:51] They didn't used to, but now they can. [01:42:57] I've always wondered how much money Wikia makes. [01:43:03] Especially to page hundreds of staff. [01:43:10] Hundreds of staff? [01:43:18] They share employees with WMF I thought. [01:43:21] Well some. [01:43:28] They employ over 100 people either full or part time. [01:43:40] Oh right [01:43:45] So, kinda hundreds :P [01:43:46] Like in Sweeden or something [01:43:51] Sweden * [01:43:55] Some in the US and some in Poland. [01:45:18] The largest problem that the new uncyc will have is all of the people that stayed behind. [01:45:24] The old uncyc is still really active. [01:45:54] i think lego showed me the recent changes ratio was 5:1 in favor of the new wiki [01:46:04] maybe that was just the ]initial setup buzz though [01:46:09] yeah [01:46:11] Anyways, I'd better go and do something useful now... [01:46:34] well freeuncyc is still more active than uncyclowikia [01:46:52] for now [01:46:59] Forever. [01:47:07] lol, good luck with that :P [01:47:22] Seriously though, good luck. Let Wikia crash and burn. [01:47:34] Ooh, before I go: What does uncyc use for hosting. [01:47:36] ?* [01:47:48] servers [01:47:54] I hear it costs 100 a month, and considering how laggy it is I'd say that's a bad deal :P [01:47:57] Reedy, lol [01:48:08] $100/mo doesnt seem bad for a site its size [01:48:44] Ajraddatz: OVH, and you have to talk with emc about financials [01:49:04] I was able to get a VPS which fills all of Brickipedia's needs (at this point anyways) for $80 a year. [01:49:12] Might need to upgrade that, though... [01:49:18] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51036 [01:49:48] whoa [01:49:51] $80 a year? [01:50:08] Yeah. It's fantastic too, incredibly fast. [01:50:15] thats less than I pay for my little tiny website that looks like its from the 90s [01:50:25] it doesnt even have CGI [01:50:30] or SQL [01:50:34] hehe [01:50:52] Ajraddatz: hmmm…i might make the person who rented our server talk to you [01:50:54] do you have SQL and studd? [01:50:56] *Stuff [01:51:05] yeah, we have SQL [01:51:19] Wait until Bricki is completely moved off and established. [01:51:40] It'll probably have comparable server needs, since there are double the users and about half the images+content [01:51:48] well i guess thats obvious [01:51:55] Im pretty sure MediaWiki requires SQL access [01:52:01] yeah [01:52:38] also, the images and content probably are more resource-intensive than the users. But whatever, don't question my incredible logic. :P [01:55:52] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51037 [02:01:26] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51038 [02:07:17] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51039 [02:17:26] New review: John Erling Blad; "Got a sigsegv." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51042 [02:23:41] New review: John Erling Blad; "The sigsegv did not repeat after a rebase, not sure why as it would only rebase on top of the depend..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51042 [02:27:59] is there a gadget or something to force users to be on www.wikidata? [02:28:08] i hate when i click on links and end up on en.wikidata [02:30:32] New review: John Erling Blad; "New review without rebase, got "zend_mm_heap corrupted"" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51042 [02:47:06] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51071 [03:08:04] New review: John Erling Blad; "Tested with group Wikibase" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51042 [03:08:44] * Jasper_Deng pokes techman224 [03:08:57] Jasper_Deng, yes? [03:17:18] yet another reason it sucks to be James Garfield: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q34597&diff=1357732&oldid=762879 https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q34597&diff=prev&oldid=7921415 [04:00:13] New patchset: Aude; "Less static stuff in noexternallanglinks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51108 [04:01:59] New patchset: Aude; "Less static stuff in noexternallanglinks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51108 [04:16:44] hmm [04:16:56] anyone know if there is a bot on huwiki removing langlinks? [04:17:03] I created https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikidata_migration to help organize [04:19:42] ill ask binaris [05:37:53] * Jasper_Deng pokes addshore [05:38:19] heyloooo [05:49:06] does anyone know of any statistics that can be found or that could be generated for the number of language links used from wikidata rather than from in article IW links per minuite (or something similar)?? [05:49:27] ummm [05:49:31] per minute? [05:49:36] you mean like server logs? [05:49:47] and cross reference them with pages using wikidata links? [06:06:02] legoktm: yes or something similar :/ [06:06:09] I imagine it would be rather tricky though :/ [06:36:16] am I correct in thinking it is a week until wikidata is rolled out to all other languageS? [06:36:24] *thats the plan* [06:37:45] addshore: march 6 [06:38:01] right then :P [06:38:40] addshore: i wonder if we should make requests in languages so we can get flagged before rollout? [06:38:53] that is exactly what I was just thinking [06:39:00] for all the small wikis [06:39:02] we can divide [06:39:31] I start at the top and you start at the bottom (size wise) ? :P [06:39:36] heh [06:39:47] medium/large have to be tag-teamed [06:39:52] yep :P [06:39:58] for some of the small ones you may have to post at the village pump and hope nobody complains :P [06:40:11] but thats what I mean :) By time you get to the top most of the simple links will be removed :) [06:40:36] I'm going to make a page on wikidata locating all of the places to post for approval :/ [06:40:46] addshore: there might be a page on meta [06:40:50] but it's not exhaustive [06:41:02] addshore: there is one [06:41:07] :D [06:41:12] on meta :P [06:41:14] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4615128 [06:41:21] oh HAHA! [06:41:25] oh and [06:41:25] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SRB#Instructions [06:41:30] how appropriate [06:41:44] thats a point, my bot currently only removes from article space also! [06:42:02] mine hits all namespaces except userspace [06:42:11] good :> [06:44:02] oh and my webbased tool [06:44:10] works too :) [06:44:52] hm [06:44:56] ukwp is set to 0? [06:45:06] its medium [06:45:11] minwiki is super small [06:45:24] minwiki we may as well do by hand ;p [06:45:27] LOL [06:45:40] oh come on, it says 3 ;p [06:45:46] there are more now [06:45:50] its "relative size" [06:46:07] problem [06:46:11] is we need to get translations [06:46:14] for edit summaries [06:46:33] or just run it in english [06:49:03] a lot of the smaller wikis can be run in english probably… i mean edwardsbot, and the filemover tool are all english [06:49:29] and some wikis still have an english-only interface despite it being another language wikipedia :P [06:49:29] hmm [06:49:37] can we mark all the global bot wikis? [06:50:49] * addshore has requested global bot on meta [06:51:04] right [06:51:09] but can you mark them all on the table? [06:52:42] willdo :P [06:53:01] add another column or something [07:20:38] see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikidata_migration [07:20:50] I think I listed them all [07:24:29] ok [07:25:40] hm [07:26:38] this is going to be fun. [07:37:06] legoktm: 25 wikis I havent been able to find pages for approval or a not saying they are global :< [07:37:17] ok [07:37:22] well i think we can figure out those later [07:37:34] i think there you can post on the village pump [07:37:40] and then go to meta when they don't respond [07:38:27] yeah [07:38:32] i'm gonna sleep now [07:38:44] night [07:39:28] wow you're sleeping this early? [07:39:34] lol [07:49:02] * addshore feels he should have gone to sleep about 8 hours ago [07:51:32] this would be allot easier if I knew every language in the world :P [07:55:04] and google translate doesn't do them all either :/ [07:57:58] nope :D [07:58:02] addshore: might want to look on project chat for the 1-2 wikipedias that dropped by and said they wanted wikidata installed [07:58:10] one was pretty recent, one was a few months ago [07:58:16] kk :) [07:58:55] may wait until legoktm gets back up as we could probably combine our requests in one message considering we both need the same thing on every wiki [08:35:19] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Fixing namespace renaming aftermath" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51115 [09:14:13] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Proper "enter" key handling for entity selector's "more" link" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51119 [09:47:10] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Moving "entitysearch" to experimental features" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51121 [09:59:39] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51115 [10:10:19] Silke_WMDE: about the vagrant-bug: that was fixed weeks ago... I asked here in irc and you fixed the problem within one day I think [10:27:12] ah ok [10:35:45] does anyone knows where I can find the system message for the following sentence: ´´Restore revision by ? [10:38:53] Wiki13: http://dev.translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ASearchTranslations&query=Restrore+revision+by [10:39:10] but don't edit on that wiki, it's just testing environment [10:39:11] oh ok thanks [10:41:41] Nikerabbit: will translatewiki be like that in the future? [10:42:13] Wiki13: yes [10:42:18] nice [10:42:50] in fact as soon as Java decides to cooperate with us we can enable search [11:07:48] Lydia_WMDE: are you there? [11:17:53] lbenedix1: yes [11:20:43] New review: John Erling Blad; "(2 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50749 [11:21:24] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 45353) Add ItemDisambiguation to the list of special pages" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50749 [11:32:56] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 45353) Add ItemDisambiguation to the list of special pages" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50749 [11:44:20] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added to SetupTest and moved mock service object implementions to non-test code" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51042 [11:54:20] New review: John Erling Blad; "Passes, it seems.." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51042 [11:55:56] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51042 [11:58:30] JeroenDeDauw: joining us @ Schnittchen? [12:16:44] someone want easy chocolate? :) [12:16:47] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/51030/ [12:27:02] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/50944/ is also easy chocolate :) [12:47:04] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(hot fix) include ask extension if available" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51157 [12:47:10] aude: only thing - the chocolate is empty. :( [12:52:22] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50915 [12:53:04] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50944 [12:58:36] Lydia_WMDE: who? [12:58:44] benestar|away ? [12:58:44] JeroenDeDauw: lbenedix1 [12:58:48] ah [13:00:00] lbenedix1: if you where to make a "tail" section of the wikidata nyancat that can be printed and put next to itself to make it longer, we might very well end up with a loooooong nyancat here in our office :) [13:00:25] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "automatically include ask extension if available" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51157 [13:01:18] JeroenDeDauw: how long should it be? [13:01:39] lbenedix1: so it fits nicely on an A4 or an A3 [13:02:08] As long as it can nicely be put next to itself, we can make it infinitely long [13:02:21] Or rather as long as we have walls in the office [13:02:32] Though somehow I suspect people will get mad if we did it in the whole office [13:03:06] getting mad WITHOUT a Nyancat??? [13:16:59] aude: how does it look like with the claim diff view? [13:17:10] JeroenDeDauw: ^^ [13:17:41] Tobi_WMDE: no nyancat in there yet, we really ought to fix that [13:18:17] JeroenDeDauw: no nyancat supposed to go in there, I'm sorry :-P [13:18:28] !nyan [13:18:29] ~=[,,_,,]:3 [13:18:35] !nyandata [13:18:36] https://bit.ly/nyandata [13:22:18] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51157 [13:24:14] JeroenDeDauw: http://lb.bombenlabor.de/nyan/tail.png [13:25:48] Abraham_WMDE: ^^ [13:26:23] lbenedix1: thx! [13:32:12] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Cleanup in EntityContent.php" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51161 [13:39:49] hello! is there a way to create statements using only JS? [13:48:37] i'm just not quite sure where to start - something to do with wb.Api? [13:55:22] :D [13:55:42] Tobi_WMDE: ^ [13:55:56] (14:40:03) inductiveload: hello! is there a way to create statements using only JS? [13:55:56] (14:48:52) inductiveload: i'm just not quite sure where to start - something to do with wb.Api? [13:56:01] Danwe_WMDE: ^ [13:56:32] inductiveload: yes, there is. Use wb.Statement constructor [13:57:08] That will give you a Statement object. You can then store them via the API (wb.RepoApi). [13:58:15] wb.RepoApi.prototype.createClaim to be specific. [13:59:01] and others to store statement specific parts. There is not store abstraction to just take the Statment object and just store it though :( [14:02:21] Danwe_WMDE: thanks, taking a look now :-) [14:04:03] Frozen code is frozen! [14:05:40] will tag asap [14:05:50] AnjaJ_WMDE: Thanks! [14:28:41] Admin? THere's a vandal range having fun on http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q185076&action=history [14:28:43] Danwe_WMDE: do I need to get hold of a Snak first? [14:30:34] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Defined most of the DataValueHandler interface" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51162 [14:30:35] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added DataValueHandler tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51163 [14:32:04] aude: after https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/50944/ beeing merged, "(none)" is displayed always on the client.. what's that for? [14:32:36] it also causes all the client selenium tests to fail, and thats blocking us from testing todays branch/tag [14:34:33] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added DataValueHandler tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51163 [14:36:22] any editor here who wants to look over an announcement? i could use another pair of eyes before sending it [14:46:32] inductiveload: You need a Snak to construct a Statement, yes (it requres at least a main Snak) and it should say so in the constructor's doxygen documentation [14:46:52] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51121 [14:48:36] * Lydia_WMDE pokes rschen7754|away and James_F|Away and Raymond_ hoping one of them has 5 mins for her [14:52:19] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "(Bug 42063, 44577) Special:EntityData supports RDF/XML output" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51164 [14:54:38] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added base of GeoCoordinateHandler [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51165 [14:58:25] tagged 2013-02-27 [14:59:13] New review: Anja Jentzsch; "Do not submit before tests are done." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51164 [15:02:21] Lydia_WMDE: hi [15:02:36] rschen7754|away: \o/ got 5 mins for a query? [15:03:10] not really, i have to head out the door :( [15:03:24] rschen7754|away: ok np [16:42:04] Lydia_WMDE: Hey, Here now. [16:42:24] Lydia_WMDE: If you're still in need of me/someone. :-) [16:47:35] hrm, where is everyone? [16:48:24] * aude waits 5 min to see if someone approves https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/51030/ [16:48:31] else self merging as super trivial [16:49:36] DanielK_WMDE: want chocolate? :) [16:49:50] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/51030/ is easy chocolate [16:52:25] nobody wants chocolate :/ [17:04:23] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51030 [17:04:31] aude: done [17:04:43] * aude brings chocolate back to germany :) [17:04:48] thanks DanielK_WMDE [17:05:08] np [17:05:20] DanielK_WMDE: How's your phone? [17:05:33] * DanielK_WMDE should bring some too, was just shown a chocolate shop on market street [17:05:37] heh [17:06:04] Silke_WMDE: crashing slighly less often after I uninstalled some traffic counting apps [17:06:07] but still, meh [17:06:19] :/ [17:06:37] * addshore pokes all the WMDE people with a question, is it at all possible to see the number of langlinks that are using wikidata rather than on page IW links? :D [17:06:40] Silke_WMDE: thanks for your mail though. didn't have time yet to check it out. [17:06:47] probably not aq good idea to do this on a trip anyway [17:06:53] addshore: not yet [17:07:00] I think it would be an interesting graph to see :p [17:07:15] ah, you mean like overall? [17:07:23] yee :P [17:07:48] right now it's difficult to tell, as both get stored the same place in wikipedia [17:07:48] oh no, puppet doesn't give my test repo back [17:07:49] aude: i discussed the local vs external langlinks issue with tim yesterday. he came up with a solution that seems feasible. i'll file a feature request later [17:07:49] i.e. quantity of langlinks that is used from WD every min [17:07:51] db [17:08:02] DanielK_WMDE: cool.... i'm thinking about it [17:08:17] nice DanielK_WMDE ! :) [17:08:22] DanielK_WMDE: can you make a bug report today? [17:08:36] so to make sure we're working in the same direction? [17:09:13] * addshore would love to know how many IW links there are still on ENwiki :P [17:09:15] addshore: it's easy to tell how many links are in wikidata for which wikipedias [17:09:27] aude: will try. in a nutshell: put noexternallanglink info into pageprops. put only local langlinks into the langlink table. have a wrapper class for getting effective lang links, which wikibase can hook into, adding links from the repo. expose generic flags field through api [17:09:27] difficult to tell how many local interwiki links there are [17:09:56] DanielK_WMDE: sounds good [17:10:23] right now i'm adding properties in parser output and output page to know when stuff from wikidata is used [17:10:28] aude: this mechanism also allows us to avoid the re-render when external langlinks change [17:10:31] e.g. switch off the edit link [17:10:37] aude: yep! :P the stats I generated seem to be going in the wrong direction because of the table sharing [17:10:38] cool [17:10:49] aude: yes, we want that info there too. [17:10:57] also the entity id should go there [17:11:11] the way we add the "edit link" sucks right now [17:16:17] yes, the entity id should be in the parser output and probably also in page props [17:16:56] john will be happy to know that an index just got added to pp_name, so we can at least efficiently check whether a page has an item ID associated with it or not. [17:18:52] DanielK_WMDE: awesome [17:19:20] DanielK_WMDE: unrelated but i'd also like an index in recentchanges table on rc_type, if we can get that.... [17:19:23] and tim and aaron found the mystery bug causing the garbage login tocken [17:19:30] cool [17:19:30] this was actually burried deeply, and quite nasty [17:19:48] not ourfault. core bug. just hit us because we are the newest wiki [17:20:08] maybe that helps the client widget work better..... i'm still poking at that [17:20:20] triggered by a database schema change, but really caused by several slight inconsistenciesand oversights interacting. ugh. [17:20:24] ugh [17:39:12] DanielK_WMDE: for putting item id in parser output property, which form would you like it? [17:39:20] numeric id? prefixed? or what? [17:47:47] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 45037) show edit link only if we have repo links" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51179 [17:51:12] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 45037) show edit link only if we have repo links" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51179 [17:51:13] New patchset: Aude; "Less static stuff in noexternallanglinks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51108 [17:53:14] benestar: around? [17:55:09] hey shanmugamp7 :) [17:55:50] Hi vogone :D [17:57:10] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51157 [17:58:05] Danwe_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/51157/1//COMMIT_MSG DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH ;p [18:00:53] aude: prefixed. [18:01:06] DanielK_WMDE: got it [18:01:20] aude: prefixed is the canonical external form, i prefer it everywhere unless we need the raw performance of int values [18:01:30] * aude knows you are busy but https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/51179/ (and a dependency) [18:02:04] * aude sure the implementation can be perfected in followups but it fixes 2 bugs and goes in the right direction i think [18:03:16]