[00:32:09] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Implementing create table in the query interface [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51811 [00:54:12] JeroenDeDauw: heh, you want LQT? :P [00:54:37] legoktm: are you a bot or something? All over the place! [00:54:46] he sees all [00:54:47] Haha [00:54:59] you popped up in the cvn channel since no one whitelisted you [00:55:42] legoktm, sorry I haven't used your awesome autopatrol thing yet. Been busy with life :P [00:55:49] no worries [00:56:00] i am going to re-write it into a userscript eventually [00:56:07] i started learning javascript recently [00:56:09] its sooo useful [00:56:12] You are truly amazing... :P [00:57:02] have you seen my easyblock.js script i wrote for spambots? [00:57:13] legoktm: there's one? [00:57:14] I'd probably die if I did. Where is it? [00:57:35] (well, User:Legoktm/easyblock.js I guess... :P) [00:57:36] it blocks for either 6/3mo depending on whether you mark it as an open proxy, and then redirects you to Special:Nuke/user [00:57:37] yeah [00:57:42] and indefs for any account [01:01:07] :< when is the toolserver going to stop having technical difficulties :< [01:01:17] Nuke the users! [01:01:26] * JeroenDeDauw really likes Nuke just because of the name [01:01:40] legoktm: what is cvn? [01:01:44] #cvn-wikidata [01:01:50] countervandalism network [01:01:53] What does cvn stand for? [01:01:55] rite [01:19:17] Jeblad_WMDE: REVIEW!!!! [01:19:23] * JeroenDeDauw hides [01:20:03] Jeblad_WMDE: actually nothing to review yet [01:20:20] what are folks doing at 2:30 am? working? :D [01:21:13] Not me [01:22:14] heh [01:22:38] * aude heads out in search of tacos :D [01:22:41] later.... [01:23:04] #omnomnom [01:23:20] * JeroenDeDauw is off to count nyancats [01:49:05] #Iiiik! [03:02:44] addshore: you're entirely done with he? [03:02:51] nope [03:02:56] dont a first run [03:03:01] oh [03:03:11] but need to get my dump queries setup so I can do everything properly [03:03:12] why? :O [03:03:34] I mean, 75,000 articles are doneish ;p [03:03:53] just wondering [03:04:05] it all happened very quickly :P [03:49:42] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 45607) Add a callback for the hook for reordering of special pages" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51826 [03:49:48] no edit summaries on wikidata? [03:49:56] its all automated? [03:50:10] 'cause I jsut removed a link, but I wanted to explain why I did [03:55:10] oh well [03:55:13] ill just post on the talkpage [03:55:30] Swob: what was your question? [03:55:40] that's my first mainspace edit on wikidata [03:55:54] ah [03:55:55] yeah [03:55:56] http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1454125&diff=8520520&oldid=7998504 [03:55:58] no edit summaries [03:55:59] this edit had no edit summary [03:56:05] it apparently is that way by default [03:56:15] just leave a note on the talk apge [03:56:17] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 45607) Add a callback for the hook for reordering of special pages" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51826 [03:56:17] page* [03:56:18] since there's no apparent "edit" link on the top of the page [04:01:45] you already have over 8 million diffs [04:03:26] hmm? [04:03:40] Page edits since Wikidata was set up 8,608,585 [04:03:51] thats a lot [04:03:59] we're nearly at 5 million items [04:04:14] Wikipedia only has 500 million diffs and has been around 12 years [04:06:21] heh [04:06:29] my bot is nearly at 500k edits [04:06:39] we got moved to s5 from s3 last week [04:07:01] er [04:07:07] no i thought we're on s5? [04:07:17] ooh my bot passed 500k [04:07:53] https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=s5.dblist [04:07:57] we're still on s5 [04:08:00] oh [04:08:01] you said [04:08:02] from [04:08:03] >.< [04:08:05] * legoktm is tired [04:10:29] legoktm: any clue why this didn't trip the filter? I've checked, Japanese is on there http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q953638&action=history [04:10:55] idk [04:11:01] bit busy [04:11:11] ok [06:50:51] hello everybody [06:51:10] can you please check this wikidata entry I just created? http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5742046 [06:51:49] hi [06:52:03] hi legoktm [06:52:06] looks good to me [06:52:17] you can add some properties like "author" [06:52:17] thanks, but I have some doubts [06:52:21] like what? [06:53:08] I added the description in spanish, is that right? that showed me that language, so I wrote "libro" instead of "book" [06:53:20] yeah its in spanish [06:53:35] theres a gadget called "label lister" which helps you do multiple languages [06:53:37] also [06:53:44] ohhhh [06:53:48] you can add a {{#babel}} box on your userpage [06:53:56] and itll show you other languages you have listed [06:53:57] ok :) [06:54:12] and finally is ?uselang=es [06:54:13] :) [06:54:34] and, I read: only short descriptions, so I wrote only one word [06:54:40] eh [06:54:43] it can be longer [06:54:56] ok, can I edit it? [06:55:00] of course! [06:55:02] maybe [06:55:03] *how [06:55:06] "book by ____" [06:55:06] :) [06:55:07] um [06:55:09] there should be [06:55:14] ? [06:55:22] to the right of libro" [06:55:23] "by Norman Davies and Roger Moorhouse" [06:55:33] it says "[editar]" [06:55:35] ohh I see [06:55:42] yeah, but in spanish :P [06:56:13] just "de Norman Davies...", or "de [[es:Norman Davies|Norman Davies]]..." ? [06:56:14] 10[6] 10https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Davies [06:56:32] I mean, with wikilinks? [06:58:11] ups, you are editing it, sorry ;) [06:58:59] no wikilinks [06:59:07] oh didnt mean to conflict sorry [06:59:18] go ahead [06:59:19] no, don't worry [06:59:23] I'm learning ;) [06:59:42] and I had not edit conflict [07:00:12] ah ok [07:01:01] and, I see a text: "Declaraciones" (maybe Declarations in English), what is that? [07:02:52] those are statements aka claims [07:03:10] so you can add things like "author" --> "Norman Davies" [07:03:24] there's a list of what you can add at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:P [07:03:39] thanks, let me see [07:07:54] mm that doesn't look easy [07:08:31] its a bit weird at first [07:08:33] then it gets easy [07:10:38] ok... can you please to indicate me how did you add an English description, and how to add descriptions in more languages? [07:13:26] sure [07:13:40] so my default language is set to english, so it makes it easy :{ [07:13:40] but [07:13:42] for you [07:13:49] the easiest option would be with babel boxes [07:14:09] on your userpage, add {{#babel|es-?|en-?}} (whatever levels you are, and then save) [07:14:22] ohhh ok, I'll do it :) [07:14:23] mine is en-N, es-1, gu-1 so i see [07:14:29] http://cl.ly/image/301B2q2K2I3a [07:14:52] er wait [07:14:55] that was with ?uselang=es [07:14:58] i normally see http://cl.ly/image/2g3f1I3p1h1X [07:15:30] ohhhhh [07:16:03] the only other way to do it is with label lister gadget [07:16:09] awesome :) I thougt I had to modify something in my Preferences, but it's with a babel box :) [07:16:20] yeah its really cool [07:17:44] mmm but without the # right? [07:17:48] oops i gave you the wrong syntax. fixed it [07:18:05] it should have been #babel:es|en-3 [07:18:28] ahhh without { } [07:18:47] no with them :P [07:18:57] hehehe [07:18:58] it was ":" vs "|" [07:19:10] :D hehehhe I see :) [07:19:30] done :) http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:UAwiki [07:19:43] yeah [07:19:46] now go back to the item [07:19:48] and reload [07:20:20] ohhh I see the difference [07:20:39] now I can edit English description too [07:21:17] yup [07:21:36] and if you want to continually see another language, you can add it-0 or something to your babel [07:21:46] but you should also install label lister [07:22:14] what does laber lister do? [07:23:34] http://cl.ly/image/1V2F2S3I2v2N [07:25:05] ahhhh yes, it seems useful :) but I only speak English and Spanish, maybe I won't know to spell in another languages [07:26:03] i randomly find it useful [07:26:12] so just easier to have it installed all the time [07:26:42] ok, I think so :) how do I install it? [07:27:11] just go to your preferences [07:27:19] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets [07:27:23] its listed as "label lister" [07:27:49] done :) [07:28:43] now, how do you see all languages? [07:29:29] label lister shows you everything that is availible [07:29:50] and if you want to add a new language, use "edit" in labellister [07:31:41] ohh I see, that tab next to History [07:32:22] next to "View History" and "Read" [07:32:47] yeah [07:38:09] ok, thanks a lot legoktm, you were very helpful [07:38:15] see you :) [07:38:17] no problem [07:38:18] :) [07:38:23] bye [09:34:48] Pink|TV: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions&diff=prev&oldid=8604853 [10:43:10] hello! sorry to be back again with silly javascript questions, but how do I create a snak with JS. I can already send an API request to create a new claim directly, but I have to refresh the page to see it - if I create a Snak "properly", would it appear automatically? or is there a "proper" way to automatically drive the interface? [10:45:10] maybe you should look and see how the current default page js does it? [10:45:40] personally i would just do window.location = '/wiki/'+mw.config.get('wgPageName') since its easier [10:50:04] hi legoktm! i do a "document.location.reload(true);" but the result is the same i think [10:50:14] probably [10:50:26] i'm a noob at javascript [10:51:02] there's a lot of doxygen commentary, is that all presented somewhere? [11:05:07] legoktm: oh lol sorry. that's what i get for waxing poetic [11:09:38] legoktm: can you set more than one claim per api request? [11:09:48] i havent figured out how to [11:10:03] my bot sets a property [11:10:09] then makes another request to add a source [11:11:17] when sourcing stuff, how should you source stuff like "X is an English author"? [11:11:39] few wikipedia pages bother to have citations for that unless it's a complex situation [11:13:59] Pink|TV: sorry [11:15:01] benestar: hmm? [11:15:28] I warned the ip the same time as you :/ [11:15:34] have reverted myself [11:15:34] oh. didn't notice [11:15:41] kk [11:19:55] PinkAmpersand: by the way do you know [[User:Bene*/userwarn.js]] ? [11:19:55] 10[1] 10https://wikidata.org/wiki/User:Bene%2A/userwarn%2Ejs [11:21:25] * legoktm looks at his super skimpy https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Legoktm/quickwarn.js :( [11:21:54] inductiveload: no clue. all my bot does is source "Imported from" --> "xx Wikipedia" [11:22:29] pretty sure its the only bot that uses it, and it already has 33k instances [11:22:57] benestar: no. looks cool... i'll try it out :) [11:23:12] it's just beta [11:23:17] created it yesterday ;) [11:23:31] oh ok. probably won't try it out then, lest I delete the main page ;) [11:24:09] PinkAmpersand: it works just fine [11:24:20] but the documentation is missing and such things [11:24:28] I already used it some times [11:24:37] and you won't delete the main page ;) [11:25:54] benestar: can you make it work on special:Contributions pages? [11:26:04] legoktm: of course [11:26:13] thanks :) [11:35:49] legoktm: done [11:35:55] you can try it out [11:36:30] thanks will do in a bit [12:40:51] Wiki13: http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q913523&diff=8646648&oldid=1507609 [12:40:59] vandalism or does that make sense? [12:45:47] I need a bit of help [12:46:46] Hahc21: where do you need help? [12:46:52] benestar: I wonder if the user doesn't want to add the following information: "In indonesian (ina.wikipedia), it's "Mother Russia" too" (and patung would be article) [12:47:21] but ina. doesn't exist, it's id. [12:47:25] (and 3 letters code would be idn) [12:47:32] :/ [12:47:38] and http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Russia doesn't exist [12:47:40] Benestar: The items are not showing properly on Firefox [12:47:53] patung would mean statue [12:47:56] http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patung [12:48:18] Hmmm [12:48:31] It may be because of Global Twinkle, now that I think of it [12:49:21] Oh yes [12:49:26] It was Twinkle [12:49:30] Nvm I fixed it [12:49:37] Thanks ^^ [12:49:40] ;) [12:50:12] I didn't know that global twinkle was not compatible with wikidata [12:52:28] its not [12:52:39] because wikidata doesnt use standard pages [12:52:52] it uses a different content-handler type [12:52:57] which isnt text [13:02:21] Oh [13:02:36] I just realized, but thatnks for the clarification legoktm :) [13:02:45] np [13:31:02] Wiki13|afk: around? [13:32:22] "|afk". [13:32:25] lol [13:32:32] :P [13:32:44] I alway forget to change my name [14:28:41] umm Pink|away thats a bit silly [14:28:59] oh wait [14:29:00] no i see [14:29:01] hm [14:29:12] that really seems like it should be a feature in mediawiki [14:38:13] Wiki13: does this make sense: http://www.wikidata.org/?diff=8674820&oldid=893110&rcid=8690069 ? [14:38:31] I can´t see it [14:39:15] I can´t read any page here atm [14:39:16] do you like the script now as it is? [14:39:24] :O what happened? [14:40:11] my network is failing atm [14:53:29] Hi, is there a 'abbreviation' property, I can't find one in the List of properties [14:53:59] no [14:54:05] you would use aliases for that [14:54:47] I'm thinking about formal abbreviations, like "km/h" for 'kilometre per hour' [14:55:01] Do you think an alias is OK for that? [14:57:07] yes [14:57:19] OK, I'll add [14:57:42] Thehelpfulone is stalking me :< [14:57:51] lies, watching meta RC :P [14:58:35] (I noticed a change in an IRC channel so I looked, I don't just leave meta RC feed running all the time :P) [16:13:31] any developers around ? [16:14:01] if you state your question you might get a faster response.... [16:16:15] An important discussion is currently taking place about Wikidata in the Hebrew Wikipedia's village pump [16:16:18] Wiki13: it was done ;) [16:16:36] ah ok [16:20:06] ....some prominent editors there have raised concerns regarding how the community would be able to monitor the changes made in Wikidata (which would be presented in the pages of the Hebrew Wikipedia among others) performed by users with malicious intent or users whom have an opinion which is vastly different from that of the mainstream consensus in the Hebrew Wikipedia [16:20:54] hmm [16:20:55] the main concern is that we would not be able to know about such changes at all if they are happening in pages in our watchlists in the Hebrew Wikipedia [16:20:58] Lydia_WMDE: ^ [16:21:41] WikiJunkie: hey :) [16:22:01] WikiJunkie: they are already showing up in recent changes and will continue to do so [16:22:14] and that when we eventually would find out somehow about these changes we would have to hold new discussion in Wikidata and conform to a new consensus in the Wikidata discussion page [16:22:24] Hi Lydia [16:22:39] they should also show up in your watchlist iirc [16:22:55] can someone confirm? [16:23:30] brb [17:29:35] Danwe_WMDE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIyy7x4XqEc [17:43:20] * legoktm expected a nyan cat video [17:46:08] legoktm: uncle bob is as awesome as nyancat [17:49:47] Danwe_WMDE: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44933 [18:15:06] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Rewrite of rebuildTermSearchKey" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51847 [18:16:17] oooh, folks are coding today [18:16:23] hi DanielK_WMDE [18:16:45] * aude been pretty good about staying on vacation :) [18:17:08] aude: hey! just submitted the stuff i did on the plane yesterday :) [18:17:17] i just wrote you an email re plans today [18:17:48] ah, okay [18:18:05] i'll probably code more tomorrow on the plane [18:37:48] hello :) [18:38:49] I have a doubt, I tried to add "Anticuerpo policlonal" (spanish) to this entry http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q930144 but it says it's not possible, occupied by http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5474185 [18:39:55] how can I join these entries? [18:41:45] UAwiki: has to be done manually :/ [18:42:07] aude: ohh and how? [18:42:11] * aude clicks [18:42:53] i would remove the site link from Q5474185 and add it to the other one [18:43:15] seems like es interwiki link was missing from the other set of interwikis [18:43:42] yes, that spanish article didn't have interwikies, I just added them [18:43:45] then you can nominate Q5474185 for deletion as a duplicate [18:43:52] ahhh [18:44:14] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions [18:44:28] or i think there's a gadget that adds a shortcut for requesting deletions [18:44:30] * legoktm points everyone to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/Property_inheritance/P21_not_in_P107 which is a list of items with "sex" set but not "entity type" [18:46:20] aude2: ok :) let me try then [18:46:37] ok [18:46:44] * aude has a sockpuppet here :D [18:49:08] Done :) [18:51:03] that was quick.... the admins are very quick :) [18:51:13] legoktm: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q24&diff=8729393&oldid=6423609 <- ahum? [18:51:31] he's a person. [18:51:53] We don't care if it's fictional? [18:51:58] fictional person [18:52:22] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:List_of_properties#Fictional_people [18:52:24] Is Adam a person or a fictional person? [18:52:24] is there a property for something like living persons? real persons? fictional people? [18:52:28] I asked that question already :P [18:52:29] ah [18:52:37] "type of person" [18:52:41] ah, ok [18:52:50] oh no that doesnt exist yet [18:52:55] i was just suggesting it [18:53:27] Pareto's principle on steriods: 95% of Wikidata editor time will be wasted on borderline cases :P [18:53:39] hahahahah [18:53:40] the other 5% will be in writing the bots :P [18:55:01] ok, thanks aude :) and good bye everybody [18:55:03] legoktm: another report could be [18:55:21] UAwiki: sure :) [18:55:27] :) [18:56:10] ugh stupid keyboard [18:56:32] entity type: disambiguation, but doesn't have "Wikipedia disambiguation page" as a description [18:57:00] problem is, i cant look up what the entity type points to [18:57:43] o right, is that one of the things without a table yet? [18:57:53] unfortunately :/ [19:07:02] * Jeblad_WMDE pops his ugly head in the channal, finds nothing of interest and goes into hiding again [19:13:34] is there a way when linking to a Property (like [[Property:P42]]) to have the localized label show up? [19:13:34] 10[2] 10https://wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P42 [19:15:07] maybe aude knows? [19:15:12] :) [19:16:57] ooh inductiveload [19:17:01] i can do a report [19:17:07] based on enwiki categories/templates [19:17:23] (or any other wiki) [19:20:08] oo [19:20:18] there's a ton of species out there [19:20:45] lol [19:20:50] thats on my todo list already [19:21:11] hmm [19:22:01] my bot currently imports data based on wikipedia (any language) categories [19:22:15] im nearly done having it import based on template values [20:08:02] legoktm: can you read the descriptions and/or labels of WD items? [20:08:11] yes [20:12:57] i was going to say you could look for nationalities in descriptions but not present as properties, but probably this is easier to get direct from wiki categories (?) [20:15:47] maybe [20:15:50] have you seen [20:16:04] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Legobot/properties.js [20:16:06] inductiveload: ? [20:23:37] JeroenDeDauw: are you there? [20:23:38] legoktm: yes i have [20:23:57] ok :) [20:25:41] what do you have in mind for species? [20:26:21] just importing the basic taxonomy data [20:27:05] what are you using as sources? seems nl.WP is well endowed with species pages [20:27:20] but wikispecies is also presumably a good source? [20:27:31] i was going to start with enwp [20:27:43] but realistically i can import from any wiki [20:30:18] do we have a property for cousins? [20:31:21] dont think so... [20:35:22] * addshore has decided there are too many articles with interwiki links [20:36:35] heh [20:36:38] whats the count? [20:38:46] 12million pages atm [20:39:01] im not even half way through the lists ... [20:39:04] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Implementing create table in the query interface [DO NOT MERGE]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51811 [20:40:15] huh [20:40:29] if you're going in order, they get smaller [20:41:07] /data/project/legoktm/dbs.txt is the list [20:49:48] legoktm: localized to the language on the page? [20:49:57] users language i guess [20:50:22] right now https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/Popular_properties is hardcoded to english [20:50:33] id like it to be shown to the user in whatever language theyre using [20:50:48] legoktm going in the order you generated them [20:50:52] 13.7 million [20:50:57] basically turn on linker for all links [20:51:23] Jeblad_WMDE: is that something i need to do? [20:51:47]