[00:54:07] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Add doc" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52334 [01:26:51] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 45761) API module wbremoveclaims fail to use baserevid" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52346 [03:08:17] Any zh speaker want to resolve an interwiki conflict? https://toolserver.org/~legoktm/cgi-bin/wikidata/checker.py?site=hu&id=q7281 [04:11:26] Wow, lots of folks in here. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4736612 [04:11:50] Anyone want to help me fill out some prison / incarceration data this weekend? [04:11:59] nickname kylestone [04:14:36] Guest26461: what kind of data? [04:17:52] kyle^ [04:43:46] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Figured out layout of the QueryStore interface" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52356 [04:43:57] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52334 [05:35:10] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Create tables from SQL store setup" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52359 [07:45:10] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AVivaelcelta&diff=7132617&oldid=4559313 [07:45:12] hmmmmm [07:59:13] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Removing toolbar definition from listview widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52361 [08:06:21] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added stubs to QueryStoreUpdater" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52362 [08:06:21] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Return correct value for getName in the SQL Store" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52363 [08:06:22] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added preliminary definition of two non DV tables of the SQL Store" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52364 [08:06:22] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added docs to FieldDefinition" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52365 [08:19:45] anyone know if amir/ladsgroup ever comes on irc? [08:30:15] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Removing toolbar definition from listview widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52361 [08:46:59] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added FieldDefinition::mutateFields" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52366 [08:46:59] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Work on SQLStore setup" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52367 [08:51:13] you know, i think we're at the point where we need to split project chat into different pages [08:51:30] it's getting to be a huge mess [08:51:35] LQT! [08:51:42] Reedy: Die. [08:51:53] How rude. [08:51:53] imho we need some sort of technical or help desk and then a discussions page for policies [08:51:55] at least a technical help page vs a policy page [08:52:03] ...lol [08:52:21] Reedy: LiquidThreadsv5 [08:53:46] sounds perfect [08:54:59] boxofjuice: going through a few of the road cats now [08:55:04] * boxofjuice saw :) [08:55:20] today will be a wikidata day [08:55:24] launch and all [08:55:32] it's going to be a huge day... [08:55:39] * Lydia_WMDE is a bit scared [08:55:44] just a tiny bit [08:55:44] ;-) [08:55:50] Lydia_WMDE: I know, LQT on wikidatawiki! [08:56:02] hackernews, update on wikidata.org and roll-out on all wikipedias in one day... [08:56:09] Reedy: *poke* [08:56:11] so the strings are coming? [08:56:11] ^ hard [08:56:12] ;-) [08:56:24] rschen7754: looks like it - monolingual only though [08:56:29] ok [08:56:37] so you can do stuff like isbn numbers and such [08:57:08] oh right [08:57:12] today is rollout :) [08:57:24] Reedy: kidding aside - i'd soooo love a better discussion system but something tells me lqt isn't it ;-) [09:05:51] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added MonolingualTextHandler" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52368 [09:05:51] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added IriHandler" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52369 [09:06:35] Lydia_WMDE: Y U NO LQT? [09:06:58] JeroenDeDauw: because deep inside i am evil and mean [09:07:03] (but don't tell anyone) [09:07:23] usenet? [09:27:24] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added table for valueless snaks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52370 [09:28:07] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52346 [09:45:23] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Removing reference specific handling from the listview widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52373 [10:14:13] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52356 [10:15:06] Ai, that one got in but I tested the wrong changeset! [10:15:16] If it break its my fault [10:30:29] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52359 [10:30:56] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 45769) make string datatype non-experimental" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52382 [10:31:13] oh my [10:31:16] https://toolserver.org/~legoktm/cgi-bin/wikidata/checker.py?site=hu&id=q16691 [10:31:39] Denny_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52382/ [10:31:48] Someone tried merging SuSE and openSuSE :/ [10:32:32] Tobi_WMDE: that looks rather straightforward [10:32:37] it needs to be backported too [10:33:27] sure [10:35:38] Change merged: Denny Vrandecic; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52382 [10:35:53] o.o [10:36:04] when is that going to go live? [10:36:55] if everything goes well, tonight [10:37:06] :D [10:37:24] is it live on test-repo? [10:38:20] yup it is [10:38:21] cool [10:40:45] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52362 [10:43:13] Lydia_WMDE: have your read mails from google company on api ml requesting wikidata realtime data? [10:43:31] and Denny_WMDE ^^ [10:43:34] Merlissimo: jep seen it [10:43:39] and they got an answer [10:43:52] thx for poking [10:44:49] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52361 [10:44:55] Hi all [10:45:02] Any estimated time for the Phase I full deploy? [10:45:37] jem-: nope - first ones at the end of the month hopefully - the rest soon after it but no exact dates [10:46:19] Ehm ? [10:46:25] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52363 [10:47:10] i think jem- was aksing about enabling wikibase client extension on all wikipedias [10:47:21] Yes, indeed :) [10:47:35] Which was planned for today [10:51:17] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52364 [10:51:43] jem-: sorry - that was for phase 2... [10:51:46] * Lydia_WMDE can't read ;-) [10:51:52] right [10:52:01] * jem- forgives :) [10:52:07] so that'll be late tonight [10:52:28] I guess European night [10:52:31] yes [10:52:37] Ok [10:52:40] Change on 12mediawiki a page Extension:Wikibase Client was modified, changed by Jeroen De Dauw link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=655877 edit summary: [-4] [10:53:08] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52373 [10:53:34] I have the block-addition-of-interwikis filter ready to activate [10:53:54] :) [10:54:04] keep in mind that they are still needed in some cases [10:54:07] Yes [10:54:30] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52365 [10:54:30] It will only block in main and "Anexos" namespaces [10:54:34] *nod* [10:54:53] And I'll watch the log of the filter [10:55:03] great [10:55:55] Changes or removals will be allowed anyway [10:56:26] jem-: which wiki is this? i can have my bot (and addsleeep's bot) remove interwikis where wikidata is an exact match [10:57:24] es.wiki [10:57:55] https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bot/Autorizaciones#Addbot [10:57:57] At least two bots have already offered to do so on our [[es:WP:BOT/A]] page [10:57:57] 10[2] 10https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:BOT/A [10:58:09] Yes :) [10:58:14] well mine is the best because it imports back into wikidata :) [10:58:15] So that's one of them [10:58:36] Yes :) [10:58:36] lemme file a request [11:01:37] done [11:01:44] https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bot/Autorizaciones#Legobot [11:02:55] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52024 [11:03:35] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52366 [11:04:13] Ok [11:04:13] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52025 [11:04:41] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added some stub code in the SQLStore QueryEngine" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52388 [11:04:43] me and addsleeep did a database scan and estimate around 20 million pages need to be edited across all wikipedias :/ [11:04:57] eswiki has 900k [11:05:11] Jeblad_WMDE: you are going to get really fat if you eat all the chocolates now o_O [11:05:23] boxofjuice: That's #over9000! [11:05:29] hahaha [11:05:44] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikidata_migration/Progress [11:05:46] scary. [11:06:34] * jem- bookmarks [11:07:32] JeroenDeDauw: Starts to get sick now.. o_O [11:08:02] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 45769) make string datatype non-experimental" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52389 [11:08:37] Its a lot of wikipedians that is eger to start cleaning up articles now.. :D [11:08:57] They slowly starts to See The light™ [11:09:07] :D [11:11:48] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52367 [11:21:23] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52368 [11:26:18] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52369 [11:30:43] aude: do you happen to have a link for the changeset from last time with the evil license hack(™)? [11:32:29] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52370 [11:36:01] Sorry for spamming the channel, its JeroenDeDauw 's fault [11:37:18] Denny_WMDE: one sec... [11:37:23] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52388 [11:37:52] hi boxofjuice [11:38:11] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/49694/ [11:38:13] Denny_WMDE: ^ [11:38:21] aude: thx [11:39:04] maybe a simple thing to do is have (yet another) setting with this message key [11:39:17] default to the one in master, but we could override it [11:39:41] not sure it's a good solution though [11:40:30] there was some way how they do it for the license footer anyway [11:40:34] i will try to replicate this [11:43:00] ok [11:47:32] addshore: hi :) [11:47:39] New patchset: Aude; "make sort utils not static and move sort orders out of class" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52402 [11:47:44] my table alter is at 36% ... [11:47:50] heheh [11:47:52] im just gonna have to kill it I think.. [11:48:33] and add 1 or two more querys in other places S: [11:48:41] hmmm [11:48:54] did my drunked account creating work for you last night? :P [11:50:15] yup! [11:51:05] :D [11:52:08] New review: John Erling Blad; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52402 [12:02:46] * addshore has found a work around :P [12:04:30] boxofjuice: Im all ready :D [12:04:38] just need to add your new en dump to the db ;p [12:04:39] how? [12:05:36] I realised that my last alter to the table is redundant (checking for duplicates) as duplicates will be removed when one is loaded anyway. And sped up the sorting by not using my unindexed date but the id instead which is larger for the newest pages.. [12:06:33] * boxofjuice pretends he understood that [12:07:18] ;p so do I! xD [12:11:48] and it all works and is quick :) [12:13:40] arghhhh [12:13:44] i was importing categories [12:13:52] also boxofjuice did you scan he again yet? :D [12:13:55] no [12:13:58] dump isnt new i thought [12:14:11] my bot got stuck in a category loop :/ [12:14:16] I can make it skip the ones it has already edited though :) [12:14:28] so would be great if you could run that too :D [12:18:44] New patchset: Aude; "make sort utils not static and move sort orders out of class" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52402 [12:20:13] Tobi_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52402/ [12:20:24] that's the best place to put the sorting orders for now [12:20:37] and allow additional orders in the settings, if needed [12:20:50] (with tests...) [12:22:36] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Deployment_Questions <- could use some help translating this to more languages :) [12:23:20] Lydia_WMDE: Indeed! [12:35:16] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Fixing path to $.eachchange qunit tests" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51657 [12:37:39] New patchset: Denny Vrandecic; "Copyright notice on editing will use Wikidata license text if available" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52406 [12:38:39] aude or someone (Tobi_WMDE?, Jeblad_WMDE) : can someone check this https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52406/ ? [12:38:46] if it is ok it needs to be backported [12:38:52] if not i need to fix it asap [12:38:57] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51657 [12:39:29] it's tiny [12:39:59] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "$.eachchange: Allow attaching plugin to every input type" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51658 [12:52:31] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52351/ [12:52:37] Denny_WMDE: settings patch ^ [12:52:46] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51658 [12:52:47] boxofjuice: we are gettign there with en ;p http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata%3AWikidata_migration%2FProgress&diff=9793467&oldid=9789893 [12:52:57] heh [12:52:58] and it is still adding now :P [12:53:11] my bot died a while back [12:53:56] [06:53:47 AM] <+boxofjuice> !count Legobot@hu.wikipedia.org [12:53:57] [06:53:48 AM] Edit count: 8204 [12:53:58] im just trying to optimise bsql01 now for lots of requests and caching e.t.c :P [12:55:36] New review: John Erling Blad; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52406 [12:59:17] New patchset: Denny Vrandecic; "Copyright notice on editing will use Wikidata license text if available" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52406 [13:01:40] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52406 [13:07:58] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Copyright notice on editing will use Wikidata license text if available" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52409 [13:08:12] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52389 [13:08:31] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52409 [13:15:22] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Add dt/dd msgs for of the datatypes in Special:ListDatatypes" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47817 [13:27:00] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Fix for references counter behavior" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52410 [13:31:14] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/11182 [13:31:23] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49020 [13:31:31] real wikidata implementation in pywikipedia :) [13:35:58] Change abandoned: John Erling Blad; "Already fixed" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47037 [13:36:01] Lydia_WMDE: theres a small question about deployment time so we can be prepared for a influx of users on PC: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Last_check_Phase_I [13:37:32] boxofjuice: she's at lunch. to answer quickly: probably it will not be on time [13:37:37] but happen during the evening [13:37:43] into the night [13:37:48] which evening? :P [13:37:56] this [13:37:57] ill leave a comment indicating that much [13:38:00] European [13:38:08] ok thanks [13:38:35] depends especially on Reedy and what else needs to be deployed today [13:39:23] i said https://www.wikidata.org/?diff=9799122&oldid=9798308&rcid=9815233 [13:48:34] hey i can haz op in this channel plz? [13:49:21] nope [13:49:37] :c why not? [13:51:07] boxofjuice: who has op here / can give me op here? :( [13:51:14] idk [13:51:18] why does it matter? [13:51:52] rschen7754 Tiptoety are ops, but they cant give you op [13:52:40] boxofjuice: thx - looking in a bit [13:53:04] np :) [13:54:59] Hey all! I am about to install our branch for wmf11 on the test system. [13:57:01] boxofjuice: I want to change the topic - remove the link to the admin confirmations, add a !_admin stalkword note (since I figure we're important enough for that now) [13:57:08] oh [13:57:14] well then ask an op to do that [13:57:17] rschen7754: ^ [13:57:28] also, [13:57:33] stalk !_admin@wikidata [13:58:33] already stalking :) [13:58:49] #wikidata-admin is still alive? "This channel is invite-only. You must have an invite from an existing member of the channel to join." [13:58:51] oh... you can stalk something in only one channel? why did nobody tell me that?! lol [13:59:05] Stryn: hold on let me invite you! [13:59:24] ok, I was there yesterday, but today I was not able to come there [13:59:50] Stryn: try /cs invite #wikidata-admin [13:59:52] then try joining [14:00:13] oh yes, it worked, thanks [14:03:43] !_admin - testing somethign [14:03:52] oh wait that'll show up highlighted no matter what [14:04:18] ... [14:04:28] boxofjuice: test if for me please? with the _ I'll update my settings to drop the _ in a sec [14:04:34] *test it [14:04:38] !_admin@wikidata [14:05:06] but if someone just says !_admin, will that show up? [14:05:27] idk? [14:05:28] bbl [14:07:47] New patchset: Aude; "Add missing param for LangLinkHandler" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52413 [14:09:45] Change merged: Denny Vrandecic; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52413 [14:11:20] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 45037) show edit link only if we have repo links" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51179 [14:11:34] New review: Aude; "rebased" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51179 [14:12:53] New patchset: Aude; "Add missing param for LangLinkHandler" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52415 [14:13:43] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52415 [14:14:17] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52410 [14:22:33] me? [14:23:33] Change merged: Denny Vrandecic; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52402 [14:23:51] Tobi_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52402/ [14:31:33] CODE freeze is now, Jens is tagging. [14:37:37] btw we abandoned the plan to install wmf11 on the test system for the moment. [14:37:48] everything is the way it was [14:51:54] New patchset: Aude; "add fywiki sort order and allow custom order in settings" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52417 [14:54:29] New patchset: Aude; "add fywiki sort order and allow custom order in settings" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52417 [14:56:43] New patchset: Aude; "add fywiki sort order and allow custom order in settings" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52417 [15:01:21] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Rename CreateEntity and CreateItem to NewEntity and NewItem" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32921 [15:01:55] New patchset: Aude; "add fywiki sort order and allow custom order in settings" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52417 [15:02:03] hello wikidata. any intension to come over for demo time? [15:02:35] * aude doesn't know where demo time is? [15:03:03] I'll join in some minutes, still in my seminar [15:03:08] aude: behind you in the meeting space [15:03:11] hi AnjaJ_WMDE [15:03:24] hi aude [15:08:32] Silke_WMDE_, Abraham_WMDE: hab ihr 'nen hangout? [15:08:34] ich seh nix [15:08:47] hi DanielK_WMDE [15:08:51] hey aude! [15:08:57] DanielK_WMDE: ja [15:08:59] ja, ist im kalender verlinkt DanielK_WMDE [15:09:13] also im termin [15:09:31] DanielK_WMDE: hab dir den link geschickt im irc [15:09:33] Silke_WMDE_: ähm... nicht in dem termin den ich sehe... [15:09:43] einfach auf den link gehen [15:11:03] AnjaJ_WMDE: danke! [15:11:23] Silke_WMDE_, Abraham_WMDE: in dem termin aus abrahams kalender ist er drin, in dem termin im wikidata kalender ist er nicht drin [15:11:46] evtl mal den extra-termin entfernen und den von abfraham in den wikidata-kalender aufnehmen? [15:11:54] ähm [15:11:56] äh [15:12:07] "Warten auf Antwort des Google Talk-Plug-ins..." [15:12:18] ich versuch das jetzt nochmal mit chrome... [15:13:55] gah, now it wants to do the dual auth dance :/ [15:13:57] sorry [15:20:34] DanielK_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52346/ [15:20:50] DanielK_WMDE: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45761 [15:27:59] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Rename CreateEntity and CreateItem to NewEntity and NewItem" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32921 [15:49:24] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Rename CreateEntity and CreateItem to NewEntity and NewItem" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32921 [15:51:09] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52346 [15:55:36] New patchset: Aude; "Update hook to include site link widget in experimental mode" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52419 [15:55:42] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Rename CreateEntity and CreateItem to NewEntity and NewItem" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32921 [16:01:55] DanielK_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/51179/ [16:08:41] New review: Denny Vrandecic; "This needs to be discussed to compare it with the different ways data from Wikidata is accessed." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51977 [16:25:55] EMBED [16:31:52] Where can I find information about how sources are intended to work? [16:35:37] New patchset: Aude; "Check show wikibase preference for watchlist" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52421 [16:36:31] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 44973) Check show wikibase preference for watchlist" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52421 [16:38:25] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 44973) Check show wikibase preference for watchlist" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52421 [16:39:00] gnat, I just missed the times quoted [16:39:09] can somebody repeat that? [16:42:13] AnjaJ_WMDE: i assume 8pm [16:42:26] * aude shall go get sushi and then be home :) [16:43:18] * aude could be wrong but thinks Reedy is still in SF [16:48:56] For now our servers have to stay the way they are: test is on last week's tag [16:49:02] and dev on today's tag [16:49:30] updates: tomorrow [17:08:13] New review: Raimond Spekking; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32921 [18:04:28] aude: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45107 ?? [18:17:00] hoo: couldn't demo the experimental stuff but it is fixed [18:17:20] Why did Abraham reopen it then? [18:17:25] no idea [18:17:32] it should still be resolved, but not verified [18:17:58] I'm really surprised to see this, shouldn't happen with a more or less up to date core [18:17:58] Abraham_WMDE: ^ [18:18:14] hoo: ? [18:18:41] aude: I mean this bug shouldn't occur with the current Wikibase code unless you use a core from the middle ages [18:18:52] (where middle ages => 6 weeks ago or so) [18:18:57] the bug is not occurring [18:19:08] hoo: hi [18:19:15] I just realized that... sorry [18:19:54] we/I reopened that , to be aware of that for the next sprint [18:19:59] Abraham_WMDE: are we not doing resolved/fixed now? [18:20:06] then verified [18:20:22] we agreed, that it is not verified [18:20:29] but it's still fixed [18:20:32] and resolved [18:20:35] it is "open" [18:20:37] Sure, but it should be fixed as it is fixed [18:20:44] ok, if there is no work to be done [18:20:58] than we can set it back to fixed [18:21:03] it is very much fixed [18:22:03] * aude reviews settings for tonight again.... [18:22:09] Abraham_WMDE: It would be great to know on what exactly to work to get this non-experimental... the bugs left open are rather unclear (like "nicer" UI) [18:22:43] hoo: one thing i'm having trouble getting the edit token [18:22:55] it could be i'm doing things wrong, like in my settings [18:23:12] * aude been on vacation so didn't spend time on coding much [18:24:07] That could fail with certain set ups... shouldn't occur for the labs instances (I've patched the config of those) or if both wikis are on localhost [18:24:20] but I ofcourse couldn't test everything [18:28:42] hoo: if it's just the CORS stuff, then it might work now [18:28:46] on labs [18:29:02] It should but it's not active [18:29:10] * aude been puzzled and needs to debug what the issue is (me or something in the code) [18:29:16] aude: any sign of Reedy yet? [18:29:17] experimental features I mean [18:29:24] hoo: not sure about in labs [18:29:31] DanielK_WMDE: he's in SF, so no [18:29:46] right [18:29:59] i plan to be online from about 9pm cet [18:30:23] ok [18:31:23] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52351/ [18:31:25] Yup [18:31:31] DanielK_WMDE: in meantime, if you like to review the settings again [18:31:42] I would normally have hoped to be in the office an hour or so ago ;) [18:31:59] and reply to my comment, although we can defer changing the settings variable until next time [18:32:08] Reedy: ah, ok [18:35:07] aude: in the mean time, i'll put my kids to bed :) But i#ll have a look at the settings now, give me a sec [18:35:18] DanielK_WMDE: ok [18:35:49] * aude hopes the pywikipedia settings cover all the sort settings [18:36:01] that's what i based them on [18:39:58] aude, they will tell us if we missed sth [18:40:32] Denny_WMDE: sure [18:41:19] only issue could be fywiki sorting, which is handled in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52417/ [18:41:23] (not merged) [18:41:54] let us think about using a message instead anyway [18:41:55] if they complain enough, maybe we can test and backport it at some point or else they can wait until next time [18:42:01] Denny_WMDE: right [18:43:50] aude: doner [18:43:53] err [18:43:54] done :) [18:43:58] afk for an hour or so [18:44:53] DanielK_WMDE: thanks [18:45:09] namespaces default to everything, including talk pages [18:45:25] * aude hopes nobody uses wikidata for talk pages and think the community can work that out [18:45:36] e.g. like user pages are not acceptable [18:47:47] Project chat on that topic: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Inclusion_of_non-article_pages [18:50:09] could be make an edit filter to stop people from creating such links on WD? [18:50:13] *we [18:50:39] addshore: You mean towards specific namespaces like User: [18:50:48] yeee [18:50:52] I'm a bit unsure how to handle Anexo: namespace on es.wikipedia which seems to be a List: namespace [18:50:57] hmm [18:51:16] addshore: no [18:51:17] I haven't really looked at the variables that are availible for WD filters yet [18:51:19] its not safe [18:51:20] oh :< [18:51:30] take a look at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/User_pages [18:51:36] eg: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Especies_de_Myrcia [18:51:42] there are plenty of legit cases of the user space [18:52:45] not talk pages though..? [18:52:47] Is anything else needed bar config prior to deployment? [18:53:08] Reedy: don't think so [18:53:16] we'll do things in stages... [18:53:36] 1) update wikidata and en/he/it/hu wikis [18:53:43] 2) make sure all is good [18:53:50] I'll do the wmf10 -> wmf11 wiki migrations bar wikidata first [18:53:53] is en getting phase 2? [18:54:03] * boxofjuice thought it was just the 3 [18:54:14] boxofjuice: not yet [18:54:18] ok [18:54:21] no phase 2 on clients yet [18:54:33] 3) if all is good, then enable on other wikipedias [18:54:44] 4) if all is still good, then the dispatcher can be enabled [18:55:04] gotcha [18:56:16] Reedy: speaking of which, when ready, then 'wiki' => true should work to enable the entire "family" to have wikibase [18:56:33] right [18:57:15] good [18:57:27] * aude much rather not make a list of 300 wikis [18:58:07] the big settings change for wikidata will be the string property type [18:58:35] no settings changes for the clients, except for the new wikipedias [18:59:35] aude: some other sort order are also missing (not fywiki only) [19:01:12] I'm going to and get a DVI cable for this montior [19:01:33] Merlissimo: ? [19:02:08] * aude has srwiki done [19:12:43] aude: oh, i was thinking about sv, but that is wiktionary only [19:13:05] btw: why are you using pywikipedia a source for srwiki? [19:13:53] primary source is http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediawiki:Interwiki_config-sorting_order [19:13:59] ah, yes [19:14:21] that's what we plan to use soon. allow custom orders to be specified in messages like that [19:14:40] * aude hopes pywikipedia and the system message are not different [19:14:50] i am only talking about source comment [19:15:07] ah, ok [19:15:26] * aude used pywikipedia to determine prepend and which wikipedias get which sort order [19:15:31] aude: my bot creates http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:MerlIwBot/family.py automatically from local setting which is then copied by xqt to pwd source [19:15:49] nice [19:16:33] o.o [19:16:52] yes, nice workflow ;-) [19:17:07] it works :P [19:17:33] we'd welcome feedback on how to make it work better with wikidfata [19:17:36] wikidata [19:18:16] i am not sure the perfect place to put the sort orders, like commons ones (alphabetic) [19:18:23] it's wikimedia specific [19:20:51] maybe adding a mapping to source, so that they can be build automatically [19:21:28] maybe [19:21:36] it's like the interwiki table (and cache) [19:21:54] that's wikimedia specific too [19:28:35] aude: Just about done with "everything else" [19:28:39] ie non wikidata deploy stuff [19:28:50] Reedy: ok [19:29:29] * aude thinks the settings are ready for wikidata  [19:33:33] Ok, in what order do you want to do this? [19:34:01] hmmm, so the wikipedias are still on wmf10 [19:34:27] that means we can update wikidata to wmf11 (our branch) as step 1 [19:36:11] That's done [19:37:30] hmmm ok [19:37:54] now update the extension of wikidata.org to wmf11 [19:37:59] yep [19:37:59] it is? [19:38:02] * aude can do it [19:38:07] update the submodules [19:38:13] I did on monday [19:38:17] When I created the master fail [19:38:22] ah [19:38:31] well we had some backports so it needs updating again [19:38:43] and the settings [19:39:04] aha [19:39:51] * aude updating my submodules and can make a patch, if that helps [19:39:57] or fine if you do it [19:40:16] sure, if you've got the revisions to hand [19:40:20] ok [19:40:32] give me a minute.... [19:43:23] Are the configs as they are alright to push to site? [19:43:55] not yet [19:44:18] we didn't test it completely strings with the branch as it was on monday or not sure 100% [19:45:26] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52444/ [19:47:50] Reedy: one sec, got to update datavalues too [19:52:59] yes, datavalues needs to be updated too, definitively [19:53:08] just in wmf10? [19:53:18] heh, nope [19:53:19] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52444/ is ready for wmf11 [19:53:29] for wikidata [19:53:46] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52447/ will be step 2 (the current wikipedias) [19:57:09] aude: do I understand correctly that https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52351/ is supposed to introduce the new settings for the wikipedias we have already been deployed to, but not yet enable on all wikipedias? [19:57:46] DanielK_WMDE: one thing at a time, yet [19:57:52] let's make sure strings are good [19:58:25] and our code updates are good on en/it/he/hu wiki [19:58:43] aude: yes, of course. it's better to do it this way. [19:58:52] i was just making sure I understand the settings correctly [19:58:52] yep [19:58:57] you do [19:59:07] I'm not really fammiliar with the structure of the config [19:59:08] ok [19:59:16] i'll be doing reviews and stuff [19:59:19] ping me if you need me [19:59:26] ok, thanks [19:59:58] * aude thinks https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/51179/ is particularly importnat, though not urgent since we're deploying w/o it [20:00:11] * aude shall review the patch for auto summaries tomorrow [20:00:46] wmf11/wikidatawiki done [20:01:03] hmm [20:01:10] cannot see strings yet? [20:01:58] Denny_WMDE: it's oru settings [20:02:02] Denny_WMDE: "Foobar" [20:02:04] Reedy: you can deploy or settings change [20:02:12] ah ok, got it [20:02:36] * aude didn't want the strigns being enabled before the backports, in case of any issues with that [20:03:43] looks like we are updating the wikipedias now [20:03:56] it's slightly out of order but not a problem at all [20:04:12] the (none) should be gone [20:04:22] hm.. [20:04:36] not yet maybe [20:04:40] does wikidata work for you? [20:04:42] It's not yet [20:05:04] Tobi_WMDE: huh? [20:05:10] do you see an issue? [20:05:48] not sure.. wait [20:06:16] have you tried an item with statements? [20:06:43] trying [20:07:13] * aude struggles to find entity Congo ( the country) [20:07:19] I was getting JS errors multiple times on http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q13298 [20:07:23] config pushed [20:07:27] there's 2 congos [20:07:36] but it seems to be gone now, after >10 times of reloading [20:08:28] seems ok [20:08:34] Tobi_WMDE: might be the caches [20:08:43] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q110053 [20:08:47] hope so [20:09:09] uups [20:09:12] I'm getting an exception [20:09:19] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52450 [20:09:19] oh my [20:09:20] strings seem ok [20:09:23] Abraham: huh? [20:09:38] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3280854 [20:09:42] * aude testing there [20:09:43] aude: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q110053 [20:10:00] whoa [20:10:04] Denny_WMDE: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q110053 [20:10:09] how can we have a string too long? [20:10:48] aahhh [20:10:49] darn [20:10:53] my fault [20:10:54] clicking random, i don't see it [20:10:57] 42 characters? [20:11:01] only on that one [20:11:07] just needed to decide on sth [20:11:17] Denny_WMDE: can you fix? [20:11:21] yes [20:11:22] or tobi? [20:11:29] * aude not familiar enough with that piece of code [20:11:42] i think 99% of items are fine [20:11:51] but how can we have a string already that's too long? [20:12:00] because URLs are made up of strings [20:12:02] i forgot that [20:12:17] and commons media is made with URLs [20:12:25] ah [20:12:26] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q971 isn't loading right... [20:12:41] oh [20:12:47] it's stuck trying to load the properties (i.e. showing "$3") [20:12:57] ok, so can anyone do the change? [20:13:01] P.S. I gotta say, WD is quite an...interesting...project. [20:13:03] i am terrible with git [20:13:14] Oh [20:13:17] Maple__: we're currently in the middle of a software update [20:13:24] Message rebuild needed I guess [20:13:25] that's rpobably why you're seeing issues [20:13:47] it's in DataValues/includes/values/StringValue.php line 55-60 [20:13:53] Reedy: what's the https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52450/ (wikidata.dblist) for? [20:14:01] just change all three 42s to 250 [20:14:03] that should fix it [20:14:09] When I need to run a script over all wikis running wikidata stuff [20:14:10] Denny_WMDE: ok [20:14:22] Reedy: hmmm, ok [20:14:26] Like the sites table population [20:14:26] aude: you're doing it? [20:14:30] which still needs doing [20:14:33] ah, yes [20:14:35] yes yes yes [20:14:37] sorry, if i try to do the changes in git myself it will take longer than anything else :( [20:14:48] Hmm, ok. [20:14:52] Tobi_WMDE: i'm not [20:15:08] Tobi_WMDE: can you do it, please? [20:15:15] aude: Denny_WMDE: ok [20:15:18] thanks [20:15:21] thx [20:15:36] omg rschen7754 [20:15:43] you did that a second after i started the bot [20:15:45] lol [20:15:52] so i killed it to be safe [20:16:05] sorry lol [20:16:09] Denny_WMDE: aude: Ill do it right in the wmf11 branch, right? [20:16:19] yes [20:16:25] no worries, freak accident i guess [20:16:25] only there, it's not in master [20:16:28] Tobi_WMDE: that's fine [20:16:44] boxofjuice: that's why we take things step by step [20:16:52] Damn it [20:16:52] heheh [20:16:57] my bot loads all the steps at once [20:17:03] :o [20:17:25] 250 enough, you're sure? [20:17:48] * aude thinks it could be a bit more [20:18:27] 400? [20:18:35] how long can commons URLs get? [20:18:56] Denny_WMDE: File name can have up to 250 chars AFAIR [20:18:58] You are updating without setting the database in read only mode? [20:18:59] * names [20:19:00] 400 would be better [20:19:10] Jeblad_WMDE: that's normal [20:19:11] ok, 400 then [20:19:12] ok, setting it 400 [20:19:15] Jeblad_WMDE: yep [20:19:16] But me left, the band is playing [20:19:40] since it throws an exception... [20:19:50] better to be a little more generous [20:20:25] agree [20:21:21] * aude checking enwiki [20:21:46] (diff | hist) . . New York City (Q60); 15:15 . . Aude (talk | contribs) (3 changes) [20:21:46] looks good [20:21:51] * kteatime is with you in her mind! [20:22:05] although i only did 2 changes :o [20:22:15] i think it's been like that but a bug [20:22:45] aude: sudo -u apache foreachwikiindblist wikidata.dblist sql.php ~/sites.sql [20:22:46] ;) [20:22:54] Reedy: nice [20:23:33] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(hotfix) increasing string length limit from 42 to 400" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (mw1.21-wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52455 [20:24:31] Change merged: Denny Vrandecic; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (mw1.21-wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52455 [20:24:53] ok, update submodule [20:25:13] ok, Denny_WMDE is merging almost faster than I can switch tabs [20:25:25] :D [20:26:42] Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52456/ [20:26:45] * aude waits for jenkins [20:35:18] Ok, all tables populated [20:35:41] good [20:35:53] there are new tables? [20:36:07] boxofjuice: sites tables on wikipedias [20:36:14] oh ok [20:36:15] for interwiki stuff [20:36:30] Reedy: did you sync datavalues again? [20:36:36] Not yet [20:36:37] * aude still sees exception http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q110053 [20:36:38] ok [20:36:40] phew [20:36:41] It's only just given me my terminal back [20:36:48] ok, no problem [20:38:09] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(8 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51179 [20:38:21] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q110053 looks better [20:38:37] Tobi_WMDE: thx for the hotfix! [20:40:04] yep! works again [20:41:16] Good [20:41:26] DanielK_WMDE: thanks for code reviewing :) [20:41:37] Reedy: do all wikipedias have the correct schema for the job queue table now? some were using a varchar instead of a blob... [20:41:42] aude: yw [20:41:46] Uh [20:41:46] nfi [20:43:27] Do we know which wikis it was? [20:43:57] and recent changes rc_params [20:44:08] are they blobs? [20:44:34] enwiki and dewiki are blob on job_params [20:45:11] Didn't I fix rc_params? [20:45:17] Reedy: don't remember :/ [20:45:32] Reedy: so they should be. but before we roll out to all wikipedias, please make sure they are all fixed. [20:45:40] you fixed it on en [20:45:49] i don't know whether you fixed it everywhere [20:45:49] reedy@fenari:/home/wikipedia/common$ wc -l wikipedia.dblist [20:45:49] 286 wikipedia.dblist [20:45:51] :p [20:46:08] yep... [20:46:36] I wrote a script for this apparently [20:46:37] and it's still there [20:47:06] maybe you can adjust it to just check now [20:47:13] nothing to adjust [20:47:17] it counted before [20:47:43] excellent [20:47:57] I should commit that [20:48:17] * aude still sees (none) on enwiki  [20:48:21] probably. though it *should* never be needed again [20:48:39] * aude checking submodule [20:48:42] says 0 for rc+params [20:48:45] *rc+params [20:49:26] oh, right, it was rc_params, not the jq. sorry [20:49:43] ok, all good, then. [20:49:50] * aude doesn't remember anything about job queus :) [20:49:52] queus [20:49:54] queue [20:50:13] yea, i just got confused. [20:50:51] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52463/ [20:52:19] Reedy: nice [20:52:45] So, where are we upto [20:53:00] deploy client config before enabling it? [20:53:55] ok, not yet [20:55:00] * aude needs to see that the (none) links is not there anymore [20:55:59] Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'prototype' of undefined [20:56:05] i don't get that all the time but see an issue [20:56:12] mw.api.langlinks.js:4 [20:56:27] aude: Is enwiki on our wmf11? [20:56:31] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_T._Cahill?debug=true [20:56:34] hoo: yes [20:57:06] The (none) stuff is still there (for me) [20:57:14] me too [20:57:27] and wonder about the js error that i see occasionally now [20:57:44] oh, nevermind..... [20:57:46] aude: Do you see that on enwiki too? [20:57:53] it's my custom user script :D [20:57:57] * aude kills it [20:57:57] The CSS doesn't seem to get loaded, gr [20:58:28] still see the (none) on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_T._Cahill?debug=true [20:58:28] Before I start running my bots…has wikidata been officially rolled out to all 'pedias? [20:58:35] boxofjuice: please wait [20:58:40] will do [20:58:48] boxofjuice: i will post an email when it is all good to the mailing list [20:58:52] and a note to project chat [20:58:54] Tobi_WMDE: Yeah... for some reason the CSS isn't included [20:58:55] ok [21:00:38] Tobi_WMDE: Broken in wmf11 on my testing system as well, werid [21:00:40] * weird [21:00:43] but works on master [21:01:16] strange [21:01:42] hmm [21:01:50] Wait... there's gerrit/mw1.21-wmf11 and origin/mw1.21-wmf11 [21:02:47] aude: Any idea why that is? :/ [21:02:57] using different remotes [21:03:08] * aude trying on my test wiki [21:03:12] It's fine on origin and broken on gerrit [21:03:28] works on my wmf11 test wiki [21:03:49] it works for me locally on wmf11 [21:03:52] and master [21:04:15] is it the caches? [21:04:30] It's a new module so it shouldn't be [21:04:31] * aude trying to clear my caches [21:04:34] true [21:04:58] * aude sees (nessuna) on itwiki [21:05:10] :/ [21:06:24] wmf10 is at -8b1d018c8d29100beb1318d51e373fc0e0dc1c47 atm [21:06:44] that version works for me [21:06:49] Reedy: Is that deployed? [21:07:04] * Wikibase in wmf10 [21:07:05] hoo: should be ok [21:07:20] I've no idea [21:07:20] it's the right version [21:07:23] lol [21:07:53] * aude checks test2 [21:07:55] Yeah, that version definitely works... I just wonder whether enwiki really runs it [21:07:56] which is on wmf11 [21:08:13] Special:Version doesn't show the version :/ [21:08:38] https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/0.26498253335231803 [21:08:43] looks fine as example [21:09:12] test2 definitely has latest version of the branch [21:09:19] Yeah... so Reed.y's to blame over here (for not deploying) :P [21:11:15] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Version [21:11:20] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Version [21:11:25] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;h=41d424a5144d5833ed68f0baea8354cd7a0d9481 [21:11:28] that's what's deployed [21:11:36] Doing numerous things does get confusing [21:11:59] gitweb is slow as hell :/ [21:12:08] * hoo looks locally [21:12:18] * boxofjuice uses github instead of gitweb [21:12:23] that was maxsem's thing [21:12:29] Reedy: no problem [21:12:40] -972a2ac0a3bce9e4252ea044c23e438901a3e14a extensions/Wikibase [21:13:53] That's broken for me... so we're definitely innocent :P [21:16:34] Right, wmf10 confirmed re-updated and pushed [21:16:35] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;h=41d424a5144d5833ed68f0baea8354cd7a0d9481 [21:16:43] MySQL5.5.29-MariaDB-mariadb1~precise-log :D [21:16:55] * aude enjoys seeing mariadb there [21:17:09] It's apparently making quite a difference :) [21:17:20] looks better [21:17:34] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maculatifrons [21:17:37] for example [21:17:57] " <0> " oO [21:18:04] hoo: saw that one one page [21:18:06] one page [21:18:13] I didn't consider that case :/ [21:18:13] some cache issue? [21:18:34] No [21:18:34] guys sorry... [21:18:38] but... [21:18:39] I've not run scap [21:18:48] I've removed the message with "none" [21:18:51] what in the name of sanity is happening to wikilinks? [21:18:59] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elezioni_politiche_italiane_del_2013 [21:19:06] That's why it's going crazy [21:19:36] :o [21:19:41] Reedy: ^ [21:20:05] Presumably that's wikibase? [21:20:07] how are we getting elwiktionary , etc in interwikis [21:20:16] lawikiquote [21:20:32] enwiki looks fine [21:20:37] what the?? [21:21:12] its' like random [21:21:15] wikibooks [21:21:16] Memcache artifacts again? I doubt it :/ [21:21:42] Oh, I wonder [21:21:52] and the few interlinks are wrong too [21:22:21] katie, even an idea?? (wondering) [21:22:34] no [21:22:39] I've got one [21:22:43] Is there a way to get it to repull them? [21:22:56] Reedy: action=purge does that [21:22:57] we can purge [21:23:04] doesn't seem to make any difference [21:23:09] SannitAway: thx for bringing it up! [21:23:11] https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elezioni_politiche_italiane_del_2013&action=history [21:23:14] * aude did edit [21:23:26] on my test2wiki account [21:24:00] aude: looking at it, did it work? [21:24:42] huwiki looks fine [21:24:44] he and hu wiki look fine [21:25:05] Reedy: mysql> SELECT * FROM iwlinks WHERE iwl_from = 4334281; [21:25:08] that looks weird [21:25:14] (on itwiki_p) [21:25:34] :o [21:25:37] What looks weird about it? [21:25:46] I don't normally look at the iwlinks table [21:25:53] | 4334281 | n | Pagina_principale | [21:26:02] iwl_prefix n [21:26:05] TWICE [21:26:40] other pages on itwiki look fine [21:26:46] UNIQUE KEY `iwl_from` (`iwl_from`,`iwl_prefix`,`iwl_title`), [21:26:46] UNIQUE KEY `iwl_prefix_title_from` (`iwl_prefix`,`iwl_title`,`iwl_from`) [21:27:02] unique key is not unique? [21:27:03] Oh, I'm totally wrong, duh [21:27:24] duh, it's fine with the last col [21:27:25] What? [21:27:41] Forget everything I've said :P [21:27:47] on which pages on itwiki does this happen? it's not on all [21:28:07] SannitAway: Did you find any other pages with the problem? [21:28:27] aude: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graz [21:28:32] Reedy: checking [21:28:48] Tobi_WMDE: looks fine [21:28:56] aude: Is it maybe pulling the global id of a random wiki by lang? [21:29:12] So like one wiki which is in pt [21:29:13] Reedy: sorry, bloody connection doesn't work good tonight [21:29:18] hoo: shouldn't be at all [21:29:32] ll_lang is showing cs_wiktionary etc [21:29:40] Sure, this *shouldn't* happen [21:29:42] Should I just delete all the langlinks for that page? [21:30:00] hmm, when you delete the content of the page, it actually looks fine [21:30:02] Reedy: everything seems alright in other articles [21:30:13] just that article seems to be gone crazy [21:30:22] Reedy: Purging will probably restore the broken ones [21:30:23] maybe something pulling in from a template [21:30:36] I'm gonna delete it's langlinks entry [21:30:38] entries [21:30:41] mmm, ok [21:30:41] aude: not for me. I have the werd links on http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graz [21:30:58] Tobi_WMDE: WFM [21:31:02] it looks good now [21:31:11] what? [21:31:16] graz looks fine [21:31:22] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elezioni_politiche_italiane_del_2013 [21:31:25] ^ Is now fixed [21:31:31] Denny_WMDE: It works for me in preview all the time (with and w/o text) [21:31:32] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elezioni_politiche_italiane_del_2013 is good [21:31:37] confirmed [21:31:41] looks good now :S [21:31:43] weird [21:32:04] http://p.defau.lt/?AJBWQMxJZZhCA9kVQUgCtw [21:32:12] well, let's say it was due to caching [21:32:16] Heh [21:32:17] it is usually due to caching [21:32:25] * aude clicks special:random [21:32:26] If you find any other weird problems, I'll do the same for other articles [21:32:30] Shall we carry on? ;) [21:32:43] yes! :) [21:32:51] keep calm and... [21:33:00] drop the langlinks table [21:33:02] drink Club Mate [21:33:02] * hoo hides [21:33:10] heh [21:33:21] Denny_WMDE: aude: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B75GR2jZtucSaDdSeURNb0lUeUU/edit?usp=sharing [21:33:28] proof [21:33:38] :D [21:33:44] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52450/ [21:33:46] i believe ya. i saw it on the elections [21:33:47] Shall i merge that then? [21:33:50] funny it was graz :) [21:34:00] aude? [21:34:02] Reedy: Can you hold on for a second [21:34:16] Not sure how many messed langlinks we have on it [21:34:40] its gone after a purge [21:34:53] Damn toolserver -.- [21:35:17] * aude looking [21:35:21] eg. https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles [21:35:23] Tobi_WMDE: The database looks sane for that extension anyway [21:35:30] mysql> SELECT COUNT(*) FROM langlinks WHERE ll_lang LIKE "%wikibooks"; [21:35:34] 21016 [21:35:43] i can't imagine how [21:35:50] How can that happen [21:36:04] Let's kill them all [21:36:06] Reedy: 'wiki' => true means "all wikipedias"? how does this work, is this a suffix match? [21:36:29] DanielK_WMDE: it's the database or site group [21:36:33] ^ [21:36:45] can we call it fixed or...? [21:36:46] but just wikipedias [21:36:55] got impatient people on #wikipedia-it :P [21:37:03] Reedy: mediawiki.org is in a different site group, right [21:37:05] I'm killing the wikibooks langlinks [21:37:07] it's special wikis [21:37:08] Yeah [21:37:32] Reedy: Those aren't the only ones... we got source and quote and ... [21:37:33] * aude tries firefox [21:37:44] wikivoyage everything i saw [21:38:04] Reedy: so any settings for "tawiki" will also match "metawiki"? ugh :) [21:38:13] No [21:38:23] good :) [21:38:44] Database locked [21:38:47] oO [21:39:01] I'm probably causing replag deleting the wrong langlinks [21:39:35] Yeah [21:39:57] o_O [21:40:07] hm, do we need to do that now? [21:40:12] wiki13: wait don't delete that "Peris" duplicate [21:40:32] DanielK_WMDE: Purge doesn't seem to work every time [21:40:36] too late... i just did it Pink|TV [21:40:51] Wiki13: they're in different counties [21:41:11] ah! [21:41:34] There are two "Paris" in the same US state? really? wow... [21:42:28] DanielK_WMDE: they're in Romania [21:42:42] and it's "Periş" [21:42:52] Ah :) [21:42:54] DanielK_WMDE: https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQJrPtPdrQgq75f2ngClWSZGtAHxLawdxqHw97y3MFXvvlx1bmc [21:43:01] * DanielK_WMDE just thought of how many "Mühlheim" there are in Germany [21:43:05] PinkAmpersand: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2294074&action=history can you restore the good version there? [21:43:14] That's them all killed in itwiki now [21:43:31] are there any in enwiki huwiki hewiki? [21:43:35] Wiki13: will do. no objections to me restoring the other one? [21:43:41] i didn't see any issues but could just be me [21:43:44] just because no one complained doesnt mean they dont exist, right? :P [21:43:52] didn't really see in itwiki either except the one page, though [21:43:54] One way to find out [21:44:01] yep [21:44:08] DanielK_WMDE: there's like 16 "Springfield"s in America [21:44:12] That's a lot of simpsons [21:44:16] * aude pops into the enwiki irc channel [21:44:25] aude: There were several... The Beatles, Asterik, the page mentioned above... popular articles altogether [21:44:25] huwiki looks clean [21:44:28] quiet there.... [21:44:45] hoo: those looked fine to me [21:44:47] on purge, etc. [21:44:50] or no purge [21:44:53] huwiki is clean [21:44:57] what about ~130 Lhota in Czech Republic? http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lhota_(rozcestn�k) [21:44:58] thanks [21:45:04] aude: weird, they were broken for me [21:45:08] it's hard to debug when i don't see the problem [21:45:23] hewiki is clean also [21:45:26] It's fine for me now [21:45:27] good [21:45:38] the (none) thingy is gone on en now as well :) [21:45:47] hoo: good [21:45:50] Reedy: when the Simpsons Movie came out there was a contest to see which Springfield would be the site of the premiere [21:45:54] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Rewrite of rebuildTermSearchKey" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51847 [21:46:04] SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [21:46:12] ...... [21:46:18] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Rewrite of rebuildTermSearchKey" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51847 [21:46:48] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Rewrite of rebuildTermSearchKey" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51847 [21:47:30] SannitAway: do things look better now? [21:49:23] aude: so it seems [21:49:26] Good [21:49:38] tonight the abhorrent rule of the language links will finally come to its well deserved end [21:50:03] Kill them all with fire :)) [21:50:25] SannitAway: hmmm, ok [21:50:29] weird [21:51:02] Denny_WMDE: \o/ [21:51:31] Denny_WMDE: ? [21:52:13] Since we move wikidata to s5 my stats on TS fail :/ [21:52:16] * moved [21:52:28] i know SannitAway, Italy has been free for weeks :) [21:52:29] Are we carrying on then? [21:52:49] oh [21:52:53] WOW [21:53:11] I totally forgot about it \o/ [21:53:57] * aude thinks we're good [21:54:19] * aude goes to find another wikipedia to edit :D [21:55:07] aude: For the "we had success" blog post? [21:55:21] hoo: heh [21:55:23] for testing [21:55:26] We're live.. [21:55:27] * aude on arwiki :D [21:55:34] arwiki :P [21:55:37] Why not dewiki? [21:55:46] More interesting [21:55:53] Die Deutsche ist sehr langweilig. [21:55:58] working on all Wikipedias? [21:56:01] Should be [21:56:07] abwiki! [21:56:08] DELETE ALL THE INTERWIKIS [21:56:29] * hoo yays [21:56:39] woo hoo [21:56:47] ops, sorry hoo [21:56:55] :D I'm used to that [21:57:00] ويكيدابات [21:57:01] that doesn't look right: [21:57:02] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staatspolizeileitstelle_Hamburg [21:57:04] it works [21:57:07] <0> [21:57:11] http://ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%86%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%83_(%D9%85%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%A9)&stable=0&shownotice=1 [21:57:41] naddy: < means we need to rebuild the message cache [21:57:43] first edit on Polish Wikipedia: http://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maria_Sk%C5%82odowska-Curie&diff=35022709&oldid=34987010 [21:57:43] I'll start that now [21:57:47] Reedy: no [21:57:50] Wont work [21:57:58] ? [21:58:06] no $ [21:58:07] lols [21:58:11] We don't have a message there anymore and the skins are going crazy over that [21:58:12] https://ab.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%B0%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B0 yay! [21:58:41] yay Wikidata works on de.wp [21:58:46] :D [21:58:56] aude: Do you think this needs to be hot fixed or shall we wait for the caches to clear? [21:59:12] hoo: not sure [21:59:24] reedy can try rebuliding it [21:59:34] not sure that fixes it though [22:00:00] JeroenDeDauw: 43 DatabaseBase->reportQueryError('Table 'commonsw...', 1146, 'SELECT site_id...', 'ORMTable::rawSe...', false) [22:00:07] I blame you [22:00:08] ;D [22:00:22] aude: It wont [22:00:24] hang on [22:00:36] hoo: ok [22:00:37] aude: on https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staatspolizeileitstelle_Hamburg, I'm not seeing "edit links". well, i see it on the edit page, but not on the normal page view [22:00:45] hmmm [22:00:59] Commons seems unhappy [22:01:02] http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%83_(%D9%85%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%A9) looks good [22:01:11] ::| [22:01:14] commons? [22:01:17] Why has commons got wikibase? [22:01:22] aude: looks like of there is only one langlink (the one to the present language), the link is missing [22:01:33] it shouldn't [22:01:42] aude: please make sure to cover this case correctly in the new implementation also! [22:01:49] New patchset: Hoo man; "Hotfix for <0> in language urls" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52531 [22:01:51] aude: ^ [22:01:53] DanielK_WMDE: i think it's always been like that, then? [22:02:05] aude: could be. it's a bug though, and not a nice one. [22:02:06] Oh ffs [22:02:06] doesn't mean we shouldn't fix [22:02:10] DanielK_WMDE: Damn it [22:02:16] Seems 'wiki' does include commons and meta :| [22:02:23] Reedy: yikes! [22:02:24] Reedy: ugh. [22:02:31] Reedy: and maybe mediawiki.org? [22:02:34] :( [22:02:37] so we have to list 300 wikis! [22:02:44] Nope [22:02:45] or maker a new dblist [22:02:45] is there any other way [22:02:47] Let's fix it properly [22:02:51] or do 'commonswiki' => false [22:02:57] hoo: then metawiki [22:02:58] then.. [22:03:00] true [22:03:00] Reedy: careful. things depend on that [22:03:01] DanielK_WMDE: I created a "wikidata" dblist before [22:03:10] aude was confused why ;) [22:03:21] Reedy: well we don't want wikidatawiki in the client list [22:03:21] Reedy: yea, that'll do. just don't remove these wikis from the wiki(pedia) group [22:03:34] in my test setup i have client.dblist [22:03:40] oh, right! [22:03:44] the repo mustn't be in there [22:03:54] that's cause breakage [22:03:58] that'll [22:04:00] aude: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52531 that's going to remove the <0>... the empty section shouldn't be to much of a problem (and that's only an issue until the CSS is recached) [22:04:01] yikes [22:04:18] let me hack it to tidy up [22:04:20] then we'll sort properly [22:04:23] http://wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Version :o [22:04:38] ffs [22:04:42] i don't think it'd horribly break but not really cool [22:05:09] hi [22:05:14] * Reedy syncs dblists [22:05:15] I can safe property [22:06:06] " Show Wikidata edits in recent changes" is on specieswiki too [22:06:16] ick [22:06:19] Reedy: ^ [22:06:26] whats wrong than? It offers to add property sais what will happen after saving, but no way so save it [22:06:34] Yes [22:06:35] I'm fixing it [22:06:52] $dbSuffix = ( $site === 'wikipedia' ) ? 'wiki' : $site; [22:07:24] Juandev: hold on, we are in the middle of fixing an issue with the latest deployment [22:07:47] Juandev: might be related. probably not, but later is a better time anyway :) [22:07:51] DanielK_WMDE: OK, I am going to sleep than. Have fun [22:08:03] Right [22:08:06] It's now not enabled everywhere [22:08:10] Juandev: ok. do report the issue if it remains, though [22:08:14] DanielK_WMDE: so you know it I dont need to fill bugzilla [22:08:21] rschen7754: question, how does one edit wikidata? if I go to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q143925 I can't find an edit tab or button, had to revert from the history... [22:08:25] :-) [22:08:26] Juandev: no, that doesn't work. [22:08:28] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52531 [22:08:35] next time [22:08:40] but you can ping me about it tomorrow. [22:08:43] right [22:09:05] QueenOfFrance: hold on, hot fixing in progress... [22:09:33] DanielK_WMDE: ah, so it's a temporary thing -- thanks, my first attempt at editing wikidata so I assumed it was normal :D [22:09:45] New patchset: Aude; "Hotfix for <0> in language urls" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52533 [22:09:59] QueenOfFrance: or you have JavaSCript turned off. Wikidata can't (yet) be edited without JavaSCript [22:10:11] QueenOfFrance, ill talk to you on -stewards ;p [22:10:13] Two minutes age was link to wikidata on cs, but now not? [22:10:38] JAnDm: hold on, hot fixing in progress... [22:10:44] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf11) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52533 [22:12:23] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52534 [22:12:24] Fixed up now [22:12:31] OK, I just found a bug so, I will fill this also than [22:13:26] JAnDm: i will send a message to village pumps when everything is settled [22:14:09] aude: People are complaing about the 0 thingy... are you going to push it into core wmf10 and let Reed.y deploy, please? [22:14:27] * hoo has no idea how to update submodules properly [22:14:37] and there's no how to for that [22:14:59] hoo: doing [22:16:05] hoo: visit the folder, checkout the revision [22:16:10] go up 2 levels and commit [22:16:26] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52536/ [22:16:30] hoo: Reedy [22:16:40] Reedy: I have to init the submodule first? [22:16:45] yeah [22:16:53] ah, ok [22:17:11] * aude checks out all submodules [22:19:18] * hoo can merge on master but not on the wmf branches... weird [22:19:30] hoo: no, normal [22:19:30] hoo: branches are special [22:19:41] deployment group [22:20:03] hoo: the wmf branchs determin what is getting *deployed*. that's a level up from merging to master. [22:20:58] mh [22:21:14] superpowers :) [22:21:21] But you can at least propose the changes [22:21:28] yes [22:22:15] CORS on the live sites seems awry [22:22:52] :/ [22:23:30] hoo: for the widget, i think we'll make a config option to enable it and then have it on test2 initially once out of experimental [22:23:39] The headers are all right, but it serves me logged out [22:23:40] so we can test with CORS [22:23:49] You can already on the live wikis with mw.loader.load( 'wbclient.linkItem' ); [22:23:54] true :) [22:25:10] I'll debug that in the next days... [22:25:34] hoo|away: that's what i get on my test wikis and wikidata test wikis [22:25:38] no matter what i do [22:25:43] :/ [22:25:54] that's why it's hard for me to help coding on it [22:26:00] * aude shall debug too [22:26:02] I see [22:26:18] with my user scripts, i seem to get edit token [22:26:21] Fiddler is great for debugging such stuff ;) [22:26:27] * aude shall poke more [22:26:31] I run it in an Windows VM [22:26:36] ah [22:27:37] aude: I only need people to tell me what to do/ what's broken and I can take a look [22:27:47] sure [22:27:59] sadly the current bug reports are like "make it better somehow" and not very descriptive [22:28:02] yeah [22:28:33] not 100% it's the way i'mdoing settings or not [22:28:49] and test wikidata is done same way i do things [22:29:12] It should work on the labs instances now [22:29:17] I didn't test it tough [22:29:20] it doesn't [22:29:29] for which reason? [22:29:43] * aude tries again [22:31:25] Reedy: DanielK_WMDE so the clients look okay to me [22:31:40] excellent! [22:32:02] Might be able to get off my chair in a bit and possibly find some food [22:32:34] can someone give me a status update? i'm a bit lost at what is left to do now [22:32:53] * hoo|away is off for real now [22:32:53] so, dispatching? enabled? [22:33:02] cu hoo|away [22:33:06] that's the last thing, but if you want food, go ahead :) [22:33:15] thanks hoo|away for helping out [22:33:20] Oh, despatching [22:33:30] aude: dispatching will happen based on clientDbList. [22:33:30] can i send stuff to village pumps? or should i wait? [22:33:33] DanielK_WMDE: yes [22:33:36] aude: so, I suppose it should be enabled. With a single worker it might be slow, though [22:33:38] which includes only wikipedas [22:33:44] wikipedias [22:33:57] * aude not sure how many cronjobs we want? [22:34:03] aude: oh, and the backlog might be a bit large :/ [22:34:05] we can try one to start [22:34:10] oh, yeah [22:34:12] we could have killed old stuff from the changes table first [22:34:28] we faked it last time [22:34:36] heh [22:34:45] oh, it shoudl be ok maybe [22:34:58] i remember we were dispatching to enwiki for a couple days while the client was off [22:35:07] that was part of the issue there [22:35:51] can i send stuff to village pumps? or should i wait? [22:35:58] What sort of stuff? [22:36:17] Do we want to change anything for the despatching then? [22:36:33] Reedy: notification that wikidata phase 1 is live [22:36:52] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52540/ [22:36:58] and links to help pages and things [22:36:59] Reedy: I guess we could just delete oldish entries from wb_changes on the repo [22:37:05] to enable dispatching when ready [22:37:12] DanielK_WMDE: sounds good [22:37:14] Reedy: anything older than an hour is probably safe [22:37:16] we could run pruning? [22:37:23] manually? [22:37:30] aude: pruning will kjeep at least one day [22:37:38] can't we specify params? [22:37:40] the script takes days as a param [22:37:44] ugh [22:37:51] complain to john :) [22:37:52] ok, well we can to it manually [22:37:57] yea [22:38:05] * Lydia_WMDE will go ahead and push buttons in 10 mins [22:38:12] if we are too harsh, we may ignore some updates that are still pending on enwiki or so [22:38:17] but, well... so what [22:38:22] not a huge problem [22:38:25] indeed [22:38:41] aude: i say 1 hour is safe, 10 minutes is probably still safe. [22:38:44] what do you say? [22:38:59] * aude thinks nobody will notice [22:38:59] :P [22:39:00] 15 min? [22:39:03] sure [22:39:13] Could do it in stages [22:39:29] like how? [22:39:35] sql queries? [22:39:39] scap just finished [22:39:40] oh, sure [22:39:53] hm? i don't follow [22:40:00] but we can actually do it "right" [22:40:16] DELETE FROM wb_changes where change_time < now() - some time [22:40:25] meh, whatever. Tell me what you want to run :p [22:40:30] heh [22:40:47] Reedy: select min(chd_seen) from wb_changes_dispatch where chd_site in ("enwiki", "itwiki", "huwiki", "hewiki") [22:41:17] Reedy: anything with an ID smaller than the number you get can go from wb_changes. [22:41:18] 8797710 [22:42:07] 182,720 rows deleted [22:42:27] hm, we could make our prune script work based on min(chd_seen). Would remove any means of recovering after de-sync, but it's not a critical replication anyway. [22:42:31] Reedy: \o/ [22:42:48] Reedy: actually, that sounds like a lot. can you verify that the prune script is in cron and working? [22:42:51] does it have a log? [22:42:56] I think it does log [22:43:08] i am not surprised [22:43:15] Busy editors are busy ;) [22:43:21] bots are busy [22:43:23] 180k edits in a day? or how many days do we keep? 2? [22:43:29] hm, i guess [22:43:45] command => "/usr/local/bin/mwscript extensions/Wikibase/repo/maintenance/pruneChanges.php --wiki wikidatawiki --number-of-days=1 2>&1 >> /var/log/wikidata/prune.log", [22:44:10] maybe it hasn't run in like 47 hours [22:44:18] err. 23 hours [22:44:20] The log showed it edited at 22:30 [22:44:28] * aude don't know [22:44:30] 22:30:01 pruning entries older than 2013-03-05T22:30:01Z [22:44:31] 22:30:01 2088 rows pruned [22:44:31] 22:30:01 done, exiting [22:44:36] huh [22:45:15] 2088 seems very small [22:45:19] indeed [22:45:29] it just pruned 0 rows at 22:45 [22:45:37] o_O [22:45:37] It runs every 15 minutes [22:45:42] oh [22:45:46] Last few entries before were 2000-2500 [22:45:53] minute => [0,15,30,45], [22:45:58] makes more sense [22:46:06] 10k an hour [22:46:13] 240k a day [22:46:20] sounds about right [22:46:21] then ~10000 per hour [22:46:42] Reedy: watch for breakage caused by jobs in client wikis trying to load the changes we just kileld from the db [22:46:50] i think we fixed that, but who knows. [22:47:55] job queue logs look fine [22:48:00] just getting a total length of the job queue [22:48:48] 4341640 [22:49:16] https://gdash.wikimedia.org/dashboards/jobq/ [22:49:26] Reedy: that'S the total for all wikis? [22:49:30] yup [22:49:30] Reedy: can you get that per job type? [22:49:45] I'm only interested in ChangeNotification jobs [22:50:38] yeah, just changed the script... [22:50:40] but... well, i guess that spike was us [22:51:04] seems like it was already dealt with by the time we pruned the changes table [22:51:23] * aude bookmarks that page [22:52:08] Most of them look to be refreshLinks [22:53:15] CONGRATS!!!! =) [22:53:26] Reedy: yea, quite possibly triggered by the ChangeNotifications. oh, well. [22:53:41] yurik: thanks :) [22:53:55] As long as they're being dealt with, it should be alright [22:54:09] right [22:54:20] yurik: thanks :) [22:54:32] aude, Reedy: so... time to celebrate? [22:54:44] * yurik pops shampaign [22:54:57] * Reedy hands yurik a c [22:55:10] Wikidata Phase 1 ist hier :D [22:55:10] If it's been confirmed working on the other client wikis.. [22:55:11] i don't want c, i want c# [22:55:15] says Lydia_WMDE [22:55:26] * aude checkign my dewiki watchlist [22:55:43] ruwiki works [22:55:45] just checked [22:55:56] once i see stuff in my watchlist and recent changes, then i'm happy [22:56:29] noooow... can we have that new API speced out...? Someone already volunteered to implement the search :D [22:56:44] Can someone fix search on wikimedia first? [22:56:59] Reedy: you mean search in wikidata? [22:57:08] Generally [22:57:13] i think its FUBR... [22:57:21] (diff | hist) . . McMurdo Dry Valleys (Q571433); 17:53 . . Aude (talk | contribs) (Language link added: ca:Les Valls Seques) [22:57:30] that's enwiki so it's still working and pretty quick [22:57:32] Yay, change notification jobs showing for dewiki, iswiki, eswii [22:57:35] *eswiki [22:57:45] rowiki [22:57:48] * aude waiting for dewiki [22:58:02] 2013-03-06 22:56:57 mw1016 dewiki: ChangeNotification Spezial:ChangeNotificationJob repo= changeIds=array(1000) STARTING [22:58:16] yeah, that's not finished yet ;) [22:58:45] ok [22:59:15] oh, it did [22:59:18] PinkAmpersand: you're the best :) [22:59:19] too many lines [22:59:20] Interwikis raus, durch WP:Wikidata obsolet [22:59:22] nawiki [22:59:23] miwiki [22:59:24] editors are busy [22:59:24] kjwiki [22:59:25] chywiki [22:59:31] I think this is working :D [22:59:36] pagwiki [22:59:38] SPAAAM [22:59:46] bpywiki [22:59:47] guwiki [22:59:49] yay [22:59:51] fowiki [22:59:53] Lydia_WMDE: awww thanks! <3 I got lucky... I only go to PC like once a day, and it was exactly a minute after you posted. [22:59:53] xalwiki [22:59:55] anwiki [22:59:57] extwiki [23:00:02] PinkAmpersand: :D [23:00:07] FYI: So far so good on ptwiki. Although I don't see wikidata changes on my WatchList at ptwiki (yet?) [23:00:22] helderwiki: it lags behind a bit [23:00:34] I'm not sure I've seen a ptwiki job yet [23:00:53] uh... [23:00:53] Lydia_WMDE, ok then. [23:01:01] Reedy, Lydia_WMDE, aude: I'm seeing JS breakage on the repo. [23:01:08] Link? [23:01:09] * aude still waiting [23:01:11] :o [23:01:14] -.- [23:01:14] where? [23:01:16] might be caused by it temporarily also getting client stuff [23:01:23] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1490 [23:01:30] i'm getting the JS-less interface. [23:01:32] shouldn't interact [23:01:38] havn't investigated yet [23:01:44] my guess: bad JS stuck in squids [23:01:50] caused by loading repo *and* client js there [23:01:53] * aude doesn't see issues [23:02:03] yeah that could be confusing [23:02:05] yea, probably just stuck in *some* squids [23:02:13] I see no JS problems at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q11348?debug=1 [23:02:17] thank you people :D, It working on fawiki [23:02:18] Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'match' of undefined [23:02:19] Reloading isn't fun with firebug [23:02:25] consistent with earlier reports here in the channel [23:02:27] I see it in incognito [23:02:31] couldn't reproduce then, but see it now, [23:02:37] DanielK_WMDE: : got the same in the minutes after deployment, but went away after some reloading.. [23:02:51] pouyana: \o/ :) [23:02:57] aude: :D [23:03:01] Tobi_WMDE: yep, ctrl-shift-r fixed it after the second try [23:03:14] Reedy: can we purge the broken JS? [23:03:38] how long until it's phased out? [23:03:53] Lydia_WMDE: so "string" is the same as "StringValue", right? [23:04:09] PinkAmpersand: uhhhh i am not sure - where is StringValue? [23:04:22] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending#Awaiting_StringValue_datatype [23:04:34] jep [23:04:40] those are all good now [23:04:50] PinkAmpersand: iirc, "string" is the type identifier of the data type implemented by the PHP class called StringValue [23:04:52] so, yes. [23:04:52] kk [23:05:02] double kk [23:05:17] :) [23:05:19] ok i am signing off [23:05:22] exciting! :D [23:05:25] Denny_WMDE: good night [23:05:27] great work everyone, thank you! [23:05:42] thanks everyone! [23:05:45] i'll be awake for another 2h i think and skip daily tomorrow [23:05:46] * aude waiting on my watchlist [23:05:51] this was awesome, let's do this again :P [23:06:02] tomorrow's daily is optional [23:06:11] i said it already, but didnt send an email around [23:06:25] * aude going to government offices tomorrow [23:06:30] Denny_WMDE: should i? [23:06:41] thanks, Lydia_WMDE, please yes [23:06:41] Lydia_WMDE: if anyone complains about not being able to edit (aka broken JavaSCript), tell them to (hard) reload until it works (or just be patient) [23:06:44] k [23:06:52] DanielK_WMDE: k [23:06:56] How to add source to property? [23:07:15] * aude wonders if we need multiple dispatcher cron jobs? [23:07:16] if I add link in the edit field, the Save button is inactive [23:07:22] or i'm just impatient :P [23:07:28] Ahonc: there's an "add source" link. but a source an only be a single value at the moment [23:07:37] I've just touched some stuff [23:07:40] * DanielK_WMDE feels a generic "source" property emerging. [23:07:43] I think it should only cache for around 15 minutes [23:07:48] Reedy: thanks [23:08:04] i wonder if stuff gets pruned before it gets dispatched? [23:08:15] errr... it prunes stuff a day old [23:08:24] * aude patient [23:08:53] aude: at a guess, it should take an average of 5 minutes for a change to propagate (after the backlog is gone). [23:09:21] aude: after it propagates, it still needs to be processed by the local job queue. that may take additional minutes. [23:09:29] sure [23:10:09] reedy@fluorine:/a/mw-log$ tail -n 100000 runJobs.log | grep -i ChangeNotification | grep dewiki [23:10:10] reedy@fluorine:/a/mw-log$ tail -n 1000000 runJobs.log | grep -i ChangeNotification | grep dewiki [23:10:10] 2013-03-06 22:56:57 mw1016 dewiki: ChangeNotification Spezial:ChangeNotificationJob repo= changeIds=array(1000) STARTING [23:10:10] 2013-03-06 22:56:59 mw1016 dewiki: ChangeNotification Spezial:ChangeNotificationJob repo= changeIds=array(1000) t=2138 good [23:10:11] 5 minutes on average because it takes roughly 10 minutes to go through all wikis at 2 seconds per wiki. [23:10:42] Reedy: that looks right [23:10:58] * aude goes to read admin noticeboard incidents :) [23:11:02] do properties work now in Wikipedias? [23:11:06] No [23:11:07] so the job runner is picking up full-sized batches (1000 changes per job) [23:11:09] check watchlist in a while [23:11:15] meaning we are still processing backlog [23:11:20] should be fine in a bit [23:11:21] * Ahonc tries to add {{#property:population}} to article [23:11:27] ok [23:11:40] but see the text {{#property:population}} [23:12:05] Ahonc: client side integration of properties is still at least 6 weeks away. [23:12:07] Ahonc: That's not yet working [23:12:33] aude: The change that hides the "edit links" thing in case the links aren't from WB isn't yet live? [23:12:46] That's confusing :/ [23:13:06] reedy@fenari:/home/wikipedia/common$ mwscript extensions/WikimediaMaintenance/getJobQueueLengths.php --totalonly [23:13:06] Total 4203250 [23:13:12] Ahonc: track it here: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45600 [23:13:15] ok [23:13:17] 140,000 jobs less now [23:13:18] (diff | hist) . . New York City (Q60); 18:04 . . Aude (talk | contribs) (3 changes) [23:13:22] it's 2 changes, i know [23:13:42] it took 9 minutes to appear on enwiki [23:13:46] * aude waiting on dewiki [23:13:54] enwiki has no backlog [23:13:58] yup [23:14:05] aude: if there's issues with coalescing, please file a bug [23:14:13] DanielK_WMDE: ok [23:14:18] there might be a bug already [23:14:30] hmpf, we should have thought to truncate the changes table earlier. oh, well. [23:14:57] Any familiar with the #$genls property in CycL, and how it differs from 'is a'? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CycL#Specialization_and_Generalization [23:15:15] anyone familiar* [23:15:55] my hunch is that is enables type-token distinction, but i'm not sure: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type%E2%80%93token_distinction [23:16:09] Emw: genls is a subclass relation, while isa is an instance/class relation [23:16:41] the distinction is wide spread and used in many programming languages. [23:17:04] i'm not convinced that it's as fundamental as some make it out, but it's usefule [23:17:07] *useful [23:17:50] New review: Hoo man; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52421 [23:18:48] New review: Aude; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52421 [23:19:10] thanks hoo [23:19:55] ;) [23:20:47] all right, time to relax. [23:20:54] thanks aude, Reedy and Tobi_WMDE! [23:21:30] DanielK_WMDE: thx [23:21:34] im off too [23:21:56] cya tomorrow [23:22:01] I wonder if it's too late to lunch [23:22:08] cu Tobi_WMDE [23:23:57] hoo: though i don't see our preference in mw.user.options.get [23:24:08] :/ [23:24:22] I'll check it out and ahve a look [23:24:40] DanielK_WMDE: Job queue is still reducing at a decent rate [23:25:30] good [23:27:00] do all WIkipedias have Wikidata now? [23:27:08] (Unterschied | Versionen) . . Antarktische Trockentäler (Q571433); 22:53 . . Aude (Diskussion | Beiträge) (3 Änderungen) [23:27:11] looking good [23:27:19] * Ahonc sees 'Edit links' button in uk.wikipedia but does not see in ru.wikipedia [23:27:21] Ahonc: yes [23:27:29] hmmm [23:27:39] Link? [23:28:09] http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%83%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%8B_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%BA-%D0%9C%D1%91%D1%80%D0%B4%D0%BE [23:28:18] looks good to me [23:28:39] Ahonc: if the page is not in wikidata yet, then no edit link [23:29:08] * Ahonc tries to relogin [23:29:27] hmm, I see button if I does not logged in [23:29:54] must be caching [23:30:05] do a hard refresh? [23:30:56] aude: mw.user.options.get( 'rcshowwikidata' ) works for me [23:30:56] * Ahonc goes to disable some gadgets [23:33:37] hoo: hmm [23:33:57] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 44973) Check show wikibase preference for watchlist" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52421 [23:34:19] the options come from $wgUser->getOptions [23:34:24] in a resource module [23:34:24] amended it... this should work (it might be null if it's not set by the user but I don't think we care... do we) [23:34:55] ah, ok [23:35:00] dependency :) [23:35:03] * aude thought so [23:37:21] it works when disable gadget which highlights interwiki for some languages [23:37:22] well, interwiki-bots should be stopped now? I see them in watchlist [23:38:05] Ahonc: they'll still be needed for a few cases but generally they can stop, yes [23:38:16] there might be some that move links to wikidata [23:38:26] and remove them from the wikitext as needed [23:38:48] not sure if they're already running on your wiki [23:39:08] * addshore waves [23:39:16] New review: Aude; "works nice now. glad there is a simpler way to get preferences" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52421 [23:39:25] any bot that adds interwikilinks to an article should be stopped [23:39:51] :) [23:39:55] any pywikipedia bot that has been updated to the latest version will not add interwikilinks [23:40:10] New review: Hoo man; "Works like a charm :)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52419 [23:40:12] Change merged: Hoo man; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52419 [23:40:15] http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Спеціальна:Внесок/MerlIwBot [23:40:24] * Lydia_WMDE goes and watches some tv - please highlight me if you need me [23:40:37] aude: If you don't mind, I'll go ahead and merge the watchlist thing (so that you reviewed my code review changes :P) [23:40:41] Ahonc: yes? [23:40:57] it adds iwiki [23:41:16] to articles [23:41:21] my bot will change it behavour automatically in few hours when rereading local config from api [23:42:57] my bot is currently working on new articles at s2 wiki. if i stop my bot no wikidata item are created for these articles. [23:44:17] the bot automatically changes its local behaviour after its local cache get invalid and it reads local extension list again. [23:44:45] hoo: i don't mind but it's better if someone "uninvolved" merges it [23:45:19] Ok, going to +1 then... that's not urgent :) [23:45:27] ok [23:45:33] tobi can merge it [23:45:46] * jem- waves at the deploy live on es.wiki [23:45:48] not urgent since it missed the deadline for backports [23:45:55] but will be in next time [23:45:59] New review: Hoo man; "Looks good... just so that someone uninvolved takes a last look." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52421 [23:46:25] * aude happy to have another person who can merge wikibase stuff :D [23:47:39] :) [23:52:45] is there a more stable test-repo than http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de, or should i just setup a local repo instance? [23:53:14] for bot testing purposes [23:54:33] notconfusing: no [23:56:41] aude, ok then, so to replicate as best as possible live wikidata, use a local instance & a dump? [23:59:06] not sure [23:59:32] i don't know that the dumps have all of our tables