[00:00:43] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44844 [00:05:16] aude: CORS requests look fully broken on WMF for me [00:05:37] userinfo from enwiki to dewiki doesn't work either [00:06:40] hoo: hmmm [00:06:42] since things seem reasonably fine i'll go to bed [00:06:45] good night :)( [00:06:55] but i also have issues on my test wiki and on labs [00:07:10] * aude tries labs again [00:07:55] goodnight Lydia_WMDE [00:08:10] Hello, I'm Kizar from eswiki [00:08:15] hi Kizar [00:08:37] so much scrollback :/ [00:08:51] heh [00:08:58] There are bots that are working improperly [00:09:04] https://ast.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Llista_de_pa%C3%ADses&action=history [00:09:43] Removing and adding interwiki links [00:09:45] Kizar: i think it's up to admins to handle that or maybe stewards, if admins can't resolve [00:09:50] hoo: what do you think? [00:10:05] * aude saw a bot add links that i removed on dewiki [00:10:11] then someone reverted the bot [00:10:17] There are no active admins in astwiki [00:10:32] then stewards.... [00:10:58] mh [00:11:10] you can ask in #wikimedia-stewards maybe [00:11:29] * aude has no powers to stop bots :/ [00:11:48] don't know if bot owners are being warned or what [00:11:49] I could locally block or let stewards lock [00:11:58] Yay for your work! [00:13:20] yay Silke_WMDE [00:14:35] aude: pwb config is not updated since march 3rd [00:16:16] aude: Got that CORS bug [00:16:25] yay for Stackoverflow [00:16:53] Merlissimo: what do we need to update? [00:17:12] * boxofjuice looks to see what xqt did last time [00:17:43] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/11073 [00:17:57] ask sb. with pwb svn access? xqt was away today (at cebit) [00:18:04] i have svn access [00:18:38] can i just set that to return ('wikidata','wikidata') ? [00:18:40] for everything? [00:19:16] i dont know how trunk works though... [00:19:34] i am not using pwb, so i am not so familiar with code [00:20:30] always returning wikidata would stop pwb also on commons [00:20:33] (i think) [00:20:56] Merlissimo: oh to stop the bots? [00:21:00] on incubator and species my bot is the only active interwikibot [00:21:08] i think commons is a different thing [00:21:13] hoo: what you do? [00:21:14] New patchset: Hoo man; "Fix CORS requests in wikibase.RepoApi" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52562 [00:21:17] commons is shared_image_repository() [00:21:21] aude: ^ ther [00:21:22] e [00:21:39] Merlissimo: MerlIwBot was still adding interwikis on es.wiki 4 minutes ago [00:21:40] * aude tries [00:22:00] Anyway, I have just activated the filter, just for bots for now [00:22:10] jem-: it will change automatically in few hours. [00:22:21] Ok then [00:22:21] It works on the live sites with the latest JS :) [00:22:38] jem-: have you a link for the filter? [00:23:06] [[es:Special:AbuseFilter/14]] [00:23:07] 10[3] 10https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/14 [00:24:10] jem-: this blocks too much [00:24:41] my bot will continue adding links to e.g. static redirect and anchors [00:24:44] jem-: have you seen addshore's filter on enwiki? [00:25:22] Yes, boxofjuice, I took the codes list from there [00:25:27] ok [00:25:32] Filter 532 I guess [00:25:32] jem-: I dont block edits though [00:25:36] hoo: much better \o/ [00:25:49] jem-: what we did was have the bot trip the filter and then block them [00:25:54] rather than block the edits [00:26:30] :) [00:27:00] Well, I think it is better to avoid things that we'll have to undo later [00:27:13] New review: Aude; "yay! the widget works now" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52562 [00:27:14] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52562 [00:27:25] Anyway I'll be watching the log of the filter [00:28:36] And I don't think interwikis to anchors/sections are a good idea, but the community will decide [00:28:40] jem-: could you add an execption for my bot tomorrow? i think it is the only bot still able to add langlink not possible in wikidata. [00:28:57] jem-: also static redirects [00:29:10] i don't like anchors, too [00:29:30] Ok, Merlissimo [00:31:55] Exception added [00:32:02] my bot just completed the scan of new articles on s2 wiki. [00:32:32] so the oldest process is from 23:13:18 utc. wikibase client was enabled at thiat time already? [00:36:56] good night :) [00:37:37] goodnight hoo [00:39:33] :) [02:26:26] hey, rschen7754, you're an op in here, right? [02:26:31] yeah [02:27:00] can you remove the confirmations link from the topic, please, and add a reference to the !_admin stalkword [02:28:23] ok [02:30:26] thanks :) [02:30:31] np [02:49:22] rschen7754: e.t.c [02:49:25] infact just everyone [02:49:27] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Wikidata_rollout_and_Interwiki_bots [02:49:43] noted [03:33:39] Change on 12meta_wikimedia a page Wikidata was modified, changed by Legoktm link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5302357 edit summary: [-13177] restore [03:44:57] sorry for being late to the party - boxofjuice just pointed me to #wikirc-iw -- is anyone blocking those? [03:45:12] yurik: not yet. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Wikidata_rollout_and_interwiki_bots [03:45:46] by policy only local sysops can block interwiki bots [03:46:09] so the RfC will hopefully give stewards a temporary power to lock them [03:46:25] * yurik dislikes politics [03:47:34] i think we should start contacting individual languages - europe should be awake soon [03:47:44] through their IRC channel [03:49:47] emausBot seems to be doing most of the work [03:50:10] and JackieBot [03:51:33] yurik: Well, I think a global message on discussion pages would be in order, but it has already been done, with no mention of the RfC [03:51:43] so that seems like a good idea [03:51:53] well [03:51:56] yeah [03:53:07] i think we should start blocking bots without waiting - imo this is somewhat of an urgent matter, as bots are getting incorrect information [03:53:39] if the bot is using api langlinks, but than it processes page text to manipulate those langlinks [03:53:53] if its not wikidata aware, i have no idea what this would result in [03:54:12] (considering that I wrote large portions of it many years ago, this should be scary :)) [03:54:27] yurik: iirc interwiki.py searches text [04:01:46] boxofjuice: the rewrite branch uses it [04:01:54] the original pywiki doesn't [04:02:00] lol no one uses rewrite :( [04:02:03] * boxofjuice cries [04:02:07] a few people do [04:02:16] but i think rewrite went slightly the wrong path :( [04:02:22] to run interwiki bots? i highly doubt it... [04:03:18] i will soon start blocking api calls without proper useragent [04:03:41] soo many bots without them, impossible to figure out who is what [04:08:03] do you have access to UA data already? [04:10:14] i have some stats, in a few weeks once i start with WMF, will have all [04:10:46] so are there any rewrite interwiki.py bots? [04:17:04] boxofjuice: there is, but i don't know the state its in. Regardless, i think we should rework the original interwiki bot, run it once to get all the stuff into wikidata, and kill it with vengence [04:17:09] EmausBot 185 [04:17:11] Xqbot 106 [04:17:13] ZéroBot 66 [04:17:14] JackieBot 47 [04:17:16] LaaknorBot 36 [04:17:17] MerlIwBot 9 [04:17:19] PixelBot 6 [04:17:20] Rezabot 2 [04:17:22] current culprits [04:17:38] Merlissimo's bot isnt pywikipedia based [04:17:44] plus i think he already took care of his bot [04:18:16] top languages: [04:18:18] sv 60 [04:18:19] ceb 54 [04:18:21] nl 40 [04:18:22] vi 33 [04:18:24] ja 27 [04:18:25] ko 14 [04:18:27] fr 11 [04:18:28] ca 10 [04:18:47] nl / ca I'm running on. [04:19:03] boxofjuice: which bot is yours? [04:19:12] User:Legobot [04:19:33] https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciaal:Bijdragen/Legobot [04:19:46] do you have admin? [04:20:03] block emausbot - he did 32 changes in nl [04:20:11] I'm not [04:20:16] I'm just a sysop on Wikidata. [04:20:19] And mw.org [04:20:27] bleh [04:20:43] are there any admins this time a day in anything other than en??? [04:20:53] I'm a global sysop [04:20:59] Does that count? [04:21:06] huh, i say block them all [04:21:16] Let's wait for the RfC [04:21:19] its better for them not to run for a few hours, than to cause tons of useless demage [04:21:30] yurik: ask in #wikimedia-stewards [04:23:54] huh: asked, waiting... [04:24:45] yurik: you can say @.s.t.e.w.a.r.d to get their attention, but don't tell anyone I said that (except for the log of this channel, ofc) using "!" instead of "@" pings even more people [04:24:50] block ALL the editors! [04:40:29] Change abandoned: Jeroen De Dauw; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44867 [05:10:58] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Change example namespace base" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52584 [05:11:50] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Change example namespace base" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52584 [05:37:46] heheh https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15607 got marked as FIXED :DDD [07:39:41] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added insert, update and delete methods to query interface" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52591 [08:55:21] :D [08:55:29] good morning people of wikidata [08:55:51] o/ [08:56:06] how's it going? [08:56:10] everything still ok? [08:56:16] * Lydia_WMDE is catching up with discussion pages [08:57:10] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Wikidata_rollout_and_interwiki_bots [08:57:31] RfC to allow stewards to lock interwiki bots that restore interwikis after they are removed [09:04:17] thx [09:49:05] hi Abraham_WMDE [09:55:27] hi aude [09:55:36] are you at the gov office? [09:55:41] not yet [09:56:07] might get there ~1pm if you want to join [09:56:25] or maybe earlier [09:56:45] * aude assures it will be boring [09:58:39] unfortunately, I think I cannot join. Need to be at the office. But you can call me anytime if you need support via e.g. phone [10:03:09] Abraham_WMDE: not a problem [10:03:25] it's not a good use of your time [10:04:38] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added TermsToClaimsTranslator" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52607 [10:08:59] aude: hope it will not take too long and you do not need to wait for hours [10:10:50] I'm going to update the demo system with what was demoed yesterday now. [10:11:24] that is, the test system won't be available for a little while [10:11:40] But you've got the real WP now for playing ;) [10:15:16] what is ka-wikipedia? btw, I can't add following (ka-wiki) link: ვიკიპედია:რა არ არის ვიკიპედია to [[Q4345841]] [10:15:16] 10[1] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4345841 [10:20:02] see folks later.... [10:26:13] nvm, link is already there :) [10:46:32] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "DO NOT MERGE" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52609 [11:01:04] Lydia_WMDE: snitchen #omnomnom? [11:01:24] JeroenDeDauw: meh - just prepared some fruits.... [11:11:04] how can i enable wikidata on my local wiki watchlist as default? or can i add sth. to url? [11:11:51] Merlissimo: there is a setting in your preferences [11:12:25] hi y'all [11:12:35] no [11:12:42] jo Denny_WMDE! [11:12:47] Merlissimo: not? let me check [11:12:58] Erweiterte Beobachtungsliste zur Anzeige aller Änderungen [11:12:58] Kleine Bearbeitungen in der Beobachtungsliste ausblenden [11:12:58] Bearbeitungen durch Bots in der Beobachtungsliste ausblenden [11:12:58] Eigene Bearbeitungen in der Beobachtungsliste ausblenden [11:12:58] Bearbeitungen anonymer Benutzer (IP-Adressen) in der Beobachtungsliste ausblenden [11:12:58] Bearbeitungen angemeldeter Benutzer in der Beobachtungsliste ausblenden [11:13:01] Beobachtungslisten-Token: 12345 [11:13:12] no wikidata checkbox [11:14:23] Merlissimo: the one i was thinking of is in recent changes [11:14:33] i thought this also works for watchlist [11:15:14] Merlissimo: care to file a bug for it? [11:15:42] yes [11:16:36] thanks! [11:18:20] Lydia_WMDE: you already created https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44990 [11:18:42] Merlissimo: Oo clearly i should go back to bed... [11:18:54] and start this day over [11:19:46] aude: is just working on it ;-) [11:24:19] New review: Anja Jentzsch; "It selects the text in the second box in Safari, intended effect?" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51351 [11:33:49] New review: Anja Jentzsch; "Doesn't show a checkbox for "Show Wikidata edits in watchlist" in Preferences. That's what Lydia meant." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52421 [11:47:32] * addshore yawns [11:49:15] * Lydia_WMDE puts a fly in addshore's mouth [11:49:15] :P [11:49:21] :( [11:49:28] * addshore doesnt like eating flys :P [11:49:45] ;-) [11:49:52] chocolate instead? [11:51:02] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Simplifying listview widget while introducing snaklistview" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52612 [11:51:21] * addshore likes chocolate :D [11:59:20] * addshore lets dewiki fight out about interwikilinks [12:01:19] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52612 [12:01:42] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Improving focusing after "add" action in statements UI" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51655 [12:09:05] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51655 [12:10:09] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Proper "enter" key handling for entity selector's "more" link" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51119 [12:38:57] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51119 [13:12:05] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Entity selector: Option to emulate search box behavior" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51350 [13:13:16] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51826 [13:15:18] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(2 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49853 [13:31:30] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51350 [13:32:13] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46686 [13:32:21] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Entity search: Allow random text input in entity selector" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51351 [13:52:23] aude Please have a look at the lang links on http://wikidata-test-client.wikimedia.de/wiki/Helium. I ran populateInterwiki.php several times, but it doesn't fix the way the langlinks are displayed. Any idea why? [13:53:39] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51351 [13:54:21] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 44674) "Full-text search" section for entity search" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51661 [14:05:57] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51661 [14:12:09] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 45198) Do not hide entity selector's list of suggestion" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51643 [14:12:11] we crossed 10 million edits on wikidata :) [14:25:23] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51643 [14:35:57] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 44674) Entity search: Prevent closing suggestion list" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51662 [14:36:38] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52584 [14:45:16] New review: John Erling Blad; "(3 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52591 [14:45:29] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52591 [14:45:41] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(bug 44674) Entity search: Prevent closing suggestion list" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51662 [14:57:34] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52607 [15:11:54] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "When typing the full label of an existing entity, then typing some additional characters and pressin..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51662 [15:13:03] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "This needs a manual rebase, there are some conflicts in snakview and entitysearch." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51646 [15:18:18] New review: John Erling Blad; "(3 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51847 [15:22:23] New review: John Erling Blad; "I wonder if the user will get into a habit of using this link to get to the item, and then it should..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51179 [15:27:56] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47817 [15:39:37] Silke_WMDE_: looks fine to me [15:59:11] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "passes tests and works as expected. didn't check all the localization stuff, but don't want to block..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32921 [15:59:13] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32921 [16:11:13] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Add description of "string" to the list in DataTypes" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52624 [16:14:39] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(3 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51847 [16:15:32] Jeblad_WMDE: please see my comments on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/51847/ [16:18:08] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52624 [16:20:51] You normalize before storing in the index, but then the search term must also be normalized the same way [16:21:28] But note that if the meaning of the word change, then you introduce errors in the normalization [16:22:31] Normalization of text strings is a _very_ large and complex issue [16:23:02] Especially what you can and can't do to letters with diacritics [16:25:11] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 45099) Return full error report from API." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49853 [16:31:22] Jeblad_WMDE: for a search key, we could just strip all the diacritics. I just didn't want to go there. [16:32:16] Jeblad_WMDE: yes, the normalization must be the same when creating the index, and when accessing it. I assume that Term::normalizeText is used in both cases - that's why we have a term class. [16:32:31] I havn't checked the code, but i think the test cases cover this. [16:33:20] Jeblad_WMDE: generally, normalization without losing information is much harder than "dumbing down" a string. that's what we want for a search key (lowercasing is one aspect of it) [16:33:37] but before we block on this, i can extract my changes to the term normalization into a separate patch [16:33:42] would that be better? [16:33:51] just to point out — stripping the diacritic away is not a good idea [16:34:04] if possible normalize them to the "base" letter [16:34:15] Denny_WMDE: that's what i meant, of course :) [16:34:16] the problem with stripping is that it generates unexplicable false hits [16:34:26] ah, ok, sorry, misunderstood [16:34:43] i wasn't being very clear i guess [16:34:52] np [16:34:54] it didn't even ocurr to me to just remove the entire letter :) [16:35:06] sounded like that :) but then it's good [16:38:46] The thing is, when you remove formatting you change the meaning in some languages [16:39:13] Google seems to be stripping off zwnj, perhaps it is acceptable, I don't know [16:39:48] But Google also do a lot of other things to the search, and that could compensate for what they seem to be doing [16:39:51] * aude thinks no matter how we normalize the search still will suck :( [16:40:09] * aude hopes for some better solution than this soon :) [16:40:30] * Jeblad_WMDE is not sure,.. search was working on his old system [16:40:42] poorly.... [16:41:03] we can change to upper/lower case without loss of information.. [16:41:08] err.. no.. [16:41:23] from lower to upper we can [16:42:02] ..but me will do what he said he would and then go home [16:42:15] heh, where did the createclaim summary go? [16:42:29] It seems to be gone [16:42:30] Wiki13: there's a bug for it i think [16:42:33] ah [16:42:38] not sure the status [16:42:45] but we are aware [16:42:54] ah ok [16:43:10] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45840 [16:43:22] * aude no idea how it broke [16:44:27] database is asher, not hashar, right? [16:44:33] i will never learn to keep the two names apart [16:46:59] Denny_WMDE: yes [16:47:09] hashar does the testing stuff [16:48:40] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 44973) Check show wikibase preference for watchlist" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52421 [16:49:08] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 45099) Return full error report from API." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49853 [16:49:23] aude: thx [16:56:40] Denny_WMDE, Abraham_WMDE: i don't see a hangout link in the calendar... am i missing something obvious? [16:57:19] ... [16:57:50] i see it [16:57:50] DanielK_WMDE_: it is linked within the calender [16:57:55] do you have several events? [16:57:58] try the others [16:58:03] check also your email reminder there is also a link :) [16:58:04] i have two. no link in either. [16:58:55] i'm not seeing the mail either [16:58:58] something is very strange here. [16:59:18] Abraham_WMDE: i'm looking at the "Weekly" entry from your calendar [16:59:41] oh, err. wait [16:59:45] there it is now? [16:59:48] * DanielK_WMDE_ is confused [17:02:11] Hello there. [17:02:46] Another basic question about wikidata. [17:03:00] In which language should be the label and description ? [17:03:00] sure, ask it :) [17:03:20] I'd just read the help files and it is not clear for me. [17:03:29] It can be in all languages I believe [17:04:10] When I define it, I have to specify the language somehow? [17:05:36] 'cause when I look at the french help files... they spoke about doing it in French but when I click on the examples I could see only English examples... [17:06:04] that´s because your language is set to English Zil [17:06:18] Ok. [17:06:41] I need to switch in my preferences if I want to edit in multiple languages ? [17:06:54] ehm [17:07:28] no, you can use the labelLister tool in the gadget section of the preferences [17:07:44] it can edit labels, descriptions and aliases from other languages [17:08:09] without the need of changing you interface language [17:08:14] your* [17:08:20] Ok. [17:08:55] It's not like in the help file where by just adding a /fr at the end, I could see the French version. [17:10:09] Ok. tested... doesn't work. [17:10:18] Zil: you can also add a babel box to your user page [17:10:29] then it also shows you labels and descriptions in those languages [17:10:33] and lets you edit them [17:10:45] if you speak more than one language [17:11:09] zil: when you say "doesn't work", what do you mean? [17:11:44] do you see a "labels list" button at the top of the items page, to the left of the search box? [17:11:45] inductiveload: Well, that I' not able to switch language by adding a "/fr" at the end of the url in the main space. [17:12:02] well no, that's not how it works [17:12:19] the Page/fr is subpage of the page Page [17:12:23] Yep. I was testing just in case... [17:13:14] My user page has already been deleted even if I didn't edit it... [17:14:22] Ok thanks for the help... [17:14:52] Zil: because some anonymous user created your userpage with nonsense [17:16:17] Ok... Yes, I saw the deletion reason... Strange that there is already some sort of vandalism on wikidata... and more specifically on my user page... [17:16:31] aude: Looks like the code using conditions on rc_type seems to be including flagged revs stuff [17:17:44] Zil: as long as drone strikes are being wasted on people other than Wiki vandals and spammers, they will be everywhere :-( [17:18:28] Yes for sure... [17:19:18] maybe WMF hit squads attached to the local chapters might help? [17:19:26] aude: SpecialRecentchangeslinked seems to be the main user.. [17:20:26] Ok I could use ?setlang=fr at the end of the url... cool. [17:22:31] who is planning on going to amsterdam? [17:22:56] * yurik is writing a request for the trip, and making a list of people to work with [17:23:13] Overall job queue length is currently 143303 [17:29:05] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Back to weird title" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52629 [17:31:44] hi Reedy [17:31:51] Hey [17:34:25] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52629 [17:34:53] http://pastebin.com/EZQdnqrW is the query used for watchlist [17:34:59] Reedy: [17:35:33] the queries for enhanced changes will exclude wikidata [17:35:36] so are different [17:37:04] Can you log into https://ishmael.wikimedia.org/?hours=24&host=db1043 using your labs account? [17:37:28] let's see [17:37:39] * aude tryign all the queries [17:38:07] there'd be 4 variations -- one each for watchlist/ recent changes (default format), another for enhanced [17:38:35] Reedy: not letting me in [17:38:50] Must be WMF restricted :/ [17:39:08] hmmm [17:39:52] Watchlist queries with rc_type seem minimal [17:40:01] I need a bigger screen as scrolling is awkard [17:41:04] the ones with enhanced changes or filtering them would use rc_type != 5 [17:41:14] zil: if you enable the lablellister gadget, you can get a list of all labels and descriptions for an item - it gives you new button to te left of the search bar for that [17:41:35] by default they get included and because watchlist code sucks, we're using javascript at the moment to hide them [17:41:57] http://pastebin.com/nd4iGuY9 is for enhanced changes watchlist [17:42:22] aude: let me email you a copy of the page [17:42:24] ok [17:42:36] * aude has no idea which format people were using who mentioned this [17:42:41] could be enhanced [17:42:45] inductiveload: Well currently I'm exploring the interface and try to work with the current interface... [17:43:24] I might enable it latter. [17:43:34] Sent [17:44:06] ok [17:46:32] At a quick glance on a larger screen I can't see any watchlist queries listed on there that use rc_type.. [17:47:55] Extra: Using temporary; Using filesort [17:47:55] :( [17:48:09] http://p.defau.lt/?cXcbKFU06Z_AFq0D4gfung [17:48:28] user, namespace, title [17:48:52] Reedy: choose "enhanced" changes format [17:48:52] looks like it's using the right index :/ [17:48:56] it's a popular preference [17:49:17] INNER JOIN `watchlist` ON (wl_user = '2' AND (wl_namespace=rc_namespace) AND (wl_title=rc_title)) [17:49:22] CREATE UNIQUE INDEX /*i*/wl_user ON /*_*/watchlist (wl_user, wl_namespace, wl_title); [17:49:24] :/ [17:49:30] I wonder if Maria is any smarter about it... [17:49:33] there we're filtering out wikidata and like recent changes, it will have an option to filter them out via db query instead of evil js hiding [17:49:42] hmmmmm [17:49:51] could be we just need to filter them out [17:50:23]