[00:11:20] legoktm: around? [00:12:09] just a FYI - they've merged owner with road owner and renamed road owner [00:12:15] so i'll proceed with the rest of the properties [01:44:36] Hi at the time of removing interwikis manually, should I remove the GA links? [01:47:29] MKar_Od: no, not yet [01:47:34] wikidata does not support those yet [01:49:09] thanks :) [01:49:42] np [03:46:05] legoktm, whenever you wake up, you can start your bot on svwp as well now :) http://sv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALogg&type=rights&user=&page=Anv%C3%A4ndare%3ALegobot&year=&month=-1&tagfilter= [05:06:09] Grillo: great! [05:06:12] ill start it now [05:06:15] rschen7754: hi [05:06:29] legoktm: oh just saying that we can keep using P126 [05:06:31] *127 [05:06:46] ok [05:07:38] nice :) [05:14:44] legoktm, http://sv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gotland&diff=prev&oldid=20153045 how come addbot failed to move the two links your bot moved? [05:15:49] http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Legobot/Wikidata/General and you maybe should change the links to the other language versions :) [05:16:05] ok so [05:16:08] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1027830&diff=10084350&oldid=10026494 [05:16:18] thats because when addbot ran through, those links werent in wikidata yet [05:16:25] my bot added them from oswiki [05:16:34] and would have added them from svwiki if it hadnt done them [05:16:51] ah :) [05:17:09] addbot doesnt import back into wikidata, legobot does though [05:20:30] the links on http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Legobot/Wikidata/General still seem to be made as wd-links though :P [05:20:35] good page to have though [05:21:49] Yeah [05:21:52] I never got around to fixing that [05:22:01] And that page exists on just about any wiki the bot ran on [05:22:25] There are also individual pages for each wiki where it identifies a conflict [05:24:51] legoktm, don't worry then, but I'll link to that page somewhere so more editors can look through iw conflicts that your bot fails on [05:55:11] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q301754 the nl link seems to be wrong, but I can't remove it for some reason [05:56:01] * legoktm looks [05:56:09] i removed it? [05:56:21] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q301754&diff=10446859&oldid=10446093 [05:56:23] legoktm, how? remove was grayed out for me [05:56:46] idk [05:56:51] i just pressed the button :P [05:57:21] and all those I thought I removed are now back :/ [05:57:47] apparently His Master's Voice evolved into HMV Group, but some languages have articles about both [05:57:52] but most only about the modern company [06:00:07] ah, maybe because I didn't read the popup about accepting cc0 :P [06:43:47] addrawr, you seem to be blocked on nvwp... http://nv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Addbot [06:44:20] ah, I see you noticed :) [06:49:30] when is it possible for the "edit links" not to show? [06:49:38] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29 [06:53:45] yurik: that page hasnt been moved to wikidata yet [06:54:14] legoktm, wasn't it that the "edit links" appeared for all pages? [06:54:24] i might be wrong though [06:54:29] Not sure [06:54:32] I just imported it though [06:54:44] that page individually? [06:54:50] i don't want that to happen really :) [06:55:07] was looking through the #wikirc-iw, and noticed a bot [06:56:13] o.o [06:56:21] wa? [06:56:31] checking global contribs [06:56:37] yours? [06:58:38] no for user:Tahir-bot [07:00:12] its only active on urwiki so that can be locally blocked if necessary [09:44:08] hi [09:44:28] Hi [09:44:36] I have a question: Does Wikidat not use SUL? [09:44:54] It use [09:46:56] *uses [09:47:39] So I have to login once to create the account? [09:48:25] MarioS: possibly - a few people said they were not logged in immediately [09:49:16] Yes not immediately login i watching in all projects [09:49:24] That happened to me as well, but now it works. I also didn't have cookies activated for that domain. [09:49:36] At chapters wiki very often [09:50:48] Thanks for the info, it works now. [10:21:07] rschen7754: new york is running now [10:21:13] ok cool [10:21:18] thx [10:21:24] found a weird bug in my script [10:21:42] apparently the server automatically closes the db connection if you dont use it for a while [10:21:57] its about phase 2? [10:22:08] :( [10:23:01] Base: yes, my bot adds properties [10:25:30] Yesterday i all the day tried to make addbots's analog :D [10:26:17] o.o nice [10:26:31] i had to dig through a 50MB log file to find that error :P [12:43:31] Hi [12:44:21] What's should be the status of showing/hiding Wikidata edits in watchlist? [12:44:26] What [12:48:02] lazowik: hey [12:48:16] they should show up there [12:48:26] there are issues with enhanced recent changes though [12:48:31] that we are working on [12:48:33] yep but what about switch? [12:48:47] it is there if you do not use enhanced recent changes [12:50:14] ok, thanks [12:56:36] But if someone has ecnhanced rc enabled the Wikidata changes are not shown? [12:57:09] Asking because on plwiki a user is complaining that he cannot disable them [12:58:30] he says that he has "Show Wikidata edits in recent changes" _not_ chcecked in preferences [12:59:46] afaik there are some problems with enchanched changes and Wikidata.. [12:59:55] I'm aware [13:00:20] but are they forced not to be shown or is it just random? [13:01:57] I don´t know.. [13:02:51] OK, will anwser that he should disable enchanced [13:03:23] btw. it's the "Group changes by page in recent changes and watchlist (requires JavaScript)" option in preferences? [13:06:40] Something's not wright with messages [13:06:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Wikibase-rc-show-wikidata-pref [13:06:44] vs [13:06:45] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Wikibase-rc-show-wikidata-pref/en [13:07:04] the second one is used in translatewiki as a source for translation [13:07:19] and the result is that translated versions do not have the warning [13:07:21] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Wikibase-rc-show-wikidata-pref&action=history [13:07:24] It was customized [13:07:40] ok [13:07:46] but should it be done that way? [13:07:58] it's relevant not only to enwiki [13:07:58] not sure, ask aude ;) [13:08:07] !seen aude [13:08:16] not here... [13:08:26] @seen aude [13:08:32] * legoktm pokes wm-bot  [13:08:46] :) [13:08:47] ! [13:08:57] !botbrain [13:09:03] stuck... [13:09:14] aude: ^ [13:10:24] !ping [13:10:32] heh [13:10:45] !ping is pong [13:10:46] You are not authorized to perform this, sorry [13:10:51] You are unknown to me :) [13:10:51] :D [13:10:56] @accesslist [13:10:59] erm [13:11:02] >.< [13:20:53] http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q148706&diff=prev&oldid=9925701 this is wierd [13:22:09] TBloemink: known bug :( [13:22:21] ah [13:25:41] Is https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2247412&diff=10502607&oldid=3036736 the correct way to model this or do we have a different way of doing this? [13:27:05] yeah [13:27:07] diff=prev is broken [13:27:39] what's the prefix (if any) for Wikidata? [13:27:45] d: ? [13:27:47] for [[:pl:Title]] style links? [13:27:47] 10[1] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/:pl:Title [13:28:30] jep d: [13:28:38] thanks [13:30:49] Lydia_WMDE: When I want to add a value to an object (for example the number of inhabitants), how is that called in the wikibase data model? [13:31:57] multichill: does http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_statement.png help? [13:32:04] i'm not sure what you mean exactly [13:32:37] So the object is claim and value is part of that [13:33:01] That's not implemented yet, right? [13:33:38] the qualifiers are not [13:33:45] values are [13:34:02] that is what you enter now when you add things like "paris is capital of france" [13:34:25] So, how do I add the number of inhabitants? [13:34:40] you can't atm because the data type numbers is missing [13:34:58] we have item, string and commons media as data types so far [13:35:14] URI, geocoordinate, number and others will follow [13:35:15] Ah, right :-) [13:35:17] :) [13:36:02] Hi everyone again [13:36:55] hey jem- [13:36:58] :) [13:37:06] I'm beginning to think about the integration of Wikidata (I wish I had time to do it before) [13:37:28] And probably what I'm thinking has been thought before [13:37:41] But anyway I want to share it :) [13:38:16] I think all the project should have a link in the navigation bar to connect to Wikidata the same way we have a link to Commons to upload files [13:38:30] it'll happen but still take a while [13:38:32] (Well, at least the projects that only allow uploads to Commons) [13:38:39] Ahm [13:39:01] The point is that now the Special:ItemByTitle must take an external project to search [13:39:10] yeah [13:39:26] And if we put eswiki/Our_page it doesn't find anything, of course [13:39:38] oh? [13:39:46] what is happening? [13:39:52] I mean [13:40:11] Real example: A user has created [[es:Yuko Shimizu]] [13:40:11] 10[2] 10https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuko_Shimizu [13:40:19] ok [13:40:31] He isn't aware of Wikidata, so he has added interwikis [13:40:37] ok [13:40:46] (Well, sooner or later my filter will block that, but that's apart) [13:41:11] And, if we want to offer a link in order to see if it exists in Wikidata [13:41:21] ah [13:41:23] now i get it [13:41:25] We cannot put an autolink https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ItemByTitle/eswiki/Yuko_Shimizu [13:41:26] yeah [13:41:37] we have a feature lined up that lets you solve this on the wikipedia [13:41:41] it needs polishing still [13:41:47] hopefully ready soon [13:41:53] Great [13:42:33] Then, I guess it's better to wait before adding anything to the navbar [13:42:45] (Which is what I was thinking) [13:43:14] *nod* [13:43:23] :) [14:09:19] on which basis are the languages in "In other languages" selected? [14:26:02] lazowik: babel box on your user page [14:26:13] thanks again :) [14:26:51] np [14:30:26] When I create an article on dawiki should I then go to Wikidata and add the iw or? [14:30:55] yep [14:30:57] yes [14:31:05] or create an item if one does not exist [14:31:35] If we say this http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q199642?setlang=da where to do it? [14:32:47] Under "in other languages"? og in the top? [14:33:05] nope [14:33:21] ah, in the bottom? [14:33:23] thare is [add] on the very end of the list [14:33:26] exactly [14:33:27] List of pages linked to this item, under that [14:33:40] that´s at the bottom [14:35:22] Looks right? http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q199642&diff=10511701&oldid=9196528 [14:36:06] when comes the iw in dawiki then? [14:37:24] right away [14:37:31] and does this function come to other WMF wikis than Wikipedia? [14:37:41] but if you want to see it now [14:37:45] you need to purge the cache [14:37:53] like this: http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_Rimet?action=purge [14:38:01] now the iw is there :-) [14:38:23] a little bit magical, don't you think? [14:38:47] I'm not sure I understand how it works :-) [14:39:07] you mean concept or a technical way? [14:39:23] er? [14:39:44] I mean what you don't understand? [14:40:15] Er just foeget it :-) [14:40:21] ok [14:40:21] *forget [14:41:32] lazowik, do you know if it comes to other WMF projects? [14:42:16] I think that it is done primarily for Wikipedia [14:42:28] but I've seen talks about Commons [14:42:49] Commons is only in one language [14:43:08] but descriptions are not [14:43:42] Wikidata is not only about iw [14:43:52] that's the first of three stages [14:44:49] I know something about infoboxes [14:45:06] yep, taht's the second one [14:45:09] but not what it is about there [14:45:26] you can actually see it shaping right now [14:45:30] statements [14:46:08] it will be possible to get access to them on the wikis [14:46:21] to what? [14:46:32] to statements [14:46:35] like age: 21 [14:46:51] and in infobox you have sometihing like {{#age}} [14:47:03] which is expanded to the value from Wikidata [14:47:45] ah, and number of inhabitants for cities and so on? [14:47:56] exacly [14:48:35] Wil these code be inserted automatically or should we edit thousand of infoboxes? [14:49:04] *codes [14:51:40] I think that this will be mainly used in templates [14:52:13] but regarding that I'm not the person to ask [14:52:33] ok :-) [14:52:51] Let's see when it comes [14:53:30] on Wikidata parts of it already are live, but the implementation for clients (Wikipedias) is still in development [15:00:32] Sarrus: If we can raise sufficient funds, in the second year, we will begin supporting metadata for multimedia content in Wikimedia Commons, and enable a closer link-up between the various sources of Wikidata content. [15:00:44] that's from https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals/2012-2013_round1/Wikimedia_Deutschland/Proposal_form [15:22:03] hi [15:22:09] wikidata not set at commons? [15:23:35] Juandev: It's not, no [15:23:54] ok [15:23:55] Have to leave, bye [16:09:41] API question [16:09:45] if i do something like [16:09:46] https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetentities&sites=enwiki|frwiki&titles=Barack%20Obama|God&format=jsonfm [16:10:03] how do i know which entity is which? [16:10:18] i can check the sitelinks, but thats not how it should be done i would think... [16:15:03] hmm [16:15:08] legoktm: for each item, perhaps you could look at its english label [16:15:10] looks like theyre delivered in order [16:15:23] Emw: label doesnt always equal sitelink [16:16:15] but it looks like theyre delivered in order of them in the request [16:16:17] ah. can two items have the same label? [16:16:25] so as long as you keep them in order [16:16:25] yes they can [16:16:37] they just cant have same label AND same description [16:17:33] does the label always match the title? [16:17:43] (the title URL parameter) [16:18:16] Emw: no [16:18:32] how so? [16:18:37] The label can be anything. It doesn't have to match [16:18:41] Do you want an example? [16:18:48] yes, please [16:19:47] Emw: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q230 and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1428 (see enwiki) [16:20:38] Also https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q246141 and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1343132 [16:21:44] if you're going to check label, you can just check sitelink [16:21:54] but i think i can depend on the fact that they show up in order [16:24:12] PiRSquared17: ah, thanks [16:26:49] legoktm: being able to depend on the order of keys in a json object is risky, since json objects are unordered [16:27:32] thats what i thought but python's json module always keeps it in the same order that the server sends it in [16:28:17] PiRSquared17: maybe a better question would be: do the 'titles' values taken by the wikidata API ever differ from the labels of the entity objects? [16:28:37] yes they would [16:28:44] titles= checks against sitelinks [16:29:50] legoktm: where would they? [16:30:36] say the enwiki page is [[en:Joe Bob (ice hockey player)]] [16:30:37] 10[1] 10https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Bob_%28ice_hockey_player%29 [16:30:44] the label would be "Joe Bob" [16:30:54] and description as "professional ice hockey player" [16:37:57] legoktm: yes, but i guess i'm asking whether there is ever a difference between a value in the 'titles' URL parameter in the wikidata API and the label. the sitelink can be different, but it doesn't seem like the label could be. [16:38:07] errr [16:38:21] no the sitelink has to be the same, thats what you're looking up. [16:38:29] maybe you're confusing sitelinks and labels? [16:39:31] you described how the title URL parameter for the wikidata label could be different than sitelinks, not the label key value of the returned entity object, right? [16:41:37] i dont follow. whats the "wikidata label" and whats the "label key value of the entity object'? [16:42:00] sorry, s/wikidata label/wikidata api in my previous comment [16:43:52] for example, in https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetentities&sites=enwiki|frwiki&titles=Barack%20Obama|God&format=json, entities.q76.labels.en == "Barack Obama", just as the first value in the 'titles' URL parameter == Barack Obama [16:44:55] sorry, you know what you're doing [16:45:01] https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetentities&sites=enwiki&titles=God%20%28disambiguation%29&format=jsonfm [16:45:16] entities.q386933.labels.en == "God" [16:45:53] ah, i see [16:54:35] is any filtering of statements planned for Wikidata pages? [16:54:46] thye're already getting *big* [16:54:55] filtering? [16:55:08] filtering/searching [16:55:41] kinda [16:55:48] have you looked at the details for phase iii? [16:55:51] name it as you want [16:56:11] not much [16:56:27] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Technical_proposal#Phase_3:_Lists [16:56:59] also https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Phase_III which isnt very good [16:57:56] ok [16:57:56] thanks [18:39:21] Is there a list with all possible statements? [18:40:39] Nevermind, it seems I managed to find it [18:40:56] Myr: i think you're looking for the list of properties :) [18:41:06] [[Wikidata:List of properties]] [18:41:06] 10[2] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties [18:41:09] that should be it [18:41:22] Yes, I found it right after I asked [18:41:31] Happens a lot :( [18:41:32] ;-) [18:41:35] no problem [18:42:06] Is it also possible to add properties (such as length, width, height, etc etc) ? [18:43:27] And I found the answer to it too :/ [18:46:32] Myr: don't worry - there's quite a lot to understand at the beginning [18:51:20] are there any graphs of wikidata's growth? [18:55:09] http://als.wikidata.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_item_creation_progress.png seems close to what i'm looking for [18:55:21] yeah i think that is all we have [18:55:56] it'd be really interesting to see the growth in statements, and statements per item [20:16:42] Emw: What I would love to have is the evolution of the articles link to another article... [20:16:51] In percentage... [20:51:44] Zil: should be easy to do on the toolserver [20:52:07] May be for you... [20:52:10] calculate the total number of items, and the number of linked items. feed both to rrtool [20:52:39] Zil: well... I have other stuff on my plate, like getting phase 2 to work on wikipedia :) [20:53:27] Well... what I mean is that I don't have the access AND the competencies required to do that... [20:54:24] Anyway, not that important... just curiosity... [21:03:20] Hi all [21:04:38] Perdoanad que interrumpa tan interesante conversaci�n :) se puede hacer una pregunta en espa�ol? [21:05:51] hacelo. [21:06:47] bien, quer�a preguntar si hay algun toolserver ara saver las entradas de wikidata que todavia no tienen la etiqueta en un idioma concreto [21:07:00] *para saber [21:07:29] Is it possible to have the list of entries on the tool server without a specific language label? [21:07:56] list of entries on wikidata... [21:08:06] Making the request with the toolserver... [21:08:50] well a toolserver or a Category, or something in wikidata [21:09:06] anskar: A mi me parece que no, pero no soy seguro. Yo pregunto in ingles... [21:09:25] I try it ;) [21:13:00] Anybody know if have a tool to find out without input tags in a given language? [21:20:42] because is possible that the only way would be with a bot? [21:21:31] anskar: I don't know exactly your needs... One cool stuff if you're working in multiple language is to use the label gadget... [21:21:52] Where you could see for a specific Item in which language there is no label. [21:40:54] sorry Zil , my adls is a disaster :$ [21:41:02] thanks for your answer [21:41:46] ui, your...reply [21:42:19] adls ? [21:42:31] adsl... [21:42:41] ok [22:31:46] Jasper_Deng: I have closed the RfA :( [23:11:41] Does wikidata have an admin channel? [23:12:08] yes [23:12:34] techman224: do you not have access? [23:12:44] I don't even know the channel name [23:13:15] #wikidata-admin [23:13:31] I need an invite [23:13:41] i invited you just now [23:13:43] surely abusive things are discussed there [23:13:43] don [23:14:00] shhhhh